boycott CrooksandLiars.com. they REFUSE to allow any discussion about 9/11. they ban people who dare to question the official story of 9/11. BOYCOTT C&L! BOMB THEM WITH COMPLAINTS!! DO YOUR PART!!! !!!

It looks like the MSM's are all trying to wrap it up in one little blurb, you know, nothing to see here, move along type stories, with no real comment from our side
and maybe it will go away
I wish Bobby jr would quick plug Palast's new book while hes on the air, like just hold up a copy of it or something

Brad,
I have looked, and maybe not well enough, but no where can I find a comprehensive list of lawsuits filed. With that, I can not find a comprehensive list of complaints filed either.

I will read a story of a lawsuit and/or complaint on a few Blogs, lord knows the MSM won't print one case. But what I'm after is a list.

A list will help elaborate to the dimwitted naysayers that this IS a problem of growing and gigantic proportions. Say, if it was just one county, then yea, no big worry. But if it is a hundred counties, then that is something different.

Oh My God...I can't believe my ears, Jack Cafferty on CNN is talking about Electronic voting machines and reading emails from angry viewers. The question of the day "do you trust electronic voting machines?" Everyone please flood Caferty with emails at Caffertyfile@cnn.com.

Ex-Clerk At Center Of Voting Machine Politics In Utah

Totally o/t but I just want to thank you for your tireless effort. Without election reform, no other reforms are possible. So sad that much of the progressive community still denies this.

I found an article that examines some of the aspects of the massive Pentagon war of deception upon the MSM, and the MSM's willingness to jump in bed (be embedded) in all aspects of the military propaganda campaign.

A very good article in Columbia Journalism Review concerning the efforts of the republican dictatorship to completely destabilize the press thru psy ops is linked here.

One interesting quote from the article is:

"When the United States launched Operation Iraqi Freedom in March 2003, Sam Gardiner, a sixty-four-year-old retired Air Force colonel, was a regular on The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer on PBS, where it was his job to place the day’s events in context. As the campaign wore on, and he monitored the press coverage and parsed the public statements of military and administration officials, he at first became uneasy, then deeply concerned."

The point of my post #7 is that disinformation is one of the most important products of the republican dictatorship, and it certainly includes massive disinformation about election issues, including voting machines.

#7 Dredd, I figured it wasn't our government operatives that were doing this by this quote “But I want you to know,” the spokesman added, “that it was civilians who did this.” and “the war was handled like a political campaign, in which the emphasis was not on the truth but on the message."
Can you say Rummy, Perle, Cheney, etc The Fuking PNAC crowd with big bidness (MSM in with the Military industrial Complex) as their cohorts

Damn good article, we might have some help from within the Military when the time comes to take back OUR Republic from these thieves. It seems they are damn good and tired of the bullshit too

I love this quote from Dredds link, its dedicaded to all the brain dead trolls lurking out there
"Nor, perhaps, did it ever intend to. “In my opinion, the global issue wasn’t the reason why they (the Office of Global Communications) were created,” he told me. “They clearly had a completely domestic focus. They were part of the effort to re-elect the president . . . . I’m going to be real pejorative here: Their goal was psychological operations on the American voting public. That was part of the political arm doing that."
Bush trolls=fools

And one more thing
The "fools quote goes to all the so called "Reagan Republicans" too (unless you make a mil or more per year ), thats how long this phoney Con Revolution has been going on
Its called the Guilded Age, revisited, dumb asses

done with rant

Floridiot #9

Some of the grey ops mission is to play good cop bad cop so that the military begins to look like the good cop.

Notice that many "allies", such as Musharraf in Pakistan, are military.

They can no longer be trusted. Any of them ... as long as they continue the war of disinformation against the American people.

The "disinformation" is a form of propaganda; and really, IMO, it says more about the "Republican revolution" than anything else.

Everything is disinformation. A group of powerful, wealthy corporatists, mainly the military-industrial complex, has been steaming for years because the Vietnam War and its consequent social effects showed to all the world the irrationality and brutality of the ruling powers in the U.S. Being corporatists, not contitutionalists, they went to work to market that irrationality and brutality as "Americanism" rather than as the antithesis of all that the nation should stand for. Rather than seeing the war as a hard lesson in the dangers of unaccountable concentrated power to a republic, they looked upon it as a sign of weakness. (This really gets into the fascist nature of corporatism.)

Hence, embedded journalists and pervasive psyops.

But it is more than that. We are faced with a irrational world view that raises fantasy to the perceived level of survival --- with tragic results.

Facts of life - global warming and other effects of fossil fuels, rights of the citizenry, assertion of individual and community dignity and self-reliance - are seen as enemies. It's a last ditch effort to force a hypocritical, irrational, false, desperate worldview to be true - truly a tragic and infantile state of being.

They can't possibly be successful, but they can damage the world irreversibly if not stopped.

Rather than seeing the war as a hard lesson in the dangers of unaccountable concentrated power to a republic, they looked upon it as a sign of weakness.

Of course, I mean the disposition and effects of the war - not the war itself which they looked upon as a demonstration of U.S. power.

Apparently (to get back on subject) honest elections are also the enemy.

Arry #15

Hence my post #8 ...

Arry #15

... and Floridiot's post #10 ...

Dredd and Floridiot - Yep. Just long-windedly agreeing with you.