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"'Stunningly' Racist Toon of the Moment..."
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Phil
said on 2/18/2009 @ 3:25 pm PT...
The haters have come out of the woodwork lately.
Even Art Bell got slandered again.
It's a god damn good thing I don't control the press credentials.
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Matt
said on 2/18/2009 @ 6:45 pm PT...
I think the reaction to this is overblown. First of all, Obama didn't write the stimulus package. Could it be the cartoonist is suggesting that the package is so stupid, an ape could have written it? Are we now to endure four years of hyper-PC because we have a black president? And coming out of the mouth of Sharpton, one of the biggest opportunists, we all need to lighten up and take a deep breath. And yes, I did vote for him.
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Agent 99
said on 2/18/2009 @ 7:10 pm PT...
Paybacks for eight years of calling * a chimp, I'm sure... which was always vexing to me since he so much more resembles a macaque than a chimp.
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Jeannie Dean
said on 2/18/2009 @ 7:52 pm PT...
Phil, what happened with Art Bell?...
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Lora
said on 2/18/2009 @ 8:50 pm PT...
It's fine and well not to get all worked up about being PC all the time, but...
When we have our first Black president whose family and he himself are under extraordinary security, and we have unhinged racist wingnuts out there, and you'd have to be raised in a vacuum not to realize the racist and somewhat disturbing overtones of a cartoon chimpanzee shot full of holes representing the author of the stimulus bill that Obama has, if not authored himself, laid out the framework for...
"Stunning" is a rather mild description, I should say.
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Phil
said on 2/18/2009 @ 9:23 pm PT...
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Agent 99
said on 2/18/2009 @ 10:06 pm PT...
People are going apeshit [not a pun] over the economic meltdown and the more jobs lost and the more bank failures and scary omens, the worse it will get. People are leaping on little threads of misunderstood information and making wild and terrorizing theories out of them, like savages juicing up for war. Sometimes it's the exact same bit of misunderstood information causing equal amounts of wildness on every side.
Rep Kanjorski recently let slip some vague accounting of the run on the money markets last September 18th. Because of his imprecision people on the left thought it happened on September 11th and were calling it a new financial 9/11; people from Planet Paranoia were saying it was the Mossad pulling off another false flag; people on the right were saying George Soros wanted to make sure Obama won, so he did it. It freaked me out. So I googled my brains out to find out exactly what happened, including enduring the hours of the House Finance Subcommittee hearing where Bernanke and Paulson showed up to explain why they wanted $750 billion right away.
The money markets had become even more fragile when Lehman Brothers tanked the week before. It was barely holding. Bernanke and Paulson weren't getting any sleep from sitting on the markets, but on the 18th they stopped paying a dollar for every dollar invested. So the fund managers started moving out of the money market and into treasuries for safety, even though that made the return go down to a fraction of 1%. The only way Bernanke and Paulson could stop the run out of the money markets was to make emergency guarantees to the fund managers trying to get out. They had to keep this up through the next day, Friday, September 19th.
It was the modern equivalent of the bank run in '29, but they put the brakes on before it could constitute an immediate and total crash of global finance. It wasn't a new 9/11. The Mossad didn't do it. George Soros didn't do it. It was the natural consequence of ASSHOLES playing games --- musical chairs --- with CDOs all that time. Everybody knew about it. Everybody knew it was coming. The financial press and most of the political press had been talking about it for a long time, and what the heck was going to happen when China got hip to all that bad paper they were buying that we were calling AAA rated.
So then it happens and people go apeshit, go feral, savage.... Their fear makes them revert to their very ugliest selves. That's part of why all this secrecy and criminality is SO very, very bad. It frightens people. Turns them into terrified animals. They need to see the bad guys getting thrown in the slammer. They need the truth. They need the fucking MSM to do its job. They need the fucking government to do its job.
This is end of the world kind of urgent and everyone has been under too much stress for far too long.
If I were going to run a post on this cartoon, I'd title it something more along the lines of Rupert Murdoch Should Be Shot For Running This Cartoon, but I'm told that's not very journalistic....
Anyway, my point is: We can expect the savagery to get worse, and the failure of the Democratic Party to bring us relief in the form of prosecutions for the war crimes and financial crimes and insults to the Constitution is definitely part of the engine of this mounting savagery. It is the job of the new administration and congress to deal with this stuff and all anyone sees is them pumping more billions into bad banks and bad companies and borrowing at levels we all know cause runaway inflation.
