READER COMMENTS ON
"VIDEO - Welcome Tony Snow as New White House Press Secretary"
(53 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 4/26/2006 @ 6:40 am PT...
Ah sweet transition ... from a Snottie job to a Snow job ... what's next ... a Gannon Glow job?
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Pat
said on 4/26/2006 @ 6:56 am PT...
Tony Snow at the White Housevalidates; garbage in garbage out.
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Mike J.
said on 4/26/2006 @ 7:14 am PT...
David Edwards is factual but nice in this blog entry and listing Tony's disagreements with the President in the past. Tony has said that it's in the public record and he has no problem with the statements.
Nothing but hate from the first two posters (as I type this). I won't be suprised to see much more....
I have been a fan of Tony Snow for over 10 years. I think that he will do great at this job. I am suprised that he took the job since he has a successful radio show and this job will mean a big pay cut for him. But it just goes to show you that for some people, country matters more than money. When his country called, he could not say no. He had to check with his doctor as he is recovering from colon cancer.
Maybe you people do not like him because you fear that he will be quite successful against your buddies in the WH press corps!
Please consider this: Tony has proven with his disagreements that he is not a "yes man" for this administration. Yet, Pres.Bush picked him anyway. So this proves that Pres.Bush does listen to those who disagree with him.
Also if Pres.Bush had choosen someone who always agreed with him, then you guys here would be the first to say, "see he's choosing a yes man".
Here is another picture for you!
Have a nice day!
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Martin
said on 4/26/2006 @ 7:35 am PT...
A fair Blog for certain.
The liberals here are so full of hate they would accept nothing less then Al Franken in this position.
Actually they would probably disown him in a second. The truth is, it really doesnt matter what Bush does, they will hate it all the same.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 4/26/2006 @ 8:08 am PT...
Mike J, Martin #2, #4
What I hate is rank, see-thu, and blatant propaganda. Especially when paid for by my tax dollars.
I do not like my tax dollars being stolen and given to oil barons even while they are raising my gasoline costs as they fondle themselves on the way to the bank.
What the president should go for is cars that run on kool aid ... and call it the goper. And for trucks have them run on BS gas ... you guys would be able to keep them running until 5% "popularity".
Why do you wingnuts hate the majority of Americans and support the fascist republican dictatorship?
Stop government lying ... vote the fascists out in November ...
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Monte Janssen
said on 4/26/2006 @ 8:19 am PT...
I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But once he learns of all the true B.S. going on behind the scenes, and finds the job is 90% damage control, and 10% getting the President's views across to reporters, I say he'll resign by this time next year. PS. I thought Dan Senor was the smarter choice
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chicago dyke
said on 4/26/2006 @ 8:30 am PT...
bush is hoping that the press corps will go lightly on one of their own. (if he can be called that) he's counting on tony's popularity with his sizable winger audience. big surprise that they'd do that-not- given the only hope they have of getting the poll numbers back up to the point where stealing another election is easy will come by winning back the wingnuts currently angry at bush over gas prices.
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 4/26/2006 @ 8:58 am PT...
Before lavishing too much praise on Bush for choosing someone who has criticized him in the past, consider two possibilities:
1) They couldn't find anyone in the entire universe who was qualified and also had never criticized Bush.
2) Snow's references to Bush being "impotent" can now be portrayed as a failure of communication (thus the change), and his references to the budget being out of control can now be blamed on Democrats, not the war in Iraq (Fox Network will coooperate with this line all the way).
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Crushman
said on 4/26/2006 @ 9:10 am PT...
:laugh: This is just another inappropriate posting to a white house position. Think of any Supreme Court nomination as an example. Also Snow is used to being able to say what he wants and when he wants. Having his lines scripted ahead of time is going to put him in a position he doesn't want to be.
What does anyone think he'll do once he espouses a line to his buddies in the press on what they told him was happening and when he finds out its the exact opposite? He's going to flip! Then he'll fake a reason for resignation and go back on to Faux News.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Michael
said on 4/26/2006 @ 9:51 am PT...
I'm happy to see Senor Snow take the podium. He's real good at tossing out his BS on the airwaves and stiffling any opposing views. Let's see how he handles himself on national view when he has to actually keep a straight face when throwing out his BS responses.
