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"Bernie Takes Michigan and Other Mainstream Media Misses: 'BradCast' 3/9/2016"
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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kyle D
said on 3/10/2016 @ 12:05 pm PT...
voting machines vs hand recounts is the clearest version of The Machine vs The People:
http://sweetremedy.tv/el...ed-bernie-sanders-by-17/
Who really won Massachusetts? I think we all know the likely answer.
If the Democratic establishment nominates her, it will destroy the party. And I will dance on its grave.
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ChicagoMel
said on 3/10/2016 @ 2:30 pm PT...
Maybe dance to the right side of the grave, so we can unearth, resuscitate and REJUVENATE the comatose Democratic Party of yore which the reprehensible Clintons, their big business goons, and their Third Way conjob have parasitized like goddamned tapeworms since the Eighties....i despise that smirking, greedy, power-hungry couple for fooling me for way too many years....i was played, you were played, the entire electorate was played (AND IS BEING PLAYED AGAIN RIGHT NOW FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!) and i for one am not a person to be fucked with, or over, or around....neither is my good buddy here ~~
https://youtu.be/zVJOl-7ig5k
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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Brad Friedman
said on 3/10/2016 @ 8:55 pm PT...
Kyle D @1:
voting machines vs hand recounts is the clearest version of The Machine vs The People
I wouldn't take much from that particular case, Kyle. Fact is, in MA, it's the smaller, more rural jurisdictions that handcount and the larger, more urban jurisdictions that tally with computers. Given the outsized African-American support that Clinton has, it's to be expected that he'd win the smaller districts while she'd win the larger, more urban areas.
Doesn't mean she did. We don't know --- because nobody bothers to count the actual paper ballots in those larger jurisdictions --- but I wouldn't necessarily see the data point you cite as a particularly red flag in and of itself.
FWIW.
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karenfromillinois
said on 3/11/2016 @ 12:58 pm PT...
curious stats in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts
MA Primary: Unadjusted Exit poll Indicates Bernie won
02
MAR
MA Primary: Another Stolen Election
Mar.2, 2016
Just like the MA 2014 Governor race, the primary was likely stolen.
The exit poll, AS ALWAYS, was adjusted to match the recorded vote
Clinton won the RECORDED (bogus) vote (1406 respondents) by 50.3-48.7%
In the exit poll of 1297 respondents, Sanders led at 8:01 pm by 52.3-45.7%
But how could Clinton gain 114 respondents and Sanders just 7 among the final 109?
This is 2004 all over again. Kerry led by 51-48% after the first 13047 respondents, but Bush by 50.8-48.3% at 13660 respondents. When the unadjusted exit poll became available years later, we found that Kerry won the 13660 respondents 51.7-47.0%.
The probability that Sanders won: 99% (given the 2.72% Margin of Error)
Win prob= 99.2% = normdist (.534,.5, Moe/1.96,true)
https://richardcharnin.w...ll-indicates-bernie-won/
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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karenfromillinois
said on 3/11/2016 @ 1:04 pm PT...
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Brad Friedman
said on 3/11/2016 @ 5:52 pm PT...
KarenFromIllinois @ 4&5, asks:
do 4 little flags make one big red flag?
Well, not the two you have pointed out so far, necessarily. The first, in regard Richard's analysis of unadjusted Exit Polls. Even unadjusted, the sample is quite small to declare "Sanders Won!", as he does.
On the Roanoake sitch, I discussed it on this show two days after Super Tuesday, including the response that I received from the County's General Registrar. I leave it to you to accept whether you accept the response, but here it is in full:
Hello Brad,
The officers of election call in the "unofficial results" when the polls close. We key the numbers into a spreadsheet and the Department of Elections website. After all numbers are entered we compare totals as a double check. We discovered that a number was entered wrong on the website and it was corrected at that point. Human error is the explanation.
The Electoral Board canvassed the election yesterday and the "official total" for Clinton is 3325 and the "official total" for Sanders is 2760 at this point. We have a few provisional ballots that may or may not be counted on Friday.
Thank you for contacting me.
Judy
Judy A. Stokes, CERA
General Registrar
County of Roanoke, Virginia
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Bev
said on 3/13/2016 @ 8:52 am PT...
Bernie Sanders wants hand counted paper ballot evidence in elections. We need to help him with that.
