READER COMMENTS ON
"Rove Threatened GOP IT Guru If He Does Not 'Take the Fall' for Election Fraud in Ohio, Says Attorney"
(79 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Bruce Sims
said on 7/24/2008 @ 5:20 pm PT...
Thanks Brad; if 'digg' is any indication, you are the ONLY news source -of the ones Arnebeck copied- that has published anything about this.
Kudos.
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racehorse
said on 7/24/2008 @ 5:32 pm PT...
This should be front page news --- let's see how long the MSM sits on this one --- it reminds me of the hit on Valerie Plame when Joe Wilson came out about the yellow cake. What's with the GOP going after spouses?
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Mugzi
said on 7/24/2008 @ 5:52 pm PT...
Don't look for any of this in MSM - wouldn't look good for Mclame. Get ready...sounds like rigging machines is right on target for November!
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Mugzi
said on 7/24/2008 @ 6:00 pm PT...
Are you telling me Mc doesn't know what this guy does??? Mc surely knows what he did in Ohio and that is why he is on Mc team - do the same and rig machines for him!
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anonoman
said on 7/24/2008 @ 6:16 pm PT...
The headline you chose is false, according to your story. It should begin, "Hearsay: ..." I do not trust this hearsay one iota! It is hilarious to see how easily this tale is wagging the hounds though.
Try to remember, Ohio had the easiest to steal elections ever. To change a Kerry vote to a Bush vote, you just moved the punch card to the next precinct pile. This ruse may be more cover-up and smoke screen of the obvious way to steal Ohio elections for a decade.
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mick
said on 7/24/2008 @ 6:35 pm PT...
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MarkH
said on 7/24/2008 @ 6:46 pm PT...
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FreedomOfInformationAct
said on 7/24/2008 @ 8:35 pm PT...
Isn't that a federal crime?
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/24/2008 @ 9:00 pm PT...
FOIA! It's almost to the point where it's only remarkable when it isn't a Federal crime!
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Joan
said on 7/24/2008 @ 9:10 pm PT...
The MSM is naturally deferring to Brad on this story, as they should and must. As a super double-secret agent, he deserves no less.
You are a hero and a patriot, Brad. I'll bet our georgie is polishing your Medal of Freedom as we speak, so to speak. God knows you deserve it!
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Shawn
said on 7/24/2008 @ 9:13 pm PT...
Dang! And just when I had convinced myself that government is our friend!
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Ancient
said on 7/24/2008 @ 11:04 pm PT...
Dear # 11, only when within our Constitution! Hey 99, the link doesn't work. Can you believe this shit aint on msm for the trillionth time?
{Ed Note: I'm assuming you meant Shawn's page. It's fixed. And, yes, I can believe this shit ain't on the fascist media for the trillionth time. I got used to it at about the billionth time. --99}
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/24/2008 @ 11:55 pm PT...
OMG! Joan! Those medals from * are the kiss of death! Turn around three times and spit, quick!
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Larry Bergan
said on 7/25/2008 @ 2:33 am PT...
Karl Rove must be livid he has to deal with the silly Bradosphere! The only real place to get a synopsis of the most important stories today!
True journalism!
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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FOIA/PA
said on 7/25/2008 @ 3:49 am PT...
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Phil
said on 7/25/2008 @ 4:41 am PT...
It's getting close to pitchfork time. Motherfuckers better start holding Rat Fuckers accountable pretty soon.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Phil
said on 7/25/2008 @ 4:54 am PT...
PS: I WISH I had a three prong pitchfork, but I currently only own a four prong.
I know, making funny on serious shit.
In my opinion, these Rat Fuckers are lucky they haven't been picked off one at a time already. And that's either something to say for the integrity of the American people, or something to say for propaganda, lies and blacklists of the fascist corporate media.
My country is hanging by a thread.
I think the stock market will crash really soon. Say Sept. If not Sept, then by Feb. 09.
We just got raped by congress on FISA and any moment raped again on HR3221 ->Senate or whatever the fuck their shit is called now.
I am sick and fucking tired of writing our fucking rep's. Each one has some candy ass FORM that can's your shit into some stupid ass topic that isn't what your saying. There's not SINGLE BUTTON to all Senators SEND. Email is considered DOGSHIT compared to FAX (with it's ack/nak), and it's too expensive to SHOW UP EVERY FUCKING TIME!
They better PRAY, the American People don't snap. Fuck Martial Law, you think the COPS can stop ALL THE PEOPLE?
This fucking government...(cough, I don't mean that) this fucking Administration better get a fucking clue. They are not some kind of GODS, and if they think they are they are going to end up being a DYING GOD. (Research 13)
I am fucking sick of this shit, they have destroyed EVERYTHING in less than eight years, and even at this moment I am sucking SMOKE AIR.
ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Phil
said on 7/25/2008 @ 5:16 am PT...
One last thought. Cause I sucked my fucking 6 beers, and a fucking codine, and a pennicillian vk 500 down.
Bradblog is the most important website on this planet.
There are only a fucking hand full of us that SERIOUSLY TAKE our OATHS to this Country. The psycho guy (he is fucked) from South America that said, "El Diablo, I still smell the Sulfur" was fucking spot on. On that statement. Wherever Bush goes he stains the holy ground.
When you WORK for the United States you don't pull the shit that has been going on the last 7 years! I see how they are jamming up different agencies at lower levels now. What's happening is a crime against humanity.
The dollar is worth http://stockcharts.com/c...mp;a=86621016&r=3325
That's tracking four years, and the thing is that doesn't represent the invisible PRINTING OF VAPOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I currently do not WORK for the US Govt. As regulars on the Bradblog know I am ex-USAF.
But just look at how they are fucking their own with the TSP! (hint: another two hat wearing Bush appointee- SCREW governmentexecutive.com and their loyalist political propaganda. It's is RAPING MY FAMILY!!)
And you know what, when I loose everything, I am going to make someone pay. So you better hope that doesn't happen. Because if that happens I will have NOTHING TO LOSE. And since I pay attention I Know targets.
Back in the days I served in the USAF I swore a god damned "oath to protect the president"
This president reminds me of a fucking washed-out used car salesman from the 1970's. It FEELS like the bastard has coated the Whitehouse with a bum four banger with a bad head's stinky burnt grease.
I want that office CLEANSED from this vile shit. And the integrity of this nation restored.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Phil
said on 7/25/2008 @ 5:17 am PT...
Yank this fucking KARL ROVE's fuckin Security Clearance! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 7/25/2008 @ 6:35 am PT...
#5, that might explain the "Conelly Anomaly", but first you have to be able to see ALL of the ballots.
Interesting point you have there.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 7/25/2008 @ 6:49 am PT...
Ot, E*Trade baby does Scarface. (put your drinks down)
Link
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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TomM
said on 7/25/2008 @ 8:39 am PT...
Term limits.
The Democrats in PA (Bonus Gate - using 4+million of tax payer dollars to get/stay elected - and screwed ) are as corrupt as the repubs in Ohio.
FYI: If your worried about being screwed - look at the fannyMay/FreddyMac bailout That is going to cost us all a heck of alot, trillions ?
Inflation the hidden tax.
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Mike
said on 7/25/2008 @ 9:59 am PT...
It used to be just the "Ass Fuckers" and other pervs were taking over the Whitehouse. Now it's the "Angry AssHoles" that are running America's schools, churches and businesses into the grave.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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Linda
said on 7/25/2008 @ 10:25 am PT...
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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Vet
said on 7/25/2008 @ 10:31 am PT...
I used to send faxes to members of the House of Representatives and the Senate. Always civil, always on a single issue. Never got a response. Gave it up. Now I live someplace else. It's better here.
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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Easterling
said on 7/25/2008 @ 10:47 am PT...
Mukaskey to prosecute KKKarla Rove! Hah! Google 'Mukasky 9/11' to paraphrase Johnny Rotten of Sex Pistols fame "ever get the feeling you've been had?" Great piece Brad. Thanks. To bad it does not fit MSM reality script!
LIVE FREE OR DIE
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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Lora
said on 7/25/2008 @ 10:51 am PT...
I hope it's for real.
Fisherman's prayer:
Lord give me grace to catch a fish so big
That I, when talking of it afterwards
May never need to lie.
Let's hope it's the Big Catch and not The One That Got Away.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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Michael
said on 7/25/2008 @ 11:12 am PT...
anonoman said on 7/24/2008 @ 6:16 pm PT:
The headline you chose is false, according to your story. It should begin, "Hearsay: ..."
Hmmmm the headline states:
Rove Threatened GOP IT Guru If He Does Not 'Take the Fall' for Election Fraud in Ohio, Says Attorney
Anonoman please note it says at the end "Says Attorney". If this was left off then yes it would be hearsay.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Hank W
said on 7/25/2008 @ 11:28 am PT...
Election Fraud, yet another infringement on our rights by the gov't. Add it to the ever-growing list of violations:
They violate the 1st Amendment by opening mail, caging demonstrators and banning books like America Deceived (book) from Amazon.
They violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating guns during Katrina.
They violate the 4th Amendment by conducting warrant-less wiretaps.