I agree that he'll probably wonder just what the hell he got himself into after his first encounter with the WH Press Corp. His cute photos of 10 yrs ago aren't going to make him look so sharp when the strain of lie and double-lie start taking their toll on his pompy character. I'm very happy the snowjob got called to the White House. Now he can get the spanking he's deserved for all these years of being such a pompous asshole.
Good luck Tony. You are the last hope. Can you make 2+2=7?
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gtash
said on 4/26/2006 @ 10:13 am PT...
I suspect Snow was selected only because has nominal standing as a journalist and that is supposed to lull the Press Corps into resuming its supine relationship with this Administration.
I don't care at all about Snow. I want to see if the Press Corps is so stupid as to fall for this.
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anonymous
said on 4/26/2006 @ 10:25 am PT...
I wonder how someone with the kind of ego that "newscasters" acquire will react as a mouthpiece. Should be interesting to watch. Should we perhaps expect some intersting gaffs?
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Ricky
said on 4/26/2006 @ 10:34 am PT...
Dear Dredd,
Try winning an election before you claim the will of the people on your side. The reason the Reps are in charge is because Americans put them there. In Nov, you will again learn the will of America.
In other news...
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1aa.htm
Brad will probably delete this post like he always does when Air America's ass isnt kissed.
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 4/26/2006 @ 11:19 am PT...
The Americans who put the Republicans in charge beginning in 2000 are people you've never met, Ricky, and never will meet. I haven't met them either, nor has Brad Friedman.
They are computer hackers operating behind the scenes in Florida, Ohio, and other battleground states. A few bad guys have been caught...Tobin in New Hampshire for jamming phone lines, Noe in Ohio for running a crooked coin game with the Workmen's Comp. board and funnelling money to the Republican party, and dirty tricksters in Texas, Wisconsin, Nevada, Oregon, Iowa, Washington state, Pennsylvania, and Indiana.
But when the central tabulators were rigged to flip votes from Kerry to Bush, nobody was around to see it being done. Maybe it was someone posing as a computer repairman. Probably it was done under cover of some legitimate activity, e.g., "preparing the machine for service" or "fixing errors." The point is, Ricky...these folks are smarter than both of us, and more sinister by far.
If you meet one of these guys, I'd advise you not to let on that you know what he's cone. You might wind up where Ray Lemme did.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Ricky
said on 4/26/2006 @ 11:31 am PT...
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 4/26/2006 @ 12:53 pm PT...
Speaking of celebrities!
Markos Moulitsas Zuniga of the very successful blog, The Daily KOS was in town today promoting his book about democratic grassroots and the internet called “Crashing The Gate” This book claims to be the route to a new “people-powered politics” to replace an “ineffective, incompetent, and antiquated” Democratic party. The book accurately discribes many of the issues we face.
As a big supporter of Howard Dean in the last election, I was very interested in seeing what ideas were being espoused by an active member of the Democratic internet movement. I stood in line with the book I had just purchased and when it was my turn to talk to Mr. Moulitsas, I told him congratulations on the tremendous success of his web site.
We shook hands as I asked him to be sure and cover the voting machine issue on his website this year. He seemed to want to downplay the danger of the machines saying that they didn’t really need Diebold because they had other ways of causing problems. Since he has a law degree, I think he only wanted to touch on the problems that have already been widely proven. I don’t know if he had heard of the Diebold lawsuits, but sensing his discomfort with the topic, I had my book signed and moved on. I knew I would still probably have a chance to ask him something in front of the audience.
Because Mr. Moulitsas is such a hot topic these days, it was good of him to show up in our red Utah neighborhood. Other then outwardly chastising Senator Leiberman (a big crowd pleaser), and a couple of profanities during the speech, his demeanor seemed to please the crowd for the most part, but for me things went downhill pretty fast!
I don’t think Karl Rove could have done a better job of making the Republican party look strong, by repeatedly saying that Republicans have the ability to motivate, inspire, “hit them in the heart” and get them out to the polls, while Democrats are ineffective, uninterested, unlikely to vote, and for lack of a better word in the body of this message, doomed! He even said that he didn’t sense there was any way Democrats could win in 2006, or even 2008. Apparently we’re going to “Crash The Gate” VERY SLOWLY!
