READER COMMENTS ON
"Tom Feeney's #1!"
(47 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Matt
said on 5/16/2005 @ 7:59 pm PT...
Hey now, will wonders never cease? :hehe:
The one man who seems to shape moral values in radical ways for a living, happens to be closest to the one man on Capital hill who has broken more rules than Al Capone!
http://houseofscandal.org
Salute Tom DeLay! And don't forget to salute Feeney and the vote fraud lobbyists, who could discount the fact which they all belong to the same flock after all.
I'm sure that the entire National Policy Council is just gloating from ear to ear at this headline news.
Like at one of their most recent paid for meetings, of course in the heart of ol' amurika....
LINK
We all want to know Tommy, how much money are they funneling down the pike now? Who's cutting the big checks and making sure the extremists take over everyone's perfectly normal voting process?
Matt
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
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Horkus
said on 5/16/2005 @ 9:14 pm PT...
I'm still under the supspicion that Tom DeLay and Tom Feeney are the same person. I've yet to see them in a picture together taking bribes.
Which leads me to wonder, how much does Tom DeLay know? Considering he single-handedly killed the Voter Confidence Act requiring a paper trail.
Should Clint Curtis' allegations be proven true, DeLay's liability to the Republican party would pale in comparison to Feeney's, the likes of which the Republicans wouldn't recover from for a long time.
McCain knows it. Which is probably why he stumped Feeney.
Bill Maher discussed briefly vote fraud on his season ender, Gore Vidal representing liberals who believe election fraud occured. Al Franken reprsenting liberals who believe that Republicans are dirty, but not dirty enough to manipulate the vote machines (I don't get it either).
Love Gore Vidal, but wish they would have gotten someone quicker to the punch like Jim Lampley or.....Brad Friedman?
Still glad to see that Feeney hasn't been forgotten.
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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Horkus
said on 5/16/2005 @ 9:19 pm PT...
McCain knows it. Which is probably why he stumped for Feeney.
I've got to start previewing my posts.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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jpentz
said on 5/16/2005 @ 9:23 pm PT...
What ??? He supports Hot Tub Tom????
::smirks::
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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jpentz
said on 5/16/2005 @ 9:23 pm PT...
What ??? He supports Hot Tub Tom????
::smirks::
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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jpentz
said on 5/16/2005 @ 9:23 pm PT...
darn it I did it again!
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Matt
said on 5/16/2005 @ 10:35 pm PT...
Not to chime in as "anti-partisan" or anything, but I firmly believe they should hold Nancy Pelosi accountable too.
I'm sick and tired of the would haves and the should haves. Why not? The corruption is on both sides of the aisle in various places, how are we going to get back honesty at all unless we hold them all to the same standards?
I say if Nancy broke the ethics laws, like any other schmooze whether democrat, republican, libertarian, conservative or whatever else then she should be made accountable period.
Besides the fact that I think its neccesary since the door swings both ways, I actually bet it might make the republicans work starkly towards holding their own rule breakers accountable.
At the very worst it opens up full debates and legal investigation.
I think that with outrage at this corrupt coup hitting everyone now, regardless of where they stand someone needs to really stress absolute reform. I just wouldn't contribute to anybody who I know was using private lobbyists and secret meetings to do all their policies and legislate laws behind the people's back. Not only is it not fair to me, I don't think it stands much for a democracy.
Matt
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 5/17/2005 @ 3:17 am PT...
If Nancy Pelosi has done anything improper, yet refuses to resign her leadership position, it will simply give Republicans a way to excuse DeLay's conduct by saying, "Everybody does it." She has to lay all her cards on the table and clearly distinguish her conduct from DeLay's (and Feeney's).
Remember the Keating Five back in Savings & Loan scandal days? What prevented that from ever being fully investigated? The fact that people on both sides of the aisle were implicated, including heroes JOHN GLENN AND JOHN MCCAIN.
When sleaziness becomes bi-partisan, it becomes tolerated. That's the history, and history repeats.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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emma
said on 5/17/2005 @ 4:29 am PT...