They violate the 5th and 6th Amendment by suspending habeas corpus.
They violate the 8th Amendment by torturing.
They violate the entire Constitution by starting 2 illegal wars based on lies and on behalf of a foriegn gov't.
Support Dr. Ron Paul and save this great country.
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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Yubba
said on 7/25/2008 @ 12:42 pm PT...
Anonoman in Comment #5 is within his rights to disbelieve this info, but he is not correct in asserting it as hearsay.
Hearsay is an out of court statement offered to prove the truth of the matter asserted. Generally, hearsay is inadmissible in court, but numerous exceptions exist, so many that roughly 80% of all hearsay can be admitted as evidence.
This threat might be considered hearsay if it were offered to show Rove was threatening Connell. But if it were offered to show Connell felt threatened, it would be perfectly admissible as non-hearsay.
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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anonoman
said on 7/25/2008 @ 2:20 pm PT...
"Rove Threatened GOP IT Guru .... Says Attorney" is the title.
"We have been confidentially informed by a source we believe to be credible" is what Arnebeck writes.
If this is not Brad reporting hearsay, what is hearsay? I'm not referring to the legal definition in a court admissibility hearing. I'm referring to the journalism. Brad is reporting that an attorney said that someone said. I'm saying I do not have reason to believe the secret informant. Why should I?
How Ohio votes were stolen is "hidden" in plain sight. It has been clearly demonstrated. Trying to point to new theory at this late date is rather absurd, especially when the theory is incongruous with the facts. If there was a tabulator hack (as the litigants seem to maintain pointing to the down-ticket anomalies), surely the hacker would not have created the down-ticket anomalies.
The evidence points to ballot-switching. Ballot switching was the easiest way to steal Ohio elections, too easy in hindsight!! Why not investigate the Occam's razor option first?
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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LanceThruster
said on 7/25/2008 @ 2:37 pm PT...
Un-f*cking-believabe!.
Well, actually, totally f*cking believable considering the bottom feeders we're talking about here.
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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Morgan
said on 7/25/2008 @ 2:59 pm PT...
Don't even get me started on the Supreme Court.
and they just ruled that the roadblocks on the Interstate in Arizona are legal(even though they are using drug dogs)
The most corrupt dept in the gov is the Justice Dept, followed closely by the Labor Dept.
Forth circuit is obviously just a rubber stamp, and now they are destroying all the evidence at the White House.
If we don't impeach, GW is going to pardon all his buddies.
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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fubar
said on 7/25/2008 @ 2:59 pm PT...
Number 17 (Phil) I'm with you. I have written and called my reps here in Ohio, not to mention others. Including and not limited to our gutless speaker of the house and I am disgusted with their total lack of interest. I will never give up, but how long can you hang in when you know they all clearly couldn't care less about their constituents and the rule of law? Btw, I hope Rove is prosecuted and put in Supermax. He is a traitor. He needs to be with the other scumbags that are threats to this country and that is the best place for him. Also, he could fill in George and Dick and let them know what their cells will look like once the congress gets a spine and impeaches and imprisons those mf'ers.
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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newbroom
said on 7/25/2008 @ 3:07 pm PT...
to the installation of the currently-used Congressional computer network firewall.
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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yvonne
said on 7/25/2008 @ 4:32 pm PT...
#31: "Hearsay" IS a legal term relative to the rules of evidence in a COURT OF LAW, and yes, it is inadmissible for the purposes of establishing fact. However, this isn't a "he said, she said he said" thing, okay. And the Brad Blog's purpose is not to establish legal authority or fact--thats for the courts to decide--but to REPORT this information to we the people.
"...Arnebeck could not publicly reveal specific details of the information that triggered his concern about the threats to Connell....We have been confidentially informed by a source we believe to be credible...."
This article is more about WHY Arnebeck is seeking protection for his client, and that at this time, the "credible source" must remain anonymous due to the seriousness of the threat.
THANKS BRAD FOR GOOD REPORTING!
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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Dan
said on 7/25/2008 @ 4:43 pm PT...
Fake. The AskDOJ email address is a public address on the DOJ's web site; it most certainly doesn't go to Mukasey. Also, lawyers send important information on paper via courier. Always. The first page will say "By HAND" under the date line, and it's literal.
Sorry, but this email is a phony.
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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Joan
said on 7/25/2008 @ 5:00 pm PT...
Re #13,
Don't be silly, 99...as a super double-secret agent (or is it double super-secret agent?) Brad has access to the zillions of super-nifty toys in the Agency's arsenal! A good thing, too, because Jeeezus! these people are double super-disgraceful excuses for human beings. But you know that)
SO GO GET 'EM, BRAD!!
