READER COMMENTS ON
"NC Republican U.S. House Candidate Describes State's New Polling Place Photo ID Law as 'Turd'"
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 8/27/2013 @ 8:33 pm PT...
Hello Brad Friedman,
Wow! Two Republican elected/running for office from the total Republican officials are speaking out. Percentage wise you stand a better chance of being hit by a meteorite then finding more Republicans willing to speak out against the new jim crow laws.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 8/28/2013 @ 12:31 am PT...
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 8/28/2013 @ 10:08 am PT...
Do me a favor and consider this statement from Sensebrenner from just last week on the Texas Photo Voter ID.
"I regret that the Department of Justice announced its intent to file a lawsuit against Texas’ Voter ID law citing Section 2 to the Voting Rights Act. The Texas legislature passed Voter ID, and Governor Perry signed this legislation into law in 2011. Voter ID laws are an essential element in protecting the integrity of our electoral process and do not have a discriminatory intent or effect." (But he's a Voting Rights champion, just ask him. This line of crap has been peddled since at least 2009 by Diana Marrero of the GOP's Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel)
Why are you and other excellent writers so invested in portraying Sensenbrenner as a voting rights advocate?
In the face of Sensenbrenner's refusal to support the mega Voting Rights Act --- the Mark Pocan-Keith Ellison proposed Right-to-Vote constitutional amendment no less?
I just don't get it, man.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 8/28/2013 @ 11:09 am PT...
Some of the unfathomable dynamics lie in deeper, darker waters.
So, we tend to have trouble with them:
That's right. Whatever you do, don't try to dismantle common myths about such and such with a rational argument. It's worse than ineffective. It's shooting yourself in the foot because in stating their frame, you reinforce it.
(Dr. George Lakoff). Word magic anyone?
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 8/28/2013 @ 3:06 pm PT...
Dredd, Re comment 4; this is not a matter of framing.
This is simply the fact that repulsive human garbage is posing as a voting rights champion and too many are playing along. Need I remind you of the people that gave their very lives in this struggle?
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 8/28/2013 @ 3:56 pm PT...
Obviously you haven't read Dr. Lakoff. All cognition is framing.
Political, propaganda "framing" is manipulation.
Psychological framing is another thing altogether, but it is always real:
Let's begin with reason and how it works. Going back to the 1600s with Descartes, Enlightenment thinking assumes that reason is conscious, logical and rational. This is outmoded. We've since learned that reason is actually 98% unconscious. So, frames are the unconscious neural circuits that define how we think and talk. They are conceptual structures made up of metaphors, narratives and emotions, and they are physically part of the brain. We cannot avoid framing. The only question is whose frames are being activated in the brains of the public.
(Link in my comment up-thread). Get up to speed.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 8/28/2013 @ 10:32 pm PT...
Mal @ 3 -
Your point is well taken. Sensenbrenner, as he has been on so many other things (as I noted quite clearly in my original article thanking him for his support of restoring the VRA) is absolutely wrong about the legalities of Photo ID. I hope we'll have an article here soon pointing out just how wrong he is.
That said, I don't believe I've ever described him as a "voting rights advocate". I lauded him as a great support of the Voting Rights Act, which he, indeed is. Aside from my original article, linked above, he further went on to say at this week's RNC commemoration of the 50th Anniversary of the "March on Washington":
I am committed to restoring the Voting Rights Act as an effective tool to prevent discrimination. More Subtle discrimination now than overt discrimination. My job is to fix the Voting Rights Act. Now the first thing we have to do is take the monkey wrench that the Court threw into it out of the Voting Rights Act. And then use that monkey wrench to be able to fix it, so that it is alive, well, constitutional, and impervious to another challenge that will be filed by the usual suspects. I’m with you on this. [applause]…[video cut]… This is something that has to be done by the end of the year so that a revised, constitutional Voting Rights Act is in place before the 2014 election season, both primaries and general elections.
If the VRA is to ever be restored --- and it must be --- it will take Congress to do it. And, to do that, at least some Republicans will have to be on board. Given Sensenbrenner oversaw the 2006 25-year re-authorization (with a Republican House, nonetheless!), and given he still has the courage to speak out on this, and call for his fellow "usual suspects" to do the right thing, I am happy to laud those efforts.
Hope that answers your concern and, yes, your valid point!
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 8/31/2013 @ 7:06 am PT...
A new report confirms Sensenbrenner declined the invitation to speak at the MLK event marking the 50th anniversary, like every other GOP politico.
Yes, he spoke the words cited at the GOP event.
In 2005-06, he followed the Democrats and allowed the VRA to become law, at no political risk. It passed 98-0 in the Senate and 390-33 in the House. Gary May's new book also places Sensenbrenner on the right side of the issue, along with 389 of his House colleagues in 2005-06.
So what's the point today of lip service?
Even Reince Priebus has mouthed the words; and both remain hostile to the Voting Rights Constitutional Amendment and both support state photo voter ID with obstruction as the objective.
While 'Dredd' may deny the relevancy of facts and evidence to a rational conclusion, the facts remain that Sensenbrenner and the GOP remain hostile to the wrong people voting.
As for the VRA, the GOP will not allow Section 4 to be rewritten and passed into law in any manner that actually "codifies and effectuates the 15th Amendment's permanent guarantee that, throughout the nation, no person shall be denied the right to vote on account of race or color," which is the point.
Now, we would need a drafting, a Discharge petition, and then the votes to defeat a GOP filibuster in the Senate for the VRA to become law.
It's dead. The VRA (Section 4) is not going to rewritten, and voting rights will remain under attack by Sensenbrenner and the GOP.
My point is we should hold Sensenbrenner and GOP accountable for "compelling evidence of continuing interference with attempts by African American citizens to exercise their right to vote."
The fix would be easy, the mega Voting Rights Act called the Right to Vote amendment which would render photo voter ids unconstitutional, and arguably displace the need for the VRA itself.
As you know, Sensenbrenner and the GOP will never support it. If it were in the GOP's power, they would repeal the 15th Amendment.