I have to agree. There so much on both sides it's nauseating . I asked this question on another thread. We keep putting so much hope on John Conyers and yet he sits with Feeney on the Judiciary Committee and never says a word about these allegations of vote fraud??? NEVER????? Almost sounds like Conyers is playing both sides to me. He tells us how he believes that the election was stolen, sits 4 or 5 seats away from someone accused of having a major part in stealing it, and never opens his mouth! Makes you wonder....
Emma
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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BUSHW@CKER
said on 5/17/2005 @ 4:30 am PT...
Sorry for OT post.
Episode 1600+ of Rice & Rummy's Laugh-In From Beautiful Downtown Baghdad!
An edited transcript of Condoleezza Rice’s speech at the American Embassy in Baghdad.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Dawookie
said on 5/17/2005 @ 5:33 am PT...
Another OT Post (hey, without an open thread, what's a poor boy to do?)
Wonder how much of this will make it into the MSM?
Answers on a postcard please...
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 5/17/2005 @ 6:02 am PT...
Emma, Conyers is an experienced hand at these things. I think he realizes that getting into a spitting contest with a lowlife like Feeney would look partisan even if it weren't.
Conyers follows Capitol Hill procedure. He writes letters, puts reports into the record, asks for White House documents, etc. I would trust his judgment where Feeney is concerned.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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Miss Persistent
said on 5/17/2005 @ 6:20 am PT...
I happen to have house guests from Florida, one of whom proudly voted for Bush. In bits and pieces I have told them all the latest blogger news and how they won't be seeing this news in their own newspapers or news channels. Guess what the Bush voter said (very sincerely) when I explained how the Iraq war had nothing to do with 9/11 or WMD? (And how Clinton's errors didn't cost lives.)
Why isn't anyone telling us about this!?
I have another day with my guests to get in one last story. I'll use my favorite - Clint Curtis/Tom Feeney. This one should put the Republican party solidly 8 feet under for my guests.
As Brad would say, saving the world one blog at a time!
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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America's Work Stories
said on 5/17/2005 @ 6:47 am PT...
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Bejammin075
said on 5/17/2005 @ 7:40 am PT...
Miss Persistent #15
great for you! that's how we do this. person to person, 1 at a time. once your guests eyes are open and they can see through the smokescreens and BS, there's no going back.
Don't forget the Downing Street Memo. Once you prove that Bush lied us into Iraq, ask, "what wouldn't he lie about?"
So mush is happening lately. Yesterday Scotti McC telling Newsweek that bad information is costing lives! Um, remember the cartoon of mobile labs that Powell presented to the UN? How many sources for that, dumbass Scotti? One drunken, crazy Iraqi defector (related to Chalabi!) detained by the Germans and NEVER interviewed by the US, and oh yeah, the Germans said don't believe a word this guy says.
Latest poll says Bush approval at 43%. We are having an effect. What ends regimes like Bush's is there gets to be a point that the centralized power can't manage all the chaos that they've caused. Too many big problems, too few neo-con overlords. Shit hitting fan so fast it's toppled over.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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MrBlueSky
said on 5/17/2005 @ 8:12 am PT...
RLM (Post #10):
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If Nancy Pelosi has done anything improper, yet refuses to resign her leadership position, it will simply give Republicans a way to excuse DeLay's conduct by saying, "Everybody does it." She has to lay all her cards on the table and clearly distinguish her conduct from DeLay's (and Feeney's).
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Everybody does it... Ohhhhhhh... so THAT makes it OK.
I've seen this time and again. When morons like Tom DeLay get caught by the Ethics Committee, their first response is... "Well... the Democrats do it too!" That alone should deserve a recall petition (and prison time) in Sugar Land!
But you are right about Pelosi. As bad as she (might) be, remember, though, that she and her Democrats are like the boy at Tiannanmen Square. That is, being a restraining force to hold the evil back. Until we get a someone else, they are all we have to keep sanity in the House.
Benjamin (Post #17) I cannot agree with you more! Sometimes, we get so discouraged by all the malfeasance of these neo cons, it does take a reminder by looking at the approval numbers. Now, all we need to do is to translate these into Democrat wins in the House and Senate.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Robert
said on 5/17/2005 @ 8:29 am PT...
(Post#18)
How can we translate the approval ratings of this moronic president and his Repub clones into Democratic wins in the House and Senate when the Repubs still control the voting machines and the voting process in many states?
