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"SIBEL EDMONDS SPEAKS TO UK SUNDAY TIMES: SAYS U.S. OFFICIALS INVOLVED IN RELEASE OF NUKE SECRETS TO TURKEY, PAKISTAN, IRAN, OTHERS, POSSIBLY EVEN AL-QAEDA"
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Floridiot
said on 1/6/2008 @ 3:46 am PT...
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Dredd
said on 1/6/2008 @ 5:47 am PT...
The preznit blush claims to spy on us to save us from "turrists" while his regime outs CIA agents who are really working to protect us, and as his regime sells nuclear secrets to "turrists"?
What will happen if this and this get out? The NIST report concerning 9-11 is under appeal/review by well known architects and engineers as to its accuracy and factual well being. NIST admits in writing that it cannot explain the government's conspiracy theory as far as building 7 and towers one and two (ibid).
Will Amurka ever turn back into America if Sibel's story is too emotionally difficult to believe for many people?
Even when it is already on the record that government officials and government agents have spied for foreign nations?
And remember Feeney helping the Chinese spy who plead guilty in Florida? The one Clint Curtis disclosed?
That bushies do the same is not at all difficult for me to believe, since they even wanted to sell our ports to mid-east nations who openly supported the Taliban. Yep, the same nation that Halliburton moved its headquarters to.
Treason against America is alive and well in BIG BROTHER'S Amurka.
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Floridiot
said on 1/6/2008 @ 6:32 am PT...
9-11 CD is a distraction from the real story above IMO.
It doesn't help Sibel get her story out, does it ?
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Pat #1
said on 1/6/2008 @ 7:41 am PT...
...OMG. Would this also explain why they offed the electable Pakistani candidate? After all, they gun used was exclusively ISI. That's just guessing though...
Sibel and others took an oath to defend this country, not an oath to protect the president or secret back room meetings and lies. We need more like her that know these dealings and do their sworn duties and put these criminals out of business.
Tonight Sibel, I raise my glass to you for a toast and/or for to get toasty/toasted.
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Michael
said on 1/6/2008 @ 7:44 am PT...
Let me pass this along:
My problem with this article is, that it is published in The Sunday Times, which is one of the worst war advocate and profiteer Murdoch's propaganda papers. 'The Sunday Times' and propaganda-media owner Rupert Murdoch, have for as long as is known cooperated with the CIA/Mossad, the UK's MI5 and MI6 and the rest of the spooks.
Murdoch's papers write about the 9/11 massacre, but still - contrary to the truth - stick to the official US/UK version and brainwashing: Osama's bin Laden's ragheads did it.
Nothing in those pro-war papers gets published - and certainly not this kind of 'information' in those outlets - that isn't aimed at certain groups. If you check the source, you'll see that Murdoch is a disinformation pest for mankind.
So, I'm inclined to say that @S. Balu is quite correct, in seeing the item as 'CIA/Mossad propaganda'.
In reality it was as Tony S. writes: "The CIA pressed Dutch govt. not to interfear, (this must be a Freudian slip... -HR) claiming they were after more suspects surrounding Khan.
That's how he got away with the stolen nuclear secrets. This was publicly stated by Ruud Lubbers, former Dutch Prime Minister a couple of years ago."
And Lubbers - who also was the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) - stated clearly that the CIA and its managers are guilty of nuclear proliferation. - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/38pj2a
Now: we know that Sibel Edmunds has a unique 'gag order' as 'The Sunday Times' in this article describes. And that this 'gag order' is global and until further notice by the US/UK junta's henchmen: "The US attorney-general has imposed a state secrets privilege order on her, which prevents her revealing more details of the FBI’s methods and current investigations."
So it's logical to ask why Sibel Edmunds now is published worldwide, and - the gag order doesn't count here - is allowed to be quoted by Murdoch's paper and read by everybody?
Why, who and on what level was 'permission' given for this in the US and decided to publish this about the nuke proliferation?