Early in the presentation, Moulitsas repeatedly said that despite the fact that people did not like George Bush and did not think the country was headed in the right direction, Democrats still lost. Finally, an audience member said “Kerry won” to which Moulitsas rolled his eyes and exaggeratedly and said “yeah right!” The chuckling died down quickley and I added my terse and unlawyerly “he did”. Agreement from this audience to either position could not be discerned.
I don’t know about you other Democrats out there, but I have to try, real hard, not to RAPTURE whenever somebody says the Democrats are going to have to work a lot harder if we ever want to WIN an election!
Calm down Larry.
The Democrats haven’t lost a presidential election since 1992. There, I said it!
The Democrats haven’t lost a presidential election since 1992. There, I said it again!
Mark Crispen Miller, (author of “Fooled Again”) is right. It’s not that you can’t prove the election WAS stolen, It’s that you can’t prove it WASN’T stolen. According to Miller, someone of stature will shortly come to the rescue of my credibility!
Of course it’s impossible to prove that an election has been stolen on a machine that only has to be unplugged to destroy the evidence. What CAN be proven though is that almost every election official in the United States is actively working to make sure that evidence will not be available. That’s the story here! Get on it journalists, I’m just an Optician!
When it was my turn to ask a question I offered “Why do you think the exit polls in Keiv Russia work so much better then they do in the United States?” His ready answer was “it’s a methodology issue”
Pause......
Gee, Edison/Mitofsky, that was some shoddy work there in 2004! I wouldn’t take that if I were you! Stand up and fight!
Mr. Moulitsas, for the sake of argument, lets agree that not one vote was stolen using a voting machine programmed to do that. It’s obvious that just about every method imaginable WAS used. If you are going to place your movement at the forefront of Democratic election success, you have got to place election fraud information at the center of your strategy. I categorically disagree with your pronouncement that Democrats aren’t working hard enough! I do agree that they are becoming less motivated!
As for myself, excuse me, but I have to drive an ice pick into my thigh (Comic relief imagery courtesy Mike Malloy (Air America Radio) who also coined this word that I hope the Democrats never have to use again!)
Anticipointment.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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bluebear 2
said on 4/26/2006 @ 1:13 pm PT...
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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bvac
said on 4/26/2006 @ 4:09 pm PT...
This is wonderful news for the Bush administration. A new face to say the same stuff the last two mouthpieces said in a new voice... just what America needs in these uncertain times. I expect his poll numbers to climb up to 34%, maybe even 35% in a matter of months!
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Banned Paul
said on 4/26/2006 @ 4:35 pm PT...
> Snow is probably one of the more mature right-wing pundits. He has often been very critical of President Bush
I love the way this gets reported by the drive-by media and liberals. Rush and Hannity have also been critical of the president because they are conservatives first. They have criticized Bush for:
1. Ted Kennedy's "No Child Left Behind" Education Bill which left out School Choice (something poor families and African-Americans want)
2. Uncontrolled spending
3. The border (Hannity)
4. Harriet Myers nomination
5. Dubai Ports World (Hannity)
I had no problem with #5. I took Rush's side on that one. My father-in-law loves that city. 250,000 Muslims with 3 million people total. Lots of fine ladies from other countries - "love you long time!"
I miss Scott McClellan because my great grandmother on my mom's mother's side was Lucy Ann McClellan.
Congress is hated more than the president and everyone likes their congressperson so I see the House and Senate still in Republican hands in Nov. 2006. Good luck libs!
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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Truth Seeker
said on 4/26/2006 @ 5:43 pm PT...
Snow cannot be worse than McClellan. For a White House that has no respect for the non-FOX press, some info is better than the zero from Puffy.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Miss P.
said on 4/26/2006 @ 5:46 pm PT...
Let's see:
Snow was Bush I speechwriter;
Bush said, "Snow said may have said [yadda yadda] but you should hear what I said about the other guy;"
"Impotent" is by far an understatement;
One assumes Snow has some connections at Faux News?
From some of the posts here we're getting a pretty good grip on who those 32% are --- clearly Bush is scraping the bottom of the barrel.
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 4/26/2006 @ 5:49 pm PT...
Snow me once shame on you.
Snow me twice shame on me.
WE Don'T Get snow-ed Again. . . . .
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 4/26/2006 @ 6:25 pm PT...
Is anyone realizing, how this is just another nail in the coffin, for the ever-growing anti-Republican backlash, coming down the tracks? Just keep doing assinine things, like hiring ex-FOX News employees for press secretary. Just keep pounding those nails into your coffin.
