Thanks.

My only problem is this. I listened a number of times near the top, where it appears Nader refers to the "Democrat Party."

I have always been a big fan of Nader and have trusted him as being one of the few public figures with integrity.

But why does he speak of a "Democrat Party," when that is obviously a Republican slur?

Yes, it was the Supreme Court which anointed Shrub in 2000. I do not think Nader cost Gore the election. Although the Floridians who voted for Nader in 2000, imho, were idiots.

Ralphie boy, they're called the Democratic Party, not Democrat.

so just curious how do you refer to the democratic party in the past tense

IE: the damn republicans did this

or those damn democratics did that,
would that be correct or would it be
those damn democrats did that?

OneGuy - I think any reasonable person would agree that "Democrat" is a noun and "Democratic" is an adjective, as in, "Members of the Democratic Party tend to be Democrats." How stoopid can a rebooblikanista be?

Potatoe Tomatoe, tomata potata, blagh. hell of problems being ignored while this BS clarification plays out over and over and over and over. How many of you made it here? http://financialpetition.org/ ?
Anyone? Anyone care? that's just one thing, I mean screw it if your looking forward to soup lines. Drink your beers and keep playing these stupid games.

Fuck that ego maniacal nut

He shows up every 4 years...for what?

Attention.

And nobody wants to listen to him anymore. Which, clearly, is a shame because he says a lot of things people should hear. I don't know why anyone's surprised about his disrespectful language. He has said over and over and over again that there is no difference between the parties; they're both bad for America; and he wants us to wake up to that.

That would be optimal....

We're just sick of hearing it from him.

http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/democrat.html

Certain Republican members of Congress have played the childish game in recent years of referring to the opposition as the “Democrat Party,” hoping to imply that Democrats are not truly democratic. They succeed only in making themselves sound ignorant, and so will you if you imitate them. The name is “Democratic Party.”

The “Ic” Factor
The New Yorker
by Hendrik Hertzberg

... There’s no great mystery about the motives behind this deliberate misnaming. “Democrat Party” is a slur, or intended to be—a handy way to express contempt. Aesthetic judgments are subjective, of course, but “Democrat Party” is jarring verging on ugly. It fairly screams “rat.”
...

I know there are bigger issues, but I find it strange that Nader of all people would make this mistake.

Democrats smell campaign rat

The BBC

The Republican presidential candidate, George W Bush, has denied that his team planted the word "Rats" as a subliminal message in a television advertisement criticising his Democrat opponent Al Gore....

It shows an image of Vice-President Al Gore, followed by fragments of the words "Bureaucrats decide". The word "RATS" briefly flashes on the screen before the entire word "bureaucrats" appears.

The ad has been broadcast in several key states. It contrasts the rival candidates' plans for prescription drugs, saying senior citizens will have more control over their health care under Mr Bush's proposals....

I'm just saying...

Oh my. I know this is o.t. & I apologize, but I just heard an audio clip of our moron/thug-in-chief saying in regard to the Myanmar disaster (and I paraphrase):

"...Here they are in the midst of this terrible c-c-catastrophe and they're refusing all the humanitarian aid that's being offered..."

um...excuse me? Can you say NEW ORLEANS? Ugh. I don't know where this monster gets the gall.

Joan #9, Doug Goodyear, the X Republican Convention set-up boy and Myanmar (Burma)

Link

The democrats are just as bad as the repugnants when it comes to quelling voices of dissent. The only time the repugnants and the democrats agree in an election year is when it comes to preventing 3rd parties from joining debates and being included on ballots.

I vote we refer to all politicians as "publicrats". Oh, rats, I forgot to put the space in....

If enough candidates demand hand counts perhaps something will change. Maybe not.

Bob Barr announced that he is running as a Libertarian because McCain is not conservative enough. He can balance Nader, and maybe both of them can demand hand counting. Why Ron Paul and Huckabee haven't demanded hand counts puzzles me. Paul received a fraction of the number of votes as he received in contributions. Don't folks usually vote for the candidate to whom they give money? Huckabee was far under expectations in some areas. What ever happened in New Hampshire with the count there? What's the current status of that? Dead?