Concerning Sibel Edmunds, the use which is made of her and to what she now is said to have heard and seen: ''Her story shows just how much the West was infiltrated by foreign states seeking nuclear secrets. It illustrates how western government officials turned a blind eye to, or were even helping, countries such as Pakistan acquire bomb technology.
The wider nuclear network has been monitored for many years by a joint Anglo-American intelligence effort. But rather than shut it down, investigations by law enforcement bodies such as the FBI and Britain’s Revenue & Customs have been aborted to preserve diplomatic relations.'' [end excerpt]
According to this not to be trusted article: "Khan was close to Ahmad and the ISI. While running Pakistan’s nuclear programme, he became a millionaire by selling atomic secrets to Libya, Iran and North Korea."
Meaning: whom can we blame for the next - probably nuclear - 'false flag' operation? Those "infiltrated foreign states seeking nuclear secrets"?
We all know that the Pakistani 'spooky thugs' from ISI, are the 'little brothers' of the CIA/Mossad, trained and many times paid by them, and get most of their orders from them. There are small rogue groups too, and those are not only dangerous but can be used to set up 'black ops'.
So the one to blame - like the stop of the Dakar rally - http://tinyurl.com/3e3pvn - is again the fictitious 'al Qaeda' and the dead Osama bin Laden, just referring to the timeline here:
"2001 - Weeks before 9/11, Khan’s aides meet Osama Bin Laden to discuss an Al-Qaeda nuclear device."
The drumbeat in the major media now will be: and the rogue states got 'm!
Original article in Murdoch's propaganda paper 'The Sunday Times' - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/2s2key
This is a world of smoke and mirrors, but, as the old Sahrahoui said:
"Never drink from a well you don't know."
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J.S. Lucas
said on 1/6/2008 @ 8:04 am PT...
While we are all very glad to hear this info finally getting out, I wonder how much of it was gained by the illegal wiretapping going on, even before 9/11.
This may end up being used as justification for illegal surveillance.
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Pan
said on 1/6/2008 @ 8:08 am PT...
There is no doubt that "Sum of all fears" will happen if US keep this crooks in the government. I think US is most corrupt country in the world. US need some serious cleanup from top to bottom.
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 1/6/2008 @ 8:15 am PT...
9/11 would has neva happened if Gore wasn't ousted in the 1999 coup
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DeighvedHSternMD
said on 1/6/2008 @ 8:36 am PT...
I have a couple of questions that perhaps could be passed on to Sibel:
Is her story the key to understanding the real motives for White House action against Valerie Plame and Joseph Wilson?
Does the Plame-Wilson story hold the key to understanding why there was no follow-through on the investigation of Sibel's story, despite demonstrable evidence and motivation for moving on it by elements within the government?
Think about it for a second: Valerie Plame ran an undercover operation that tracked movement of Nuclear technology and materials around the world, with a main focus of interest, presence, and activity centered in Turkey.
What if interested parties high in the administration caught wind of an active investigation coming close to the core of these activities, so they outed her in order to shut off the investigation?
The act of outing her was high-risk. WAY too high risk to be explained by simple political revenge... But preventing the wholesale incarceration of your power structure could certainly inspire such a risky undertaking.
Something to consider...
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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The Pakistani Spectator
said on 1/6/2008 @ 8:59 am PT...
Hello ,
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COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 1/6/2008 @ 10:09 am PT...
Floridiot #3
Sibel is a 9-11 conspiracy afficionado, but she does not buy the official government conspiracy theory:
Alex Jones: You wouldn't be surprised if elements or criminal elements or private contractors were involved in 9/11?
Sibel Edmonds: No, I wouldn't be surprised.
Alex Jones: So you wouldn't be surprised like many others, because of the evidence and the cover-up you've seen, if 9/11 was an inside job?
Sibel Edmonds: At this point, I'd have to say no, I wouldn't be surprised.
(Sibel Interview). Some of the information she has includes real 9-11 facts but of course many folk are afraid to consider that aspect of Amurka. The truth about Amurka replacing America is too scary for some to believe and the presstitutes are and have been on a propaganda campaign to cover it all up. Standard fare for the MSM.