Here is a start:
https://posts.google.com/share/gbP5-ep5/BpnSi4
Bernie Sanders on Google
We need your help today! When you vote, report delegate counts from your caucuses and turnout from your precincts.
https://votetracker.berniesanders.com/
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Given the skew aided by the Microsoft app which did not count young, first time voters all approved by the Republican and Democratic parties, the sampling of numbers which does not have to be large to be accurate, the fraud of Clinton superdelegates, with some media reinforcing the idea while the New York Times does not play along, what we already know about those right wing owned voting machines selecting and pushing both parties farther right, and what we don't know about the owners of those voting machines I want Sibel Edmonds to research the work of Nick Bryant and Stew Webb (and Webb has a history of whistleblowing to aid the investigations into Silverado, HUD, more), to CONFIRM connections to child abusers with owners of those machines, selecting themselves such as convicted criminal, third in line of succession former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert who Sibel has reported on Hastert's crimes against the state and against children, and to spread the word on such horrible corruption, she is creating a new media, NEWSBUD, to report on Hastert and others. See:
https://www.kickstarter....d-nonpartisan-online-new
Fundraising ends by Thu, Apr 14 2016 12:57 AM CDT. She will need to make her funding by then or it goes aways. Help her if you can.
My appeal to Sible to interview and confirm these reports to save our kids and our democracy:
https://www.kickstarter....d-nonpartisan-online-new
https://www.kickstarter....2757506#comment-12757505
I think all the harm done to kids needs to stop. The harm to our democracy needs to stop. The harm done to gays needs to stop because it is MISDIRECTED and should be REDIRECTED now, especially after the success of the important film, Spotlight. Another spotlight is needed on the connection of child abusers to the owners of the voting machines. If Sibel can interview, report quickly enough to confirm, she must send her information to all the candidates. We should then see all the candidates demanding removal of the evidence-free, evidence-hiding voting machines now, during the Primaries while it can make a positive difference to the lives of kids, to our democracy, and the fate of the world.
Everyone stop abusing gays now and forever: go after the real danger to kids, to democracy, to everyone.
If that connection once was, but is no more, we need to know that. Sible please confirm fast.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Bev
said on 3/13/2016 @ 10:38 am PT...
Here is the article that informed me of Sibel Edmonds reporting on and goal of removing these criminals and their crimes against the state and crimes against kids from government to create a better future for kids and for our nation.
via: http://www.washingtonsbl...-sex-with-a-student.html
Whistleblower: Powerful Congressman Hastert’s Corruption Goes FAR Beyond Sex With a Student
Posted on October 22, 2015 by WashingtonsBlog
The REAL Hastert Scandal
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http://www.boilingfrogsp...t-case-all-in-one-place/
The People’s Campaign: The Real Hastert Case- All in One Place
Sibel Edmonds | October 19, 2015 71 Comments
Let’s Counter the Complicit US Media with Our Own!
- See more at: http://www.boilingfrogsp...ce/#sthash.KahFjmpT.dpuf
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I now think the right wing GOP are trying to seem like the good guys going after gays, but are actually knowingly accommodating the evil child abusers in power. Shame on you. Redirect now. I think the Austin GOP Party Leader who is determined to clean out his GOP party of terrible people, please make sure to target pedophiles and gay hypocrites, not gays who do no harm to other gays nor do no harm to kids. Send this information to him too, Sibel. Perhaps, he could help save democracy and kids too.
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And, pardon my over long sentence above with its awkward structure that needs reworking to be grammatically correct. If I have the time, I may give it another go. But, you get the point....
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Bev
said on 3/13/2016 @ 11:04 am PT...
To be clear, pedophilia is not a gay thing, it is a dangerous anybody thing from any sexual persuasion.
That is why gays should never be targeted.
Target only pedophiles who are dangerous heterosexuals, bisexuals, homosexuals all deeply dangerous to kids, and dangerous to democracy with these evidence-free/hidden e-voting, e-scanning machines.
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http://franklinscandal.com/
FRANKLIN SCANDAL: A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse & Betrayal
by Nick Bryant
The FRANKLIN SCANDAL is the story of a nationwide pedophile ring that pandered children to a cabal of the rich and powerful. The ring’s pimps were a pair of political powerbrokers who had access to the highest levels of our government. Nebraska legislators attempted to expose the network in 1989 and 1990, but the legislators’ efforts were followed by a rash of mysterious deaths and the overpowering responses of federal and local law enforcement, including the FBI and Justice Department, which
effected an immaculate cover-up of the trafficking network.
The publisher is donating 50% of the book’s proceeds to organizations that assist abused children.
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Additional Publications on Child Trafficking
Nick Bryant has contributed a chapter to Global Perspectives on Dissociative Disorders.
http://www.amazon.com/dp...mp;coliid=I16Q06VKURHN7W
Global Perspectives on Dissociative Disorders: Individual and Societal Oppression
by Vedat Sar (Editor), Warwick Middleton (Editor), Martin Dorahy (Editor)
Dissociative disorders are one of the psychiatric consequences of childhood psychological trauma. While oppression is an aspect of traumatic conditions,
dissociation undermines resistance to oppression throughout a person’s lifespan. Neither oppression nor dissociation are restricted to particular cultures, and both can affect the individual as well as societies.
