READER COMMENTS ON
"Blackwell to Investigate Blackwell Election Says Blackwell"
(38 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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bluebear 2
said on 5/8/2006 @ 4:06 pm PT...
How silly!
"It's a silly request," said James Lee, a spokesman with the secretary of state's office.
Couldn't be a conflict there!
"The people of Ohio twice elected Ken Blackwell to serve as secretary of state. He will continue to serve."
Did they? Or was it Diebold?
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 5/8/2006 @ 4:20 pm PT...
Imagine if the Yankees were in the World Series, and George Steinbrenner insisted on being the home plate umpire.
Steinbrenner is from Ohio originally, so I guess it makes perfect sense.
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Shannon Williford
said on 5/8/2006 @ 4:22 pm PT...
Each election machine problem is NOT a "glitch," nor a "hiccup," but a "snafu!" This is the old WWII word for "Situation Normal - All F***ed Up."
shw
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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bluebear 2
said on 5/8/2006 @ 4:30 pm PT...
Give me an "S" "S"
Give me an "N" "N"
Give me an "A" "A"
Give me an "F" "F"
Give me an "U" "U"
What's tha spell? Snafu!
What's tha spell? Snafu!
What's tha spell? Snafu!
Will we ever see any results from the Ohio election? Results vs. Exit polls in the counties with machines vs. the hand count counties?
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Neal
said on 5/8/2006 @ 4:40 pm PT...
On a related note, as a hoosier, I can't help but be a bit suspicious of our Republican Secretary of State Todd Rokita and his "investigation" of ES&S. He has brought up the possibility of banning ES&S from doing business in Indiana - paving the way for "Diebolding" us, ala Blackwell's Ohio, or worse, ala Georgia and Maryland?
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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V. Kurt Bellman
said on 5/8/2006 @ 4:56 pm PT...
Bluebear2,
Quote:
"Will we ever see any results from the Ohio election? Results vs. Exit polls in the counties with machines vs. the hand count counties?"
Are there any hand counted Ohio counties? News stories I have read would indicate there are not.
By the way, AND THIS IS IN JEST, OKAY???
It's a good thing that Blackwell is a black Republican and doing all this stuff, because if he were a black Democrat, and Republicans were griping about him, SOME left-leaning groups would be insisting it's all racism.
Or am I being too senstive?
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 5/8/2006 @ 5:06 pm PT...
blackwell investigating elections in ohio is like. . . . . idi amin dada investigating cannibalism in uganda . . .
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 5/8/2006 @ 5:15 pm PT...
For Judge of Judges: It's a metaphor carnival. Everyone can write one.
"Blackwell investigating elections in Ohio is like Ken Lay advising people on their retirement plans."
"Blackwell investigating elections in Ohio is like Don King promising to clean up the fight game."
"Blackwell investigating elections in Ohio is like George W. Bush investigating leaks inside his administration."
Oops, now I've gone too far.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 5/8/2006 @ 5:15 pm PT...
P.S. While chomping on someones FEMA . . .
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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m3
said on 5/8/2006 @ 5:20 pm PT...
I guess James Lee thinks electoral problems should be investigated by a former Diebold shareholder!!!
I guess James Lee is full of shit.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 5/8/2006 @ 5:25 pm PT...
... or like Goering investigating Hitler improprieties?
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 5/8/2006 @ 5:39 pm PT...
carnal metaphors
blackwell investigating elections in ohio is like. . . . . John Holmes investigating the porn industry . . .
blackwell investigating elections in ohio is like. . . . . Joseph Goebbels investigating child abuse . . .
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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Retired in Ohio
said on 5/8/2006 @ 5:57 pm PT...
If Ken Blackwell had any personal ethics and really cared about the state of Ohio, he would immediately recuse himself from any control over the running of the 2006 election in Ohio. He'd call a news conference and resign as secretary of state and allow a Democrat to take the office. That would really be an impressive move. Don't hold your breath!
Ohio needs a law which allows both major parties and any third party with a candidate for office to designate 10 precincts in a large county and five in a smaller one to be hand counted for three offices each. The precincts would be announced at 7:30 p.m. when the polls close. That way there could be no way to rig the election. The choice of offices to be recounted could vary from precinct to precinct. The hand counting would be public with media and representatives of the parties allowed to watch. Each ballot would be looked at by both major parties and the third party. This might take a day, but we'd be sure we had an honest count. All Ohioans who believe in democracy should support this requirement.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 5/8/2006 @ 6:00 pm PT...