(I did spin & spit, though, just to be on the safe side)
COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 7/25/2008 @ 5:00 pm PT...
Dan, I've been holding my judgment on this too, so far some of it seems not right to me.
I'm not holding my breath.
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/25/2008 @ 5:18 pm PT...
Well, yes, Joan, he is getting the knack of super double-secret sleuthing, starting to really be able to separate the K.A.O.S. agents from the rabble. We may try to recruit him for C.O.N.T.R.O.L. if he keeps it up. Issue him his own shoe phone and maybe even fix the cone of silence....
COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
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yvonne
said on 7/25/2008 @ 6:09 pm PT...
#37: Email??? Are you suggesting that Arnebeck's email to Mukasey is somehow fraudulent??? LOL!! If so, that's pretty damn desparate of you--not to mention downright irrational.
COMMENT #42 [Permalink]
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ROBinDALLAS
said on 7/25/2008 @ 6:29 pm PT...
Rove will go down, one way or another.
When he does, we will see what kind of tough talk will fall from his quivering lips.
To offset the cost of his incarceration they should put a webcam in his cell so we could watch what happens to him in prison.
Brad, you are my hero! Keep up the good work!
COMMENT #43 [Permalink]
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jjandi
said on 7/25/2008 @ 6:42 pm PT...
It could probably be shown by fact's and figure's that there is no distinctly American criminal class exept congress. ...Mark Twain...
If we really want to take back America, we need to vote out all incumbent's.
Rhett Bushler and Scarlet O'Laura will soon be gone with the wind. Me
COMMENT #44 [Permalink]
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yvonne
said on 7/25/2008 @ 6:48 pm PT...
#37: Also, attorneys generally utilize courier services to comply with the court's requirement of "proof of service" of legal documuments relative to a case, such as subpoenas, complaints, notices, motions, declarations/ affidavits--anything that is going to be filed with the court, or compels attendance of a party or witness to a legal proceeding, such as a deposition, court hearing, etc.. This proof of service can also be in the form of an affidavit or declaration of service by mail.
There is no requirement for proof of service of this email.
COMMENT #45 [Permalink]
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socrates
said on 7/25/2008 @ 7:43 pm PT...
This is Wayne Madsen for the rich man. I finally looked into the Clint Curtis story. There were no electronic voting machines when he alleges Feeney wanted him to write cheat codes.
Did we ever see the polygraph transcript? Did we ever see the police report for the shot dog? Anyone ever check out Curtis and see he is a conservative? It's the same with Brad. I don't mind Bev Harris being a conservative, because she has never feigned otherwise, unlike the person running this place. But the truth seeps through after a while.
This place is a strawman. It can now be tied to Michael Rivero through the Progressive Independent's ties to Velvet Revolution.
Search engine for Brett Kimberlin. Why no story on him, Brad? You don't want your readers to know you are partners with a bomber and admitted drug dealer? He even had his own little tinfoil 15 minutes of fame when he said he used to deal pot to Dan Quayle.
It's funny what folks can miss, when they are too busy hoping to have found a real hero to lean on.
Don't you see, good people?
Brad-Agent99-Tinoire-Wayne Madsen-Michael Rivero = part of that zany unsubstantiated blogosphere, with plenty of limited hangouts available.
The most telling to me is how Brad never stuck up for Bev Harris at the Democratic Underground. He could have put a stop to that but didn't. Now Larissa RawStory is throwing snide comments at Bev Harris. Something don't smell right.
COMMENT #46 [Permalink]
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PrissyPatriot
said on 7/25/2008 @ 8:08 pm PT...
Cliff keep fighting the good fight, we've got your back! If that "guru" takes the fall, he is a fool.
Rover has more crimes against him than Al Capone ever considered..
COMMENT #47 [Permalink]
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Igor
said on 7/25/2008 @ 8:20 pm PT...
LOL! What's it going to be, Karl? A pistol in the mouth or a cock in the ass? It's your choice, fat boy--and for us, it's just FUN TO WATCH! Welcome to hell...you're home!
COMMENT #48 [Permalink]
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Paul
said on 7/25/2008 @ 9:00 pm PT...
SSSSuhhh-WEEEEEEEET. Finally the crows are starting to roost on his ugly head and poop on him. This is just so sweet. Hope it's true, and hope he does have to choose between the options in #47. Except I hope he never gets to the first one and gets to be somebody's bitch in jail
COMMENT #49 [Permalink]
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ROBinDALLAS
said on 7/25/2008 @ 9:09 pm PT...