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Further subjects examined include the utilization of dissociation in postmodern societies to maintain oppression, the oppressive conditions of asylum seekers and the consequences of oppression as they are dealt with in psychotherapy. The final chapter considers how a paedophile pandering network employed multi-layered oppression to prevent the public becoming aware of the widespread and organised abuse of children.
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A link to rigged elections by the same people who abuse children. Save our kids and democracy.
via: http://www.opednews.com/...-M-Young-120910-472.html
Still Evil after All These Years: The Franklin Scandal and Pedophilia in High Places
By Charles M. Young Posted by Dave Lindorff
On one such foray in 2002, he stumbled on a scandal that I had never heard of. The scandal centered around the Franklin Community Federal Credit Union, which was created to serve a poor black neighborhood in Omaha, Nebraska. During the 70s and 80s, its manager, a man named Larry King (not the talk show host), ran the Franklin as a Ponzi scheme and looted over $40 million, which he spent on an opulent lifestyle and Republican fundraising. King sang the National Anthem at the Republican convention in 1984 and served on several committees of the National Black Republican Council. He had a townhouse in Washington, DC, where he threw parties
with many prominent guests. In August 1988, he threw a $100,000 party at the Republican convention, and appeared in a video in which he and Jack Kemp urged blacks to vote for George H. W. Bush. In November 1988, his Ponzi scheme crashed and the Franklin was shut down by the National Credit Union Association and the FBI.
All run-of-the-mill scandal stuff, and uncontroversial in the basic facts, except that as King was climbing into the upper levels of the national Republican hierarchy, Omaha was boiling over with rumors that he was also running a pedophile ring, pandering children out to rich and powerful men in Omaha, even flying the children to Washington, Los Angeles and New York for orgiastic, abusive parties with even richer andmore powerful men.
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The FBI has had a reputation for dirty tricks and blackmail for its entire history. The revelations about COINTELPRO, the campaign of harassment against the left during the 60s, were shocking to anyone with a concern for freedom of speech. If it became known that the FBI covered up a pedophile ring of the rich and powerful, I think most Americans would react as they reacted to the Penn State scandal, and the FBI would be drastically reorganized. Minimally, a number of agents in the Omaha office in the late 80s and 90s are guilty of the worst sort of malfeasance.
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The Omaha World-Herald was the foremost local cheerleader for persecuting teenagers instead of investigating their claims. One of its own columnists, Peter Citron, had a long history of arrests for pedophilia and child porn and was implicated by two witnesses at Larry King’s sex parties. The long-time publisher of the World-Herald, Harold Anderson, was a big supporter of Larry King and had raised money for the Franklin. During the 18 years that King presided over the Franklin, the newspaper never noticed that King was living a hugely expensive lifestyle when he was supposedly making $17,000 a year in salary. The World-Herald Company is co-owner of Election Software and Systems (also known as ES&S associated with Diebold), which counts half the election ballots in the United States.
Americans have plenty of obvious reasons to hate the rich and powerful. Wars for oil, rampant pollution, the destruction of individual rights, the constant lying about everything. It’s all on the front page, and it’s like old furniture in the living room. It’s hard for most people to notice. Boutique evil of the Gerry Sandusky sort affects fewer victims, but is more easily understood once the initial denial breaks down. If the denial of the Franklin Credit Union scandal ever breaks down, the consequences will reverberate far higher than happened at Penn State. Except for all those who died in suspicious accidents and suicides, the witnesses are still out there. Some might even talk about it. They talked to Nick Bryant.
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Sibel, please.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Bev
said on 3/14/2016 @ 6:58 am PT...
Brad, I asked Richard Charnin about your issue of sampling size. His reply:
https://richardcharnin.w...hare-indicates/#comments
The MI Margin of Error (adjusted for the standard 30% exit poll cluster effect) is 3.27%
Unadjusted MI Exit Poll
Sanders led the preliminary exit poll of 1510 respondents by 52.1-45.9% (787-693). He led the adjusted exit poll (matched to the recorded vote) of 1601 respondents by 49.8-48.3% (797-773).
But the recorded share was IMPOSSIBLE. The proof is self-explanatory: How could Clinton gain 80 and Sanders just 10 of the final 91 exit poll respondents?
Based on the two-party preliminary share (53.16-46.84%) and 3.27% margin of error, Sanders had a 97.1% win probability.
Preliminary Exit Poll – 1510 respondents (3.27% MoE)
Gender Pct Clinton Sanders Other
men 0.45 0.42 0.56 0.02
women 0.55 0.49 0.49 0.02
Total 100% 45.9% 52.2% 2.0%
There is a 97.1% probability that Sanders won.
