The real question is whether the Van Jones resignation was voluntary or at the request of the President. If the later, then, like the Rev. Wright affair, it reflects Obama's willingness to throw progressives under the bus at the first hint of a right-wing backlash.

Don't it though? As I said, more tomorrow.

ahhh, shades of 1965-9(ish) all over again.

Hope this steels Van's resolve to go at them even harder next time.

Yes, one thing a democrat will always do is bow out and run when they get caught "telling the truth".

Now if he had been in there lying through his teeth every day then everything would have been fine.
Tell the truth, especially an "inconvenient truth" and your gone.

It is quite pathetic when media power is used in this partisan manner without direct involved support of the public. Drumming up past deeds always seems to be the way to perform character assassination. How well a person is doing now always seems to be, somehow, irrelevant...

It is also unfortunate that this fellow did not have the political battle hardening to allow him to survive such an assault. Obama better ensure those he appoints are ready to be "shot at" by those willing to use smear campaigns rather than be involved in a legitimate debate.

What's amazing and disturbing is that they got him to resign by alleging that he didn't accept the governments version of what happened and led up to the 9/11 attacks. That's what happens when you question the status quo.

Shows you how powerful cognitive dissonance is in shutting down critical thinking thereby keeping people obedient to the powers that be.

arrrrrrrrgh. I'm watching Glenn Beck's idiocy right now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80zzW6Osyhs

God, what an asshole.

Devastating news.
Even when we win, we lose.
Got the 2009 sucker-punched blues. Ag'n.
(Repeat chorus/ and...drink!)

Crying a high tide, today, from these dastardly one-two defeats we endure at the hands of the Stupid Family. (Three if you count the Diebold sale, and I do - oh, I do.)

Huffpo had some terrible, loaded, incomplete reporting on the Van Jones exchange that I can't help but feel led to some of the blood-letting from the left. Horrified, once more, at the branding of the 9/11 truth movement as "looney fringe" by people who've never bothered to read the 9/11 Commission Report, but hey, they can blog about it with a tsunami of condescending bravado.

Why can't the blueonepartysystem-part take a page from the redonepartysystem-part and stand by your fringe no matter what? They don't disavow even their most polarizing, garbage-pilfering, base-hating, fabricated baloney-barges, do they, HuffPo - !? Don't let silly superfluous facts blind your blind loyalty~! Unity with Impugnity, says I.
Fight Ire with Ire.

Meanwhile, like a comic book subplot: I find myself fighting all day on FACEBOOK with a teabagging, Glenn-Beck-headed, really riled up formerly favorite Aunt o'mine who's brain has been snatched up and drained of it's essence like a podling in a Henson flick by a creepy, Skexie like Glenn Beck.

As of today, I give up. If we can't agree on facts, anymore - and we can't (she just shuts down when confronted with them) - then we have no jumping off point for civil discourse. So, I life a glass to the loss of civility in debate, this Labor Day Weekend. The glories rewarded to the Partisan Patsy, the Congressional Medal of Honor to The Biggest Failure, so much precious yard-age conceded to assholes.

Here's to the sad, sad resignation of Van Jones, and the loss of my favorite Aunt's brain essence to a cult of liars who are allowed to deliver smart, accomplished, pro-active progressive heads on a post.

Shame. On. All.

"lifT" a glass, meant to write. But, yes, I'm upset enough to LIFE a glass as well.

Communist. 9/11 conspiracy nut. Good riddance.

Republicans call Obama, fascist, Nazi, Hitler, racist? Not a problem. What did Van Jones do? Sign a petition proposing an investigation into 9/11? Is that right? And he gets canned as the Democrats back up on the matter? Jocelyn Elders redux. She was the one person who had integrity in the Clinton Administration and she got shitcanned for saying something real. Like Van Jones. My question is how can someone as smart as Obama be so fucking insulated, myopic, and just plain STOOPIT,(same for his court jesters)to not understand the nature of the Republicans take-no-prisoners form of hardball? I call it really bad parenting. No parent worth a lick would let their children get away with the type of horseshit our current Republicans pull every day. That's what many, many current Republicans they remind me of--children who are acting out. It's hard to know who to be most infuriated with-- Repukelickems, Democraps, or the media making it all possible. I vote for the media. You expect politicians to be how they are.

