WAY, WAY, WAY overdue! Thanks for letting us all know this is still going on live on C-SPAN.

Kucinich is hitting home runs like they are being fed to him.

I sure as hell hope he gets backing on this and it goes through!

Really, really nice to hear all reasons for impeachment said out loud, all at once.

I heart Kucinich!

good job dennis k
hopefully other voices will join
its nevr too late too do the right thing

So?

"Tampering with elections". Looks like our articles made it into the final version! I couldn't be prouder...

Reading some of the excerpts from "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder" by Bugliosi, he seems to think bush should be tried for murder...
[snip]
"If Bush were impeached, convicted in the Senate, and removed from office, he'd still be a free man, still be able to wake up in the morning with his cup of coffee and freshly squeezed orange juice and read the morning paper, still travel widely and lead a life of privilege, still belong to his country club and get standing ovations whenever he chose to speak to the Republican faithful. This, for being responsible for over 100,000 horrible deaths?* For anyone interested in true justice, impeachment alone would be a joke for what Bush did."
Prosecution

Darn, what is the right thing to do? You got to get him/them, but which is the best way? My head hurts, how do you guys stay sane?

Wow, Kucinich is really covering the "election fraud". Proud for you too Brad.

Kucinich is to be commended for doing this, but this will likely go no where, in part, because it's Kucinich doing it. The useless and worthless pro-war, pro-corporate Bush-ass eating Dems run as far away from Kucinich as they possibly can. So there you go.

If it were the Traitor of the House Pelosi doing this, then this would be a different story but it's Kucinich.

And it was John Conyers who said on DemocracyNow! that he had the Constitution in one hand and a watch in the other, and there's no time for impeachment. And he said all that garbage months ago. So since there supposedly wasn't time months ago, why would there be time now?

The Dems would say that they can't have the "distraction" of impeachment and that they have to focus on Obama and "winning the White House" and that the nation can't endure a divisive impeachment process. That's what the Dems are likely to puke out once again, if they say anything.

I haven't seen anything from the Bush State Media (corporate media) on this.

Kucinich is what a Dem is supposed to be like. Unfortunately, this is just another flash in the pan. I suppose the koolaid drinkers will get all excited about it and be jumping up and down with grandiose expectations and wishful-thinking as they usually do (only to later be disappointed time and time again), but in the big picture it's likely to be meaningless.

Also, Kucinich introduced Articles of Impeachment for Cheney in April 2007 and we see where that went: no where.

Kucinich Introduces Impeachment Articles Against Cheney
http://www.washingtonpos.../24/AR2007042401542.html

KUCINICH FOR VP!!!!

Erma I agree it will probably not go anywhere, but what Kucinich is doing "looks" good to me, and to the rest of the world I would think. At least it is being acknowledged OUT LOUD and on record. The silence was deafening and that is misunderstood as not caring. IMO

Wilber ~ Pinch me ... I think I may be dreamin . . .

Holy shit! Article 33 says * was given radically more detailed warning about 9/11 than I've ever heard of before. AMAZING! UNBELIEVABLE. HORRIFYING....

I was so distracted by this, I forgot to watch American Gladiators.

Clearly, Kucinich is ruining this country.

Back at the beginning of this decade Kucinich relied on a cointelpro spook named Carol Rosin to write up a peace in space bill. The draft included the word chemtrails. Unfortunately, the draft also included the phrase extra-terrestrial space weapons.

Back then it was fairly obvious that specific aircraft were creating artificial cloud cover. Now all these years later, we have seen only two newscasts give an objective few minutes to this story. {KSLA News12 Louisiana and KNBC News4 Los Angeles}

Paid trolls are all over the internet. Paid trolls like Carol Rosin with ties to the nazi Werner Von Braun unfortunately end up drafting these kind of bills.

Beware of the bait and switch. Go over that bill or whatever with a fine toothed comb. There could be things in there that are ridiculous or badly worded.

As for anyone who debunks the chemtrails, you can kiss my ass. They have been proven as real. Anyone saying otherwise, show me some commercial airliners leaving contrails that expand into total overcast. It can't be done.