I'm not saying it's Obama's fault some pig drew this and an even bigger pig printed it, but it is now his responsibility to deal with the mounting terror from the last eight years. His party made up their minds not to do jack until they had the White House and their majorities... against all decency and humanity. NOW what is their excuse? They have none.
And there's only so long people can swallow mounting hysteria from this many insults to their sensibilities. If we don't get some ADULTS working on it, any day now this is going to turn into the set for Road Warrior.
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Soul Rebel
said on 2/18/2009 @ 10:43 pm PT...
I was listening to Malloy this evening, he was referencing testimony given by former Adm. Blair, now the (what? Director of Nat. Security?) Blair was saying that the economic crisis could very well turn into large pockets of organized civil unrest that would require a military presence to suppress...Malloy goes on to read an article by Chris Hedges that speculates all sorts of people outside the scope of anything "organized" in terms of a resistance movement, people like us who are clearly "disgruntled" and speaking out will likely be the targets of such military supression.
This is what "they" are preparing for.
And to think it could potentially be averted, at least in terms of governmental confidence, if the Democrats would just sack up and put the people in jail who need to be put in jail. Then again, as many have mentioned here, there are likely a good number of Democrats in that prosecutable group.
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Agent 99
said on 2/18/2009 @ 11:20 pm PT...
It makes me want to puke that so many of them far prefer aiming their "active denial" rays on crowds of ripped-off citizens than to lose their partisan head trips and FUNCTION... no matter what country we're talking.
If they don't pull it together soon, the people will do it for them the good old-fashioned way.
And, yes, I truly believe that putting people in jail for all this stuff, doing that "looking back" Obama is so loath to engage in, would do the very most to avert chaos in the streets, everywhere, of any other thing he could do. It would chasten the guys who want to run with the criminals. It would be a huge relief for the scared witless average person, and it would give people "hope", give back the vital energy needed to meet this crisis and get through it without forfeiting more liberty or our civilization.
It HAS to get done. Right away. People should be swinging from Obama's earlobes, tap dancing on his forehead, until he takes this on and sees it through. Throwing rhetoric and billions at it will not work.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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what now toons
said on 2/18/2009 @ 11:53 pm PT...
"What Now Toons" response to the "New York Post's Racist Cartoon!"
The New York Posts cartoon?!! What can I say, this is a despicable cartoon, for all too many reasons.
For years the racists have referred to African Americans as monkeys, this is a throwback to those terrible Jim Crow times. Then you have the issue of domestic terrorism, because that is what this cartoon implies, shooting a beloved president, this cartoon is just irresponsible on so many levels. The cartoonist has crossed the line of bad taste and fans the flames of political threats.
I'm a political cartoonist from the left side of the fence, and it would NEVER cross my mind to draw a cartoon of this nature about Bush, I never did, check out my toons to see
It's up on my website right now
www.whatnowtoons.com
left of center political cartoons.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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mick
said on 2/19/2009 @ 1:36 am PT...
The function of modern government is to take from the poor and give to the rich...look at the evidence ...don't listen to their words .How many small companies received a bailout of taxpayers money = 0...corporate socialism ...kinda like the old Soviet Union don't yea thunk?
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MsKitty
said on 2/19/2009 @ 3:52 am PT...
This cartoon should never have made it past intelligent editors. It shouldn't have made it past a stupid editor. The cartoon even under the most generous reading of its intent, isn't funny or ironic. It is bad on every level; racist, violent, and unclear in its intent in any other way you could try to interpret it. Sadly, the not so subliminal message is VERY CLEAR.
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jacki
said on 2/19/2009 @ 6:37 am PT...
Matt #2: i concur.
when we "over" react we help that pendulum to keep swinging, & by being too pc, we swing it again by pretending these feelings don't exist.
yes, we need 2 know racism so that we might not participate.
you know how every racist joke starts, don'tcha?
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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cyteria
said on 2/19/2009 @ 6:53 am PT...
Nonsense. There is nothing racist whatever about this cartoon. The story of the chimp that went savage in Stamford, CT probably didn't get much play in the West Coast, but it is all over the news here. A woman's 200 lb. pet chimp savagely attacked a 55 yr old friend. The police arrived, it attacked them, and they shot it dead.
The righteous indignation crowd, including Sharpton, who are so quick to take offense, need to lighten up.