Nader is a republican dupe. He has been a poor consumer advocate for thirty years, and pretty much killed the consumer advocate "industry," with his dogmatic statements.

Ralph, More power to your ideas. Keep working to end this insane war and bring our people home. You've been out there making speeches, doing interviews and writing articles and have written at least three books in the last 6 years. And you've been writing weekly commentary on the things that really matter, at http://www.nader.org .The question is where has the Press been on these important matters you discuss? where have the "Talking Heads" been on corporate crime and the profiteers of this war? The population is too busy being entertained and watching Sporting events to get involved, they take the easy route and don't bother to think, settling instead for snippets and quick slogans. Knowing what's going on in a Corporate controlled State takes work. Thank you Ralph, for all the good things you've done to protect the People of this Country. Amazing how quickly they forget, or perhaps they just don't know. Almost everyone's lives, or that of friends and relatives of theirs, have been improved and made safer because of you, Some wouldn't be alive today, if not for Ralph Nader! Their minds have been intentionally bombarded with with Corporate propaganda and the Democrat Party scapegoating machine. Clinton and that phony Terry McAuliffe should be ashamed of their comments regarding you. They continue the DNC scapegoating myth. thank you for your great service to this Country. More power to your ideas. http://www.votenader.org..... all the rest of you out there, buckle-up! ....... Other Great websites about Nader; Click on play at http://thewomandirector.com./ AND after that go to http://www.dianeszoo.com/ralphnader.htm to vote and comment

Anyone else notice how Nader and his supporters never talk shit about the Republican party?, or am I imagining that?

Nadir is now unsafe at any speed.

http://www.votestrike.com/

General Strike USA
on Sept. 11, 2008

A general strike is called for September 11, 2008, the anniversary of the 9/11/2001 attacks on New York City and Arlington, Virginia.
General strikes shut down the normal operations of a city, state, or nation for a period of time. These strikes aim to force action on a single issue or broader set of concerns. The 9/11/08 General Strike has a central location - http://www.votestrike.com - on the Internet, which is linked to and reproduced on a variety of other internet sites. The site states the rationale for the effort: The General Strike is a national call to action, from citizens to other citizens. It is not about a single issue. It is not an anti-war protest, a civil rights protest, an election fraud protest. It is not about torture, surveillance, corporate media, or the environment. This strike is about all these issues and more. We all have different concerns, but we all have the same concern: we are being lied to and this government does not represent us. Join other Americans in demanding truth, justice, and accountability. This is our country. And our world.

A National Call to Action: Thursday, September 11th, 2008
No school. No work. Buy nothing. Hit the streets!

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#15 Floridiot

It would be interesting to see if Nader in fact can be shown to have singled out the Democratic Party for his critiques. Post #14 refers to the "Democrat" party, praises Nader, and does not mention the Republicans. Just stating the facts, nothing personal.

Ugh, Nader represents so many good things that it is impossible to throw him under the bus. However, I am having difficulty with him saying "democrat party."

We are being snookered with divide and conquer used to justify election fraud, imho. It is very discouraging.

Good luck #17 with the civil disobedience.

It'll be one fine day when all of our problems are solved and we can spend our time arguing over grammar. There's plenty of criticism that one can apply to nader, but the fact is that he was one of the few to request a recount in 2004, and has done more in court to free up the political system to independents, third parties, and non-incumbents (which is admittedly not much) than anyone else. None of this is particularly advantageous to republicans, so calling him a stooge is a bit of a stretch. With the way the democrats have treated him, there should be little question as to why he trains his rhetoric towards them.

I provided links. This is beyond parsing grammar.

If he had a brain cramp and didn't mean it, fine. But many are seeing him as throwing the lesser of two evils under the bus. Does he want the country to move left or not? How much more fascism is he willing to take based on his principles? Shouldn't it be about our principles?

He's helping McCain, just like he helped Shrub.

Thanks Bev and Seb. sometimes..it is hard for me to understand the hatred for Ralph Nader from democrats. For him to have the nerve to say Repubs. and Dems. are just alike. How awful. ...then bash dems. but it's different somehow if you , whoever........ does it. Nancy Pelosi is too busy getting important legislation passed to impeach. Helloooooo. Anybody home?

