Is that Gardner ?

He looks like a thirty-third degree to me, all that's missing is the ribbon around his neck

Keep at it Brad; it leads one to beleive that politicians are more interested in cya than having ethics.

It's time for the State of New Hampshire to hear from YOU. Call the Secretary of State TODAY. Here is the number: 603-271-3242. I just called them myself. I told them to stop whining and making up lame excuses and just count the FU_ _ ING votes. They need to hear from you,too. Right now! This nonsense has got to stop.

Don't be afraid. Just pick up the phone right now. It will make you feel much better, I promise.

With our votes being the only thing standing between all the criminals in our government and a real new directon, one would think people would want all the facts about our elections before letting anyone tell them every thing is just fine. What the hell is wrong with Americans?

...and then Kucinich drops out of the race
What the hell?

Pat1 #5

I noticed that too, so as far as the prez race and Kucinich, it is moot.

What is not moot is the pathetic state of affairs in NH electioneering.

The Danse Macabre of US-Style Democracy
by John Pilger
What struck me, living and working in the United States, was that presidential campaigns were a parody, entertaining and often grotesque. They are a ritual danse macabre of flags, balloons and bullsh*t, designed to camouflage a venal system based on money power, human division and a culture of permanent war.
Traveling with Robert Kennedy in 1968 was eye-opening for me. To audiences of the poor, Kennedy would present himself as a savior. The words "change" and "hope" were used relentlessly and cynically. For audiences of fearful whites, he would use racist codes, such as "law and order." With those opposed to the invasion of Vietnam, he would attack "putting American boys in the line of fire," but never say when he would withdraw them. That year (after Kennedy was assassinated), Richard Nixon used a version of the same, malleable speech to win the presidency. Thereafter, it was used successfully by Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton and the two Bushes. Carter promised a foreign policy based on "human rights" – and practiced the very opposite. Reagan’s "freedom agenda" was a bloodbath in Central America. Clinton "solemnly pledged" universal health care and tore down the last safety net of the Depression.
Nothing has changed. Barack Obama is a glossy Uncle Tom who would bomb Pakistan. Hillary Clinton, another bomber, is anti-feminist. John McCain’s one distinction is that he has personally bombed a country. They all believe the US is not subject to the rules of human behavior, because it is "a city upon a hill," regardless that most of humanity sees it as a monumental bully which, since 1945, has overthrown 50 governments, many of them democracies, and bombed 30 nations, destroying millions of lives.
If you wonder why this holocaust is not an "issue" in the current campaign, you might ask the BBC, which is responsible for reporting the campaign to much of the world, or better still Justin Webb, the BBC’s North America editor. In a Radio 4 series last year, Webb displayed the kind of sycophancy that evokes the 1930s appeaser Geoffrey Dawson, then editor of the London Times. Condoleezza Rice cannot be too mendacious for Webb. According to Rice, the US is "supporting the democratic aspirations of all people." For Webb, who believes American patriotism "creates a feeling of happiness and solidity," the crimes committed in the name of this patriotism, such as support for war and injustice in the Middle East for the past 25 years, and in Latin America, are irrelevant. Indeed, those who resist such an epic assault on democracy are guilty of "anti-Americanism," says Webb, apparently unaware of the totalitarian origins of this term of abuse. Journalists in Nazi Berlin would damn critics of the Reich as "anti-German."
Moreover, his treacle about the "ideals" and "core values" that make up America’s sanctified "set of ideas about human conduct" denies us a true sense of the destruction of American democracy: the dismantling of the Bill of Rights, habeas corpus and separation of powers. Here is Webb on the campaign trail: "[This] is not about mass politics. It is a celebration of the one-to-one relationship between an individual American and his or her putative commander-in-chief." He calls this "dizzying." And Webb on Bush: "Let us not forget that while the candidates win, lose, win again . . . there is a world to be run and President Bush is still running it." The emphasis in the BBC text actually links to the White House website.
None of this drivel is journalism. It is anti-journalism, worthy of a minor courtier of a great power. Webb is not exceptional. His boss Helen Boaden, director of BBC News, sent this reply to a viewer who had protested the prevalence of propaganda as the basis of news: "It is simply a fact that Bush has tried to export democracy [to Iraq] and that this has been troublesome."
And her source for this "fact"? Quotations from Bush and Blair saying it is a fact.
http://www.antiwar.com/pilger/?articleid=12251