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Floridiot
said on 1/6/2008 @ 10:50 am PT...
That's right Dredd, I certainly believe (most) of it too, but we all know what happens when 'controlled demolition' or 'inside job' gets thrown at people...it discredits everything else that might lead people to believe anything about this part of the story that needs to be told first IMO.
If I said 'Controlled demolition' was a piece of dis-info (propaganda) put out by the spooks to keep us from finding out the real truth of 9-11, would you believe it ?, well I do
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Thick-Witted Liberal
said on 1/6/2008 @ 11:01 am PT...
Brad,
Thanks. You are the news!
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ewastud
said on 1/6/2008 @ 11:06 am PT...
Even if Al Gore had prevailed to become President in 2000, perhaps he would have soon met with an untimely death. Remember, Neo-con-friendly Joe Lieberman was his VP. Was that Gore's choice or some other heavyweight funder of the Democratic Party? This is all highly speculative, but I have wondered if Lieberman was not a Bush-Cheney/Neo-con camp infiltrator of the Democratic Party that would have prevailed whatever happened in the 2000 election.
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Anil
said on 1/6/2008 @ 11:09 am PT...
This article is very interesting. But if you go deeper, Check out the following link. It suggest that the USA had two different agencies, one trying to stop Pakistan from getting arms and the other trying to help it. Makes you think this is part of the USA's goal to destabilize South Asia by helping Pakistan in a method to slow India's growth.
http://www.democracynow...._reporter_andrew_levy_on
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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lukery
said on 1/6/2008 @ 11:11 am PT...
DeighvedHSternMD - there certainly has been a lot of speculation to that end, although we haven't been able to confirm the motivations of those who outed Plame.
This post might be of interest to you to help understand what we know.
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newjesustimes
said on 1/6/2008 @ 12:44 pm PT...
> If I said 'Controlled demolition' was a piece of
> dis-info (propaganda) put out by the spooks to
> keep us from finding out the real truth of 9-11,
> would you believe it ?, well I do
- Floridiot
I would certainly consider it, but I believe the opposite. There's plenty of evidence right from the mainstream news of all the bombs going off in and under the towers. The only reason to deny it is to make LIHOP plausible, which it's not.
Silverstein had to get rid of his asbestos nightmare and probably wanted to do some insurance scam for years. Then on 911 Cheney's actions were HIGHLY suspicious meanwhile some equally suspicious Isrealis danced while documenting the event and the rest is history.
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Agent 99
said on 1/6/2008 @ 12:47 pm PT...
Again, only part of your story.
...decided to divulge some of that information...
[emphasis mine]
I think shrinks call this "alternation"... a way of keeping interest focused on oneself. A little information alternating with quiet.
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 1/6/2008 @ 2:03 pm PT...
Thank you for your strength and conviction Ms. Edmunds because your patriotism is an inspiration to all world people trying to save our planet.
Truth will lead to the removal and life imprisonment of the treasonous lying bush/cheney administration. OUR current U.S. political system that favors the reign of influence by the 1%er corporatists MUST END. These skull and bonesmen and their propaganda machine are the biggest corrupt terrorists that WE THE PEOPLE have to deal with or face the consequences.
We can stop them from doing any more damage to our world by fostering a truth movement like at B blog. The total damage done to our country and world is still on going because the U.S. Justice system is so corrupted that they STILL REMAIN IN POWER.
Alberto Gonzalez, bush's previous choice for Attorney General pushed through congress on the same day when the 2004 presidential rigged electors of New Mexico, Nevada, Ohio, and Florida couldn't "recall" virtually anything under oath that happened under his tenure before stepping down.
Would you really expect this despicable lawyer from bush's camp given command of the U.S. Justice Department to investigate the bush/cheney crime family? Is anyone really that stupid to believe that criminals are gonna implicate themselves? Not in this life. But you could make these bastards step down like Nixon and that's a start.
How disgustingly obvious your control in the U.S. mass media by putting putin, gw bush, and hitler back in the day on the cover of TIME magazine. Describing them favorably as modern man of the year as opposed to the corrupt power hungry good for nuthin murderous leaders that they are.