Sweet!

Go Dennis!

This would be why he has such a babe for a wife. He makes other members of Congress look like fleas.

Outstanding coverage Brad, let's hope some in the MSM pick up these threads and begin looking into the serious charges being leveled against the bush administration!

treason, torture, illegal spying, war crimes and murder!

While I'd like to see a public garroting of both Bush and Cheney, I know that there's not enough time to do this right. It would be a distraction to the business at hand- to turn this mess around. I hate to see them get a pass, but let's look at this realistically.

To everyone that doesn't "know" what to do next.

You need to look inside yourselves and ask yourself, do you believe in the United States Constitution, and Freedom, or don't you? There is where you will find your answer.

Don't be swayed by anyone saying this will amount to nothing. Stop being a child, think for yourselves, grow up and see the corruption and do something about it.

DO you want to live free or do you want the same old crap to drudge on?

Don't even be swayed by me. You got to decide yourselves. Freedom or same old shit? Screw what everyone says. Answer that to your own heart and mind.

Then, Grow some balls of steel, Kucinich has!

Bring it on!!! An impeachment will guarantee a McCain Presidency and a return to the Republican majority in the Senate.

totally Bogus G W Bush has not done anything IMPEACHABLE this is all sour Grapes over Blow Job Willie Clinton time for you Democrats to get a life and Start concentrating on the 2012 Election! Because your all going to be Crying after your Candidate the Black Racist Closet Muslim gets Trounced All know Hilliary was the Best and most popular choice and your only hope

#19 Hardy Har HAr, you really put one over on us.

Btw~ HHO, Brown's gas, water for fuel. The 100 mpg car. The water torch on youtube. This is the revolution. Take away the need for suckling power from those murderous oil and energy companies.

We would have NO need for war when our cars and houses are powered by water.

RIP Stan Meyer

Hey McDaniel - you must be scared shit less of the terrorist boogeyman to still be supporting Bush. Find some courage and stand up for your rights.

Take your head out of the sand and you'll see that our economy is a wreak, our international reputation is trashed and millions have been needlessly killed.

We'll be paying for it all for decades. You must like paying $5 for gas. somehow, I'll see to it that people like you pay the damage rather than my kids.

Troll 19, encroachment into people's sex lives for political gain and the slaughter of a million people in an illegal war along with the calculated undermining of our government...hmmm? I think Americans can see the difference for themselves and your old bs tactics are pathetic.

Impeachment Article # 36

2004 Election Fraud: Confirmation of a Kerry Landslide
Truth Is All

http://www.geocities.com...ionOfaKerryLandslide.htm

Introduction: To Believe Bush Won...
1. When Decided
2. Bush Approval Ratings
3. Pre-Election Polling I
4. Pre-Election Polling II
5. The Final 5 Million Recorded Votes
6. The Final Exit Poll: Forced to Match the Vote
7. Within Precinct Discrepancy
8. New Voters
9. Party ID
10. Gender
11. Implausible Gore Voter Defection
12. Voter Turnout
13. Urban Legend
14. Location Size
15. Sensitivity Analysis
16. Did Kerry Win 360 EV?
17. Election Simulation Analysis
18. Exit Poll Response Optimization
19. Uncounted and Switched Votes
20. Florida
21. Ohio
22. New York

Appendix
A. Election Model: Nov.1 Projection
B. Interactive Monte Carlo Simulation: Pre-election and Exit Polls
C. 1988-2004 Election Calculator: The True Vote
D. The 2000-2004 County Vote Database
E. Statistics and Probability: Mathematics of Polling

1. When Decided
2. Bush Approval Ratings
3. Pre-Election Polling
4. The Final 5 Million Recorded Votes
5. The Final Exit Poll: Forced to Match the Vote
6. Within Precinct Discrepancy
7. New Voters
8. Party ID
9. Gender
10. Implausible Gore Voter Defection
11. Voter Turnout
12. Urban Legend
13. Location Size
14. Sensitivity Analysis
15. Did Kerry Win 360 EV?
16. Election Simulation Analysis
17. Exit Poll Response Optimization
18. Uncounted and Switched Votes
19. Florida
20. Ohio
21. New York

Appendix

A. Election Model: Nov.1 Projection
B. Interactive Monte Carlo Simulation: Pre-election and Exit Polls
C. 1988-2004 Election Calculator: The True Vote
D. The 2000-2004 County Vote Database
E. Statistics and Probability: Mathematics of Polling

I tried to sign the petition, but when I clicked "submit" there was a long wait and then my screen was filled with something like "Warning - SQL server" and a bunch of code. Anybody know what happened?