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 5/17/2005 @ 9:13 am PT...
Has anyone noticed that what is really a criminal concept (voting fraud) has become a political concept.
There should be no debate as to whether or not voting machines should have an iron clad paper verification trail for substantial audits.
Yet not only is there debate in congress, DeLay the neocon criminal, shot it down in the House. Little wonder that his mini-me (Feeney) supports voting machines with no paper audit trail mechanisms.
And little wonder that only their accusers (whistle blowers) will take and pass lie detector tests, and that DeLay/Feeney won't even discuss taking such tests.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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MrBlueSky
said on 5/17/2005 @ 9:32 am PT...
Robert (#19):
Good question!
The only way to break this stranglehold is for vigilant citizens to to escalate the reporting of the crimes to the mainstream media. We need to match the pressure that the neo CONS are placing on the media.
The MSM will continue to ignore us. That is, until this tale of multifaceted corruption becomes too large to ignore.
The pieces are starting to be identified. We need to put them all together and show the whole world the kind of criminal activity going on at all levels of the Republican machine.
A word or warning though... the bigger they are, the harder they fall. And they are huge! Expect heavy casualties!
Stay tuned for America's own Armageddon!
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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jpentz
said on 5/17/2005 @ 11:47 am PT...
Ms. Persistent #15
I was listening to Air America Radio last night and they offered this great site to get the word out. I know this does not have much to do with Tom Feeney directly, but I went and printed a bunch of handbills and visted the grocery store this afternoon. I dropped the handbills in Grocery hand baskets and grocerty cart fold out seats.
PEOPLE COULD EVEN MAKE HANDBILLS OF BRADBLOG STORIES!!!!
I thought this was a way cool idea. Pass it on. You print the hand bills and they have the URL for the website so people who view them can go to site and print them out and do the same. So if 2 of 10 people do this . .it spreads.
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COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Charles R Dubord JR
said on 5/17/2005 @ 12:03 pm PT...
JPENTZ-
I liked the list dude. You know how I will be shopping from now on.
In regards to Feeney, not odd he is sleeping in the same tent as Feeney, makes the chain of command clear, and certainly makes him a key go to guy in a key state regarding "CLINT CURTIS".
Dirty Bastards....WE all gotta go shopping like that now...
Charlie
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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MMIIXX
said on 5/17/2005 @ 12:21 pm PT...
Matt ,what democracy are you reffering to Ukraine,Iraq.....
Have you read any of the linked info at address below this comment
https://bradblog.com/ClintCurtisSummary.htm
Can you imagine either of "the tom's" taking a polygraph?
A bribe, yes, a polygraph, not in this lifetime.
When bush exports democracy from America its like when GM exports a car ie. you don't have it in America anymore.
bush lost in 2000 (real results released 911 Gore won)
bush stole 2004 (do the math)
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Miss Persistent
said on 5/17/2005 @ 12:33 pm PT...
Thanks JPentz, I'm on it! Love the list and have spread the word.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 5/17/2005 @ 12:35 pm PT...
Emma - Without going into too much detail, let me just mention that Ethics Charges in the House are *very* tricky. If a member of the House makes Ethics Charges that cannot be proven (or prove to be untrue, or do not stick, or whatever) then the member who filed the Ethics Charges can/will have Ethics Charges brought against them in the bargain.
It's a system built to make it difficult to file Ethics Charges so that (theoretically) they cannot be used as a political weapon.
Keep that in mind in regards to your comments about Conyers and Feeney.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 5/17/2005 @ 12:38 pm PT...
All these whacko's are from the South! What's wrong with the South? They're like a different country! Everyone's afraid to say it, but the South votes Republican, come hell-or-high-water. Facts are not prejudice!
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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Matt
said on 5/17/2005 @ 12:46 pm PT...
I know exactly what they are up to, but you have to keep it all in perspective.
Maybe "Tom" doesn't need to pass polygraphs and so forth if Curtis has already passed his, and there is a real independant investigation that winds up in court over here.
I don't know how much "Tom" co-operation is neccesary, but I do agree this is a serious situation. Not one anyone can shrug off.