So, like, if 9-11 was an inside job then Van the Man could stay?

But it wasn't so he needs to go. Cause independent thinkers are trouble no matter what they believe.

Conform or be cast out. It's not like he lobbied for Raytheon is it?

Now maybe Jones can say what he really thinks happened on 9/11?

Maybe he can utter words like "nano-thermite"

or "put-options" or, god forbid, "dancing israelis"

Ehhhhhh, just antother taste of what we can look forward to for the next 3 1/2 years.

Vee must cater to ze Republicans at all costs...

Why I do not know. Sibel, you have the right of it I think.

Dems cave because they're scared. I've always thought so. Sibel gave us some of the reasons.

Obama, what are you scared of?

These Dims give castrados a bad name...

Does anyone remember I said the buzzword "cave in" will soon crop up? I think Ernie remembers that:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com...540/vp/32697285#32697285

Beck vs Jones makes the headlines but it's a people issue. There is nothing so powerful as the collective opinion of the general public. No one man or administration can change it.

RB

I'd like to point out something about conservative sites like Alex Jones. I keep saying, that even though they may say things you agree with, and I do agree with many things he says, there is a RACIST TINGE to even conservative sites that you may like. Try and find, on Alex Jones' site, an article defending Van Jones...gee, a 9/11 truther that Alex Jones doesn't defend? Oh, but he's black, I forgot:

http://www.infowars.com/

If Van Jones was white, Alex Jones would be all over it like "white on rice"!

Try and find, on Alex Jones site, an article defending that black woman at the Town Hall meeting, where a white guy tore up her Rosa Parks sign.

See anything on "What Really Happened", defending Van Jones?

http://whatreallyhappened.com/

Who ISN'T defending Van Jones?

Gee! They always defend 9/11 truthers! But not BLACK ones!

Sorry Alex Jones and Michael Rivero: GOTCHA on this one!!! Alex Jones would have to shitcan all his Obama/Joker t-shirt sales, in order to defend Van Jones.

Just "ignore" it, a white 9/11 truther may come along that you can defend!!!

Dan....ok...i admit, I have slummed it a few times over at prisonplanet. Hearing they endorse 9/11 truth got me at first. But I now see that is just a ruse. It's like watching a freakin' 5 car pileup on the freeway. Sad, even horrifying yet you...just...can't ..seem... to look away.

The racism is subtle. It's the preponderance of gun lovers that turns my stomach. Every other poster is like: "LOCK and LOAD", "Get your AMMO"
kill this person, kill that person, kill the commies in DC, kill the doctor trying to give vaccines. Trying to spread the idea of peaceful revolution there is one tough nut.

And yes, the poster thing is WAY over the top.

Vaccines too. I aint gettin one but damn, 2-3 stories EVERY DAY??

Thanks again Brad for having a relatively sane corner of the net staked out and so well run.

Paper ballots and Sibel Edmonds make this boy happy.

It's heartening to see the false-paradigm, two headed, one party system eating itself.

Do the posers... er posters on this page really think there's any difference between this regime and the last. Guys like Van Jones are power hungry egomaniacs. Where's the change?

None of thses scumbags are interested in a Free America. They only use the "F" word to sound good.

Angelo do you know this because the Rev. Sun / Moon told you so?

Personally, Angelo, I do think this is more like Bush's third term than an Obama administration, and so I'm not as riled as I otherwise would have been about this scene with Van Jones, but a lot of people are seeing the creeping racism thing and want to hash it out.

