Good job Gideon....

Now we got the neocon press right where we want them.... LETS FORCE THEM TO TRY TO SPIN THIS, AFTER *ALL* THE DIEBOLD MACHINES FAIL AT THE REVOTE TEST IN OHIO....

The war lines are up, its time to pay the piper. Get video cameras and everything else ready to put them all on notice. All of us are going to storm the election offices, you hear me and we're going to tell them, and we're going to see for ourselves the "glitches" as we do away with Diebold in every state.

Doug E.

As for missouri...

They already have verified paper ballots now and audits, and I do agree with an ID requirement. But one that MOST voting americans can meet as in, state sponsored IDs/proof of social security number.

That eliminates both election fraud and voter fraud in the most severe cases......and eliminates vote buying. Fraud will always be a problem but with these safeguards missouri can nearly eliminate it wrecking elections.

Doug

Doug - You're misguided re: Photo ID's. One that "MOST" Americans can meet is not good enough.

Putting a step in between the voter and the ability to vote is nothing more than a disenfranchisement technique to keep minority, elderly, city-dwelling voters (read: Dem-leaning!) from voting.

"Free" or not, those that don't have to take yet one more step, to go one more place, to get one more piece of ID before voting will have an advantage at the polls. You should know better by now.

There is no epidemic of "Voter Fraud" --- unlike Election Fraud. See this for the latest.

I agree, it disenfranchises people who don't deserve it.

But in some of these states, there is voter fraud, and those states seem to know no other way to deal with it. Its not rampant like all the rightwings claim at all...

But, voter fraud has happened and could be prevented by better procedures rather than mandatory IDs. That's just the way it is.

Doug

I have e-mailed various supervisors' of elections about VotePAD, including Ion Sanchez. Just trying to put something else on the plate for consideration!

Floridiot #5

I suspect that the primary reason BLOGs in American are "monitored" (spied on) by the government is to do us harm.

They should be listening to what we say here because all our ire and complaint is in a spirit of healing and removing criminality from government.

More and more sensible people are turned off by the US regime. And here we let it be known why.

I have e-mailed various supervisors' of elections about VotePAD, including Ion Sanchez. Just trying to put something else on the plate for consideration!

Sorry!

E-mail has become a great way for all of us to become more vocal and it's great when someone like Mugzi can make a small action which might help our country in a big way. It makes us all better off and yet the big communications companies and several ISPs like AOL would like to charge separately for e-mail service. One has to wonder "What were they thinking?" It would be better to encourage more action from the public, not stifle it.

You definitely need to check out this link. Apparently a reporter has sued for the lack of transparency in voting machines and it's reached the Supreme Court.

http://news.google.com/u...06Landes.shtml&cid=0

Did DIE-DEMOCRACY...I mean DIEBOLD have an official statement about that Ohio vote having more votes than voters? How come I know they didn't...did they?

Dredd #7: And to add to that...because it's the only place we're allowed to be heard. Where in the MSM are they talking about what we are talking about?

The MSM wants to give the "illusion" that what they talk about, is what people care about. Not true!

If it were true, the MSM would be talking about voting and health care. That's why the corporate-run and sponsored presidential debates lockout Nader/Cobb/Bednarik. Those 3 guys would make fools out of the Republican & Democrat "nominees" (I'm trying not to laugh). Corporate America doesn't want American citizens to see their 2 puppet nominees make absolute fools out of, by 3rd party candidates.

I'm hoping that the Feds are looking in to all this as we
speak
Then one day, the shit will hit the fan and the heads will
start rolling
If their monitoring this or any other blog at all, they've got to know that something is fishy, and they know, being investigators and all, that any theory is worth looking into, if their is a good Fed agency left anymore that actually does work for "The Peeps"
You would think there is a couple of freedom fighters left in our government, wouldn't ya ?

Plus corporate america is totally run by neocons, Rupert Murdoch and friends.....NO EQUAL DEBATE.....We simply have to start our own satellite companies, which now we have several.

Doug

Today I attended a meeting at the Allegheny County Courthouse in Pittsburgh PA., also attended by representatives from Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia, and Accupoll. Our County Executive is facing the prospect of losing $12 million in federal money if we don't have HAVA-compliant voting machines or at least show serious progress being made toward purchasing same in time for the May primary. (And wouldn't you know it, Diebold is extending their offer of a discounted price until this Thursday!)

I stood up and offered the info that I got from this blog yesterday re the Montgomery County, OH revote which was supposedly necessary, according to the quote from their local newspaper, because more votes were recorded on the Diebold TSX than there were voters.

The Diebold rep said he was happy to debunk this information and told all of us in the room that the problem was that the election official handed out ballots to people who should not have gotten them, as it was a "split precinct". and only some of the people should have gotten them. Do you have any additional information on his explanation that I could forward to my county officials?

Could he be right about this?

Mycher That's a tough one but I doubt he's right. In fact the secretary of state re-wrote the laws to make it so all provisional votes are seperated by precinct. But if they're in the wrong precinct in the same room, they don't count.

Of course according to "Blackwell" this is the law. So it sounds like some more orwellian doublespeak, and you ought to ask Bev and the staff of Black Box Voting as well as John Gideon about that.

Doug E

TCMD #11

The petition is not well done. It is unlikely she will be granted the writ. She mixes state law and federal law concepts and does not understand Eleventh Amendment jurisprudence (which was wacky from the start, and still is).

There is little, if any, hope she will prevail.

That being said, I hope she prevails to some degree and it is remanded for further consideration. That means a few more years of litigation at a minimum.