...that just got me thinking...any TV/Newspaper coverage of Kucinich is gone. One of the only two men that actually speak the truth, and one of them is put on the back burner. How much coverage will he get when he introduces impeachment articles?

kucinich has dropped out, fuckwit...you're gonna have to find another horse to flog

This was obviously rigged! I've been waitng all day to comment on this. Look at the other media oulets that are covering this. Most are saying that the recount ended volantarily as opposed to it ran out of funds. They also don't mention the republican recount as well and Gardner seems to be going along with this pasting over of the facts. Let's be real here. These people got caught! Yet they dont want to change the results. Missing memory cards, disparities of votes as high as 10%. Bill Gardner is obviously part of the democratic establishment that want Hillary as the nominee. It's obvious. This just proves there was something foul that happened on primary night in New Hamphshire, and makes Hillary Clinton's "win" all the more dubious and suspect. Keep up the good work Brad. I was waiting to see what the response would be from New Hampshire and I got my answer. This will not go away and I hope it backfires on them.

So now that Dennis dropped out, is the request to recount all the votes a dead issue?

{ED NOTE: No. --- BF}

Kucinich better pursue this regardless if he is in the race or not. One more thing: The daily Kos is reporting this as though it's actually over. No problems in the recount. Taking Bill Gardner's line verbatim. When certain Blogs become no different than the mush we get from NBC,ABC,CBS, it's over for them.

Pat D #7

They all believe the US is not subject to the rules of human behavior, because it is "a city upon a hill," regardless that most of humanity sees it as a monumental bully which, since 1945, has overthrown 50 governments, many of them democracies, and bombed 30 nations, destroying millions of lives.

That is Amurka for sure, but do not forget that we have all gone to look for America.

How quaint?

From the Baltimore Sun:

New Hampshire recount results

Hmmm..check out the last line:

Anyone in New Hampshire today can check out the recount, in person, at the State Archives and Records Management Building in Concord.

I wonder what they mean by "check out"?

Pat Driscoll #7, Pilger is sooooooo right on! I've watched him on Link TV and couldn't agree more with him!

Brad Man,

... NH Sec. of State "appears to lie" ... do you mean he showed up just to lie, or that it seems that he was lying? ...

I think his Butch Cassidy Custody and the Sundance Hoppy Kid thingy is a lie, in the sense that it is supposed to be a chain of custody but in reality is instead a shame of custody.

{ED NOTE: Inappropriate comment deleted. --- BF}

Quirky little troll. Can't you ban IP's here? Or better yet, post his IP and I'll see if my friends over at NewOrder can work some magic on his PC.

Report: Kucinich to drop out of race (@@%##@#%## it!) Yeah, just great. So much for a full NH recount. These so-called elections are a sham.

Comment #19: As far as I understand it, Kucinich dropping out of the race does not stop him from going on with the New Hampshire issue. AS with Albert Howard, he was on the ballot in NH. And the letter that has been sent to Gardner, even if Gardner seems not to know what was in the letter, shows that he intends to move forward with this...I think.

The reason he dropped out of the presidential race is because he has a real challenge in his own district in the primary coming up soon.

Fascinating report. From the look of things Gardner is lying because he is pinhead. Which is something we already knew. Nice to know that like Cathy Cox and the genious SOS from Ohio his political career has now probably come to an abrupt end. One thing SOSs ought to realise is that voters like their SOSs to take voting seriously.

Anyway.... Looking at

http://anonymouse.org/cg...h.gov/recountresults.htm

(An aside: I can't hit that page from NZ without going through a proxy. Go figure. It has been that way since this process began on the night of the election. The only other site I can recall with this strange approach to foreign censorship was the GWbush2004 campaign website.)

...one of the things that occurs to me after looking at it is this.... why are machines involved in this process at all? They are completely unnecessary. The biggest precinct is 2500 ballots. How long did we have to wait for the results on election night? These LHS/Diebold morans are not only expensive and crap they are also slow.

