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"Election Integrity Filmmaker Sees Own Vote Flipped on ESS Touch-Screens in TN"
(26 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/21/2008 @ 12:28 pm PT...
A McCain "Win" Will Be Theft, Resistance Is Planned
OpEd News; David Swanson
If your television declares John McCain the president elect on the evening of November 4th, your television will be lying. You should immediately pick up your pre-packed bags and head straight to the White House in Washington, D.C., which we will surround and shut down until this attempt at a third illegitimate presidency is reversed.
A McCain "win" will not be illegitimate because I disagree with his policies, but because he himself has rendered it illegitimate. He and his campaign and allied supporters have sought to illegally remove hundreds of thousands of voters from the rolls, fraudulently registered people as Republicans without their knowledge and against their will, obstructed voter registration drives, falsely warned students against voting where they attend school, falsely accused community groups of voter registration fraud, falsely alleged the widespread existence of voter fraud, and encouraged supporters to falsely believe McCain's opponent is a foreign terrorist through speeches, recorded phone messages, and flyers. Already in early voting in a number of states there have been cases of votes on electronic machines visibly flipping to McCain or McKinney when intended for Obama. We will see McCain supporters on November 4th challenging people's right to vote, seeking to force people to vote on provisional ballots, and seeking to have provisional ballots discarded. And we will see electronic vote counts wildly out of step with the most recent polls, although not with exit polls --- which we will be denied any access to unless they have been "adjusted" to match the official counts.
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Newspaper endorsements - 124 Obama / 42 McPoot
Why Obama's Shocking Landslide in Newspaper Endorsements Really Matters
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
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Karen
said on 10/21/2008 @ 1:48 pm PT...
Brad,
You should be on Thom's show, I work during his show and so if he mentioned your updates, I did not hear them, but if not, we really need to drive traffic here so that we are all linked and can help out when a suggestion is made as to how we can help out.
I posted the contact info for West Virgina on the Obama board yesterday to see if we could get some more people to call their offices.
Having problems sleeping - Schindler's List...
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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sukabi
said on 10/21/2008 @ 1:52 pm PT...
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/21/2008 @ 2:47 pm PT...
SUKABI #3 --- WTF?????
Does their depravity know no bounds?
Of course I know the answer to my question ... Nope.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Ancient
said on 10/21/2008 @ 3:01 pm PT...
Hey Brad, does this mean if I want to vote for Cynthia McKinney I should press Obama? But seriously, do the poll workers know enough to unplug the machine and hand people a paper ballot? And I guess, instead of a contingency of lawyers, can we please get the behind-the-times-states to do ANOTHER emergency paper ballot measure???????????? Aint it a great dog and pony show!
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/21/2008 @ 3:08 pm PT...
Woot!
Even with all the dirty tricks, Red State Georgia has turned PINK!
Polls show Obama only 2 points behind McFailin'!!!
Let's go GA! You know the only reason you turned RED was the Diebold Steal Your Vote Machines that flipped the vote in '02.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Nunyabiz
said on 10/21/2008 @ 3:43 pm PT...
I am seeing McSame ahead in Georgia by 7% and given the snake dancing mouth breathing inbreds that infest that area it is not surprising.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/icon.html
/Sigh I live in NC and since this state has Obama ahead in every poll by 1-3% for the past few weeks I guess I am going to go out everyday until Nov 4th and video odd happenings and also take exit polls from as many people as I can.
These 15EV could very well be the difference if other states are stolen.
Obama has to win by a MASSIVE margin to even stand a chance.
I have been hoping to avoid this because if Reich wing lunatics get in my face there is a very good chance I will end up getting arrested.
I don't put up with ANY shit at all.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/21/2008 @ 4:37 pm PT...
Well, I know how polls are, Nunya ... however your figures are from Oct. 15 and mine are from Oct. 20 from TPM Poll Tracker Interactive Map. You have to scroll down a tad to see the map.
You are sooo cool, Nynyabiz! Keep up the good work.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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John Jones
said on 10/21/2008 @ 4:55 pm PT...
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Nunyabiz
said on 10/21/2008 @ 5:48 pm PT...
Kira, True those are from 6 days ago however it is from 4 polls not just one.
Either way it is a good sign that even in such a backwards Red state he is that close.
It is also a good sign that Obama draws MASSIVE crowds where ever he goes even in Red states while McSame can barely scrounge up 15-20,000 at most even in Red states.