I dislike the cartoon because it is tasteless (not racist). This is a tragedy for the woman who owned the chimp as well as the person attacked. Moreover, I don't like its politics --the Stimulus Act looks promising to me. Finally, and worst of all, it is not funny.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Lora
said on 2/19/2009 @ 5:55 pm PT...
Wow, 99, I like your comment #7. I am in total agreement. (Take a picture )
Per Cyteria:
There is nothing racist whatever about this cartoon.
Okaaaay then. I know a river in Egypt...
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 2/19/2009 @ 6:15 pm PT...
Really! I'm getting the screen shot now....
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Lisa
said on 2/20/2009 @ 6:19 am PT...
Any cartoon that need to be explained is exactly what the first impression is - wrong. It's racist and only those over 40 yrs old know it. Younger than that??? maybe not. But for us older Americans, we know exactly what it is. Racist and threatening against our President. Not even 30 days into his presidency and a cartoonist is drawing him shot by cops and dead. Unfrigginbelievable.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Greg
said on 2/20/2009 @ 10:28 pm PT...
A lot of talk in these comments
The question is: What can be done to the NY Post so they think a whole lot harder before printing this kind of cartoon?
Murdoch is about power and money. Is he bothered by people complaining about his paper here? If no... then what can people do?
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 2/20/2009 @ 11:09 pm PT...
Greg
I'm writing to him now to tell him I will be his conscience for a mere million dollars a month. If he follows my advice, he will die beloved of the multitudes and be with the buddhas of the ten directions in eternity. If not, people will be a lot happier because of my philanthropy anyway.
Short of that, obviously, the only thing that would work is highly illegal, and very seriously not done.
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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colinjames
said on 2/21/2009 @ 3:01 pm PT...
Let me see if I can paraphrase this right-
"Due to our advertizers forcing us to respond to a mountain of undue critcism, we apologize to certain people who incorrectly misinterpreted wednesday's page six cartoon, and were subsequently offended by their misinterpretation of the image.
We really can't see how anyone could possibly think that a chimpanzee could be construed as a caricature of a black man, but, since that seems to be the case, there you have it.
However, this sentiment does not apply to anyone who disagrees with our editorial point of view, because we really don't care what you think, and are more than happy to offend your delicate liberal sensibilities at any time.
So to those of you who fall into the latter category, to be clear, we are NOT apologizing to you in any way, shape, or form. Now please go f*ck yourselves."
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Lora
said on 2/21/2009 @ 5:12 pm PT...
Nice job, Colinjames.
If only the Post had stopped after "we apologize." Then they simply would have been inept idiots instead of inept rude arrogant idiot assholes.
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Agent 99
said on 2/21/2009 @ 5:25 pm PT...
Murdoch is the one who should be fired. He's the one who encourages all this feral shit that passes for journalism and commentary. Either make him pay me that million bucks a month to turn his ass around, or rise up and take him down. Why do we stand for plutocrats riling the populace like this? Don't we yet grok what that's about?
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Phil
said on 2/22/2009 @ 2:09 am PT...
Grok - word most folk don't comprehend. Sort of like Feasic (Aware)
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Lora
said on 2/22/2009 @ 8:55 am PT...
I don't know Feasic; I do know grok, though.
Too much brainwashing going on for most people to be able to grok what it's about.
As I've been saying, we gotta do some heavy deprogramming, of the kind the Brad Blog has been doing consistently. Look at the opposition the Brad Blog gets from the so-called left! They are fighting tooth and nail to keep their brainwashed views. But we have to keep putting the facts, the facts out there all the time in a way that people can understand. We need to deconstruct the bullshit, all the time. If we can wake people up, then the Rupert Murdochs will have less power. Thank Goddess for the internet. Seriously. It's almost our only way of really reaching people.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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Lora
said on 2/22/2009 @ 8:56 am PT...
Heh. I wouldn't put it past the Post, in this era of waning newspapers, to deliberately put such a provocative cartoon out there just to sell more papers.
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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what now toons
said on 2/25/2009 @ 11:33 am PT...
The good that I hope comes out of this cartoon is that first Murdoch looses his waiver to own more media in a city than the current FCC laws allow. Thus he would have to sell that paper .
Next I would like to see the FCC go back to at least ( to begin with ) 1996 ownership rules. Too few media outlets control all that we see and hear.
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