Matt
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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kira
said on 5/17/2005 @ 1:33 pm PT...
Big Dan --- I'm from the South
I think if you look at when the South started voting Republican in a remarkable way, you will find it directly corrolates to the advent of Black Box Voting.
But - that's not to say we don't have our share (and maybe a few more than our share) of dipshits.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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kira
said on 5/17/2005 @ 2:24 pm PT...
JPentz - thanks for posting the grocery list! Great idea.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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emma
said on 5/17/2005 @ 5:17 pm PT...
Re: # 26
Thanks Brad. I'm rather new to this. I've been reading for months and posting very rarely. I guess there is a lot to learn but I just noted a glaring problem when the people here seem to hold this Rep. Conyers in such high esteem and he says nothing about all the points raised here and in his committee. I don't know the players but I'm doing my homework and trying to get up to speed! Keep up the good work.
Emma
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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Matt
said on 5/17/2005 @ 6:19 pm PT...
Finally Nancy Pelosi is speaking up, in terms I think everyone can agree with!
http://blog.dccc.org/mt/archives/002805.html
snip
"I'm here as House Democratic Leader today to talk about a new ethical standard for the House of Representatives, which will remove all doubt in the public's mind as to who we are here to serve. The public is our boss. We are here in the public interest, not to be the handmaidens of the special interests.
"Democrats are setting forth the new ethical standard containing these six principles:
* Ban Members from accepting any gifts from lobbyists.
* Ban Members from secretly working with corporate lobbyists to write legislation.
* Ban lobbying by Members of Congress and high level staff for two years after leaving Congress.
* Enforce the ban on Members and staff soliciting privately-funded travel.
* Ban lobbyists from arranging and financing travel.
* End the 'K Street Project' - ban Members and staff from threatening lobbyists with official actions.
"Some of these provisions are already in the excellent Meehan-Emmanuel Bill, which is being introduced today. All of them will uphold a high ethical standard in the House of Representatives.
"It is no longer acceptable to just talk about ethics reform and restoring integrity to the legislative process. We must do something about it, and we must do it now."
http://blog.dccc.org/mt/archives/002805.html
Anyone heard more about this? If these laws are instilled immediately, I don't think any of the rule breakers will be around for long now.
Matt
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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Cole...
said on 5/18/2005 @ 10:47 am PT...
Emma # 11/#29/#4 (another thread)
You are remarkably consistant. Always centered on Conyers----it does make one 'wonder'.
There are more and deeper 'wonderings' in the words and actions of the bushmobsters to be had yet you question why Conyers does not question his fellow committee members. That's not how it works.
But you got what looks like a bug up your hinder and a 'hidden' agenda; with no clear critical point of view aimed at the 'mob', you do stroke my 'wonder' button.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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MMIIXX
said on 5/18/2005 @ 12:20 pm PT...
Anybody here from feeney's district ,he seems to run un-opposed ,maybe you should find someone to run against this guy.
Pressure makes diamonds and blows the shit out of "empty vessels",turn up the pressure on feeney ,every chance you get.
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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emma
said on 5/18/2005 @ 5:17 pm PT...
Cole,
I merely get frustrated about why people in authority don't do something about all that I've been reading here! Is that so unusual? I hope not!! I don't post much because I know I have a lot to learn but as I kept reading how Conyers headed up the committee and then I found out that Feeney was ON the commitee I merely wondered. I don't have a preconceived opinion on Conyers but I certainly DO about Feeney!! One thing I've noticed about this blog and another one I've been reading is that if anyone questions anything they become the "bad guy".....that's probably why I and thousands of others just read and never speak. God forbid that we question!!! As far as I can tell there are only about a dozen or so "regulars" who coo over whatever each other says...how educational is that??? I was merely trying to get a legitimate answer to what I thought was a reasonable question.....forgive me.
Emma
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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kira
said on 5/18/2005 @ 7:39 pm PT...
Hi Emma, and welcome to the frustrated group!
Actually if you hang around awhile you'll find we all argue at one time or another with each other - and piss each other off on occasion. It's definitely not all "cooing!"
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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czaragorn
said on 5/19/2005 @ 9:53 am PT...
