I take it, then, that you believe every name on the voter rolls is valid. Every fraudulent vote disenfranchises a valid vote. There is little doubt that there are more fraudulent votes than there are registered voters who weren't allowed to vote due to lack of ID.

"Some N.J. voters still running into problems at polling places, monitors say"

http://www.nj.com/news/i..._still_ran_into_pro.html

Robert Lee said:

I take it, then, that you believe every name on the voter rolls is valid.

Nope. There's a lot of dead wood, as everyone agrees, which is (one of the reasons) why there have been so many purges in those roles since the state computer database registration has been required by HAVA.

How many of those deadwood registrants "vote"? Almost none, as all legitimate experts, as well as DoJ reports, tend to agree.

Every fraudulent vote disenfranchises a valid vote.

Yup. And every voter disenfranchised by overly draconian restrictions disenfranchises a valid vote and robs an American of their rights.

There is little doubt that there are more fraudulent votes than there are registered voters who weren't allowed to vote due to lack of ID.

"Little doubt" by who? Fox "News" viewers who've been lied to about it? Perhaps, but nobody else who actually knows what they're talking about. FAR more voters are disenfranchised by suppressing legal votes than by non-existant voters voting. It's not even close. Unless, of course, you're a Fox "News" viewer and believe in John Fund and Glenn Beck more than actual SCIENCE and stuff.

But you are welcome to continue your delusions as you like. Sadly, the result is Americans denied of their democratic rights.

Keeping track of the Numbers in NY-23:

http://www.nydailynews.c...1/the-paper-problem.html

Could get REALLY interesting if it's so close a recount happens too:

"There have even been some anecdotal reports of 23rd CD residents coming in to boards of elections and demanding their absentee ballots back since Scozzafava dropped out of the race"

Bull-crap whining about fraud from the GOP:

http://tpmmuckraker.talk...ves_again_sto.php?ref=mp

Where were they BEFORE they were losing elections? I mean besides creating caging lists.

From TPM's latest update in that article, the ludicrous:

"ACORN Aims to Tip New Jersey Election in Corzine's Favor"

http://www.newsmax.com/h...al&promo_code=8FF9-1

And ACORN has already answered their accusation too:

"ACORN: We're Not Even Working In New Jersey"

http://tpmmuckraker.talk...in_new_jersey.php?ref=mp

today went pretty smoothly at my precinct. as an election judge, i did witness some red tape. out of 98 voters 4 had to have forms filled out due to a name change (hyphenated married name), change of address (p.o. box was his "mailing" add.- not sufficient & the other because his i.d. said terrace instead of street) & the last because she was deceased...

with proper paperwork, 3 of them got to vote...

Jacki, where are you located?

"Machine glitches may delay vote reporting in four St. Lawrence towns"
http://www.watertowndail...com/section/breakingnews

"...voting machines in Fulton County, which is a part of the 23rd Congressional District, have been impounded, after the machines were not working property today, the Fulton County Board of Elections confirms."

http://www.9wsyr.com/new...52Bssm0iYlGz06S7Chg.cspx

John Fund...sounds like a collection to rent a porta potty if the sewer in your apartment backs up.

Now that's funny.

Yer durn' tootin', Chris Hooten!

That ain;t just dumb - that's DAMN dumb!

I voted pretty much without a hitch in Ohio yesterday, although the printer inside the machine bucked and wiggled and whirred so much, everyone wondered - as well as me - if it was about to explode! It did print though.

Seventeenth amendment changed the right to a privilege.