In the case of this primary the ballots were unusually simple. Why pay LHS, diebold and their minions thousands of dollars to do something that the state/county can probably do for next to nothing with volunteers.

Perhaps Brad when Mr Gardner rings you back you might like to ask him how much he has paid LHS for the primary and for advice/services in relation to the recount?

Money down the toilet all of it.

alastair thompson
Scoop.co.nz

The only good thing about Dennis dropping out is at we can now give him all the funds he'll need to count every last vote in the state. No pesky contribution limit anymore.
God, my computer has slowed down so much, they must be getting a feed at every one of the two hundred or so intelligence agencies in the country.

Yeah, just great. So much for a full NH recount. These so-called elections are a sham.

No one is more personally disappointed in Gardner than me. I really, REALLY wanted him to be one of the good guys.

But he's not. He delegates and then claims he doesn't know; he fails in his fiduciary duty by failing to act when he learns of product defects; he claims not to know even who is responsible for what, at least as far as who is responsible for making sure that the "seals" are seals, not postits.

I think his role is that of schmoozer and public relations. I was haunted for hours by his demeanor and the expression on his face, on the night he chose not to put the ballots in the vault. I was so troubled by this that I slapped together a 6-minute video which includes the scene. Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKQEQ7qHvgM on youtube.

I try not to speculate about people's motivations or emotions, but I would be interested in your take on what we are seeing on Bill Gardner's face in this video.

Are American presidents still going to be preaching democracy to other countries? If so, that would be total hypocrisy, and a pointless exercise. The entire world knows what a sham American elections are.

Bev, I'm from NH so I can give you some feedback.

Answers about the recount: $1.00

Correct answers about the recount:$2.00

Dumb looks: Still Free

Thanks Bev, for your work. SOS Gardner's face looks like consternation to me. This whole debacle just shows that elections are a farce . I live in Maine and won't even vote in Nov.

Bev Harris #24 asked:

I would be interested in your take on what we are seeing on Bill Gardner's face in this video.

I watched the video where you supplied a bona fide proof of concept, when you took a new seal, placed it on the walmart cardboard "ballot box", then repeatedly pulled it off and put it back on without leaving a trace.

Good Job. Those pictures are worth a million words.

Anyway, to answer your question, Gardner had the look of a "worried man with a worried mind" who was way over his head in terms of knowing security issues.

And he gave no valid answer as to why the ballots were being left out of the vault that nite.

The election in NH is a farce. Stalin would be proud to say of NH, welcome to my world because "the voters decide nothing, those who supply and count the votes decide everything."

Don't know if anyone is still on this thread, but NPR just did a story about voting mchines. It was the usual NH is great because of paper trail, while only paperless is to worry about. They mentioned Kucinich, and accepted the ideas that the recount is over. This was about 9:20 east cooast time.

They are really trying to cover this up, hoping it will go away. But think about it: the democratic establishment using the same tactics the republicans used in Florida 2000(Gore vs. Bush) as if they want a full accounting of the votes then pull the plug at the end. Don't expect voters to vote democrat if they are no different than republicans. You can't cry foul if you're using the same dirty tactics as you're opposition.

Question---how many of you don't mind id your voting is made public?
Now,want democracy? All voters results and name be public info
And all income tax submissioons be made public
Did you know that most politicians after 1 1/2 terms become multiu-millionair$ ?
Too FKN stupid--what is the big deal if some-one wants to know who I voted for or how much I claimed for income tax dediction. Wake-up fools!

I couldn't get sound outta Bev's Black Box vidio. Was it not supposed to have any, or what?

The definately has a "worried mind."

shw

Bev Harris asked

"I try not to speculate about people's motivations or emotions, but I would be interested in your take on what we are seeing on Bill Gardner's face in this video."

Bev he looks very worried, as he should be! It was my husband and I who staked out the State Achieves building that night because you were concerned that some hanky panky would occur--understandably so after watching this video! Nothing happened while we were there. But, this does not excuse this gross dereliction of duty.