Hi Emma, Thanks for responding. I for one have never thought you were a troll or anything like that. And I can understand your wondering about Conyers, because it seems you're under a misconception. Although he is the ranking Democrat on the committee, it is headed up by a repugnatron, as is every other committee in the House. That bit of knowledge might put the Conyers strategy into better context. And don't be offended when someone goes off on you. It does happen from time to time here in Bradville, because we're all so passionate about the problems we face. Please stay around and there will be one more of us to share our collective knowledge. Thanks...
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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Cole...
said on 5/19/2005 @ 10:42 am PT...
Emma #33
It is not a question of a 'preconceived' opinion it is of a persistance in the repetitive nature of the question. And surely you know that committee members do not question fellow members--they are often very opposed to each others views but the committee could not function if the members squabbled amongst themselves.
But why Conyers?
Why not Carter who serves on a committee with Baker? as co-chairs?
As far as Conyers not speaking about committee findings (#29) --that is called 'leaking' and it would be damning to his reputation. I would certainly like to read a posting by Conyers on this or any blog but that would be unusual and he should not be faulted for not posting---he might be 'reading' much like you have been doing.
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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kira
said on 5/19/2005 @ 12:18 pm PT...
Emma! I, too, have a lot of questions that haven't been answered about politicians and politics. I'm still searching.
Representative Conyers has been very active in getting information into the Congressional Record and that is such an important thing for us, the [so far] silenced majority.
We must stand behind him & his efforts. But we must also keep our eyes open and remember that even our best Representatives are human and therefore not perfect. It is our job (we Citizens) to keep a watchful eye on the "henhouse." Democracy is fragile and we must constantly work to protect it.
Emma, you can write to Representative Conyers personally here: John Conyers Email Address
Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.
Thomas Jefferson --- 3rd president of US (1743 - 1826)
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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emma
said on 5/19/2005 @ 3:54 pm PT...
Thank you Kira...as for you, Cole...I can only say that you are terribly judgemental and you ASSUME way too much! No...I did not know that one committee member could not question another. Since you are so fixated on my few posts you will note that I have said from the onset that I am new to this. I went on the internet in search of answers to questions that aren't being answered.....one of the MANY places I found was the Brad Blog. For months I have read, and read and read and followed up what I found through other sources. I have admitted up front that I am a novice. I, and probably millions like me, find this "blogging" intimidating as we have feelings, thoughts and emotions that seem to be "greeted" with nothing but hostility if we don't seem to fit in to the "norm" (whatever the hell that is)! I don't have to post here and I can read whatever else is available. I found this site totally at random and I can leave the same way I came. I KNOW for certain who I am and I really don't care if you know me, believe me, trust me or validate me. I have been on this earth for 57 years without the validation of some anonymous typist on the Brad Blog!!!
Emma
P.S....just as importantly...you won't run me off either if I CHOOSE to stay! E
COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
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Cole...
said on 5/19/2005 @ 4:17 pm PT...
Kira#37
Lot of questions about politicians--damn right, me too!
There are now only a handful who step out as Conyers has, and they have to have our support or one way or another they will be lost to us.
To step out is to become a target and always attracts admirers and detractors, so nothing unusual here. What is unusual is this phrasing:
---- glaring problem when the people here seem to hold this Rep. Conyers in such high esteem and he says nothing about all the points raised here and in his committee. ---
Is this just a naivete?
A first time poster - repeating essentially the same post three times?
What glaring problem?
What 'points' has he said nothing about?
Sorry to be so skeptical but best to be vigilant,
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
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kira
said on 5/19/2005 @ 4:55 pm PT...
I think Emma is trying to get an answer to a problem that really bothers her. I also have found that many of my posted questions remain unanswered. Maybe it's because nobody has an answer to my questions.
I agree that it can be very intimidating to write on blogs these days because passions are running so high. Emma's posts have been civil, though and I don't believe she's resorted to any name-calling but is a concerned Citizen trying to figure it all out. And it's a real chore trying to figure it all out.
I've done absolutely nothing since June 2004 but research on our political machinery. I didn't keep up with what was happening politically until things started getting really ugly during Clinton's 2nd term. That's when I began to wake up.
