READER COMMENTS ON
"Post-Weekend Round-Up..."
(27 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
...
MarkH
said on 11/7/2005 @ 3:41 pm PT...
They're acting like brats, but their intention is much more sinister and awful for America.
They must be stopped and punished very severely. Simply letting Sotelo say she's sorry isn't enough.
The smug assurance there's more to come is so Rovian or Bushy it's disgusting. We've got to get that bunch out of American politics.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
...
Kira
said on 11/7/2005 @ 4:36 pm PT...
Add this:
More Republican Dirty Tricks
From Tim Kaine's Website:
[snip] In yet the latest Republican dirty trick, people in Northern Virginia — myself included — are getting calls purporting to be from the Kaine campaign. However, at the end of the message it says “Paid for by Honest Leadership for Virginia PAC.” Wait a minute, what on earth is THAT? Well, according to the Virginia Public Access Project (VPAP):
Honest Leadership for Virginia supports the election of conservative Republican candidates in the state of Virginia, including 2005 gubernatorial candidate Jerry Kilgore.
All told, this (ironically named) group has given $2,852,603 (100%) of its money to Jerry Kilgore this year, and $0.00 (0%) of its money to Democrats. It’s also Jerry Kilgore’s #1 donor - by FAR!
Hmmm…doesn’t sound like a bunch of Tim Kaine supporters to me. So how can this group be making robocalls that begin, “I’m Tim Kaine and I want you to know where I stand on the issues.” Isn’t that a bit strange, at the minimum? Illegal? That’s up to the State Board of Elections to determine, along with possible civil and/or criminal penalties. [snip]
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
...
dantastic danimal
said on 11/7/2005 @ 5:45 pm PT...
hey everybody, check out my Video i made! its about 911 and it's set to Bach music.
911 and Bach
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
...
Doug Eldritch
said on 11/7/2005 @ 6:40 pm PT...
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
...
Doug Eldritch
said on 11/7/2005 @ 8:22 pm PT...
Rethugs: disenfranchising voters since 1432 and beyond!
Good old racist Rethugs; they have sunk to an all time low now. Time for the rethugs indicted and un-indicted to be sent to jail, how hard is it for these nutcases to win an election legitimately!??!?
Doug E
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
...
PetGoat
said on 11/7/2005 @ 9:42 pm PT...
Dantastic #3: Great job on the video!
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
...
czaragorn
said on 11/8/2005 @ 2:48 am PT...
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
...
Floridiot
said on 11/8/2005 @ 4:06 am PT...
Doug says,
"how hard is it for these nutcases to win an election legitimately!??!?"
I say,
"They never hava and never will"
(nice freud-dude slip)
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
...
Dredd
said on 11/8/2005 @ 4:29 am PT...
It only took a small percentage of the population, the NAZI party, to ruin Germany.
I noticed that the FBI arrested 4 people in CA for spying for China. Some others in another place.
What ever happened to the Clint Curtis story where he discovered a spy for China and the spy got a $100 fine? Feeney (mini-Delay) was the spy's "lawyer" for awhile.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
...
Dredd
said on 11/8/2005 @ 4:35 am PT...
Hey All
Hardball with Chris Matthews is doing a scathing coverage of the lead up to the Iraq war.
He seems to be pulling no punches and seems to be convinced that the admin lied us into Iraq.
The first of the series, on Monday nite, was pretty hard hitting.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
...
Lemmethink_not
said on 11/8/2005 @ 6:17 am PT...
IMHO Sotelo and anyone else acting in this capacity should be held responsible for all expenses involved for any fraudulent charges against the parties defending themselves against this type of crap, all the way down to the postage and office supplies involved then maybe they will start to be more responsible if held accountable, the way most of these people operate is under the assumption that all citizens are subservient and have no choice but to comply regardless of the absurdity.
Those challenged should get together and bring suit against those responsible for this type of frivolous action , it looks like harrassment and intimidation under color of law to me.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
...
Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 11/8/2005 @ 7:16 am PT...