Get this straight, this is a liberal country. There's more liberals than conservatives, and you are alienating the majority of Americans by doing things like this. Mr. Bush: What is the PR for reaching out to the majority of liberal Americans, by hiring someone from FOX News??? You must be a lunatic. More divisiveness, insteading reaching out to the other side. Just keep it up, keep pounding those nails into the GOP coffin, by not being moderate and reaching out to the other Americans.
This is exactly why there is an ever-growing attack on the GOP. They do NOTHING for moderate & liberal Americans, who make up the majority of this country. It is a recipe for disaster for the Republican party. Independents are now anti-Republican, when they hear things like Bush hires someone from FOX News. It's actually good for us, bad for Republicans.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 4/26/2006 @ 6:30 pm PT...
Mike J; What if Clinton hired Dan Rather for press secretary??? What would you be saying??? BULLSHIT!
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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Miss P.
said on 4/26/2006 @ 7:01 pm PT...
Quote from AMERICAblog:
"But Tony Snow lied about the fact that The Swift Boat Story had been refuted. I think the Press should just ask him about his own actions for the first week.........Look!"
http://mediamatters.org/items/20...ms/ 200409170011 Darren 04.25.06 - 4:16 pm #
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 4/26/2006 @ 8:50 pm PT...
I don't believe a word he said . . . . . Has he said anything Yet ? ? ?
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 4/26/2006 @ 9:04 pm PT...
Larry Bergan - Thanks for that detailed report on your meetings with Kos! Unfortunately, it seems, Markos doesn't yet get it. Thanks for trying to help him understand what's going on. And thanks again for detailing it all for us here.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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Joan
said on 4/27/2006 @ 7:37 am PT...
#14 RLM,
You are exactly right.
#16 Larry,
Great word for progressives: 'Anticipointment'. It sums up the frenzy & the Kafkaesque aftermath of election '04 just about perfectly. Leave it to Mike.
Has anyone seen this film?
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Charlene
said on 4/27/2006 @ 8:44 am PT...
#17 BlueBear2
Keep it coming! I like short & sweet.
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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Daniel DiRito
said on 4/27/2006 @ 10:04 am PT...
Amid rampant speculation, it is rumored that Fox News and the Bush administration will be collaborating on a new program direct from the White House. An unnamed Fox source has confirmed the speculation and has provided some further information to Thought Theater. Bucking the trend towards reality based programming; the show is expected to be loosely based upon the selective facts surrounding the internal workings of the President and his policy operatives. The source went on to say that the program will have a superficial talk show - game show format where reporters will be allowed to ask questions and then each member of the White House Press Corp will use a hand-held device to vote on whether they believe the answers that are provided by Tony. Once the question and answer session is completed, the reporter with the most correct votes will enter a soundproof booth with Helen Thomas.
Helen will be wired with a microphone. Tony will then turn on Helen’s mic and allow her to ask a question. Once the question has been asked, the Press Corp votes again on whether the question should be allowed or whether the winning reporter in the sound booth should bitch slap Helen and end her questioning. The unnamed source, when pressed, refused to acknowledge that the tabulation system had been provided by Diebold. At that point Brit Hume’s voice was overheard in the background calling for security. The phone then went silent. Efforts to contact Juan the source have since failed.
read more observations here:
www.thoughttheater.com
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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Mike J.
said on 4/27/2006 @ 11:39 am PT...
Hey Dan,
Can you respond with more mature words?
I was actually waiting for somebody to respond with the expected attack on Tony Snow's work at Fox News. So here you go!
Are you forgetting Chris Matthews, Tim Russert, and George Stephanopoulos? Then David Bergen and Joe Scarborough too. Hmmm?
Chris Matthews:
"...Matthews spent 15 years in politics and government, working in the White House for four years under President Jimmy Carter as a Presidential speechwriter and on the President’s Reorganization Project, in the U.S. Senate for five years on the staffs of Senator Frank Moss (Utah) and Senator Edmund Muskie (Maine), and as the top aide to Speaker of the House Thomas P. "Tip" O'Neill, Jr. for six years. "
Chris Matthews bio on MSNBC
Tim Russert:
"Russert served as counselor in New York Governor Mario Cuomo's office in Albany in 1983 to 1984 and was chief of staff to Democratic Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan from 1977 to 1982.