Being Naive but studying is Patriotic and very honorable. I think, Cole, if you go back and read Emma's posts on this thread you will see she is trying to understand our very complicated current situation. I don't understand all the rules of conduct our Representatives play by either. I do know it's currently a double-standard enforced by the CONs. Thanks for the info in #36, Cole, but I had to :laugh: at this sentence, "but the committee could not function if the members squabbled amongst themselves" because that's what the CONs are so famous for! They do remind me of a bunch of chickens squabbling over a handful of corn!
And it is good for all of us to remain vigilant.
COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
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emma
said on 5/19/2005 @ 7:09 pm PT...
Whew...you , Cole, are really paranoid. I guess I am now more curious than ever! Just what nefarious thing is it that I have set out to accomplish? I have been reading for months now and it occured to me that it was "odd" that this Mr. Conyers who seems to understand the truth wasn't speaking out....on the other thread, Brad tried to explain.
I think it a little bizarre that my question has caused such angst. Nonetheless, I will just continue to read and learn...here and elsewhere. I won't post much though, Cole...since it seems to unnerve you for some reason. Good grief, hope you treat guests better than you've treated a curious "interloper"!!!
Emma
COMMENT #42 [Permalink]
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Cole...
said on 5/19/2005 @ 9:26 pm PT...
Emma #41
I do not have a lease-hold here, if you feel like a guest then thank Brad.
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean 'they' are not out to get me. Post as you like, you are not responsible for my nerves so feel free. But as I said previously I too am curious. So express "what" is the thought behind your "curious"?
For example to "what" do you attribute :---
...'it was "odd" that this Mr. Conyers who seems to understand the truth wasn't speaking out....
How does Conyers "seem to understand" in your thoughts? Did it trickle down from above? If you
have read his letters you would know. If you haven't then do so and you will know.
Mr. Conyers was active in the election mess for a long time. As a member of the House Black Caucus he tried to find out more about the theft of the 2000 election.
In addition, referring to the party of your curiousity as '..this Mr. Conyers' is a bit demeaning. But that aside, the information is there, read it. If you seed out tantilizing nothings don't expect hugs.
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Cole...
said on 5/19/2005 @ 9:33 pm PT...
P.S. Emma
Try:
51 U.S. HOUSE MEMBERS CALL FOR 'WAR CRIMES' INVESTIGATION OF BUSH ADMINISTRATION!
The House of Cards Begins to Teeter...
Blogged by Brad on Fri, May 13, 2005
just 3 days before this blog.
Paranoia? I'm getting curiouser and curiouser.
COMMENT #44 [Permalink]
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Cole...
said on 5/19/2005 @ 9:59 pm PT...
Heck Emma
I just went into the Bradblog Archives and from 12/10/04 and now picked up 10 Blogs on Conyers.
I don't know what you have been reading 'for months' but there is a ton of info to quash or at least wet your curiosity right here.
Do I think you are up to something nefarious?
Shucks I don't know but I look foreward to your edified responses.
COMMENT #45 [Permalink]
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emma
said on 5/20/2005 @ 3:37 am PT...
Cole,
If you go back and read you will note that I said I had been reading at Brad Blog and MANY other places. (38) I was not referring primarily to Conyers, but the Feeney vote rigging issue. The two names were linked when I read about the hearings, the hearings led to me to articles about Conyers. I remember getting excited when I read somewhere (I believe it was on BB) that they BOTH served on the Judiciary committee which got me giddy about the possibilities of the matter going public... I mistrust politicians (of BOTH parties). I didn't say much until I noted the BB article about "cloning" conyers and it prompted me to voice my disappointment. I guess I need to REPEAT that I wasn't aware until Brad told me, that members couldn't or didn't question each other...so sue me.
There you go Cole...that's it, pure and simple. I wish I had more exciting news for you but my life is rather ordinary...no midnight calls from Rove nor vicarious pleasures derived from irritating some anonymous blogger. Sorry.....
Emma
COMMENT #46 [Permalink]
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Cole...
said on 5/20/2005 @ 8:34 am PT...
No need for an apology Emma.
You are entitled to your views, state them as you like.
COMMENT #47 [Permalink]
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stupid face the 3
said on 11/14/2005 @ 12:13 pm PT...