READER COMMENTS ON
"LAPD Officer Captured on Video Pointing Gun at Citizen Journalist '@OakFoShow' at OccupyLA Raid"
(13 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Jeannie Dean
said on 12/2/2011 @ 3:16 am PT...
It was not all ponies and rainbows, our raid, Brad.
Horror stories are emerging...
Thank you from this important update.
And please see the latest on our occupyLA arrestees, my friends, who I am so worried about after 2+ days of detention under what I am learning are HORRIFIC, INHUMANE circumstances:
http://www.answercoaliti...d-rights-11-30-2011.html
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
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molly
said on 12/2/2011 @ 3:56 am PT...
Yesterday I posted an account of the Bangor Daily News censoring pro Occupier comments on their online website in ME. Bangor Daily News is read mid state and all the way to the Canadian Border.
Yesterday, the Occupy comments had gone from around 100 for each article to 8.One of the anti Occupy comments stated the FBI might pay a visit to a commentor.
Today, there are 3 Occupy comments on the Occupy article. So, I guess they are having the desired effect. Shut down discussion.
The Bangor Daily News used to be the best newspaper that I had ever read. They will suffer from advertising revenues as a result of the censorship. Shame. It is the system.
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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The whole world is watching.
said on 12/2/2011 @ 4:19 am PT...
Thank you for posting video of these incidents!
Nearly every description of the Occupy LA raid I've seen in the media parroted the claim of the mayor and police chief that all officers used "minimal force", yet these examples clearly contradict that claim.
Since the "media pool" was excluded from the activity in the interior of the park, these are our only glimpses into what actually happened there.
There was another example of police using excessive force that was broadcast live by KCAL9. To the best of my recollection, four male officers pinned a physically small young woman down onto the concrete with their knees, and one of them seemed to actually use the weight of his body to smash his knee into her neck/upper back, forcing her face into the pavement.
The only video I've been able to find of this incident is a secondary video of a TV screen during the live broadcast. This clip begins during the middle of the event, after the worst of the violence:
http://youtu.be/61FhppD8FNo
Perhaps someone can obtain the original video of the whole incident from KCAL9?
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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The whole world is watching.
said on 12/2/2011 @ 4:30 am PT...
Reviewing the videos of "Tyson Zoltan Heder" and the "girl with pink pants", it seems that their arrests may be associated and possibly happened at the same time. (Is Heder the individual being arrested in the background of the video of the "girl with pink pants"?)
This could make it easier to obtain KCAL9 footage of the young woman's arrest.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 12/2/2011 @ 4:32 am PT...
If the Senate Bill becomes law they could have military people there who could accuse @OakFoSho of terrorism then seize him and take him to GITMO and hold him there indefinitely without formal charges or trial.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Ralph
said on 12/2/2011 @ 7:17 am PT...
DREDD @ #5, We won't have to wait for it to become law. It's already in the books, as I posted on your blog...
President Obama's January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts (plural). "Anyone stating a radical change to (US) Government is a Homegrown Domestic Terrorist". If you start to do the research into President Obama's January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts and find "Indefinite Detentions" then you are on the right track.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Randy D
said on 12/2/2011 @ 7:26 am PT...
Regarding the last clip, it is standard procedure for police to charge the victims of police beatings with "assault". The only action necessary is TO BE BEATEN by police: if that happens you WILL be charged with assault, even if you did nothing but get your skull in the way of their baton. This charge gives them leverage to get away with unprovoked beatings.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 12/2/2011 @ 7:57 am PT...
Ralph @6,
Professor Jonathan Turley's Blog says this:
In one of the greatest attacks on civil liberties in this country’s history, Democratic and Republican Senators voted yesterday to approve a measure as part of the $662 billion defense bill that would allow for the military to hold both citizens and non-citizens indefinitely without trial — even those arrested on U.S. soil.
(Professor Jonathan Turley)
Have you noticed that no Occupy people have been taken to GITMO yet under the "old" law?
If that changes refer back to this law.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 12/2/2011 @ 8:23 am PT...
Ralph @6,
There is no "post" or comment from you on my blog.
I wanted to add this to show that the Supreme Court is not on the same page as the Senate:
At this difficult time in our Nation’s history, we are called upon to consider the legality of the Government’s detention of a United States citizen on United States soil as an “enemy combatant” and to address the process that is constitutionally owed to one who seeks to challenge his classification as such. The United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit held that petitioner’s detention was legally authorized and that he was entitled to no further opportunity to challenge his enemy-combatant label. We now vacate and remand. We hold that although Congress authorized the detention of combatants in the narrow circumstances alleged here, due process demands that a citizen held in the United States as an enemy combatant be given a meaningful opportunity to contest the factual basis for that detention before a neutral decisionmaker.
(Hamdi v. Rumsfeld). Neither did the dissent of Scalia & Stevens in Hamdi uphold what the Senate did.
What the Senate did is not the law now. We can only hope for a veto, which is not now likely, or that the Supreme Court will strike down that very, very alien law if it comes before the court.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Ralph
said on 12/2/2011 @ 8:56 am PT...
DREDD @9,
I posted my comments on your site. I went back and copied and pasted those comments here. Something wrong with your site's comments window.
Occupy America! Or lose it!
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 12/2/2011 @ 9:39 am PT...
Ralph @10,
Hmmmm ... others have posted there today. Anyway, thanks for the info though, will check it out.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 12/4/2011 @ 7:15 pm PT...
Thank you Brad and other guests on your website for posting this and so much other important events and issues going on in the United States.
Protesters have got to understand that the armed loose cannon cops in riot gear are not the brightest tools in the shed and have no problem using excessive or lethal force on them.
The treasonous lying 1% fcks who increased their militaristic powers using the false flag attack known as 9-11 excuse in the Patriot Act law are watching this inside their homes. These treasonous dangerous careless individuals are clearly drafting new policies for all their sellout political representatives in office to declare into law.
This is specifically aimed at any domestic opposition to their rule, however, the outrage of an American majority is unknown.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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Eddie
said on 12/4/2011 @ 7:41 pm PT...
The cunt running his mouth in the first video is a complete PUSSY!!!!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, CUNT!