Wikipedia on Russert
MSNBC bio on Russert
George Stephanopoulos:
"...Stephanopoulos joined ABC News in 1997 as a news analyst for "This Week."
Prior to joining ABC News, Stephanopoulos served in the Clinton administration as the senior adviser to the president for policy and strategy. He was a key strategist in both Clinton presidential campaigns and was involved in the development of virtually all major policy initiatives during President Clinton's first term in office.
During the 1992 presidential election, Stephanopoulos served on the Clinton/Gore campaign as the deputy campaign manager and director of communications. He oversaw polling, policy, scheduling, press relations and media operations.
Before joining Clinton's campaign, Stephanopoulos was executive floor manager to House Majority Leader Richard A. Gephardt.
ABC news bio
David Gergen:
"...He has served in the White House as an adviser to four presidents: Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, and most recently for Bill Clinton as counselor to the president and then as special adviser to the president and the secretary of state.
U.S. News & World Report bio
Joe Scarborough:
"Scarborough was first elected to the US Congress in 1994, becoming the first Republican elected in Florida's First District since 1872. He was re-elected three more times, in landslide victories."
MSNBC bio
What the official bio does not say about former Republican Rep.Scarborough is that he resigned his office one year into this 3rd term causing the counties of his district to pay for a special election.
Ok, Dan? I'm sure that there are more examples out there.... You want me to get them or have you had enough?
Cheers!
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 4/27/2006 @ 12:38 pm PT...
Brad - Not a problem at all!
Thanks for giving us a forum to vent! Lets hope the giant corporations and Mike McCurry don't slow your blog down.
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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Mike J.
said on 4/27/2006 @ 2:44 pm PT...
opps, typo:
that should be David Gergen in my fourth sentence. It's right in his bio section.
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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Truth Seeker
said on 4/27/2006 @ 5:23 pm PT...
Mike J.
Please answer the question about Dan Rather.
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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Truth Seeker
said on 4/27/2006 @ 5:32 pm PT...
Brad,
I think you should put Larry Bergan's comments back up for all bloggers to see. The dailykos issue is very important for the liberal moonbat movement.
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 4/27/2006 @ 6:18 pm PT...
Mike J: The guys you mentioned were on TV AFTER they left the White House. Snow was on FOX News, then WENT TO THE WHITE HOUSE.
Hmmmm....Mike J....never seen someone go from TV to the White House...
OOPS!!! Another Republican!!! Ronald Reagan!!!
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 4/27/2006 @ 6:19 pm PT...
You don't really listen, when people talk, do you Mike J?
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 4/27/2006 @ 6:31 pm PT...
Mike J: Defend these racist comments by Snow...who made them BEFORE he was picked for the White House... keep in mind, he made these comments LAST WEEK!!! Not 20 years ago!
Democracy NOW! on Snow's Racist Comments
Mike J: I'm trying to figure you out... you seemed genuine at first, but I'm going to wrap up this case, and say that you are a troll of the "befriend, then BONE" type...
I'M WRAPPING UP THIS CASE!!!
COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 4/27/2006 @ 6:36 pm PT...
It's troll hunting season, and I just bagged me my second troll!!!!
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 4/27/2006 @ 6:43 pm PT...
There are progressive's and there are regressive's . . .
COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
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Bluebear2
said on 4/27/2006 @ 7:46 pm PT...
big dan #38 said:
"you seemed genuine at first, but I'm going to wrap up this case, and say that you are a troll of the "befriend, then BONE" type..."
I reached the same conclusion a week or 2 ago.
COMMENT #42 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 4/27/2006 @ 8:37 pm PT...
Truth Seeker #35- Thanks! I'm glad you liked the report I did.
I posted the same message on the Democracy For Utah website here with a great deal of angst because it was in reply to a message about the event that was fauningly postitive. The next day, she replied to the post and started out saying she welcomed the opinion because it would make for a boring blog site otherwise. I was very relieved!
She still loves Marcos, but she didn't refute anything said in my recap of the night, although one other attendant said on his blog site that he wished people would stop "whining" about stolen elections. I didn't reply due to my loss for words he could comprehend.
COMMENT #43 [Permalink]
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Truth Seeker
said on 4/28/2006 @ 5:56 am PT...
