READER COMMENTS ON
"Garrison Keillor Calls for Bush Impeachment"
(37 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Tom Scharff
said on 2/28/2006 @ 10:34 pm PT...
Good to see that your thinking cap is still working properly!! Long time no talk, eh Brad?
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EconAtheist
said on 2/28/2006 @ 11:45 pm PT...
Gotta take those November elections, peeps... gotta keep up the pressure and take those November elections...
BTW - I hope everyone is at least eyeballing the TX-28th... Ciro Rodriguez (D) v. Henry Cuellar (D)OUCHEBAG)) primary - a Ciro win should give DINOs some incentive to quit farting around... incessantly providing cover for (R)s should equal *no nomination for you, beeyatch.*
*COUGH*lieberman*COUGH*
Election is Tuesday the 7th; just 6 more days...
Help out Ciro, any way you can, be it a small contribution or a little help on the phone bank!
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Floridiot
said on 3/1/2006 @ 3:01 am PT...
Most everyone who reads Keillor's weekly column in the paper already knows what he wants
He gets his little digs in every week
It's creative the way he does it, too
Most Bush boot lickers wouldn't get it, though
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Floridiot
said on 3/1/2006 @ 3:10 am PT...
Hey Brad, good show last night BTW
What did Ion Sancho say about Floridas Absentee Ballot procedure?
My attention was diverted and I missed that part, I only caught the very end
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 3/1/2006 @ 4:55 am PT...
One more thing, here's how these phoney free trade Stalinists (fascists) operate
Taking old peoples cheap drugs away from them
Here
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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impeach conyers
said on 3/1/2006 @ 5:41 am PT...
http://www.thehill.com/t...ntpage/030106/news2.html
March 1, 2006
Former Conyers aides press ethics complaints
By Jonathan E. Kaplan
Two former aides to Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) have alleged that he repeatedly violated House ethics rules.
Deanna Maher, a former deputy chief of staff in Conyers’s Detroit office, and Sydney Rooks, a former legal counsel in the district office, provided evidence for the allegations by sharing numerous letters, memorandums and copies of e-mails, handwritten notes and expense reports with The Hill.
In letters sent separately by each woman to the House ethics committee, the FBI and the U.S. attorney’s office, they allege that Conyers demanded that aides work on several local and state campaigns and forced them to baby-sit and chauffeur his children. They also charge that some aides illegally used Conyers’s congressional offices to enrich themselves.
Maher decided she could no longer work for Conyers in such an unethical environment and quit in May 2005. Rooks had left Conyers years earlier; she was a full-time staffer working in the office for him from 1997 to 1999. Before leaving, Conyers placed her on paid administrative leave for several months and stopped paying her in April 2000.
“I could not tolerate any longer being involved with continual unethical, if not criminal, practices which were accepted as ‘business as usual,’” Maher wrote in a letter to the ethics panel dated Jan. 13, 2006.
A spokesman in Conyers’s office referred questions to Stanley Brand, an attorney who regularly defends public officials charged with wrongdoing.
Brand said, “We’ve responded fully and completely over two years ago to what the ethics committee sent to us, and we’ve not heard anything since then.”
In her Jan. 13 letter, Maher recapped a previous allegation she had made that DeWayne Boyd, a former top aide to Conyers, used Conyers’s congressional office to obtain a fake passport after being convicted of fraud, making false statements and government theft in 2004. Sentenced in 2005 to 30 to 46 months in prison, Boyd fled to Ghana before being recaptured and extradited to the United States.
The crux of the allegations involves complaints that Conyers used his staff to work on several local and state campaigns including his wife’s failed bid for a seat in the state Senate. In 2003, the Detroit Free Press reported about the allegations that Conyers repeatedly violated House rules by forcing staffers to work on campaigns without taking leave.
Among Maher’s allegations:
• In 2002, Conyers’s aides in D.C. were sent to Detroit to help his wife, Monica, win a state Senate seat. While she lost that election, she won a seat last year on the Detroit City Council.