I bet he is much further ahead than the polls are stating.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Nunyabiz
said on 10/21/2008 @ 5:55 pm PT...
and BTW I totally agree with David Swanson from the article you linked.
It is basically what I have been saying for months now.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/21/2008 @ 10:29 pm PT...
Nunya - ok, I admit I did sorta cherry-pick the Oct. 20 poll from Democracy Corps I do like it!
I, too, fully believe the polls have been weighted to favor repubs - for many years. It's an integral part of karl's "The Math."
But, I want to talk about GA being "such a backwards Red State" as you suggested in #10. Not just GA, but other so-called RED states. [Admittedly, there are those wonderful pockets of "snake dancing mouth breathing inbred" real Americans - but we're seeing those in Ohio & really, all across America.]
Anyway, I think Liberals & Democrats do themselves a big disservice buying into the Red State propaganda. Consider this - Gore won in 2000 & Kerry won in 2004. Um ... we won - we didn't lose.
Please remember this before citing GA as a Red State:
Opinion polls in Georgia on the eve of the 2002 general election showed Democratic incumbent Gov. Roy Barnes leading by 9-11 points and Sen. Max Cleland ahead of his Republican challenger by 2-5 points, so it was a shock on election night when the returns showed Barnes losing to Republican Sonny Perdue, 46 to 51 percent, a swing of as much as 16 points from the last opinion polls, and Cleland losing to Saxby Chambliss by 46 to 53 percent, a last-minute swing of 9-12 points. Pundits credited a surge of "angry white men" punishing Barnes for removing the Confederate symbol from the state flag, but the London Independent noted in a special investigative report on Oct. 14 that a demographic breakdown published by the Georgia Secretary of State showed no such surge of white men; the only subgroup showing a modest increase in turnout was black women.
There were also big, puzzling swings in different parts of the state, the Independent noted. In 58 counties, the vote was broadly in line with the primary election. In 27 counties in Republican-dominated north Georgia, however, Cleland unaccountably scored 14 points higher than he had in the primaries. And in 74 counties in the Democrat south, Saxby Chambliss garnered a whopping 22 points more for the Republicans than the party as a whole had won less than three months earlier.
The big difference was that in November 2002 Georgia was the first state in the country to conduct an election entirely with touchscreen voting machines, after lavishing $54 million on a new system that promised to deliver the most secure, most up-to-date, most voter-friendly election in the nation's history.
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According to Chris Hood [a former consultant with Diebold Election Systems,] Diebold employees altered software in some 5,000 machines in DeKalb and Fulton counties - the state's largest Democratic strongholds.
To avoid detection, Hood and others on his team entered warehouses early in the morning. "We went in at 7:30a.m. and were out by 11," Hood says. "There was a universal key to unlock the machines, and it's easy to get access. The machines in the warehouses were unlocked. We had control of everything.
The state gave us the keys to the castle, so to speak, and they stayed out of our way." Hood personally patched fifty-six machines and witnessed the patch being applied to more than 1,200 others.
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So - GA didn't really become a Red State, it's just a perception following the theft and ensuing right-wing propaganda.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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harry mellon
said on 10/21/2008 @ 11:04 pm PT...
VIDEO RECORD IT...EVEN IF ILLEGAL!!!!
CAMERA VIDEO RECORD!!!
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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Drew Ricketts
said on 10/21/2008 @ 11:05 pm PT...
It's not enough that they will divide us culturally to no end, they will also rig the machines to make sure it works. How dastardly can you get? I hope this voter madness does not happen again. We will be looking at a vastly different America if so.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/21/2008 @ 11:15 pm PT...
Wow! Drew Rickets #14 - thank you for the link & your excellent article Media Chases the White Joe Vote.
Mind if I send it around?
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Jeannie Dean (not in) FL-13
said on 10/22/2008 @ 12:48 am PT...
Has anyone reported these incidents to the 1-866-OUR VOTE hotline? I'm going to try them first thing in the morning, see if they can't get someone to ISOLATE/ SEQUESTER and INVESTIGATE these machines before even MORE people vote on them! Jeezus.
Can a citizen insist that a faulty machine be removed from his or her polling place? I think Brad did that back in the CA Primaries when the Hart Intercivic disabled voters machine did that nasty little candy dance, bait-n-switch-a-roo on his ballot. But, that might've been because he's Brad.
Anyone know...?