Caveat from US history:
The FBI's CointelPro included systematic disinformation and instigation of infighting among the Black Panthers and their allied groups. They were successful in getting certain members to distrust other members by planting bogus letters and evidence. They successfully created internal dissension. The results were tragic. Divide and Conquer?
COMMENT #50 [Permalink]
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GWN
said on 7/25/2008 @ 9:14 pm PT...
Time for a BIG distraction. What will it be?
COMMENT #51 [Permalink]
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Dana
said on 7/25/2008 @ 9:51 pm PT...
Fuck Rove, who the hell does he think he is? Someone needs to throw his fat ass in prison where it should have been a long time ago!
COMMENT #52 [Permalink]
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Byron
said on 7/25/2008 @ 10:58 pm PT...
May the facists in the WH enjoy the fate of Mussolini.
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Nick
said on 7/26/2008 @ 12:36 am PT...
I just hope vigilantes don't get any wild ideas that could endanger this wonderful man.
COMMENT #54 [Permalink]
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Bostonian Queer in Dallas
said on 7/26/2008 @ 2:33 am PT...
When is someone going to take this fat fuck down? How in hell did we ever get to this place in this once glorious nation? That a nerdy, fat, ugly piece of shit should wield such power?
COMMENT #55 [Permalink]
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plunger
said on 7/26/2008 @ 2:44 am PT...
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TEDEGER
said on 7/26/2008 @ 4:00 am PT...
What have all you guys got against Federal Prisons? Sending Turd Blossom to one of them would degrade its population. The ONLY place for him is GITMO! A session or two on the waterboard might make him a little human.
COMMENT #57 [Permalink]
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makesenseofit
said on 7/26/2008 @ 5:54 am PT...
Karl has a mental problem. Such that when he was in high school he was afraid or at least not so sure he would get beat up on the bus. Usually young men who are mentally damaged by this experience become police officers and at times become members of position and control.
I think Karl fits this description.
An opinion gone arrye...and found George, the person through whom he lived his power base and the way he was able to have control and power. He did whatever it took to get that person in the position of power... whether it be through intimidation, corruption manipulation etc....
COMMENT #58 [Permalink]
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ratface
said on 7/26/2008 @ 6:28 am PT...
Karl should be put away, we all know he has done much of the crooked stuff this administration is famous for. I would like him to be put in the square and all of us allowed our whack at him, Bush and Cheney included.
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lthuedk
said on 7/26/2008 @ 10:07 am PT...
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Henry
said on 7/26/2008 @ 11:07 am PT...
Great story brad! Will karl Rove, Harriet myers, and josh bolton; ever answer the congressional subpoena's? what will we tell the children? why some people must report to answer A subpoena and others do not?
COMMENT #61 [Permalink]
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Dan
said on 7/26/2008 @ 11:23 am PT...
re: #41 & #44
Yvonne: he doesn't identify his firm or office, he's using an email address that likely goes to some webmaster, and it's common practice for attorneys to use courier services for anything sensitive, not just related to cases already filed; for example, in this purported email he makes reference to being "confidentially informed," which would be absurd, not to mention unprofessional, to send via email to a mystery address. At worst it could've been mailed to the attention of the Attorney General or, as is also common, faxed.
There's also another way to share information with a particular person: call them on the phone. And perhaps if you can't get the Attorney General, you'll get someone who can help you send information properly.
COMMENT #62 [Permalink]
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david porter
said on 7/26/2008 @ 11:35 am PT...
Good luck getting "Rove's e-mails from the White House to the Justice Department, the FBI, the Pentagon, Congress and various federal regulatory agencies..."
Former Lobbyist Pleads Guilty to Trying to Destroy Evidence
Cecelia Grimes, 43, admitted that she threw out documents sought by FBI agents shortly after they visited her home...admitted that she put her BlackBerry email device in a trash can near a fast-food restaurant to prevent FBI agents from reviewing some of her emails.
http://www.washingtonpos...4.html?hpid=sec-politics
COMMENT #63 [Permalink]
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Brad Friedman
said on 7/26/2008 @ 12:05 pm PT...
Socrates @ #45:
Your posts are just getting more and more absurd, and more and more of a waste of time, but it's your time, and if you wish to waste it on your fantasies, that's up to you. It is annoying, however, when you continue to hijack threads with nonsense like this:
I finally looked into the Clint Curtis story. There were no electronic voting machines when he alleges Feeney wanted him to write cheat codes.
I guess you didn't "finally looked" hard enough before coming here to hijack the thread with nonsense, and already discredited Tom Feeney talking points.
Here's a bit of help for you in reply to the above.
Beyond that, not gonna bother with the rest of your silly comment, other than to suggest that just because you have been unable to find what you're looking for, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just means that you haven't done much due-diligence in order to find it.