If his investigation leads to his conviction, then maybe he will investigate that "other" election he got involved with back in 2004. An independent hearing of the facts presented in a court of law investigating the criminal use of his position as Secretary of State to manipulate and obstruct with the Presidential election and recount WILL lead to an unanimous judgement for HIS imprisonment. bastard full of bushit
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 5/8/2006 @ 6:14 pm PT...
Just like it was up to the Iraqi's to fight for their own freedom, it's up to Ohio citizens to start uprising and doing something themselves about the Ohio cesspool of GOP politics.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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The Old Turk
said on 5/8/2006 @ 6:29 pm PT...
Blackwell,.... investigating Ohio
election improprieties,....
Is like bu$$$h,... yelling at his daughters Bar and
Jen to use a Kleenex tissue,....
Click link : OMG what an uncouth pig !
(i just got back home,.. wanted to contribute too)
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 5/8/2006 @ 6:43 pm PT...
# 16 Gross - and I look my eye off Paris Hilton & Nicole (simple life) to see That ! ! !
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Bluebear2
said on 5/8/2006 @ 9:31 pm PT...
V. Kurt Bellman #6
The article linked in Brad's report mentions that 17,000 absentee ballots in Cuyahoga County had to be hand counted. It was those which I refered to.
You said:"SOME left-leaning groups would be insisting it's all racism." "Or am I being too senstive?"
I think most around here are above that, but in the rest of the world I think that card could play both ways.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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oldtree
said on 5/8/2006 @ 9:37 pm PT...
wonder what this person is being paid to do really? how much is known about this person? his behavior is criminal when applied to the public good it seems, but of course that is opinion.
is he really above the law as he is saying?
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 5/8/2006 @ 10:14 pm PT...
blackwell investigating elections in ohio is like. . . . . Baby Doc investigating Papa Doc in Haiti . . .
"Murdoch to host fundraiser for Hillary Clinton"
WHAT THE FUCK ? ? ?
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Bj
said on 5/8/2006 @ 10:42 pm PT...
I'm orig from Cincy, though i've been gone several yrs.. I remember when Blackwell first came onto the scene.. there was always an aire about him that didn't feel right..
Now reading all this crap about Ohio and his part in the republican bullshit.. it makes me sick..
I think unfortunately it's going to take a long time, if at all , before people wake up and start reading the real news and find out about the voter scams going on...
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 5/8/2006 @ 10:52 pm PT...
Kurt Bellman #6
If Blackwell were a Democrat, he would have been "Strange Fruit" by now!
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 5/9/2006 @ 2:25 am PT...
Blackwell's remarks about his Christian upbringing are quite revealing. He talked about how his Christian parents taught him what was right (as if Jewish parents teach kids what's wrong).
Rural Ohio voters are drawn to this kind of talk. They gather in fundamentalist churches and listen to ministers who tell them that liberals are evil. No kidding. While all the turmoil was going on in Ohio after the 2004 election, Blackwell was actually going around giving talks on the subject of ethics, as part of his early gubernatorial fundraising.
It's easy to say, "What a hypocrate!" But in reality, Blackwell probably believes his own bullshit. He doesn't see himself as a sleazebag, because devout Christians can't be sleazebags in his mind.
Medieval English monarchs thought they had been ordained by God, and ruled under the rubric "divine right of kings." Same deal, basically.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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SL Aronovitz
said on 5/9/2006 @ 3:34 am PT...
Mr. Blackwell talks a lot about his faith. Me thinks he doth protest too much. A man that arrogant has got to have mistresses and/or illegitimate children out there. I suggest his movements be carefully monitored and any public/court records be reviewed. Mr. Blackwell also appears to be a control freak, which means that domestic violence, workplace harassment, and substance abuse (as an escape) are likely to be found.
Religion provides the perfect sanctuary for the wicked among us.
Pride goeth before a fall, Mr. Blackwell.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 5/9/2006 @ 3:34 am PT...
BTW, it's my understanding that Blackwell *used* to be a Democrat. Until he became a moderate Republican. Until he became and extremist evangelical Republican.
I guess he was always an opportunist from the get-go.
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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John Dowd
said on 5/9/2006 @ 6:00 am PT...
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 5/9/2006 @ 6:29 am PT...
Blackwell reminds me a bit of Alan Keyes, though not as smart or articulate. They're both black evangelical Christians who see politics as an extension of morality, and morality in turn as an extension of Christianity.
It's possible to delude oneself. Bush seems to have anointed himself with Christian blessings on everything he does. And there's really no way to argue with a true believer, because he'll see your arguments as un-Christian no matter how sound they are. "Secular" and "secular humanist" are code words for "un-Christian."