Abolish U.S. politicians from accepting multi-national corporate contributions AND you take away their influencial power.. power that reverts back to WE THE PEOPLE.
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nigeldh
said on 1/6/2008 @ 2:27 pm PT...
And I wonder how many of these folks show up in the PMA, Deborah Jeane Palfrey, Pamela Martin & Associates, phone records?
I know that the first PMA phone record I looked at had a number that linked back to a non-junior person. But with a 10 year old phone number a number of folks can have had it.
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naschkatze
said on 1/6/2008 @ 3:03 pm PT...
Praise God, if he exists, this story is spreading on the Internet today. I've linked it to a couple of blogs, and it is on Raw Story as well as here and getting discussion on a C & L. thread on McGovern's call for impeachment. The crack has appeared in the dam I hope. If true, this story is treason plain and simple like Robert Hanson's. Just when you believe you can't read anything more corrupt and criminal about the Bush administration, something else always turns up. Anyway, thanks BradBlog.
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Off the Grid
said on 1/6/2008 @ 3:04 pm PT...
If CNN ran this story I might watch TV again. Nah.
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Dredd
said on 1/6/2008 @ 3:08 pm PT...
Floridiot #12
The last thing one wants to do is make a decision. The first, second, and third things a person wants to do is investigate to get the facts.
All Sibel has said is that she does not believe the official government story printed in the 9-11 Commission Report. She does not offer to tell the truth (i.e. make conclusions) about it before the investigating is over. She has reason to believe strange things were and are going on but can't tell all.
Hundreds, thousands, and now millions of people are of her opinion. Architects and engineers, commercial airline pilots, and a host of other professionals question as Sibel does. Neither Sibel nor those folks are spooks.
And all they want is a proper, professional, investigation.
One past director of NIST, at the world conference on fire safety, said this:
"I wish that there would be a peer review of this," he said, referring to the NIST investigation. "I think all the records that NIST has assembled should be archived. I would really like to see someone else take a look at what they've done; both structurally and from a fire point of view."
"I think the official conclusion that NIST arrived at is questionable," explained Dr. Quintiere. "Let's look at real alternatives that might have been the cause of the collapse of the World Trade Towers and how that relates to the official cause and what's the significance of one cause versus another."
(AE911 and OpEdNews). It isn't kooky to want it done right. Then we will know if spooks did anything or not. And we will know the facts in a more scientific and professional manner.
"You're doin' a heckuva job 9-11 Commission" doesn't cut it anymore.
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Floridiot
said on 1/6/2008 @ 3:43 pm PT...
Dredd, I only see one problem with asking for a proper investigation, has there ever been one in the past ?...none that I can think of, especially the more pungent crimes and when it's the investigators/Government trying to cover up their own mess.
The insurance company paid up on the towers.
I would rank (pun intended) this one up with the worst by far.
We are only left to speculate.
They are the master illusionists.
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Big Dan
said on 1/6/2008 @ 3:43 pm PT...
How about those "turrists" losing their homes by taking advantage of subprime lenders & lobbyists, too!
Sibel Edmonds is a "turrist", too! And how about all those "turrists" trying to hold the Bush regime accountable for trashing the Constitution?
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Big Dan
said on 1/6/2008 @ 4:52 pm PT...
Funny, now when you look back, you can see they had one of the bases covered...if Al Gore was president they had Lieberman as VP! Lieberman is such a traitor to the Democratic Party, he's not even a Democrat anymore! Who's idea was it to pick Lieberman as Gore's VP? Also, remember Gore wouldn't endorse Lieberman on his run for president, and everyone thought that was odd, since he was Gore's VP pick?
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NoOneYouKnow
said on 1/6/2008 @ 6:32 pm PT...
Congrats to Sibel for getting her story out --- she's a patriot. On the other hand, that the story came out in the Murdoch-owned Times: I feel like we've gotten deeper into the story, but it's still to dark to see what's really going on. I'm worried about another false-flag "terrorist" operation, though, and completely galled at the unwillingness of the U.S. press to do its job.