I've tried to be patient with you, Socrates, but I admit that even as your posts are becoming more and more amusing in their ridiculousness, my patience for this stuff is really beginning to wear out. K?
COMMENT #64 [Permalink]
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lthuedk
said on 7/26/2008 @ 1:19 pm PT...
COMMENT #65 [Permalink]
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PatriotAct
said on 7/26/2008 @ 3:27 pm PT...
They are all crooks, we are all suckers.
COMMENT #66 [Permalink]
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PatriotAct
said on 7/26/2008 @ 3:54 pm PT...
If Rove is aware of this woman's violations of laws regarding lobbying and failed to report this then he is in Misprision of felony, a common position for those scrutinized with Kucinich's articles of impeachment. Rove may have committed a felony by hiding this woman's potentially illegal conduct.
Rove's attempt to intimidate is done with an act of collusion implicit in the woman's potential crimes and Rove's failure to provide information to authorities on this crime. Rove is a co-conspirator with the woman to hide her crimes, wether he knows her or acted with her. He is guilty after the fact as a conspirator within the scope of her crime by interfering with justice to obfuscate and hide her crime, through his inaction.
All of us here on this blog may be observing a felony violation of the USA Patriot Act. Allow me an explanation.
Tampering directly with an investigation by coercing witnesses with threats, when the matter being investigated is a matter of national security as important as our free elections is in my opinion an attempt to intimidate proponents of free elections with color of law prosecution that is borne from Misprision of Felony, it is unamerican, it is a felony violation of the USA Patriot Act.
Any conspiracy using intimidation to damage the system of free elections in the United States of America is a violation of the USA Patriot Act.
Karl Rove has committed a felony violation of the USA Patriot Act by using intimidation and threat to affect the integrity of free elections in the United States of America.
Prosecute Karl Rove with USA Patriot Act felony violations.
COMMENT #67 [Permalink]
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Chris Hooten
said on 7/26/2008 @ 4:05 pm PT...
"Wonderful man"? Nick, I think you are delusional. In the end, he will take his own life, because that is the kind of pussy he is. I certainly wouldn't want to wish this apon anyone, but it's not my fault if he's a egocentric pussy who wouldn't be able to handle the legal proceedings sure to happen soon.
COMMENT #68 [Permalink]
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Chris Hooten
said on 7/26/2008 @ 4:07 pm PT...
BTW I would prefer him sitting in prison.
COMMENT #69 [Permalink]
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 7/26/2008 @ 7:09 pm PT...
Socrates. Socrates. Socrates. But not the real philosopher names Socrates OF COURSE who challenged people in his time to question to status que definitions of ideals and words accepted as the norm. Your post clearly states your inadequate investigations of the Clint Curtis vote rigging scandal. That's makes the allegations of your post both disinformation and propaganda. Later you try to make some BS remark about Brad not sticking up for Bev? Yo! Shit for brains. You hijacked the name of 1 of the greatest Grecian philosophers in history to talk out your fcking ace? It's people like you who steal credibility from the quote blogosphere telling lies trying to create controversy. I suggest you change your name to avoid diminishing the value of the famous thinker who's QUALITIES YOU DO NOT POSSESS. How bout something more fitting like fcking dog vomit or Rove's ace wipe? Not to offend anyone else, i'm just trying to help you out.
{Ed. Note: Grizz, dude, please, I know you're annoyed, and certainly no more than I, but honestly, you know the rules. No personal attacks. I'm really going to have to ask you to stop that. Thank you in advance for your coöperation. --99}
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nightslider
said on 7/27/2008 @ 12:12 am PT...
AW how Rovian can we get, and the languge used here, thought I had passed the local choir for disharmony on skid ave.
Really folkes The vestibule of shit that walks around on two legs will be all the happier when he is convicted for his many transgressions, and that day of reckoning is slowly coming, at some point Busah will not be abel to protect this worm, he cam pardon him before the fact for FEDERAL CRIMES but not state crimes, those are the purview of the states rights.
I will be one of the many holding pom poms when the son of a beitch hears the bars of the Iron bar hotel close on his ass, I know he'll develop rectum tightus real quick, once released in to the general population.
COMMENT #71 [Permalink]
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socrates
said on 7/27/2008 @ 5:02 am PT...
Nice ad hominems by Brad. Do I care? No. It's typical of the zeitgeist crew.
Hey Grizzly Bear, same to you. People can go through the DU archives and see Bev Harris get ripped apart by paid fakes, and Brad did nothing to defend her.
So the Clint Curtis story adds up due to circular reasoning. Great. Thanks for that.