Phil #18:

You need to look inside yourselves and ask yourself, do you believe in the United States Constitution, and Freedom, or don't you? There is where you will find your answer.

Don't be swayed by anyone saying this will amount to nothing.

Your message is misdirected in my view. Other than a few people on here who have tried to smear Kucinich, I think most people on here support him as I have. Your message should be directed to the scum in congress, particularly the Bush-enablers in congress.

I said this would likely amount to nothing, just like the April 2007 Cheney Articles of Impeachment which have essentially gone nowhere and which Kucinich brought up.

One can wish otherwise but wishing doesn't make it so. I have wished since 2000 that the Dems would be an opposition party and not a Bush-enabling party. The Dems have been part of all this so they are not likely to impeach two of their "own" people (Bush/Cheney) and the two people they have been enabling and complicit with. The Dems would implicate themselves in any impeachment hearings. That's, in part, why it's not likely to go anywhere. But many people refuse to see this because they have this unrealistic vision of what they think the Dems still are today as opposed to what they really are. And those who are trying to make excuses for the useless Dems---who are in power in the majority---by saying there's not time for impeachment or that it will be a "distraction" clearly do not believe in the US Constitution, otherwise they would not speak or write such drivel.

When I saw Traitor/speaker of the House Pelosi all snuggled up with GWB right after she became speaker, I knew she had no intention whatsoever for impeachment. It confirmed for me that she was serious---as I thought she was---when she said "impeachment is off the table" well before the 2006 "election."

I think most people here believe in the US Constitution. But it's many/most of the scum in congress who obviously don't give a damn about it or the oath they took to uphold the Constitution and they have allowed it to be trashed by the Bush regime AND themselves for corporate greed, wealth and power, among other things.

And Scott McClellan can tell the congress everything he knows when he shows up for the hearing and nothing likely will happen with that either. The Dems will say at the end of the hearing:

"Well, thank you for coming. It's all been very informative and enlightening. Meeting stands adjourned." (Translation: We don't plan to do anything about any of this stuff because we've been in on much of it). End of story.

Erma, nothing "works" until it actually does. But not trying is not a solution. It's like computer programming. Often things don't work right... until they do. But you don't give up and just say it's not worth trying. It NEVER works when you do that. I'm just darn glad that someone had the tenacity and scruples to do this. What would we be able to say in the future if no one had ever tried anything? What would people in the future think of us. On another note, it is nice to hear from you, Erma.

Congressman Dennis Kucinich has outlined the failures of our President, Vice President and his Agents who abused the power entrusted to them by the people of the United States and violated their oath of office. It is time for every concerned citizen to contact the House Judiciary Committee and express their desire for this issue to be put to a vote to move forward with the impeachment process. George Bush and Dick Cheney must answer for their mismanagement and intentional abuse of power. If top US AIR Force Officers must step down for their failures, the Commander-in-Chief must certainly answer for his failings. The Law is for everyone and it is time for King George to abdicate his throne since he seems to think that he is above the law; and that obviously includes his VP. The country and the world are aware of these facts and they are waiting to see whether or not we, as a country, are serious about our leadership role in the world through our example. Failure of the system to properly answer these facts through suppression of a motion to move to immediate impeachment hearings constitutes approval of the President and Vice President's actions and constitutes a breach of Justice. Unaccountability and suppression of the facts in the face of overwhelming evidence contained in 35 Articles of Impeachment is something to which I'm sure Alberto Gonzalez would grant his approval to even if it was in contempt of Congress. This is about right and wrong, accountability and its consequences.

AT LEAST SIGN THE PETITION!