72DAWG (#13)

NO, NEW HAMPSHIRE DATA IS NOT DEAD 'TALL! (Thanks so much for asking, Brother!) In fact, it's just coming to light. And get ready, cuz' it's a jawdropper. According to the experts reviewing the math, the NH PRIMARY was the worst. election. ever. The first, and the WORST.

That said, the following video is not for the faint of heart. It is by far the most textured, complex election matter I've ever tried to make sense of:

MANCHESTER WARD 5: INFLATED VOTE TOTALS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYz9O_SvIJI

My Dear BradBloggers: This video is not meant to stand alone. It is not our smoking gun--it is meant to be posted with the corresponding WONKY math from all over the state, and BLACK BOX VOTING's incredible video expose/ procedural report re: NH's BIZARRO n' FREAKY CHAIN OF CUSTODY.

Oh, please do watch/ circulate it/ rate it/ pass it along to a horrified neighbor (anyone know some NH voters we can get this to?) as I just spend two months of my life eating Funyons from my floor-pillow trying to (adequately and accurately) relate this data to voters...this video has haunted me above all others.

ALSO: BEV HARRIS has posted 10 MORE NH related videos (new Butch and Hoppy fun) over at www.blackboxvoting.org

Truly groundbreaking/ and very alarming.
Again, thanks for asking 72DAWG! More to come on NH VERY soon...

And this one:

NH REPUBLICAN RECOUNT 1a/ Ballot Irregularities: SEQUENCING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPLFhCq1XnA

We have THREE NH RECOUNT videos (aside from the MAN 5 video) all relating to the numerous ballot irregularities I witnessed in JUST ONE DAY OF FILMING in New Hampshire.

These include: NON-RANDOM BALLOT SEQUENCING/ GROUPING/ and BALLOTS WITHOUT PIGMENT. These can be viewed at my YOUTUBE CHANNEL along with a CONVENIENT PLAYLIST of all BBV's recent work so it can be circulated with one simple link.
http://www.youtube.com/v..._list?p=9ECEABC09579F656

An interesting note: In trying to get to the bottom of the MAN 5 craziness, I expressed alarm to a colleague that my HIT-RATIO for filming anomalies on DAY 1 of the REPUBLICAN RECOUNT was quite high. To my shock, he told me that I would have gotten the same number of GROSS DISCREPANCIES from ANY DAY I had filmed this recount...

Floridiot #10,

Thanks for the link - interesting, & filed under Yet Another Horrible Brick in the Creeping-Fascism Wall. Canada is looking better & better.

Dredd #16,
Thanks for making me laugh in the midst of this freaking horrorshow

Jeannie Dean #22,

You say "..And get ready, cuz' it's a jawdropper.."

I so want to believe that. There have been so many jaw-droppers. Sometimes New Orleans tops my list of horrors...sometimes Abu Ghraib..and on & on & on.

Forgive my disillusionment. I hope you (WE!) prevail in New Hampshire. And thank you for what you do.

I feel you, Sister. I know. What a HYDRA we all face...

However, I do feel (and this ain't just my usual bi-polar Polyanna vs. Cassandra type typing that follows so many smallish victories turned huge defeats), Joan, I think that we have a real shot at a new level of citizen awareness with the NEW HAMPSHIRE data...it's just so very unacceptable.

Turns out the machines have 163 times the acceptable failure rate allowed by HAVA. Proof is easy and forthcoming, once framed correctly/ trick will be circulating this whopper of a BOTCHED election and SOON. We have some VERY interesting, untried, inspired ideas on how to do this.
I'm working on it around the clock...with MUCH hope. Wait until my RON PAUL/ KUCINICH supporters (and yes, OBAMA folks too!) get a LOAD of this LOAD!

My achilles heel is, and always will be, the EMPOWERMENT of EDUCATED CITIZENS, waking up (albeit VERY slowly where this forward thinking group is concerned) in time to wrestle back control of our Government--at all levels. Joan, I see it. It's HAPPENING--in frustrating fits and starts, to be sure--but ooooHHHHh, Joan--my optimistic inner Polyanna is prevailing over my poor, broken-hearted Cassandra; and despite her attempts to brace me for the worst, even she is encouraged...