Indeed, I have heard people who never would have used The "N" Word, even in private, before starting to use it now in their frustration and fear by this horrifically disappointing start on the new administration. So I think it's better for anyone who wishes the racism crap to be over forever to try their very hardest not to stoop to those accusations. It's why the Republican side of this Zen coin keeps going right up to the edge with it, because they know if they can get the Democratic side of the Zen coin screaming "Racists, racists, racists," their base is back energized and ready to fight to put their side back in the cushy seats.

Like the jackass logo, too many party faithfuls fall for it every single time.

But, hey, it's all posing, so... heck....

No Tunga. I know it because I lived in Baltimore for ten years and watched a great city get flushed down the tubes by trippers like Van Jones. They perpetrated financial corruption previously un-imaginable. And the victims were the little black kids in the schools who got shit on - even violated. But the liberal brutha's promised to change all that for the better. Did they? No! They made it 10 times worse. So go lay your personal, un-informed, mob head, attack on some Shitzu your own mental size Tunga.

So, are you saying the 9/11 Commission got it right? It aint really about race except bein that Van was a brother made it easier to lynch him.

It's about TRUTH. Get too close and you will burn, baby, burn.

Brad Blog:
So glad to hear you on the Malloy show and kicking ass. I have been as equally upset as you are on the fact that Obama, Rahm, Axelrod and Co. so easily and quickly threw the Great Van Jones under the bus and keep capitulating to the Reich Wing on every goddamn thing. Thanks for your righteous rage and ranting and tearing his spineless admin and the Dems 'new ones' over this and also, the pre-capitulation of Single-Payer health care before the bill was even drawn up and the really wrangling could begin. And thanks for your wall to wall stomping of the Satanic Zit Head Glenn Beck. I have been so fuckin' mad this holiday weekend I have almost been in a wrist-slashing or even throat slashing mode ala H.R. Mencken, but you and your raving and punk and metal bumpers are keeping me sane and from committing murder and mayhem. Keep it coming! You are doing a great job!

Brad,
Everyone is overlooking that none of the networks discussed Jones signing the 9/11 petition - and not just Fox. I saw PBS news last night and same thing - just a one liner he signed a petition saying Bush administration may have participated in 9/11. Well let's not forget that there is a story there, and there's a new petition heading for NYC Council with over 80,000 signatures, so all the media is still not reporting on this story, or showing the polls that agree mainly with Jones. The one liners from the networks are actually propaganda because there's no balanced other side of the story........

The least we could do for everyone is get the same questions answered.

Why would anyone consider attempts to get to the truth of 911 controversial? Only thinking about this for a second, and I would have to say, someone who doesn't want the truth to come out. It's the same crew who doesn't want to talk about doping chips in electronic vote tabulation devices, or Sibel Edmonds for that matter. This crew call's themself "media" call's themself "news" but they are not news or media . they literally need a new name to stick and remove or strip the names "news and media" from them. Sure they have accredited ID's hanging off their lanyards, and they have 250K camera's and amp's and mic's and light's and satellite's and mixer's and title equipment with a paid small army to run it.

One person with a miniDV shoved in the right place blows them away.

You could literally play spin the bottle on Bradblog with controversial topics . None of them get on the corporate channels . The corporate local stations around you have fun at the "open the firehose with the children waterfight" and it is good local journalism, but when they ignore doped chips, public oversight of the vote No running a stupid 250K camera of the outside sheet metal enclosure for an electronic vote tabulation device is not journalism, and ignore potentially stolen nuke secrets, and treason or the successful failure no cops yet of all these banks . We have a problem . They can't even sit down and cleanly word up how nobody in the US (even visitors but especially citizens) should be denied health care. You don't get any common sense stern opinion like that.

Only PBS came close out of all this garbage. Frankly I couldn't even tell you what everyone is arguing about anymore. It's a bunch of crap so freaking remixed I got completely lost the day I heard someone's finger getting bit off. Now I just hear there's a bunch of crap bills. Well done "news media" only guerrilla journalists can slow you now, while your running our country off the cliff.

