Yea Brad, I agree. F*cking Hillarious.

Totally inappropriate, to be sure. But funny, like you said.

Peace out.

Warning. The following rant is not directed at Brad.

Hey If all the Superdelegates side with Hillary she could win "according to the party rules" but there would be huge cries of foul from the left blogsphere etc. etc. etc. It would be undemocratic, racist and I would be unhappy about it.
Not including Florida etc is OK though because its a party rule. The disenfranchisement of those voters doesn’t seem undemocratic to the left blogsphere who hate Hillary with a vengeance. Why not call your selves “Fox left” guys of the left. That’s the sort of thing they do. I don’t think I’d vote for Hillary but there’s no denying total lack of concern for a democratic outcome for her re Florida etc.
I really hope Obama can win a general election but think he is the one Fox wants to win the democratic primary. I just hope the radical left haven’t shot themselves in the foot. I don’t much like Hillary but she must be better than the alternative McCain.
I would like to see Obama as president but don’t know if he’ll be able to get the numbers for the general election and cannot help notice all the undemocratic crap been levelled at Hillary. She’s awful but those who can’t remain objective still get me mad.
My belief is that she is hanging on cause she knows Obama may not get the numbers to beat McCain in the Presidential Election where the proportion of white voters (who favour Hillary by a large margin) is much higher. She knows a democrat must win the Whitehouse or your all toast. But still she is maligned on just about everything by the left blogshere.
OK you can all have a go now. I may visit Siberia for a few weeks where there is hopefully no Internet

Don't worry Sally, the right wingnuts are going to lose this election for themselves.
I predict by the fall they'll be calling Obama a n****er right out in the open and the people will finally see what a hateful bunch they are.

Flush Rimbowl is already warming up his "silly negro" shtick from an earlier time I'm sure and Don Anus will be looking for another job again soon.

The outrage of their rhetoric is gone for me now, replaced by how pathetic these crackers really are.

Trolls and Carville included.

Very funny Alan

Floridot

The main thing to me is to get rid of the repugs so you have a bit more time to really make some changes to your system. Some of the things Hillary has been called right out loud by men and women of the left (and right) are just as bad as the N word except people are OK with a woman being treated this way. For me sexism is just as bad as racism even when you don't really like the person theres no excuse. Are you concerned that Floridas votes will not be counted and there will not be a revote. Does the democratic process matter when it comes to a womans right to a fair go. I don't hear people saying it so I imagine they don't care. The numbers might look different if people had looked at this race and how it has affected Clintons chances. So much for the left wanting fair elections is about all I can say.

No Sally I don't care if my vote counted at all this time.

We knew this a year and a half ago that if the Florida legislature moved up the primary that our vote wouldn't count.

It was another dirty trick pulled by the Republicans by attaching this to the get rid of the DRE voting machine bill, which left the Dems with no choice but to vote for it.

The ones who know this aren't complaining.

The only one I really blame is Karen Thurman d-Fl for not filing a lawsuit to begin with, but that's to be expected for someone who works for the Republicans on her slack time.
I see her flipping parties for political expedience eventually.

Floridiot

I truely think if Florida had gone to Barak Obama and he wwere in Hillaries position there would have been very loud noise about this all over the web . It would be an issue and it would have been addressed. Sorry your idea of votes been counted lies with the candidate you prefer. Thats the way it appears to me. I really think we are all tempted to be partizan and will turn a blind eye if we are getting what we want.
I have to watch my self and I do see it sometimes. Democracy is hard but worthwile and we must care about everyones vote and not be selective about it.
Anyway thats more than enough from me for now. Despite differences I respect very much what you are all are doing and hope the best person wins. Obama does seem to be that person.

Sally, it never really mattered to me which candidate won the primary, I'm just a buck the status quo type of guy.
That was the reason I started supporting Obama in the first place.
The rest are better bullshitters because they have been 'in it' for so long and I like to see them eat it for a change, so to speak.

I also think that they have a good team behind him that isn't going to take any shit from the rebumlicans this time while leaving Obama out of the fray.

That's not going to help with the healing process.

I can't say I didn't laugh, though.

BCC said:

That's not going to help with the healing process.

Good. Cuz I ain't a doctor.

I can't say I didn't laugh, though.