For Dredd: I've noticed a real change in Matthews. If anything, he was a defender of the administration
until about a month ago.
I'm sure the turning point came when Libby dragged his name into the Plame matter ("I heard all this from reporters!" ha ha ha). At that point he realized these bastards will stop at nothing in their lies and blame-shifting. And because Matthews isn't a flaming liberal by any means (in fact, he's like the Fox crew in the way he interrupts answers he doesn't like and asks a new question), he has credibility when he goes after Bush.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
...
ShadoGovernment
said on 11/8/2005 @ 8:28 am PT...
There's really no evidence that Al-Qaeda attacked America on 9-11. We just have the words of proven liars saying that it is true.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
...
Dredd
said on 11/8/2005 @ 8:45 am PT...
RLM #12
Yeah, his mind is changed. He has an entire week scheduled to focus on the lies that led to the phony oil war.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
...
scott
said on 11/8/2005 @ 10:01 am PT...
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
...
Dredd
said on 11/8/2005 @ 10:44 am PT...
Did anyone know that Scooter Libby writes smut novels? (link here)
That is another case of hypocrisy. Wonder how Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson liked the novel about "lavish dollops of voyeurism, bestiality, pedophilia and corpse robbery."
"All In a Daze Work At The Veeps Office author Scooter is under investigation", Snottie said at a press conference.
"So I can't comment on Scooter's relationship with Jeffie Gannon" until the investigation is complete.
"But I talked with both Scooter and Turdblossom and they assured me that neither they nor Jeffie did anything nasty"
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
...
Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 11/8/2005 @ 11:19 am PT...
Rumor has it that it's Santorum's favorite book.
About the attempts at disenfranchisement of Democratic voters (this comment would be the same if Republicans were being disenfranchised):
What do all the politicians (including Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton) who voted against Barbara Boxer and Stephanie Tubbs-Jones think about this?
Obama said, "Let's get real. There was fraud on both sides," then voted "no."
Really scared off the crooks, didn't it? Imagine if a cop saw a guy getting beaten up with a baseball bat, and walked casually by without doing anything.
If asked why he didn't arrest anyone, imagine the cop saying, "Well, the guy he's beating up beat him up last week, and other guys, too. They all do it."
In a football game, do referees not call holding penalties because the guy doing the holding had been held on the previous play? That's what's going on here, friends... politicians don't have the guts to call fraud by its real name, FRAUD, because they're all afraid of being called partisans by the other side ("You guys do it, too").
So nothing gets done, and elections keep getting stolen. Thanks, Barack and Hillary. Thanks, John Kerry. Thanks, Democrats.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
...
KestrelBrighteyes
said on 11/8/2005 @ 11:20 am PT...
Hey y'all, MSM says there's a problem with voting machines in OHIO - GEE, YA THINK????
Article published November 8, 2005
Lucas County voting begins Election Day with problems at the polls
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
...
Kira
said on 11/8/2005 @ 11:28 am PT...
Thank you Robert #17. THIS SHOULD BE OUR MANTRA and I think every letter to congress should carry a statement that says exactly the same thing.
I'm sick and tired of hearing & seeing it in congress. For instance, Howard Dean made a comment that made me angry --- it was on the subject of the stolen elections and essentially he said almost the same thing bushitler said after the Katrina debacle --- let's don't worry about what happened, let's move on and do better.
It seems to me this is the rotten core of our government today.
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
...
Dr. Alan H. Levinson
said on 11/8/2005 @ 11:42 am PT...
I've been contemplating the issues surrounding the "run up to the war" and am unsure how to understand some of the events. The administration continues to make the argument that the Democrats who voted for the war got to see the same information as the Republicans. I asked this on Conyersblog, but have yet to hear anything.
1. Is this true, or is it that officials within the administration withheld any dissenting info and only presented whatever furthered their pro-war agenda?
Or,
2. Did the administration 'doctor' the information that was presented in order to exaggerate the threat?
Or,
3. Was all the information presented in total, and all who voted for the war were in agreement about what the intel. concluded?