PS: The US should change the title "CZAR" to anything else. It makes if feel dark and gray like a dictatorship.
How about "Planning Division of X" where X = Cars, Drugs, Green etc.. It's more in line with what they SHOULD be doing right?

Easy Commie, easy go.
So long racist.

Dear Sir: September 1, 2009

My name is Matthew M Petrin; from Nashville, Tennessee I have worked successfully in the field of commercial real estate since 1988 for firms and clients such as W. Gerald Ezell, Carl Storey III, Insignia Commercial Group, Prudential Insurance, GE Capital, ARC Properties, Jamestown Properties, First Union National Bank, Crescent Resources, Ambassador Joe Rodgers and Woodmen of the World Life Insurance Society.

In 2001 I was partner in the firm CAPITAL Real Estate Services. A string of coordinated events began to occur that appear to have been arranged in an effort to cause division between my partner Deborah (Sutton) Wilson (San Diego, CA) her client Woodmen of the World Life Insurance Society (Omaha, NE) and myself. Going forward there has been a constant and professional effort to discredit my character, isolate me from society and drain my finances. There have been several horrific events coordinated on subsequent dates of 9-11 over the years following. I have no history that would be a catalyst to such treatment. Coming out of the business development side of our industry I spent my life entertaining and nurturing client relationships. Researching this scenario in an effort to discover motive for this treatment I have discovered the following facts:

* Woodmen Tower was the tallest building in Omaha in 2001
* Mr. Bush visited Omaha on 9-11-01
* Several executives working in the World Trade Towers were in Omaha on 9-11 attended a
fund raiser hosted by Mr. Warren Buffett, further there was a scheduled tour of Offutt Air
Force Stratcom’s -“Global Guardian” which monitor and control global nuclear systems.

I feel these events are related to 9-11 and a program by a foreign entity to “snuff” my existence and credibility. For some eight years now I have carried great burden and persecution. People near and dear to me are literally tortured or killed. Since this incident my younger sister Marianne (38 Petrin) Rachelli (Boulder, Colorado) was killed on 9-11-02, my grandmother Denise Petrin (93 Downingtown, PA) killed on 9-12-2003, my sister Suzanne (42 Petrin) Thompson (Nashville, TN) attacked and beat with a steel chair 9-03, my niece Magi Hicks (7-months Murfreesboro, TN) killed and professionally covered up, friend Millard Fuller founder of Habitat for Humanity and Fuller Center for Housing murdered in 2009 with in a twelve hour period of the death of Mr. Joe Rodgers a client during 2002 and 2006 (Mark Gill). I have been extorted (over and over out of belongings, relationships, finances and peace of mind in a deceptive and calculated manner), my ex-wife, daughter, and fiancé literally turned into Manchurian slaves with “SHELL LIFE” covers, and seem to be going through some type of conditioning/brainwashing or multi-purpose slavery. I have been long suffering and forgiving regarding these atrocities, but they continue. I have been run out of every attempt I have made to work, buffeted and mentally tortured in a constant and degrading campaign without reason or cause. I have donated my time to community service, my money to the poor, and turned myself into the authorities reporting any and all minor infractions that occurred in my entire life. I cherished my wife and my daughter form the day she was born, only to discover this horrific work in the background. I have reported these events, but someone seems to have built a “moat” between myself and authorities that are able to stop these atrocities. Many citizens including myself have been victims of these circumstances. Tax paying American citizen’s of excellent character. Why am I not receiving citizen protection, rights, or allowed to discuss these occurrences? I am asking for your help in this matter as a neighbor, friend and patriot of our great country

During the past two weeks Beck publicly asked the Obama administration to reply. They did not. If what Beck said was wrong in any way, the administration could easily have responded. Jones is guilty and Obama knows/knew it.

When Jones was forced out by Obama his statement did not address the issues that Beck raised - only attempts to discredit the source.