Good. Cuz, even as bad as everything has gotten of late, it seems we could still use the laughter... (Not that I'm a doctor.)

Sally...
There is nothing undemocratic about Florida and Michigan delegates not being counted. It is not an arbitrary decision. Those states' democratic parties broke the established rules, and Hillary played cheap when she did not withdraw her name from the ballot as Obama did. I truly wish that something could have been agreed upon where the states could have a revote that would be considered legitimate by everyone. But as it stands, Hillary's "wins" in those states are not legitimate. Not by a long shot. For her to demand those delegates be added to her total is a complete farce, and she comes across as simply self-serving - the argument about "the will of the voters" is bunk, because the voters did not have a real choice in FL or MI...period. If it were Obama who was in Hillary's shoes right now, I'd be saying the same thing, it has nothing to do with my preference for Obama as a candidate.

What about this scenario os so goddamn hard for people to understand? Beats me.

IMO the Florida delegates shouldn't be seated at all at the convention, they are being so arrogant about this when they never said a goddamned thing when this all first went down.

I think that they (Thurman) let it happen to keep Obama from campaigning here, most were Clinton supporters

Soul Rebel

I read just recently that Obama's name was indeed on the Ballot and that he actually ran adds in Florida. He was accused of out and out lying. If thats true it concerns me.
Sorry Brad but if this were Obama on the recieving end of this it would not be a fun issue.
Im done expecting fairness of any type. This just seems to be the crowd baying for Hillaries blood and I've seen that type of thing far too often. I'm almost beyond caring re the whole issue. Call me square. Put any label on me you all like. Unfair treatment is obvious to me here and is not entertaining.

Was Obama on the ballot? Did he run ads? I had not read that.

It doesn't even matter. FL and MI did not follow the rules. Tough shit. This is not an Obama vs. Hillary issue, its a FL and MI fucked up issue.

My only issue with Hillary over FL and MI is that she should not be making these two states the cornerstone of her decision to stay in the race. And she is.

I have plenty of other issues with her though, and how she has run her campaign. She jumps on the Rev Wright bandwagon. She says that she and McCain are qualified to be pres but Obama is not. She calls Obama and his supporters elitists (whatever that means) when she is the one born to riches. And now she race-baits with the polling numbers. WTF is about all I can say.

The only reason she would get my vote in Nov, if that's the way it goes, is the Supreme Court. Beyond that, I'd vote for Nader, because if she gets the nomination something has gone very wrong within the Democratic party. And I didn't feel that way about her in February when my state (NM) had their caucu, in fact I thought she did a better job of stumping than Obama and I saw both of them within 2 days of each other, taped them both, and went back home and rewatched both. She's just run a dogshit nasty campaign and it is hurting the Democrats.

Everyone had their name on the ballot in Florida.

THE BIG LIE about Obama is that he ran campaign ads here alone.

All of the candidates ran ads here on National Network Television Only

Hillary came down here after the primary and had a celebration dinner With the Florida Delegates and Karen Thurman

Obama did no such thing.

Who is bullshitting who here?

Sally -

For the record, I have no dog in the hunt. I can't imagine voting for either Obama or Hillary (or McCain for that matter) next November.

You are correct in that Obama's name was on the FL ballot, but not on the MI ballot. Soul Rebel is correct that each state's Dem party knew they were violating the national party rules when they held primaries when they did, but apparently, they didn't care and did it anyway.

There's nothing unfair here, in that you --- or anybody else who supports Hillary, or doesn't --- is more than welcome to say your piece here. In fact, it's most welcome...

(P.S. I've been accused of being a Hillary supporter in many previous articles I've run, where folks felt I was unfair to Obama or his supporters. That's life. But I think our record of openness here speaks for itself, even as I mentioned the video in the original post above was completely unfair and inappropriate, but quite amusing nonetheless.)

And I might add that Obama did pretty well for not being able to in person campaign here when he was relatively unknown and Hilliary had good name recognition being that Half of the State of New York lives here

I am not a doctor, not a lawyer, not a pilot, not an MSM reporter, not an indian, and not a chief. Now that the irrelevant is out of the way ...

Like I have said for months, 2008 is an election of ideology, not of candidate merits ... typical of a rejection election.

To win a candidate needs to get out of the way of the anger of the voting public.

McFeign has failed. He can't seem to put two honest words together, and either can't remember the McCaCa moment that cost a much better recent and now past Virgina Senator his presnidential bid.