Harry Melon (#13) YES, SIR! Video tape everything you can and upload it to www.videothevote.org! It will automatically be linked to a national YOUTUBE/ PBS project called "Video YOUR Vote" and will act as critical documentation for the 2008 election record. The earlier we can get the footage up, the better informed the voters are, the more likely the (new) media outlets will pick it up, the more likely there will be pressure put on the candidate to NOT concede before every vote has been reconciled.
And Kira, you rock. Great Swanson piece, and yes--I'm in, too, Nunya.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Phil
said on 10/22/2008 @ 1:28 am PT...
"If you can't vote. There is no freedom in the home of the brave." - Phil 2008
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Nunyabiz
said on 10/22/2008 @ 7:00 am PT...
All true Kira and I agree.
However the reason Georgia and other such Red states are even remotely able to be stolen in the first place is because these religious zealots which have clearly divorced themselves from reality are a large percentage of the population in those areas.
They also have by & large installed many of these lunatics into prominent positions of power so they can control much of what happens in the entire state.
Just read these 2 links to get a good idea.
http://www.theocracywatch.org/index.html
http://www.yuricareport....eDespoilingOfAmerica.htm
and definitely watch this excellent video that was aired back in 1982 and narrated by Burt Lancaster.
http://www.theocracywatc..._and_liberty-256kbps.wmv
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Marcy
said on 10/22/2008 @ 9:29 am PT...
What is being done to make voters aware, on a large scale, of the vote flipping taking place in touch-screen machines in states where early voting has begun (i.e. W. Virginia, Florida, Tennesee)? Voters must be made aware of this situation so they can alert poll workers if their vote is changed, and make sure it is fixed. THese machines should be junked and paper ballots provided. THis could cause the entire election to "flip" to McCain (votes are only being flipped from Dem to Rep candidates. Doesn't sound kosher to me!)
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/22/2008 @ 11:28 am PT...
*fist-bump* Nunya! Didn't you get those links from me - several years ago?
Yurica has written several excellent articles exposing the evangelical Dominionists and how they've infiltrated all levels of government [according to their plan, led by pat robertson ... think Monica Goodling ... & countless others.]
I could go into a long discussion about how Newt Gingrich bought a NLP therapist to create the original GOP manual [passed around with orders to memorize and utilize in any conversation or interview with the media] which contains lists of derogatory words to be used when talking about Democrats & Liberals along with the list of very flattering words to be used when talking about republicans & "conservatives." I call it The Hypnotizing of America via the Contract ON America. Thom Hartmann has the whole story here
But it's not just GA - these anti-American evangelicals are spread out, in those wonderful little pockets, all across America. The good news is that a lot of America is waking up and noticing that these people aren't representing the true message of Christ. I think the tide is turning.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/22/2008 @ 11:42 am PT...
Jeannie Dean - thanks for the compliment, but really, it is YOU! YOU REALLY ROCK, girl!
I don't know how you manage to get your exposé videos but they are simply top-notch. There are signs posted everywhere at my precinct that say cameras & cellphones are illegal. How else can they maintain their secrets?
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/22/2008 @ 1:07 pm PT...
PS to NUNYABIZ - the Thom Hartmann article on NLP [Neuro Linguistic Programming] is pretty long and the part referring to Newt Gingrich is a little more than 3/4 down the page.
It's all kind of important ... to get the background info y'know. I just didn't want you to give up & think I gave you a bum link.
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Nunyabiz
said on 10/22/2008 @ 2:47 pm PT...
""Didn't you get those links from me - several years ago"'
Nope, been an avid reader of both the Yurica report and Theocracy watch for many years and been using those ever since they were first published.
I am always glad to see someone else that knows what the hell is really going on though.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/22/2008 @ 2:54 pm PT...
That was actually my attempt at a wee joke, however I have posted the links here & at other blogs ever since I discovered her either '04 or early '05. Most people pooh-pooh it ... kinda like they do regarding 9/11 Truth.
Anyway - I too "am always glad to see someone else that knows what the hell is really going on."
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/22/2008 @ 3:01 pm PT...
I didn't mean to ignore Theocracy Watch ... another excellent site for information.
And this one:
talk2action.org
Thanks Nunyabiz
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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Greg Forest
said on 10/29/2008 @ 12:14 pm PT...
Have any voting machine irregularities been in favor of Obama's campaign or is it always a glitch that helps the GOP? If it is the machine, I would think the errors should be about equal for both parties eh?
Is there such thing as a "voting irregularity" that doesn't benefit the GOP?