Best, Sister! And you're very welcome...there is no more honorable use of my time.

Please upload Matt Gonzalez's footage to YouTube, when you have the chance.

Best wishes,
Jurgen Rommel Vsych
Nader/Gonzalez Campaign Filmmaker

#11, 14, 19, responses are the only 3 out of 27 that make a lick of sense.

I expect much more from Brad Blog readers than spewing full blown Reich wing propaganda (Saying democrat instead of Democratic) BFD, with how all 3rd parties have been treated by "Democrats"
and Rethuglicans how can anyone blame him, well anyone that hasn't clearly swallowed the blue pill with their PropagandAid at least.

Ralf Nader and The GREEN PARTY have done more to try and stop Election Fraud than the ENTIRE CONGRESS made up of Complicit Democrats & Insane Rethuglicans, both parties which to anybody with any sense can clearly see are BOTH Complicit in the Crimes committed the last 8 years.

If the Democrats were not Complicit in the War Crimes, Crimes against humanity, TREASON, just to name a few in the past 8 years then please explain how in the hell "Impeachment was off the table" immediately when they were put back in power in 06'?.
Why do they keep on handing over 100s of BILLIONS of tax payer $$ to a known Lying War Criminal that everyone knows stole 2 elections?

All they had to do was simply not put the spending bill in the floor, period, case closed and can not be vetoed.

Because Nader said Democrat?

You people need to get a grip.

The GREEN PARTY is about the only chance this country has to get back on its feet and start removing these criminals that have infected the entire body politic in this country.

When the 2000 election was stolen who was it that protested immediately and came right out and stated the election was stolen by an illegal action of the SCOTUS?

GREEN PARTY

When the 2004 election was blatantly stolen what party was it that demanded recounts and spent what little money they had to try & get some resemblance of justice?

GREEN PARTY.

The Democrats DID NOTHING WHATSOEVER!
In fact worse than nothing, Kerry did cart wheels & back flips as fast as he could up to the podium to concede as fast as possible without a single objection from the "Democrat Party".

I am embarrassed to see Brad blog readers spew such crap.

Nader did nothing to affect the 2000 or 04' elections, he and the Green Party were the ONLY ones to stand up for the 98% of us that were disenfranchised by blatantly stolen elections by Reich wing fascist.

WTFU people.

There are a number of outstanding Democratic politicians with integrity. While many of them like Pelosi have been a big letdown, it is in the nation's best interest to vote for Democrats over Republicans. Until American govt. adopts a Parliamentarian approach, a vote for third party candidates is a vote against one of the other candidates. People can look back in history and see how John Anderson, Ross Perot, Ralph Nader, and others have hurt the candidate more alligned to their beliefs.

Sadly you have it backwards.

It is the totally corrupt Duopoly of the Dem/Rep scam & propaganda which you just repeated is why 3rd parties find it impossible to get elected even though they are the FAR BETTER candidate.

In reality BTW if you live in a red state and vote Dem then you may as well vote Green Party because your VOTE WILL NOT COUNT anyway.

Yet another scam that needs to be changed (Electoral College) because it throws away 10s of Millions of votes every election and makes stealing election child's play.

All that needs to be done is to abolish the electoral college and demand that 3rd & 4th parties be recognized equally, equal airtime, equal debate time and nobody in their right mind would vote Republican again.
and Democrats would be forced to clean house or face the same fate.

What we have as so called "government" right now is nothing but Organized Crime run by fools.

Oh and BTW every American SHOULD "vote against one of the other candidates" because they ALL suck, they are ALL Lying, they are ALL corrupt.
If Obama gets elected he will not change a damn thing.

We will still be in Iraq for years, most if not all of the clearly unconstitutional bills passed in the last 8 years (Patriot Act, MCA, etc) will remain in place.
The treasonous war criminals in this administration will not face charges.
The main change will be that we have a president that isn't a blithering idiot that will be capable of making a speech without embarrassing himself.

If you want "Real Change" then vote Green.