Larry,
Keep up the good work!
COMMENT #44 [Permalink]
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Mike J.
said on 4/28/2006 @ 8:02 am PT...
Dan,
Let's get something straight: I want fairness. I want fairness from my government, I want fairness from my political party, I want fairness from my voting system, and I also want fairness from those who disagree with my politics (but I can't get fairness here much). You don't see fairness in the current administration, so you work toward that. Fine. I don't see fairness in much of what is posted here, so I TRY to give you people more information so that you might TRY to be fair, if you choose to.
BlackBoxVoting.org seems to be doing very good work in the area of fair voting systems.
If you don't like my answer, too bad. People like you and your friends here are never satisfied with real truth that might sound good for Republicans.
IF YOU HAD TAKEN THE TIME TO READ AND UNDERSTAND the bios I posted, you would see that David Gergen worked for 4 presidents.
Let's see, how many presidents were there between his first president and his last president? Answer: 6
How many presidents did he work for? Answer: 4
How many presidents did he NOT work for between R.Nixon and B.Clinton? Answer: 2
So what was David Gergen doing during the Carter years and during the Bush 1 years? Answer: working in journalism!
1977‑80: Resident fellow, American Enterprise Institute and managing editor of Public Opinion magazine (now called American Enterprise)
1985‑86: Managing editor for national and international news, U.S. News and World Report
1986 until he started with Pres.Clinton: Editor, U.S. News and World Report
Source: Gergen files at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library
So there you have it! David Gergen, considered by most to be nonpartisian because he worked for Presidents of both parties, worked in Journalism both before and after Pres.Clinton's terms.
I'm sooooo sorry that you and others were not smart enough to figure out what Gergen was doing in-between the 4 Presidents he worked for. You could have figured it out for yourself if you had tried. David Gergen was described by Rolling Stone magazine to be "one of the most dispassionate observers of modern political history."
Next time before you throw out your usual BS about my posts, perhaps you should do your own complete research!
Also, can you put all your lines into one post instead of several?
There's your BONE!
and Have a "nice" day while you're at it!
COMMENT #45 [Permalink]
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Mike J.
said on 4/28/2006 @ 8:51 am PT...
Truth Seeker/Jerry,
Ok, if Pres.Clinton had choosen Dan Rather to be his press secretary, I would not have been surprised. Sure, I would not have liked it, from my perspective, but would it have been a surprise? No.
Pres.Clinton did the most outlandish things as President and after a while very few things he did actually surprised me.
Dan Rather working for Pres.Clinton would have been suspect at first, but I'm sure that most researched people would realized that many have gone from government to journalism, and a few have gone back.
I suspect that no matter who Pres.Bush would have choosen, most of you on this board would have found something you didn't like or said bad things about him/her.
The fact is that most liberals don't like anything that Pres.Bush does, even if it benefits you.
That's how I see it!
COMMENT #46 [Permalink]
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Laura
said on 4/28/2006 @ 2:46 pm PT...
I just read the whole thread and Mike J., You should quit using the word liberal like a dirty word. You talk about the posters here not listening to your truth but I have not seen you listen to any of their truth either. I have seen your posts on this blog for over two weeks and as far as I can tell you have not changed anyone to your way of thinking. We know what we know because we have done the reading and research to come to our own truth. So why don't you just get over yourself! Your problem is that you see us as people that need to believe what you believe, We don't, We won't. One thing I wish you would learn is to put country before party. Can't you see that Bush is trying to divide us? Because if we are divided we cannot stand and take them on TOGETHER? That is what this country needs,for all people of every persuasion to come together and fight the Fascists that are doing a good job of sending our country down the shitter!
COMMENT #47 [Permalink]
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Truth Seeker
said on 4/28/2006 @ 8:49 pm PT...
Mike J.
Thank you. I have no problem with Tony Snow. I hope the information flow improves. I expect him to appear on networks other than FOX now.
I also agree with Laura and I am proud to be a liberal moonbat.
COMMENT #48 [Permalink]
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SCJ
said on 4/29/2006 @ 9:05 am PT...
Wasn't it Snow on thanking GW for giving him the job as Press Secretary that said "We need more people like rush in the White House" Where can I get a copy of that video on line? Rush was arrested on Friday for drug related charges. LOL Yeah we need more Drug Addicts in the White House. GW would could share his stash!!!