So McFeign perpetuates the McCaca moment as an election strategy? Dork-o-rama! In a fair election in November McFeign looses by 10 points (55-45) with this "strategy".

And as to openness, his wife power grab partner says no way in hell she will release her tax returns to the lowly voters.

So, more fascists on the Supreme Court who will turn the constitution into shit paper, 100 years of war, no info for the public, and more and more lies.

WTF???

Not only is this video not funny, it's not even mildly amusing. I found it utterly offensive and cannot imagine why you published it. Sick!

Would you find it amusing to pass on a video portraying Obama supporters/staff in blackface, with mistrels singing in the background?! I think not, nor would I.

Speaking of rarefied atmospheres, that movie ("Downfall") is stunning by the way.

It's worth remembering that in some parts of the world, they think these are the US elections, not just a party unable to choose a candidate.

Michael #19

Hold that thought for 30 days then come back and say it again.

It takes balls to do an election from start to finish ... because the stomach wrenching, mythology challenging, bubble popping, and reality checks come in the middle, not at the beginning or ending.

It's the Mc... that many can't handle ... the McTruth ...

See ya in 30 days ...

after reading through these comments, i thought i should pass this along. now, i know you are not huffpo fans here.....but - the main thread late this afternoon has been hijacked by hillary (read: republican trolls) supporters playing the "hillary is the victim" card to the meany obama supporters.

just sayin'......

Jen #21

You sedd:

you are not huffpo fans here

Okay ... so what is a huffpo fan? 220 volts ... 110 volts maybe ... or those damn european 2?? volt fans?

Reason I ask is, I like huffpo for many reasons, dailykos for many reasons, but they also really piss me off a lot (brad too sometimes cause all McFeign x's do) because they are sooooo like the good Germans who let Hitler stick his wooooohoooo up their ass.

Yep, those folks were pernographic!

Hitler is just one of the thousands of delusional self serving arseholes from history...just like bush or cheney...utterly offensive why? what the bush/cheney tag team is doing NOW is utterly offensive.

is america ready for a women president?
is america ready for a black president?

from here it looks like their both un-electable and thats the neocons plan to keep power in the hands of their repug lackies.
mick

i just find you all way too intelligent to go there, to be honest. it's why i have been here every day for almost a year, but have only posted three times.

Jen #24

I just watched the video for the first time ... I had not bothered to watch it before posting earlier.

I must say it is classic sarcasm, classic work for those dudes who thought of it ... even if they had cast me as Hitler ... congrats!!!

Anyway, we here at bradblog are not too intelligent, too good, nor too anything for that matter to go anywhere ... once we have been soaked in power, because Jen, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

You know what that means Jen? That this wonderful, kind, peaceful, loving, and caring person DREDD can become your worst nightmare ... given enough power over enough time ... (without the antidote ... bank on it).

I say that to honor our forefathers and foremothers ... genious people, good folk, who had been to hell and back.

I fully honor all of them. I have tested their hypothesis and theories and found them to be sound and solid.

Nice people in government will become like the Hitler figure at the end of the game. Hitler was just a freak headed for the guttes without the support of the nice people of germany.

George Bush, Dick Cheney, John McCain, and all neoTurds are NOTHING without the nice people of Amurka who support them and allow them to wallow in the mire for too long.

Until once again they have killed and maimed hundreds of thousands and bankrupted and hurt multitudes.

Fuck those kos, bradblog, huffpo, congressional, senatorial, and other nice Amurkan folk.

I am sticking with the Americans our forefathers and foremothers made an ideological home for.

Oh, pfeh, it's black humor... like the airplane flying into the house Garp ended up buying because he thought it couldn't happen again... like the fascism with papers blowing through tubes in "Brazil". It's funny. It's a good way to blow off steam. Personally, I'm so tired of being so appalled, it was almost what you'd call cathartic to watch this video.

Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Hillary!