• On June 2, 2003, Conyers forced Maher to spend a day campaigning for Keith Williams, who won a seat on the Wayne County Commission. She became fed up and drove off after going door to door to distribute campaign literature for a few blocks.
• Carol Patton, a legislative counsel on Conyers’s personal staff, was hired in 2003 to help Williams and to help JoAnn Watson in her bid for Detroit City Council. Patton still works for Conyers and earns more than $44,000 per year, according to the 2005 House statement of disbursements.
• In a Dec. 22, 2004, letter, Maher said Conyers staffer Melody Light “conducts her law practice (charging legal fees) out of the congressional office. … She has in effect hung out her shingle on [Conyers’s] office door.”
Maher and Rooks said that Conyers tasked staffers in his district office with taking care of his two young boys, John and Carl.
“If he asked you to do something, you knew you had to do it,” said Rooks, 54, who administers a homeless shelter in Detroit.
She told The Hill that she tutored “Little John,” as Conyers’s elder son is known, when he was a student at the Cranbrook School, a private school in Bloomfield Hills. The tutoring took place during normal working hours, and she was not given additional compensation for the work, nor was she reimbursed for out-of-pocket expenses.
Rooks said when the son received low grades, Conyers told her, “‘Well, Rooks, you can add tutoring to your list of stuff to do.’”
She added that a staffer would pick the son up from school, take him to the office, fix him a snack and help him with his homework.
Maher provided a copy of an e-mail from Jan. 13, 2004, written by Dean Christian Thornton, a former staff assistant, who complained that he had not been reimbursed for the cost of gasoline when Conyers “wanted me to use my truck to shuttle him and his kids around and not use his car.”
A former staffer who has worked for two House Democrats said, “This type of behavior is so prevalent, the unofficial duties that members require you to do off-the-record. Most staffers are subjected to this unfair treatment. It’s the great untold story on Capitol Hill.”
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Floridiot
said on 3/1/2006 @ 5:55 am PT...
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Floridiot
said on 3/1/2006 @ 6:11 am PT...
Of course their going to attack Conyers with some little bullshit story like that, he's being a thorn in their side
Can't you see that?
Attack the messinger, thats all that is
Only a paid shill would throw that long ball out there
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Ricky
said on 3/1/2006 @ 6:22 am PT...
They dont care about corruption here, they only care about being anti-Bush. Its the only common thread in there opinions. Why do you think they want to hire terrorists lawyers with tax payer money? Because they are anti-Bush.
Do you know that the ACLU has opposed every single anti-Terror measure the US has taken?
Do you know that the people here support the ACLU? Who does that help? America or the terrorists?
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NeilDeal
said on 3/1/2006 @ 6:29 am PT...
........And then one time, he asked me to pick up his dry cleaning. I immediatly went to the FBI to report him. GASP!!!!!
Whatever. Get a life.
Yea good old Garrison. I don't think that most Repubs have the reading ability to comprehend his writing.
He seems to be really fired up. He usually doesn't write about this stuff. (I think)
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 3/1/2006 @ 6:30 am PT...
Tht case is so fucking weak
As long as Conyers still works for the people, and not some Corporation, I don't care if he takes a shit on my doorstep, I can always shovel it off
How come (Ricky) you magically appear after something
like this shows up, Hmmm?
Your a paid shill, Brad stick it to him
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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bvac
said on 3/1/2006 @ 7:00 am PT...
TutorGate = impeach conyers
PlameGate = fair game
uh huh.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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Mimi
said on 3/1/2006 @ 7:15 am PT...
Whhop-de-doo. Whatever the charges against John Conyers, they pale in comparison to the Halliburton/KBR plundering of taxpayer dollars in Iraq; the disapearrance of 9 billion dollars in Iraq; the loss of life, property and dignity post Katrina, the unimaginable pain and suffering of Iraq vets, and their families, extracted to support "a pack of lies"; the enron scandal that robbed retirees of their savings, held the State of California hostage for billions more, ruining the reputation and sanctity of our democratic process by hijaking voting machines, making us taxpayers cough up $100,000 per minute to pay for the stupid, terrorist-propagating war in Iraq. Um I'm not devoting ALOT of thought to the sins of the Bushies, but I just can't get excited about some rumor about John Conyers. Anyway, consider the source.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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Charlene
said on 3/1/2006 @ 8:07 am PT...