COMMENT #49 [Permalink]
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Laura
said on 4/29/2006 @ 11:20 am PT...
SCJ: If I'm not mistaken that was Senator George Allen that said all that. Another one of those racist loonies who want to run for pres in 08. Thanks truthseeker
COMMENT #50 [Permalink]
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Mike J.
said on 5/1/2006 @ 12:04 pm PT...
Laura,
If you are proud to be a liberal, then so be it. It's actually refreshing to see some liberals like you state that proudly. Most liberals cower at the term and prefer "progressive". Why come up with another term if liberal is truth? Answer: because those who do not want to admit that they are liberal seek another word they can use and sound better. So I think that it's good that you are a proud liberal. That means that you have more courage to admit it than most liberals have.
"Your problem is that you see us as people that need to believe what you believe, We don't, We won't."
So you will never, ever change your mind on something no matter how much information you see otherwise? I understand that you believe that Pres.Bush has been bad for the country, but I don't see that. Go ahead and believe it and other strange theories all you want.
Before you accuse me of not listening to your side, I'll say that I am starting to believe the election system problems that I read about here, as far as the accuraccy and reliability of the machines. I'm not convinced that it's partisian.
"One thing I wish you would learn is to put country before party. Can't you see that Bush is trying to divide us?"
Laura, I certainly do put country before party and even faith before country. I learned that in the military. But I believe ideas of my party are better than Democrats. Pres.Bush tried for years to get the Democrats and Republicans in Congress to stop being so partisian. But the Democrats like ex-Sen.Daschle didn't want to try. Sen.Reid(D-NV) does not want to get away from extreme partisanship either. His friends like Sens.Kennedy, Kerry, Schumer, Clinton, Biden, Levin, Feingold, Feinstein, etc. are not interested in ever being bipartisian (unless a Republican agrees with them).
Truth Seeker,
Same as Laura, if you are a proud liberal, good for you because most shy away from that term.
I'm glad you don't attack Tony Snow. Even Brad makes fun of his last name. I've known people with very unusual last names and I never make fun of them. I saw that in grade school and in the military, but never in college and my professional environment. I also see that behavior here. Too bad. But I've never said "moonbat" here.
More thing about Dan's question that I realized. Any president has the right to appoint anybody they want to the post of press secretary. Pres.Clinton would have had the right to pick Dan Rather. Yes, some conservatives would have had a field day (or week/month/year). But he had the right just as Pres.Bush has the right to pick who ever he wants. If he had picked Dan Senor, liberals... err... people would have attacked Dan Senor too.
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Dredd
said on 5/4/2006 @ 6:22 am PT...
Mike J #50
Colbert says of Bush: "he is a man, who, on Wednesday will stick to what he said on Monday, no matter what happens on Tuesday" (paraphrased).
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Mike J.
said on 5/10/2006 @ 2:40 pm PT...
Dredd,
I just watched the video from the WH Correspondents dinner. BEFORE he said the paraphrased quote you have, he said this:
"I speak straight from the gut. I give people the truth unfiltered by rational argument. I call it the 'No Fact Zone'. Fox News, I want a copyright on that term."
Now, here we are quoting from a COMEDIAN! He was performing a 'roast' of the President. It was a comedy skit, get it? You want to quote from somebody who works for Comedy Central?
And that is your repsonse to my post? I pointed out that some people have moved from journalism to the White House and back to journalism and back again to the White House and back to journalism. And that is what you have to say? Quoting from a comedian performing a skit is not quite up to your standards. Try again.
Please...........
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Mike J.
said on 5/10/2006 @ 2:46 pm PT...
Dredd,
I just watched the video from the WH Correspondents dinner. BEFORE he said the paraphrased quote you have, he said this:
"I speak straight from the gut. I give people the truth unfiltered by rational argument. I call it the 'No Fact Zone'. Fox News, I want a copyright on that term."
Now, here we are quoting from a COMEDIAN! He was performing a 'roast' of the President. It was a comedy skit, get it? You want to quote from somebody who works for Comedy Central?
And that is your repsonse to my post? I pointed out that some people have moved from journalism to the White House and back to journalism and back again to the White House and back to journalism. And that is what you have to say? Quoting from a comedian performing a skit is not quite up to your standards. Try again.
Please...........