MI Democratic Primary Exit Poll
(forced to match the recorded vote)
Respondents Clinton Sanders Other
1601 Adjusted Final 48.30% 49.80% 1.90%
1510 Unadjusted 45.90% 52.10% 2.00%
Two-party vote 46.84% 53.16%
Margin of error (30% Cluster) 3.27%
Sanders Win Prob = 97.1% = normdist(0.5316,0.5,0.0327/1.96,true)
https://docs.google.com/...w0XlY/edit#gid=837770118
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Brad Friedman
said on 3/14/2016 @ 1:17 pm PT...
Bev @ 10:
In regard to my remarks about the Exit Poll sample sizes, I was referring to Massachusetts in response to Karen's comments above. I've yet to look at the MI numbers in detail that you copy/pasted from Richard's analysis.
He's a statistician, I am not. I often have trouble following Richard's math and presumptions. So, in any event, no time to examine them in detail at the moment. Just wanted to clarify that my comments to Karen were in reference to MA not MI.
As to your pedophilia issues, those seem a bit off topic in this particular thread, frankly. Whatever Hastert or other GOPers did or didn't do, as Sibel may be arguing, it's rather far afield from the issues discussed on this program, at least, and in the rest of this thread, concerning issues of Election Integrity.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Bev
said on 3/18/2016 @ 2:09 pm PT...
Brad, Thank you so much for allowing me to be here at your brave site and address what I worry is a potential link of abusers of democracy and children to those evidence removing/hiding e-voting, e-scanning machines. And, yes I do wonder why me? Why haven't others questioned this this, or more reporters covered this potential link? Maybe they don't know. So I felt it important to try, in case Beth Clarkson's amazing Open Letter to Bernie Sanders, is not enough.
I thought Beth Clarkson's very wonderful letter perhaps could be effective so long as everyone sends it to Bernie and everywhere else they post to get a critical mass.
https://ballotpedia.org/...oting_equipment_by_state
Ballotpedia shows states that have paper ballots that could be counted, if her request, voters' requests and Bernie's preference for paper ballots hand counted finally prevail.
http://showmethevotes.or...etter-to-bernie-sanders/
An Open Letter to Bernie Sanders
Dear Bernie
If you want to win the presidency and elect a revolutionary congress, you must find a way to force accurate counts of votes across the country. There is no reason to believe that machine generated vote counts are accurate when they are not checked for accuracy. This is particularly difficult in places like South Carolina and parts of Kansas, where no paper trail exists to even attempt a public recount. Or Arizona where manual hand counting of ballots is not permitted.
I live in Kansas. I’m a professional statistician and an ASQ Certified Quality Engineer. I find certain patterns in election results quite disturbing. Graphs of Oklahoma primary results are below. Both exhibit a common and concerning pattern: as the number of votes cast in a precinct increases, so does the vote share for the candidate favored by the Washington establishment. This pattern is NOT due to random chance nor do voter demographics explain it. In the fall, the Republican candidates across the board can be expected to show such a pattern wherever machine counting of votes is combined with poor to non-existent auditing of those results. The pattern is consistent with election rigging.
Citizens like myself have had little success in forcing our officials to show the paper trails so we can have confidence in their reported results. I’ve been trying for more than three years to get access to the paper records that would allow me to assess how accurate our computer tabulated official vote counts are. After my latest legal setback, it will be another year before I might get permission. In the meantime, we will be having another election on non-transparent voting machines.
You, as a candidate, have the right to demand manual recounts. Well, in some places anyway. If you were to do so, irrefutable evidence of problems with vote counts will emerge in some of those places. If and only if your supporters can find and correct those problems can your revolution win at the ballot box.
In states that have paper trails, I suggest you start asking for manual recounts of the paper ballots and Voter Verified Paper Audit Trails (VVPAT) where you can. Whether you won or lost the contest doesn’t matter. The point is to evaluate the size and number of discrepancies and check for bias. Laws vary from state to state. Typically there is a short window of time to request recounts. Many jurisdictions will balk and try to keep you from doing so by various legal maneuvers. But there will be many opportunities through the primary season. You have supporters that can be trained and provide labor hours when needed. A 100% manual recount isn’t necessary. A random sample of precincts is sufficient.
If you recount and find discrepancies, you might receive additional delegates. More importantly, if you were to demand recounts, it would highlight the fact that in many states, those machine counts are never audited or verified with the original paper records. Most citizens are shocked to discover that their vote counting process is not verified, or in some places, verifiable. I know I was when I first discovered this truth about Sedgwick County Kansas in 2012.
Thank you
Beth Clarkson
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And, thank you Brad Friedman.