Heh, there's only one cure for Fascism that I know of...lead poisoning

DREDD its the human condition ,you see it everywhere ,the workplace is the classic example .
The friendly co-worker who gets promoted only to become the next Hitler ,once given the extra power.Most people would have experienced this for themselves at one time or another.
mick

dredd, you misunderstand. the video made me laugh, for sure. my comment was spurred after reading the posts of poster sally. just seemed like the same thing was happening over there.

didn't mean to offend with the whole "intelligent" comment. lol you are a rad bunch, i've leard a lot and spread the bradblog link whenever possible.

i do have one question, though. from what i watched on tues/wed was hillary clinton winning the state of indiana by about 20,000 votes, and we waited and waited for lake county. then lake county comes in, and obama wins that county by just under 20,000 votes. so how does hillary end up winning the state by 20,000 votes? i'm thinking the only way my scenario is wrong is if she was leading by 40,000 before lake county, ...please help before my head explodes.

(okay, so i just checked youtube, and she was leading by 20,000 votes at 92% reporting, which means before lake county)

{{boom}}

ahem.....learned.

(back to lurking i go!!)

Nice one Floridiot. I have a postcard up in my classroom with a picture of a pencil on it. The script reads: This Machine Kills Fascists.

That video was in incredibly poor taste...

...but that didn't stop me from laughing my ass off the entire time.

Dredd #25 I find myself mentally seconding just about everything you write.

Mick #29

Amen brotha ...

I even struggle against myself ... because I always have some saturation in power ... you know ... I have the power to think what I want to ... and even that power can corrupt ...

So I think of the good cause, America, and therefore I resist Amurka ...

... because without the resistance we Americans will become Amukans ...

love and peace all ...

Well! That sure brought up a lot of phlegm this morning in this household of two "fucking retirees", albeit "fucking retirees for Obama". I haven't laughed so much in a long while, and IMHO it's probably not tooooooooooo much off the mark. I'd love to be a fly on the wall during Clinton's staff meetings these days.

BTW, that's one of my favorite German movie, and I recommend another favorite, The Lives of Others.

I am in the camp who says that has to be one of the stupidest videos ever produced.

The freepers {e.g. folks like Karl Rove, Netvocates, Advantage Consultants, the Bivings Group, Lincoln Group, Rendon, on and on} have manufactured this fake fight between Hillary and Obama, and folks are acting like it's been a spontaneous, political development.

DailyKos, Democratic Underground, and Huffington Post are fascist, shallow outlets. It can be shown that they are playing with the general population's head. To be honest, I am shocked that people concerned with the election integrity movement haven't been more vocal about what has taken place over the years at DU and DKos. Or maybe you have, but those are the posts that read message deleted, please reread the rules.

I'm just saying, if we pile on Hillary too much, then the shallow people will continue to think this is a bitterly divided country. It isn't. We Americans do the right thing when we are aware.

We're being played. Turning Hillary into Hitler or Obama into a terrorist feeds the astroturf.
The few who figure this out either get shouted down or outright banned. Not here of course, but at those big fake places. And for anyone who thinks I am spinning some kind of conspiracy yarn, I'm not. This just isn't the right venue to pile on with the million facts proving that the internet has become mostly controlled opposition, venting, and vapid digressions.

I don't think anyone here thinks Hillary equates to Hitler. But her demeanor in the last month or so sure shows signs of a megalomania that I don't think is appropriate for the White House or a country that I believe IS divided and does in fact need some healing. I also think that the chief source of that division is rooted in religion. Wish we could do something about that.

it was Godwin's Law from the get-go.

Socratess my dear friend,

Comedy does not turn anyone against anyone. When the big eared black thin dude did a parody on Obama I laughed my ass off like I did when the big eared savior whats his name with the charts and shit, who caved BTW, did his thingy.

Cause earry is funny. I can hannel it.

And I will vote for Obama for president. Because he looks the least like the fascists, mcFeigh looks exactly like them, and Hillary is the gas between the two.

Get the full lowdown....

Finally took time to watch the video.

It is hilarious. I had a good laugh. Thank you, Thank you. Sarcastic, dark humor is just what I needed.

OK, the rest is blah, blah, blah. Read at your own risk.

It takes a person like Hillary to run for Prez. The rest of us sit at home and bitch and moan. We don't make six or ten speeches a day, beg for money, and try to keep straight all the promises we made. And were we in her position, we would make promises. I promise that. I have done the math, and she can't win. Why won't she leave, 'Because the voters stole her nomination,' sort of, she has put her whole self into this run and it's so close but so far away.