Then the fake moderator chimes in as if she is fair. Ha!
To the newbies and fence-sitters, these people deep down hate liberals and progressives. I guess I shouldn't have been too surprised when Brad finally got tied to Mike Rivero through the Velvet Revolution.
Good people, search engine Brett Kimberlin, Brad's partner. He's quite the scumbag.
These people are painting the internet a certain way. This whole place is compromised. The fish rots from the head down.
COMMENT #72 [Permalink]
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Paladin must go
said on 7/27/2008 @ 5:51 am PT...
For
A QUICK RECAP OF THE FACTS IN THIS STORY
The place to start is here:
{Ed Note: No link was here, Pmg. --99}
At first glance, it's rather complicated, but as you read the turn of events, the story truly comes in focus and appears to have serious legs.
It's easy to get distracted but if you keep your eye on the ball the following facts are beyond question:
1. The original civil suit started started by Arenebeck was stayed after the 2006 election so that the parties might come together and fix the problem in settlement.
2. The Ohio Attorney General later asked that all of the ballots from the 2004 election be brought to her office so they might be preserved in one place after having earlier, prior to the stay, requested formally that each of the 88 precincts preserve all ballots.
3. A large majority of these precincts reported back to the AG that the ballots were missing.
4. AG gets pissed off.
5. Arnebeck sends all of his evidence regarding the destruction of ballots reflecting the cavalier attitude of the operatives who were in charge of preserving the ballots.
6. AG gets really pissed off and decides to begin "criminal contempt" proceedings, and asks Arnebeck, "Who do you believe I should indict?"
7. Arnebeck requests that the AG give him time to have the stay removed in the civil case so that he may conduct proper discovery which will then lead to an answer as to who the AG should prosecute. This would save the limited resources of the AG's office to focus on actually prosecuting the criminals instead of a broad grand jury investigation.
8. AG agrees and Arnebeck sends motion to lift the stay to the Judge in this case citing new evidence.
9. Arnebeck gives press conference where he introduces his key expert witness, a man who has worked with the Secret Service and other Government agencies on bank and wire fraud. Let's call him "the spoon".
The spoon just happens to be a very serious son of a bitch, one of these tech nerds who is like Wyatt Earp mixed with Eliot Ness but on the IT frontier. He writes the software that keeps our checking/credit accounts safe from the banditos and has alot of experience helping the FEDS track bad guys down.
10. The Spoon tells those at the presser, including an AP rep, that form what he has seen, there was a very clear technical line of evidence proving that votes were switched and fraud took place stealing the 2004 election. And the spoon is not shy about it. He cites evidence and makes a strong case.
11. The spoon has worked with Mike Connell and says Mike Connell was simply the guy who designed the systems which brought the electronic tallies into various cyber places where they were able to be hijakced by cloak and dagger tech operatives but that Connel is not the villain.
The Spoon says Connel was doing a straight job and that there are banditos at the other end who then took Connell's legit work and hacked it.
12. The Spoon believes he can prove this.
See the press conference here:
{Ed Note: No link was here, Pmg. --99}
13. Following this very interesting and, for the villains, frightening press conference, Rove allegedly tells Connell he must fall on his sword so the triple chinned Jaba the hut with glasses can continue to east salmon almondine and act like a playah doing his GOP strut for the good of the whitest richest wasps on the planet or Rove will have Connell's wife prosecuted for lobbying violations.
14. Somehow, and we dont have the facts on this part, the story gets out Connell was threatened.
15. Arnebeck requests immunity and protection for Connell and his wife, sends letters to Mukasey, Conyers Kucinich etc.
Bear in mind, that just because Rove makes a threat, doesn't mean Connell's wife broke any laws. Rove is capable of anything.
It's also not been proved that Connell was threatened by Rove. We have seen no evidence of that as of yet.
So, this appears to be the most interesting story in the blogosphere right now, and what makes it particularly fascinating is that there may be a technological trail already in the hands of the spoon.
THE SPOON IS ONE BAD ASS MOFO. AND IF HE HAS THE GOODS ON ROVE'S TECH CRONIES THEY ARE IN DEEP SHIT.
If the spoon and Connell get alone in the same room... well Rove is not going to be happy about it.
It's popcorn time again. One can only hope this isn't some elaborate Rovian smokescreen to hide some other stinky poo....
But The Spoon gives me hope.
Brad, this is the most important story you've ever worked on. Stay focussed. This is it.
COMMENT #73 [Permalink]
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socrates
said on 7/27/2008 @ 4:02 pm PT...