In response to comment #7, & to the Dink that wrote er..I mean copied it:
If there were justice in the world, there would be a waiting list of those trying to get lucky enough to land a position as Conyer's assistant--to get the chance to--in ANY way--help the only man in our government that is trying to save our nation from fascism & save Democracy against all odds.
Conyers is a freakin SUPERHERO in my book.
These "former" assistants who are just now crawling out of the woodwork to slam a great man are obviously disgruntled losers.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Savantster
said on 3/1/2006 @ 8:15 am PT...
"A former staffer who has worked for two House Democrats said, “This type of behavior is so prevalent, the unofficial duties that members require you to do off-the-record. Most staffers are subjected to this unfair treatment. It’s the great untold story on Capitol Hill.” "
Hmm.. so it's common practice for VERY busy people in Washington to have their PAID HELP .. uh.. HELP THEM get things done? The only 2 things I saw in there that made sense (in a "don't do that" kind of way) were the chick practicing law from his office (probably shown to be a lie 2 years ago when this came out.. or was deemed not that big of a deal).. and not compensating people for out of pocket expenses (gas, and tutor expenses.. though, I can't fathom what expenses you'd have as a tutor in that setting).
It's amazing.. Conyers, the guy who's shoving all the crimes of this Administration in their faces "should be impeached" for "doing business as usual in Washington", but Shrubby should get a pass on the MIRIAD of crimes he's involved in (well, and his buddies in the oil industry, and Halliburton, et. al)..
The twisted deluded logic of right-wingers will never cease to amaze me. Truely off your nut..
Yes, Ricky, WE do care about corruption here. We would like to see Conyers censured if he did something "unethical".. yet you stupid fucks seem to think it's more important to scream about a blow job and having a staffer pick up kids than to watch your own guys and their money laundering and racketeering and war profiteering.. And use such an extreme measure as "impeach" for asking someone to help tutor your kids?? And give a pass on killing over 1300 troops, over 100,000 Iraqis, starting civil war for profit (since all other 'reasons' have been PROVED to be lies already).. Amazing.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Roger Drowne EC
said on 3/1/2006 @ 8:53 am PT...
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COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 3/1/2006 @ 9:00 am PT...
Anti-Bush and anti-corruption are one and the same thing.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Miro
said on 3/1/2006 @ 9:12 am PT...
Top 10 Reasons the Republican-run House hasn't impeached Bush yet...
10. Karl Rove won't let them
9. They're afraid Mad Dick Cheney will adjourn the Senate for 10 minutes so he can run down the hall and do some quail hunting
8. They haven't built up enough Abramhoff loot to retire to Dubai yet.
7. They're afraid if they impeach, they won't be hired for a kooshy K street lobbyist position when they get voted out in Novemeber 06
6. [more????]
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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NeilDeal
said on 3/1/2006 @ 9:28 am PT...
Ricky
How about we label you a TERRORIST, drag you from your home, hold you in detention for 3 years and deny YOU a lawyer.
In your frame of mind, that is acceptable. Think your BUSHco/Cheney bumper sticker will save you?
Just grab any old person off the street, regardless of laws or the Geneva convention.
Why is the government afraid to allow due process for Americans and foreigners? Because they got nothing?
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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maxie+
said on 3/1/2006 @ 9:42 am PT...
I knew it would be just a matter of time before someone went after Conyers,he is becoming too good at what he does,he stays in a fight,he won't let this deter him,we just have to keep backing him.
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Bob Bilse
said on 3/1/2006 @ 11:12 am PT...
We care very much about corruption here at this site. This "caring" is why it exists.