Chris #27

Thank you for the "nice to hear from you, Erma" comment.

I agree with you. And I've not said a word about not trying. I've already commended Kucinich for doing this. My complaint is that the congress--- I'm not talking about Kucinich whom most of the Dems run away from as fast as they can---never has tried since 2000 to impeach these fraudulent White House occupants and international war criminals. That was my point. These Bush-enabling scum in congress (not Kucinich) do things for show and theatre (which is all it amounts to in the end) for the television cameras and to try to fool their gullible supporters by speaking little timid words of so-called "opposition" on camera (especially during an "election" cycle), then they turn right around and vote "yes" to enable GWB once again! And I've already written my opinion of why "impeachment is off the table" in my last comment.

The hearing with McClellan will likely be just for show and theatre as per usual. No consequences have come out of any hearings since the Dems became the majority in power. Oh, they have subpoenaed a few people (for show) and those people essentially said "Fuk you" and refused to show up and there have been no consequences to that. If you or I said that and refused to show up, there would most assuredly be consequences. That's why I say it's all for show and theatre. Oh, they've had umpteen hearings, but for what? Show, theatre, BS.

But I've never said they should not seriously and legitimately try (versus pretending to try) to impeach. I just don't see it happening.

I just don't see anyone other than the small group (about 20) that supported Kucinich with the Cheney impeachment articles supporting this either. Wexler has already co-sponsored but he was a co-sponsor for the Cheney articles.

I'm a realist when it comes to politics which pisses some people off because they like to engage in false hope and wishful-thinking. With the Bush Crime Family in power creating a dictatorship?! I don't engage in wishful-thinking whatsoever when it comes to this stuff because I've seen over and over and over (especially since 2000) that it's a waste of time to do so and only leads to disappointment repeatedly.

Boycottexxonmobil #28

Congressman Dennis Kucinich has outlined the failures of our President [sic], Vice President [sic]

Rather, Representative Kucinich has outlined the failures of the current illegitimate White House residents. That's what he has done.

"our President" ?

They may be yours but they have never been mine nor will they ever.

Why did you give these frauds in the White House respect by referring to them as "President" [sic] and "Vice President" [sic] and you even used initial caps which shows respect. Both "elections" (2000, 2004) were stolen by them. These "people" are not legitimate.

They deserve no respect from anyone. They are war criminals.

Sigh.

for those of u that r just certain this will go no whr,i gotta ask
how many times do u suppose rosa moved to the back of the bus before she had had enough?
i think as americans our feet r collectively tired

Well I was going to respond here but I can't really add anything that Erma hasn't already eloquently stated, So I will ditto Erma and I agree 100%.

Myself today I called Kucinich's office and thanked him profusely.
Called traitor Pelosi's office and cussed her out.

Called and sent Emails to both of my local Congress critters.
Have told everyone that I have met today about Kucinich's patriotic stand.

and finally protested for a couple hours in 100 degree heat in front of the local courthouse.

Everything will be for zip because we only have about 2-3 Congressmen out of 535 that are worth a damn and not clearly bought and paid for by Big Oil and the lobbyist for the top 2%.

Until we rise up in full blown revolution and TAKE this country back then you can forget about anything that resembles justice & democracy in this country.
The Democrats are COMPLICIT in these crimes and cover ups, just like the Mainstream media is.

BTW Kucinich is having the Clerk in the House read the entire 35 Articles of Impeachment right now, she started at 8:35 ET.

It should be read over & over continuously until this criminal leaves office.

It is on CSPAN (naturally, since the MSM refuses to report it)

If your interested, go on Facebook and look up "Kunich's 35 Articles Of Impeachment" its a group me and a friend are running.

It feels good to know there is at least 1 legislative representative of the people in the 110th Congress who's not a greedy lying corrupt murderous 1%er sellout on the take forwarding the bush/cheney ANTI-ENVIRONMENTAL agenda or playing asleep at the wheel. Anyone paying attention to the extensive damage done by these parasitic losers understands that his voice makes an important connection as a Federal government representative to those in dissent of this 1%er oil baron/investment banker criminal takeover of our country. Outside a few other weak Congressional attempts, this despicable regime has been unchallenged outside last years attempt by Kucinich to impeach cheney.

yeh we know who's interests the majority in Congress represent and i suspect Mr. Kucinich has a clue as well.