I do have a dog in this race, two actually, both Obama and Hillary. I will vote for the Dem. period. At this point in time, I cannot vote Repub because they have caused all sorts of problems and chaos, they have become the party of demi-perverts and major hypocrites.

There is something desperately wrong in both parties, but when the only third party candidate is Nader (now there is a screaming hypocrite), and not really a 2008 repub, Ron Paul can't get anyone, in or out of the mainstream media to publish an article about him expect Prison Planet (which is a bad mark actually), so he's dead in the water. But who knows what will happen.

This time forty years ago RFK was still alive, he has about three weeks to live, and nobody believed that Humphrey would be nominated. By August, George Wallace, who could have been the spoiler for Nixon, was in the hospital with a severed spine from a failed assassination. Nixon was in McCain's position, and won on the first ballot with 692 votes; Nelson Rockefeller had 277 votes (today played by Romney), Ronald Reagan had 182 votes (not unlike Huckabee) and there were other scattered votes. George Romney had been drummed out of running long before because he was LDS.

I have not keep up with the Kill Hillary, McCain, Obama websites, but they are out there. I despise what they say and what they stand for, but I let them have their say as long as they do not incite someone to do that.

Hey, nothing personal to anyone who likes the video. Some people love olives, I can't stand them. I guess I am burnt out from the controlled venting. The last time I laughed at this sort of thing was when Will Ferrell used to impersonate the Shrub.

I just have a sinking feeling that Hillary versus Obama is just the political version of Brittney Spears coverage. Or it is like in sports playoffs, where one team hopes their rivals have a tough series perhaps making it easier to beat them later. So maybe the Repubs don't worry whether it is Obama or Hillary, but think it is in their interest for it to drag out. Plus, perhaps this ties in with some psy-op to explain things if McCain wins due to election fraud.

Yeehaw, fell asleep at 7 pm last night, now I am up at the crack of dawn.

May peace, love, and light shine on everyone.

A Hitler reference? HITLER? If Obama's supporters think they can win a general election without the votes of those who backed Clinton, then they don't know politics. If they think Hitler comparisons are the way to attract those Clinton voters to the Obama camp, then they don't know human nature.

Obama's supporters should remember episodes like this when Clinton backers like me, who are willing to back Obama if he's the nominee, decide instead to sit on our hands, write in Clinton, or vote for McCain.

Finally us little peeon voters get to say...

If you can't take a fuck... joke you,
and if you can't take a joke, fuck you!

What ever you've run up against in this life has something to teach you. Don't ever forget your entire lifetime is a learning process.

And oh yeah, much to the election process's utter (MOOOOO) disbelief, it ain't about winning. Its about learning as a race of humans being. I don't think the gop can dig themselves out of this one though!

Happy Mutter's Day!

It's made it onto YouTube. Look out!

"To me, there's no doubt, there's a movie to be made on this campaign, and made even objectively, Hillary would be the villain and Obama would be the hero."

That's a quote from an interview with Rod Lurie, director of The Contender and Commander in Chief, two of the most important films about women in presidential politics. The interview just went live at Film.com

http://www.film.com/dvds...ef-director-rod/20778341

Its along time gone but for the record any support I might have for Hillary is like this.
Which idiot is worse Clinton or McCain. I've read Obama is not winning swing states but Hillary is. He's winning red states that he won't get in November. The MSM and e-voting will most likely destroy either candidate. My objection to your posting the fun video is that had you posted something like this about Obmam their would be an uproar re racism but is OK to do this to a woman . Says it all about liberal who don't like hate. They don't mind it if the hate is directed at females. Yes I know 99 hates feminists as I read on her blog. There's too much hate in the world and I thought liberal activits were against it. Looks like I'm wrong.

Also looks like both Hillary and Obama don't want to really fix Florida/Michigen nor do they care about the people's right to representation. I guess if people really want democracy they will get it but if you say one group doesn't matter then you actually don't want democracy so you likely won't get it.

Just an add on here if anyone ever reads this far. I still support you all and am gratefull for the incredible work youv'e done. I know somewhere that perfection (my idea of it) is not really real life and not possible when much bigger things are at stake.
How you all deal with so much crap every day is beyond me. Another pitifull donation will be in the post soon. The MSM did a great job in pitting Obama and Clinton against each other aye. Lets not let them suceed in tearing the left and democracy apart. Everyones rights including womens depend on it.