Holy shit...

So, now, the Election Officials are just "winging it", and that's ok in the confines of the law?

Talk about bad people trying desperately to cover bad behaviors that are destroying our country!

This is beyond words! Really, I don't know what to say! - (shaking head in disbelief). But then I guess I'd believe anything these crooks do anymore!

Isn't it time to go to court and let a judge hold these officials accountable?

So far, all of these election officials have been arrogant, lying f*ckheads, doing whatever they can to cover their asses (and thusly subvert the election process.)

-- Chris Hooten

Tra la la...

We just make it up as we go ALONG, folks!! Tripping merrily down chicanery road we go...

GOD, I just HATE this. Whenever you think you can't feel any more powerless, something like this comes along and kicks you even further down. Maybe we NEED TO GET OUT IN THE STREETS IN OUR MILLIONS and show a little of the intimidating RIGHT STUFF. Mexicans aren't letting Obrador disappear without a fight. And all the same tactics were imported there from *guess where?* Doesn't it make you proud of our exports?

Peg C,

chicanery road - isn't that one block over from jugglery lane?

Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary:
"chicanery"
Function: noun
Text: the use of clever underhanded actions to achieve an end

Old Merriam had it right all along!

#7 Oops - looks like the editor thought part of what I pasted was HTML for invisible ink - that definition should have been followed by: (that candidate only won the election through chicanery) - the original had less/than and more/than signs in place of the parenthesis.

BB2 -

Don't know what your perceived transmission problem was, but I connect. I'm so angry, frustrated and outraged - and tired of saying so - I could commit mayhem (of a preferably non-violent kind). Might we "mayhem" this country back into a sane democracy???

The ad hoc regime in the white house makes it up as it goes, and the wannabe drama queens out there thinking elections are a soap opera stumble along in drunken lock-step.

It is the first drunken army I have seen stumble out "yore lep, your lep, your lep rite lep". Amazing enough to get anyone's attention.

Lets see if the courts in California, state and federal, have dazed off into delirium too:

It's only a matter of time before some enterprising journalist figures out a way to argue that the public's general dislike for the Republicans spells good news for ... Republicans. After all, it'll just give the GOP another group to run against: the American people.

( http://mediamatters.org/items/200607070012 , bold added).

Believe it, for real, these people are suffering from severe delirium and are dangerous to democracy.

Remember when the law and order family values crowd started making veiled threats to judges, some not so veiled. It was a WTF time for me. Just didn't make sense. It seems that a lot of judges quit and have been replaced by the furher. I think it's time to take the busby/bilbray race to court...but have a back up plan. Taxpayers deserve better in California than to have to go through hoops because their govt. is crooked. Fla., Ohio, and now California. Back up plan , shed some light. Put the spotlight on them. Good time with the RFK Jr. lawsuit, Lou Dobbs, and Court TV interested now. I think court tv will get viewers who haven't heard of election fraud.

They (the Republicans, who fall into two camps, the incompetent and the criminal) will do anything (absolutely ANYTHING) to win. They will lie, cheat, steal, destroy documents, subvert the Constitution, violate their oaths of office, bribe, manipulate, even, when they believe it necessary, KILL --- they will literally do ANYTHING.

Will we?

Perhaps those regs were intended to dis the southern states who were subject to the Voting Rights Act:

"They had this big press conference in a bipartisan fashion, announcing a deal that said there would be no amendments," noted one Democratic aide who wished to remain anonymous. "Then, they changed the rules to allow two amendments."

The terms of the amendments, if they pass, would make Hawaii the only state required to seek justice department approval for any changes to their electoral systems. Currently that requirement applies to 16 states.

Democrats say that, while a history of racism and disenfranchisement in southern states remains a concern of theirs, the real reason to avoid these amendments is to prevent the sorts of recently enacted measures that have allowed Republicans to take control of more seats in the house from continuing.

(link here, bold added). Hey if the rules are contrary to a crooked agenda, change the rules or just loose them if you are Bruce McPherson, CA SoS.

We all know that there are only two ways to "win" an election:

1) fair and square
2) Diebold's way (republican SoS way)

Diebold is a republican company ... and so is ES&S. Those two make most electronic election machines, which count the votes of Americans.

And as Stalin said, it is not who votes, it is who counts the votes that controls power. Bruce McPherson, SoS, you really count stink.

Speaking of chicanery, I'm sure many of you are aware of the current election goings-on in Mexico. This article details it pretty well:

"Mexico: Calderón Hasn't Won"
By Joshua Holland, AlterNet. Posted July 10, 2006.

"...López Obrador and his supporters claim there were irregularities at 40,000 of the country's 130,000 polling places...
...López Obrador has called for a complete ballot-by-ballot recount...

...So far, at least three reports of completed ballots found trashed in dumpsters have been splashed across the front pages of major Mexican newspapers. Independent foreign observers have reported seeing vote-buying first hand, along with votes being counted without representatives from all major parties present, a violation of Mexican law..."

Much more detail in the article. Very much worth reading:
link

Well of course the procedures are gone. If one hasn't any procedures then there is no way of breaking them and thus no way to be held liable for breaking them and causing an expensive recount. "HA! There ARE no procedures...so we COULDN'T have broken them," they say.

LOU DOBBS, YOU READING THIS???????????

Bill Lockyear (and ACLU) needs to be contacted and charge Bruce McPherson and Haas with malfeasance and misfeance of office for knowingly allowing elections to take place on non-certified electronic voting machines---among many other violations that they knowingly allowed.

These people need to pay for their crimes against Californians. Make them pay millions in defending themselves until they get the message like they did to Clinton and Kevin Shelly.

Heads up for a piece on Lou Dobbs (CNN) tonight. I just saw the teaser ad for "Is the government doing anything about the vulnerability of voting machines?"

Isn't Lou Dobbs already over for tonight? It's at 3:00pm Pacific, 6:00pm Eastern. Did anyone see it?

-- Chris Hooten

Lou Dobbs repeats at 1:00am Pacific (in case anyone was interested)

-- Chris Hooten

The two greatest women in America right now are Bev Harris & Amy Goodman. The Reichwingers have....ummmmm...Ann Coulter??? Bev Harris & Amy Goodman are 2 women that young girls can look up to, as great role models.

Big Dan --- Joseph ("Jody") Holder and David Ashby are the heroes of this story. Jody Holder has been plugging away at this story for months.

So modest...
I agree with Big Dan, you, Bev, are indeed a great role model. You have done way more than your share.

-- Chris Hooten

Aye Bev. Your a role model.
I had some problems with the ss.ca.gov website myself.

Their webmaster sucks, and the search engine can't grep pdf's. And I also saw shit disappear off their website.
All their official crap just pisses me off, there wouldn't be a problem it they didn't add these fscking electronic voting machines to the mix. Anywhere they can use electronics it's going to shit.

I Can't prove anything though. It's the politics of electricity and digitized data, the e-fraud blues.

The TOPIC of this thread (to me) is just another proof of concept conspiracy theory; now totally affirmed (at least to me) to be real.

History will look back on these facts and we will be vindicated.

~phil