It appears that investigative journalists in the state have come up limp too with regards to reporting with any accurately. It makes me sick to my stomach to watch this continue. Thank you Bev and Brad for all that you have done to bring the truth out!

Thank you, Donna! Did you notice if there happened to be a large white truck in the parking lot with a license plate number that just said "CASH" --- a handicapped plate?

I saw driver Butch in that truck at one point. I would like to know who owns it. If someone has a connect that can run plates, and email me privately what you learn about the owner of the "CASH" truck, I'd appreciate it.

By "handicapped plate" I mean it has an emblem of a wheelchair next to the license plate number "CASH"

It's kind of a monster white truck with a row of lights across the top of the cab.

Don't post anyone's personal information here! Send it by email to me or Brad Friedman.

Bev, maybe it's just a handicapped guy who likes Johnny Cash

Also, did you lift up Gardners coat to see if he had any clothes on under it ?, talk about the cat getting caught eating the canary, LMAO

No truck in the parking lot that evening. It was three mid-size cars-- one was white, the one next to it was a dark green or blue and a silver one parked on the side where the dumpster was. We physically drove in the back area where the parked cars were and each of those cars had state license plates.

It was snowing that night and there were no footprints near the loading dock nor the back door. When we drove around the front no fresh footprints either.

Only one other car drove around there and we suspected it was another observer because he stayed in the area where the parked cars were and never got out--we figured he was writing down license plate numbers. He drove around the front for about five minutes or so then left. He was driving a dark colored mid-sized car as well.

JoJo, you don't go "public" with that stuff for the same reason the "show of hands" ploy is a joke.. People behave differently when they know they are watched..

Also, you have nut jobs out there.. Say someone is really really pissed with someone who ends up in office.. but can't do anything to that person. So, they get the list and start killing anyone that voted for that official.. or say your boss -really- likes someone, so they see how their employees voted and dump anyone that didn't vote for HIS guy? ... all these can happen, and would have a VERY chilling effect on elections.

The Founding Fathers were smart. Very smart. Unless you're a genius, you shouldn't be questioning things they've put in place. They all put their lives on the line to build a great nation, they aren't the ones that need to be scrutinized.. Look at those that killed them for starting this great nation.. look at the kinds of people that are rigging the system now.. scrutinize THOSE people, and understand that the things they suggest to fix things are probably actually meant to destroy it instead.. Good example, No Child Left Behind..... meant to bring us away from science and critical thinking, designed to set a final, unreachable bar that eventually removes -all- federal funding. .. gamed from the start, in pretty words, designed to make you think one thing, but do another. and the ruling elite are the ones that benefit from a dull population. You can't exploit those that can see you're exploiting them, ignorance isn't bliss, it's enslaved.

Much thanks to Bev Harris and Brad Friedman for the patriotic work they are doing to try to reinstate democracy in America. Democracy is indeed dead when votes are being compiled rather than counted.

Any suggestions as to what to do come primary or election day if your state/country is forcing you to "vote" on vote-stealing machines? Maybe if more people stand outside polling places (beyond the campaign proximity limit) with signs that say "Live Free or Diebold" or some such, than actually vote, a statement will be made that resonates to the clueless and complicit.

I'm approaching "fold up and go into turtle" mode and need a booster shot.

""I try not to speculate about people's motivations or emotions, but I would be interested in your take on what we are seeing on Bill Gardner's face in this video.""

Bev,
...he looks angry, like he wants to scream at you "shut up you f***ing b***h and leave us alone". He also looks guilty, probably because he is lying by omission - the failure to immediately answer (even if wrong or not satisfactorily) your repeated question "Why aren't the ballots in the ballot vault tonight?" is even more damaging than not putting the ballots in the ballot vault. I think this shows he is not a good liar, any politician would have answered your questions, quite possibly with a different answer every time, most likely with lies, but they would have answered you. An honest person would have answered you. Only a dishonest man who is incompetent at lying would refuse to answer that question in that situation.