Get the story out by word of mouth or whatever it takes to to make a few million Americans aware of his impeachment efforts and it will force the US corporate mass media to pay attention.

Grizzly Bear Dancer COMMENT #36

Get the story out by word of mouth or whatever it takes to to make a few million Americans aware of his impeachment efforts...

I spoke with a close friend of mine tonight and he said he told the client he saw today about Kucinich and what Kucinich had done.

His client had never heard of Kucinich (didn't have a clue who is was so my friend had to first explain who Kucinich was) and then his client showed no interest at all in the impeachment thing. My friend told me that his client is as sheep as they come. That explains a lot.

Since Brad quoted me, on the show yesterday I feel obligated to comment on the comments.

To those that want to thank Kucinich, STOP. He politely asked the public to STOP doing that. His website has been attacked and they can't handle it. DoS / DDoS attacks

Instead of cussing out Pelosi, why not instead put forth the questions I asked earlier in this thread? Something I learned from Brad is that anger isn't going to be taken seriously.

The House Judiciary Committee is as good a place as any to start. (though I am no expert here)

Erma, I understand your frustration. But I think we have all had enough doom and gloom, it's got to be a positive message sent, to whoever you send it.

Defeatist attitudes need to stop. (I'v been guilty of it too!) We can change this problem, but not if we keep thinking we are powerless before we even start to fight. In that respect, be respectful, but be stern, Be diligent, Be effective, Be honorable, Be honest.

There are several People who have stuck their necks out, support them by going upstream, and staying ahead. Not by following Corporate Fascist Mainstream threads, blogs, and comments. Turn that crap off or turn the channel.

I remember a book I read in College, called Looking Out Looking In. There's a lot of tricks being played for your mind right now.

I hope you get what I am saying here.

(cough)

Wilber ~ I think Pelosi should either get on board with Kucinich or resign. Hmmm... didn't they all take some kinda oath or somethin . . .

Phil #38

Erma, I understand your frustration. But I think we have all had enough doom and gloom, it's got to be a positive message sent, to whoever you send it...Defeatist attitudes need to stop.

My earlier comment had nothing whatsoever to do with sending any message to anyone outside this blog.

"Doom and gloom?" "Defeatist?"

Oh, here we go.

Oh yes why not, drag out the "Doom and gloom" and "Defeatist" propaganda. I've heard this propaganda/spin since 2000 mainly from the loony wishful-thinking Dem koolaid drinkers who jump up and down with premature ejaculation celebration every single time there's some little flash in the pan that happens politically. They start celebrating (prematurely) because they are convinced that whatever is happening at the time is what they've been waiting for. Then what? What they were previously jumping up and down about with their premature celebration just dies (because the useless Dems are not about to do anything when it comes to Bush/Cheney).

I've been called "Doom and gloom" and "Defeatist" since 2000. It just rolls off my back. I tell it like it is which some people can't stand to hear because it collides with their grandiose wishful-thinking.

I could cook up a nicey-nice, "up," "positive" wishful-thinking, pie-in-the-sky scenario of how Traitor Pelosi and others are going to immediately begin impeachment hearings and the entire Bush Crime Family will end up in prison tomorrow. You'll see. No question about it.

But I can't do that because I know that's bull shit. I know that's not the reality. Nothing is going to happen to these people and you can call that "doom and gloom" and "defeatist" all you want...go ahead and live with your illusions and delusions.

The Dems are not going to impeach two of their "own" people. They are not going to impeach the very people they have been enabling since 2000 and have been complicit with because they would implicate themselves in any impeachment hearings. Why can people not understand this? Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Answer: Because you don't want to. You don't want to accept the reality that the Dems are not who and what you think they are and want them to be. They work for the Bush regime and have since 2000.