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Dan
said on 1/6/2008 @ 7:26 pm PT...
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TomR
said on 1/6/2008 @ 7:52 pm PT...
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Bluebear2
said on 1/6/2008 @ 8:18 pm PT...
ewastud #14
Very interesting - I never though of that angle!
It would make sense.
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ROBinDALLAS
said on 1/6/2008 @ 8:55 pm PT...
I sure hope this story gets the legs it deserves. Congratulations to Sibel Edmunds and to Brad for putting it out here for us.
I find it most interesting that Grossman was helpful in getting certain suspects out of the country before they "spilled the beans" about 911.
Oh what a wicked web they weave.
Could this finally be the SMOKING GUN?
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Amerikagulag
said on 1/6/2008 @ 11:43 pm PT...
Aravosis is way behind. He's still hoping Hillary wins.
Cudos Brad!
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Mikael Rudolph
said on 1/7/2008 @ 12:25 am PT...
Great work Brad & crew,
And thank you Sibel Edmonds!
This really has gone viral on the net... at least on the blogs and the alternative news sites. Nothing in the corporate press as of yet. I won't be holding my breath.
I see Colleen Rowley at protest events around the Twin Cities now and then. It would be very interesting to have a chat with her about this. Ray McGovern, Larry Johnson and Valerie Plame would be excellent sources to tap into as well. I wish I could get directly in contact with them. I am sure you can Brad! Let's hear their perspective.
It is so tough to figure out how to fight this bloodless (on the surface) coup through which we are losing our nation as it has been happening on so many fronts, but pushing for the truth to be revealed and sharing it as thoroughly as possible is a huge part of the remedy.
Let's just hope these revelations don't push these thugs into the corner. They are far too evil without being desperate.
One thing that is being underplayed in all of this is how many of the people 'named' by the combination of the Times article, the picture page on Edmonds' website and lists put out by Larisa Alexandrovna among others is how many have dual American and Israeli citizenship.
The truth needs to come out and if it has to happen under a barrage of charges of anti-semitism, then so be it. These treasonous thugs need to be prosecuted - no matter what nation(s) they pretend to call home.
January 19th, 2009 is not too late for impeachment.
Mikael Rudolph
www.ImpeachforPeace.org
www.wexlerwantshearings.com - sign the petition today!
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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Carol Davis
said on 1/7/2008 @ 1:24 am PT...
in the paragraph:
Despite broken promises for hearings on her case by U.S. Congressman Henry Waxman (D-CA), support from Senators Chuck Grassley (R-IA) and Patrick Leahy (D-MI), and a number of mainstream exposés several years ago detailing aspects of her story before she was willing to break her unprecedented "States Secrets Privilege" gag order, none of the American broadcast media outlets took her up on her offer.
If Patrick Leahy is who you truly meant he is (D-VT)
[ED NOTE: Whoops! Thank you, Carol. Comes of writing in the middle of the night on little or no sleep, I guess! Now corrected. --- BF]
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Mary
said on 1/7/2008 @ 2:58 am PT...
Somebody said Congress was threatened (by the White House???) with no 2008 election (because of a nuke attack on Capitol Hill???) if impeachment (and other investigations???) went forward. If Dems run out the clock and win big in November, I fear there WLL BE A NUKE ATTACK on Washington 1/20/09 while Bush and Cheney are conveniently out of town.
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Dredd
said on 1/7/2008 @ 2:58 am PT...
TomR #29
Thanks to your link, I finally found RLM, an ancient Bradblogger who drifted away into the fog some time back. It was good to know he is still on the job, and he posted the first response to her article on that blog!
While she is to be respected, let's not forget that Brad not only printed names in this story, he linked the name to events!
The Brad dude has what it takes to turn Amurka back into America, and we applaud that loudly!
Lets give him some cash support to go along with our moral, sisterly, soulful, and brotherly support.
Brad is an American who can't stand Amurka.
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 1/7/2008 @ 3:49 am PT...
Floridiot #24
Bro, you asked: "... has there ever been one in the past?".