He obviously doesn't want to deal with you any more... I think he might be a bit nervous. The look his face is eerie/disturbing...as if he's pretending he's not there and you are not there and this isn't going on and in a little while you will go away and leave him alone. Also reminds me of corporate cons dodging reporters questions. Maybe he's only guilty of incompetence and covering his ass incompetently...which is still completely not acceptable

Go Bev Harris!

"The Founding Fathers were smart. Very smart. Unless you're a genius, you shouldn't be questioning things they've put in place. "

That is the fallacy of authority. The Founding Fathers were often very wrong. It doesn't take a genius to question the legality and morality of slavery to pick one easy example.

Question authority. Each individual must use their own ability to reason and substitute no other source for their own ability to reason. No person is always right, including the founding fathers.

"That is the fallacy of authority. The Founding Fathers were often very wrong. It doesn't take a genius to question the legality and morality of slavery to pick one easy example."

I'm not saying people shouldn't question authority.. nor am I saying anyone is infallible.. But, I don't think the average joe, many of whom don't know how many States are in the United States of America, should be questioning the men and ideas that have persisted for hundreds of years and were clearly ahead of their time when created.

I guess I'm saying people should think before they speak, especially when saying something counter to conventional wisdom. If you're in doubt, ask questions, get more ideas.. but don't proclaim a "solution" that would be dismissed by the simplest of parsing with logic and/or reason.

And the legality of ownership of another human has nothing to do with the morality of it. In fact, law has nothing to do with morality at all, it just happens that a lot of times there's a morality that can be seen in justifying a certain law. The one is not dependent on the other.

You damn straight that you have to question authority.
Without the help of a few witless, angry souls, we wouldn't even have what we have now.

Read this or forever be unaware

@: COMMENT #36 Floridiot
I'd say the LYING SoS (SoB) looks more like he just got caught in the headlights, with his pants down.... masturbating.

Thanks, Bev - That is one TELLING video!
Thanks Brad and Bev, for your diligence & persistence!

"We The People" *MUST PREVAIL* in all of this!
If we don't, our "life" will quickly become absolutely unbearable!

WATCH THE VIDEO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKQEQ7qHvgM

Bev, I thought Mr Gardner had the same look my son would have when he was a teen and I would ask "Who is calling those 1-900 numbers!"

WATCH BILL GRADNER ON THIS YOUTUBE VID CAUGHT WITH HIS HAND IN THE COOKIE JAR!!!

*SHOCKING*

Section: Voter fraud!

Question: Why isnt the MSM following this story??

CLICK HERE-------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKQEQ7qHvgM

The NH SoS is acting like most public officials with responsibility for overseeing elections. They seem to truly believe that they actually have control over e-voting machines and blind faith that these machines count votes accurately. They need to wake up to the fact that if these machines fail to accurately tabulate votes, it is probably not their fault, for it is too easy for e-voting machines to be covertly hacked without the knowledge of honest election officials. The significant machine errors encountered so far in the limited recounts are sufficient to trigger a hand-eye count of all ballots cast in the NH primary election. I believe that it would be irresponsible for SoS not to do so.

I have been a CPA for close to 35 years always working in public accounting. I know to count and take no offense to the term "bean counter". If I take my knowledge of Michigan elections and apply it to New Hampshire, they stold the vote and nobody in government seems to care. I was on three different recount groups after the 2006 election, and because we are not allowed to see or audit the ballots in Michigan, I was counting our SOS's race without permission. In the 4 precincts I did, the ballot totals were 3 to 5.5% less than what the machines gave our SOS. I testified before the State Senate Committee on Elections with this and other damaging evidence and absolutely nothing was done about it.

Government officials selling nukes on the black market ay? Nothing alarming about that... everything's just fine... I'm sure...

http://nasathermalimages.com

I'd like to take this opportunity to remind everyone treason is a capital offense.

I just found this site by googling voter fraud. I've been waiting to hear something on my tv about the recount. I'm in NH. I happened to go to wmur tv web page in NH and found an article tonight stating the recount was stopped at 40% because Dennis ran out of funds. This is a NEW article. So now I read here the recount was done and Dennis is satisfied? Something does NOT add up here. If the SOS is crooked, and the counters are crooked... who does one turn to for the truth? I'm ready to blow a gasket over this!