Or,
4. Was all the information presented, and those who voted for approval (but now express regrets) are only sorry because the polls regarding the war have gone so painfully low and they are looking to cover their behinds?
My question is based in some cynicism, some reality, and some ignorance. But I think it is important to know just what information was provided to our senators and representatives...and what the adminsitration knew but weren't saying!!
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
...
Kira
said on 11/8/2005 @ 11:58 am PT...
Dr. Levinson,
I believe it's being talked about in various places now (including Chris Matthews on Hardball) that information was "doctored" to create the pro-war spin - as stated by Sen. Carl Levin (from last night's show, which I watched.)
Here are 2 articles I found re: Levin's stance on the war in Iraq --- 1 from 2002and 1 from Oct. 21, 2005.
I'm sure there are more articles & maybe some better out there --- I just quickly got these from a google search.
I firmly believe there are neoCON/Democrats in congress who helped "catapult the propaganda." But, I also believe a lot of Dems in congress had the wool pulled over their eyes.
It's really unfortunate, but as time goes by, we KNOW a lot of them have relied on the newspapers for their information on what's going on in OUR government. What a damn shame we have such inept people representing us in congress.
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
...
Winter Patriot
said on 11/8/2005 @ 12:29 pm PT...
re #20 and #21, comments from Dr. Levinson and Kira:
A few months ago, Raw Story ran a long article detailing how the administration had restricted access to intelligence, very shortly after 9/11, so that only a very small number of officials, all hardcore neocon Republicans, had access to the full picture. Everyone else was given only very limited glimpses of heavily doctored intelligence.
Our senators and representatives got no more detailed or accurate information than what Judy Miller was running in the New York Times. This may be why they voted the way they did. And apparently many of them still believe the lies they were told.
I'm pressed for time and I can't find that article, but if I ever do find it I will post the link.
Or maybe another BRAD BLOG reader can find it and post it before I can do so? We'll see...
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
...
Doug Eldritch
said on 11/8/2005 @ 12:38 pm PT...
Ignore Dr Levinson
The touch-screen fraud continues in mass, and is everywhere!!!!!!!!
Democracy? Are you joking? What's that!??!??
Every last one of them needs to be smashed into oblivion. Class-action full suits against Diebold, Triad & their criminal enterprise.
Doug E.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
...
Kira
said on 11/8/2005 @ 12:42 pm PT...
Thanks, WP, for the tip. Could this be the story?
Senate Intelligence chairman quietly 'fixed' intelligence, and diverted blame from White House over Iraq
By Larisa Alexandrovna
[snip] Shortly after the 9/11 attacks, President George W. Bush issued an order to the Central Intelligence Agency, Department of Defense, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the State Department, and his cabinet members that severely curtailed intelligence oversight by restricting classified information to just eight members of Congress. [snip]
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
...
molly
said on 11/8/2005 @ 3:39 pm PT...
The analogy upthread to stolen elections and a cop ignoring crime was powerful. What is happening to the democratic party? Lou Dobbs's question tonight is "Would you like to see a third party?" YES, YES,YES..There was a time the dems. stood for the working man and respected unions and free speech along with a lot of other things that are history. Carter is now saying dems. shouldn't be pro choice. He who can be thanked for destroying family farms.We need a clean sweep. Brad, run, I'll vote for you.
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
...
Kira
said on 11/8/2005 @ 4:06 pm PT...
Molly - can you give a link for Carter saying Dems shouldn't be pro-choice? I heard him on Hardball the other night and what I understood him saying was that he, personally, didn't agree with abortion, but that he thought it should not be a campaign issue and that he was in favor of choice.
That's the way I understood it.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
...
Dredd
said on 11/9/2005 @ 4:12 am PT...
"Democrats cleaned up big in off-year elections from New Jersey to California, sinking the candidate who embraced President Bush in the final days of the Virginia governor's campaign. They also turned back all four of GOP Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's efforts to reshape state government. " (link here).