We also care deeply about, and are greatly annoyed by, the constant over-use of the darvo tactic to respond to the widespread corruption that is the "Neocon Movement".
If someone accuses you of a crime that you're innocent of, you do all you can to prove their accusation is inaccurrate.
Why is this not what these apologists that appear here are doing? Because they can't. The corruption is real, and can't be excused away, or effectively debated for.
All that's left is to attempt to bring down the messenger, or point the finger at the accuser, to attempt to deflect, or cloud, the point.
This administration is mortally corrupt (with an incompetent fronting it).
Attacking those who are working on exposing it is a feeble debate tactic, and doesn't address the point at all.
Conyers may not be a saint. Few in the congress/senate ever have been... but, compared to the corruption he (& Brad, Bev Harris, Greg Palast, Clint Curtis, et al) is fighting to espose, his "corruption" just about amounts to not returning a library book.
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COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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gtash
said on 3/1/2006 @ 12:46 pm PT...
Now if he would only say this on Prairie Home Companion.....naaaaah.
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thinkin
said on 3/1/2006 @ 12:46 pm PT...
GK finally said it out loud. Good: was tired of hearing him bite his tongue twice a week.
Que viva Garrison!
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Masher1
said on 3/1/2006 @ 1:03 pm PT...
Depleted Uranium
this is the only crime you need to jail BUSH
Forget this impeach B.S.
JAIL Dick and Duyba for using Depleted Uranium as tools of death and war. This DU stuff KILLS for 4.5 Billion years.
Just one A-10 Gau-8 cannon round can kill for that long.
thats 4,500,000,000. years!
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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Masher1
said on 3/1/2006 @ 1:28 pm PT...
Oh an another note 'The course of political life is not going to be allowed to remain on a normal footing.' So all those that think november is when things will come to heal. Well thats not going to happen. Something is going to happen to either MOOT or CANCEL nov elections. The world as we know it is a plaything for israel to PROFIT from. Wake up USA i am starting to think you are all Drugged or somthing.
the MESS you are presently in is FAR TOO IMPORTANT! to be ignorant and brainwashed about.
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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roz
said on 3/1/2006 @ 2:48 pm PT...
Atta boy, Garrison! 'Tis "time", indeed before the country slips over the abyss into the darkness which shrouds Dubya and has enveloped every business deal he has ever touched in the past. Now he's doing it to our great country. The newly released poll numbers(just over 30%) indicate that a very small percentage of people still in "denial" (and not a river in Egypt!) are hoping against hope that they were not responsible for this daily-evolving debacle of ours by voting him in....or did they? I've been following the developments of the successful Diebold hack into voting machines in Leon County www.blackboxvoting.com and from all present evidence, no election in the future will be safe from hacking - all opti scan Diebold machines are hackable, have probably been hacked, and will be hacked unless We the People do something about it. The Neo-Con-Artists have really pulled one over on this country and continue to do so and will unless we exercise our Constitutional rights and impeach them out of an office they obviously stole in 2000 and 2004 as well. Impeachment is the only way to rid this country of this level of horrendous corruption since voting in November and the next election will not matter using our present voting machines & system of voting. P.S. Recently there were 100,000 voting irregularities discovered on Diebold machine in Palm Beach, Fl! Time to get on this before it's too late. Everyone needs to vote by absentee ballot and investigate how their absentees are counted - if they are scanned on opti-scan machines, even absentee ballots are not safe.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 3/1/2006 @ 2:49 pm PT...
Besides impeachment, I would also be for all of our wonderful politicians sending their own family and friends over to fight in the Iraq War, since there is a crisis shortage on military recruitment. How many politician's family members are over there fighting, one? Or did it break into double-digits yet?
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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A Concerned Citizen
said on 3/1/2006 @ 3:50 pm PT...
They're trying to put up so many damn smokescreens around Washington it's not funny. Those two women are among the many new employees added to the corruption payroll. I'm pretty sure the payroll has grown this past year. Wonder how long those billions missing from Iraq will last.