An article from this morning:

Jonathan Turley: Democrats are protecting Bush from impeachment: scholar

Law professor and constitutional law expert Jonathan Turley says that America's founders "would have been astonished by the absolute passivity, if not the collusion, of the Democrats in protecting President [sic] Bush from impeachment."

http://rawstory.com/news...nt_Its_time_to_0610.html

Well, at least the vote this afternoon resulted in the Articles being sent to the Judiciary committee. I understand there's more support for this resolution. Maybe the timing is right..?

Phil,

I re-read your lecture to people of what people must "Be"...

We can change this problem, but not if we keep thinking we are powerless before we even start to fight. In that respect, be respectful, but be stern, Be diligent, Be effective, Be honorable, Be honest.

Frankly, I think most people on here are intelligent enough to figure this stuff out on their own, if they want to contact these Traitors in congress. From my experience since 2000, I have found that it does not matter one bit how one approaches these scum in congress or how one says it. I have tried the little delicate wet-doily ass-eating approach. That did nothing. After while, I started getting pissed off and I let them know that. That did nothing either. Because they don't care what "we" think.

So people can write, phone, fax, e-mail or visit the Bush-enabling scum in congress---and get arrested?...like Cindy Sheehan did in John Conyers' office---and refer to these Traitors as "Your Worship" and "Your Honorable" and "Your Excellency" and all this other ass-eating nonsense, but unless you are the head of Bechtel, Halliburton, or some other military-industrial complex corporation or some other type of corporation, they won't give a damn what you or I think. Period. Which is why things have only gotten worse since 2000 despite We The People's efforts to contact them and let them know what "we" think.

This fraud in the White House has a popularity rating of---last time I heard---less than 20%. And the status quo continues regardless of that. If the Bush-enabling scum in congress truly cared what We The People think/thought (based on the less than 20% who support this fraud), the status quo would NOT continue. And despite We The People contacting these Traitors in congress since 2000 it's only gotten worse with every passing day since. Because they don't care what "we" think. The congress listens to the corporations and the war industry. Not "We The People." We do not matter to the "Bourgeois Elite"/Establishment. Oh, they will occasionally (for show) throw some pabulum/window dressing stuff at us to give the impression they're working for us. This is no longer a government of "We The People." Those days ended in 2000, if not before. This is a government "Of, By and For the Corporations" and that's who these useless and worthless Traitors to the US Constitution listen to and work for.

And this is another reason why "impeachment is off the table" and will remain "off the table."

Holy crap! This is a great argument. See link.

http://www.dailykos.com/...10/123917/099/558/533385

The basic argument is: Under the house rules Pelosi is required to recuse herself on the issue of impeachment since she had previously undisclosed knowledge of some of Bush's crimes and thus has reason to see that they are not made public.

Please keep the creatin busy with impeachment proceedings so he won't bomb another country. We have enough blood on our hands! Forget MSM - they had 8 years - forgettem! We are the MSM!!!

I guess my signing of the petition worked - I got an email confirmation. 14,000 have signed so far.
C'mon, people!

I was talking with a friend earlier today and we talked a little bit about this stuff. I told her someone dragged out the predictable "doom and gloom and defeatist" propaganda and aimed it at me earlier today. She let out this big "ooooooooooooh yeah, I get that stuff all the time. I usually tell them: If you want to see doom and gloom, look at the Dems' pathetic yes-Bush voting record since 2000, then come and talk to me about doom and gloom."

Right-on.

And then she said, "Exactly what have the Dems done since 2000 other than raising the minimum wage a tad?" I then said "well they helped put Alito and Roberts on the bench and other right-wing scum."

She continued on by saying "The only argument the koolaid drinkers have is the Supreme Court argument but then we see whom the Dems helped to put on the Supreme Court (Alito and Roberts) by not filibustering like they said they would. It's all the same rats nest regardless of the letter behind the candidates' name. SCUM."

My friend really knows how to tell it like it is.

It's really a drag when the TRUTH hurts, isn't it?

I could not have possibly said it better myself Erma, I feel like you are channeling my exact thoughts verbatim.

So when do you think the democratically enabled Bush Crime Family is going to attack Iran while we all sit here like idiots and watch?