Blackwell is cut from the same cloth as Bush. Nothing he does can be corrupt, because it's all based on what his wonderful Christian parents taught him. If this guy become governor of Ohio, it will truly be a calamity.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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Noesis
said on 5/9/2006 @ 6:53 am PT...
Off subject but did you see what Richard Cohen wrote!
...The e-mails pulse in my queue, emanating raw hatred. This spells trouble --- not for Bush or, in 2008, the next GOP presidential candidate, but for Democrats. The anger festering on the Democratic left will be taken out on the Democratic middle. (Watch out, Hillary!) I have seen this anger before --- back in the Vietnam War era. That's when the antiwar wing of the Democratic Party helped elect Richard Nixon. In this way, they managed to prolong the very war they so hated.
The hatred is back. I know it's only words now appearing on my computer screen, but the words are so angry, so roiled with rage, that they are the functional equivalent of rocks once so furiously hurled during antiwar demonstrations. I can appreciate some of it. Institution after institution failed America --- the presidency, Congress and the press. They all endorsed a war to rid Iraq of what it did not have. Now, though, that gullibility is being matched by war critics who are so hyped on their own sanctimony that they will obliterate distinctions, punishing their friends for apostasy and, by so doing, aiding their enemies. If that's going to be the case, then Iraq is a war its critics will lose twice --- once because they couldn't stop it and once more at the polls.
http://www.washingtonpos.../08/AR2006050801323.html
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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mr.ed
said on 5/9/2006 @ 7:33 am PT...
The 17k unreadable ballots were printed by a lower bidding local east side suburban co. with two weeks deadline instead of the usual, higher priced Dayton house. There are hundreds of different ballots in Cuyahoga county because of overlapping school and legislative districts. Example: former Cleveland mayor Campbell lives in the Shaker Heights school district and votes across the street at a church in Shaker. Screwups are to be expected. The county counts more votes than four states. The board of elections is bipartisan. So far, no charges have been made that the counts were wrong- only late.
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 5/9/2006 @ 8:08 am PT...
Earth to Richard Cohen: If Republicans can rig elections and get away with it, what do the polls matter, anyway?
You write as if you think you're a smart guy, Cohen. And you might be. But people at corporate media sites (like WaPo) have been in denial about election fraud all along. Obviously, you honestly think the game is honest, and it's a question of whether Democrats can control their left wing.
No. It's about whether everyone can control election fraud. Gore and Kerry both won, yet Bush was inaugurated twice. And that's the truth, Cohen.
Sorry if I sound like a left-wing kook.
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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Joan
said on 5/9/2006 @ 1:47 pm PT...
#16
Dang, what a statesman.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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Joan
said on 5/9/2006 @ 2:04 pm PT...
No, you quite obviously sound like anything but a left-wing kook. Oh...you were probably being sarcastic. My dimness is showing.
I'm very leery of these "thousands" of emails Cohen claims to have gotten.
Sounds like baiting to me.
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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bluebear 2
said on 5/9/2006 @ 3:42 pm PT...
Joan said
"Sounds like baiting to me."
What? Is Bushy going fishing again?
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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Joan
said on 5/9/2006 @ 4:18 pm PT...
Yeah, gonna catch another 7-lb perch, woohoo!
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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Joan
said on 5/9/2006 @ 5:28 pm PT...
Re Richard Cohen, Will Pitt has an excellent open letter to him on truthout:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/050906R.shtml
I gotta get Pitt's email & write to THANK HIM for knowing where the outrage is! MADDENING that people keep asking Where is the outrage...they must be in their houses with the doors locked!!!
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 5/10/2006 @ 4:46 am PT...
Joan #35
There are two questions:
1) where is the outrage shown in the MSM?
(answer: as close to nowhere as possible)
2) where is the outrage?
(answer: just about everywhere)
The dorks can't figure out why we would be outraged that Bush country is now the Soviet Union in spirit.
The Bush US tortures, propagandizes, invades, occupies, spies on US citizens, corrupts all it touches, lets American cities drown in FEMA carelessness, creates new lows in the polls, yes, and all this while Cohen fondles his worries.
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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bluebear 2
said on 5/10/2006 @ 11:51 am PT...
Dredd said:
"...fondles his worries."
Kinda reminds me of Captain Queeg in The Caine Mutiny.
Got his hand in his pocket I guess!
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 5/10/2006 @ 12:38 pm PT...
Different Strokes for different Scrotes. . .