I will wait to hear John Conyers' response to this before I form my opinion. I don't know who to believe anymore.
I agree with Floridiot and others though, no matter what the story here is - it isn't anything compared to the TRUE crimes committed against THIS PLANET by asswipe & co. MSN and Washington are corporate jokes. I'm not laughing anymore.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Nathan D.
said on 3/3/2006 @ 8:06 am PT...
Wow. Ignorance knows no bounds.
Did you all ride the short bus to school? (do you still?)
How about formulating an ORIGINAL thought backed by ACTUAL FACT...Not conjecture, speculation, or a regurgation of something you heard on some other hacks website/blog.
I say this thinking that you're all capable of doing this. Some of you probably are, so there might be hope for a few of you.
It would be different if most of you had actually been somewhere, DONE something in life, other than attend college (that's debatable but I am assuming it has to have happened for some of you). Its easy to become disillusioned by liberal rhetoric when you have nothing real to base it against.
I'll stop there...discuss.
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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annrice
said on 3/3/2006 @ 11:39 am PT...
You should have stopped after "Wow"!...Or at least said something that could be discussed. The ad hominum nature of your post renders it useless.
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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Nathan D.
said on 3/3/2006 @ 12:39 pm PT...
I thought this might happen. My point was missed somewhere, probably cleverly hidden IN THE TEXT.
Let me see if I can help. Maybe the following piece of info will help you look at my statement a bit differently.
First, a little background. A fallacy is a type of argument that is psychologically persuasive but completely invalid.
Among the many different types of logical fallacies is "Ad Hominum".
Ad Hominum means "Attacking the arguer rather than his/her argument." (I'm sure we can agree on that.) Saying something negative about someone is not automatically Ad Hominum. If a person (politician for example) is the issue, then it is not a fallacy. Example: John's objections to capital punishment carry no weight since he is a convicted felon.
Now armed with this information, perhaps a re-read of my post will give you a better idea of what it was I actually saying. (I'll simplify it later if necessary.)
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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disgusted
said on 3/4/2006 @ 8:31 am PT...
you guys all talk like you did when you were the last guys picked in kickball.......losers
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thinkin
said on 3/4/2006 @ 5:50 pm PT...
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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molly
said on 3/6/2006 @ 9:48 am PT...
Remember when we got the all republican house in '94 because of the terrible corruption of the democrats. The post office covered some bad checks gave out free stamps..something like that. We have a stacked deck with the media being bought and paid for by big corporations. Our only recourse is to boycott starting with taxes. No taxation without representation. The republicans aren't just going by the books with majority rule they are cutting dems out of the legislative process. There are a lot of things going on which are illegal with nobody to stop them. Bush pushed and pushed after 9/11 to cut out overtime for first responders, nurses firemen and policemen. It couldn't be done legally so the sec. of labor just made it a law. I don't think they have had the nerve to try and implement it yet. Heard the same thing has happened with social security.....slipped it into a big bill. Conflict of interest with the overtime thing. Frist owning hospitals. That would save them a ton of money, nurses are making pretty decent salaries now.
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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MARY
said on 3/25/2006 @ 8:41 pm PT...
impeach Bush??? This would be the morally correct thing to do, but with the Republicans owning both the House and Senate, it's just a pipe dream. Lies are lies. Spin it however you want it- Bush still lied about WMD, and continues to lie about the war in Iraq, and almost everything else. He makes Nixon look like Polyanna. Agnew never SHOT a man for God's sake.What is wrong with these Democrats that will not stand up and say that Bush is acting decidedly UNchristian like and immoral?? Leads me to think that the Democrats are no better.
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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Jennifer Hershey
said on 4/17/2006 @ 8:04 pm PT...
'The course of political life is not going to be allowed to remain on a normal footing.'
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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aparaty cyfrowe
said on 5/2/2006 @ 6:28 am PT...
I also oneself something would want to find out on this theme. Very attentively I will read every post.