I'll apologize for my last comment. This could be my last or second to last post. It's been a good run, but it's obviously time to go. I did see Brad sticking up for Bev Harris in one thread against David "Kelvin Mace" Allen, her ex-publisher.
All roads appear to be leading to Brett Kimberlin. I will post about this at my blog in either the public forum or the astroturfing section.
COMMENT #74 [Permalink]
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Corey Mondello
said on 7/28/2008 @ 2:58 am PT...
"Connell and his firm are currently employed by the John McCain campaign, as well as the RNC and other Republican and so-called "faith-based" organizations."
That in itself would motivate me to pat Karl Rove on the back to get this man removed from politics indefinately!
Corey Mondello
Boston, Massachusetts
7-28-08
www.CoreyMondello.com
COMMENT #75 [Permalink]
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FreedomOfInformationAct
said on 7/29/2008 @ 8:50 am PT...
So, when can we expect the incarceration of the turdblossom? Anyday now.
COMMENT #76 [Permalink]
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 7/29/2008 @ 3:41 pm PT...
To Socrates: i'm sure you think of yourself as a reasonable person who stands behind his words. Unfortunately, i am a person who happens to be American with an average intellect who is not happy with the flagerant above the law destructive loser criminals running the hen house here in new Imperalist America. Actually it cuts a little deeper than that because of my knowledge and understanding about the manipulation of the US mass media by the big money 1%ers and their use of the #1 military - industrial complex to execute their will and their wars upon this republic. That forces me as an American citizen to bear some of the responsibility. With exception of the insults, i stand with my words about your post.
The Rovian Executive branch absorbed powers formerly prescribed to the Legislative branch. With few notable exceptions, the 109th-110th Congress has voted amongst themselves to stop representing the American people as well as sherking their Congressional Constitutional oath by acting as accomplices to the puppet Bush-Cheney takeover.
The few independent voices of reason on the issue of US elections and the state of affairs such as Mr. Brad Friedman's, and Ms. Bev Harris for example are as important as breathing. Nobody's perfect but old school investigative journalists in the field of election integrity are people to be respected BASED ON THEIR WORK. I am so sick of these treasonous losers like Carl Rove who rule as aggressive thugs and continue to have a choker leash on the American people. Only in this current scenario could they still remain in power. I want to destroy them with my words but with a more direct style based on facts and truth than your passive aggressive propaganda hit attempted at post 45.
By allowing this Executive branch to remain in power unchecked and uninvestigated for their election thefts, 9-11 false flag war games, numerous high crimes, misdemeanors, and an endless murderous reign of terror, a dangerous president is set against the survival of the American people, world people, and world species. This must be acknowledged and somehow..somehow corrected.
GBD
COMMENT #77 [Permalink]
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MsSwin
said on 7/30/2008 @ 1:37 pm PT...
You guys worked hard to bring this important matter to the attention of the media and presented it, discussed it in way all could understand. Your work in this regard is very much appreciated by voters not just in Ohio, but everywhere.
You may enjoy a bit of humor while you sit back and give yourselves a well deserved pat on the backs Thank you.
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Coming to your local political theater SOON!
ROVE ROLLS, HE TALKS, HE WALKS
{Ed Note: Thank you very much, MsSwin! And bless your heart, but please read our commenting rules. --99}
COMMENT #78 [Permalink]
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bob
said on 8/7/2008 @ 1:12 am PT...
yeah hmmn ok lets see now!
so a gvt institution overseen by the rethugs is supposed to issue halt and stay notices to rethug related groups about anything that might lead to evidence of their wrongdoing in these contested past elections in which any dipshit can smell the fix. thats like first leaking to the press that the da believes the gambinos are engaged in nafarious activities and that they and anybody that does business with them needs to freeze any evidence that may prove that point. what would that sound like-- Dear carlo please hand over and do not touch any of your accounting concerning the following activities-prostitution-gambling-narcotics-hired hits- extortion and any other rackets you may be engaged in. ps and if you dont we-we are going to be real mad. Hello earth to AG or should i say consigueliare. like any of those people are going to comply. Like tony soprano is going to rack his brain to find and dig up all those dead bodies. talk about being in the game people. you got to bust in on these people and lay down the law like a drug bust, you're about as likely to get any evidence let alone a high level conviction or breaking a major case as paris hilton is to win the clean and jerk contest at the olympics. or howdy duty topping the hiphop charts. Its over its done the rethug syndicate is in high gear coverup way ahead of the game already
good luck!
COMMENT #79 [Permalink]
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edward
said on 8/25/2008 @ 3:15 pm PT...
Mike Connell is my uncle. In no way or form is he apart of any election or ballet scandal. He is a good man of faith. He is honest down to the bone.
Edward Kelly