Well, lets recap. The spirit of this thread is one of hope. The british newspaper has printed a bombshell that has generated hope. Hope for a truthful and complete investigation of the things Sibel wants to tell, but the preznit blush regime has ordered her not to tell.
So it seems that some women in the world, like Sibel and Bhutto, are standing up to power and demanding the truth and demanding it now.
Chickenshit men in the MSM do not seem to have the courage to do that, so lets give these American and other freedom loving women their "day in court".
Let's hope there is still the ability to do a proper investigation, and that Amurka has not utterly blinded over America.
Let's get behind this flicker of hope ... but without becoming intoxicated with hope, and as you intended to say, mixing some sober doubt in as well.
Onward!!!
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mparker
said on 1/7/2008 @ 7:29 am PT...
Sibel publicly stated that she had a huge story and she would speak to anyone in the MSM who would print it.
That she had to leave the US and cross the ocean to find a paper that would print it, tells you all you need to know about our corrupted media.
Bush's planned attack on Iran also seems to be going just swimmingly. First we'll have a couple of theats back and forth and then we get our new "Gulf of Tonkin".
It's their belief that WWIII would be a great distraction from Afghanistan, Iraq, NOLA, the Economy and all of Bush's other wonderful successes.
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Gregory Wonderwheel
said on 1/7/2008 @ 7:48 am PT...
Video link is no longer working.
Thanks for telling this story again and again. Eventually it may make sense to the MSM. I know that it is easy for regular people to understand once they hear it.
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 1/7/2008 @ 8:03 am PT...
. . . these bastards sold out America ... all for filthy lucre!
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ROBinDALLAS
said on 1/7/2008 @ 8:25 am PT...
Thank you Sibel Edmonds and Brad Friedman for bringing this to the public. So far the MSM has not touched this story. This is as of Monday morning. WTF?
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Ancient
said on 1/7/2008 @ 9:42 am PT...
What I want to know is, when does NATIONAL SECURITY out weigh phony state secrets privilege used to cover up their crimes?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
WOULD THE MILITARY BE WILLING TO STEP IN?
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Big Dan
said on 1/7/2008 @ 10:20 am PT...
This is WAY worse than Watergate! Showing just to what extent the media is now controlled, since Watergate! The media shoud be ALL OVER THIS!
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Big Dan
said on 1/7/2008 @ 10:22 am PT...
Watch, ONE person will do a story on this in the CMSM at some point, way too late, and get some kind of "award"!
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Big Dan
said on 1/7/2008 @ 10:23 am PT...
"The next Woodward & Bernstein has cracked the case!!!"
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Dennis
said on 1/7/2008 @ 12:18 pm PT...
The mainstream media aren't about to touch this, they don't have the courage.
As example, recall that Phil Donahue tried to have a 50/50 exchange between liberals and conservatives on his show. He was told to have two conservatives for every liberal - which he didn't do.
There were complaints - not from his sponsors, but from other corporations. Donahue's network caved in.
This shows just how much the mainstream media cannot be trusted to be objective. It's the money that counts.
You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
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plunger
said on 1/7/2008 @ 2:12 pm PT...
While I greatly respect Larissa's reporting, she took a commenter on her site to task today for daring to mention the term "Zionist" to describe Dov Zakheim and other signatories to the PNAC.
http://www.atlargely.com...6206920#comment-96206920
This entire story cannot be understood unless and until yo put at its core, Mossad, and the Zionist (neocon) agenda to use 9/11 and all that has followed as the pretext to justify the creation of Eretz Israel.
Larissa claims to have insisted that people stop using the word "Zionist."
Now as yourself why that would be, AND, if she insists that people not pursue that portion of the story, how much she can actually be relied upon to reveal the ENTIRE TRUTH.
Pay very close attention to all of the disinformation and roadblocks that have and will attempt to distance Israel/AIPAC's role in all of these matters.
When you certain known Israeli apologists in the media writing stories designed specifically to hide Israel's direct role in 9/11 and the Sibel Edmonds story (all the same story), REVEAL THEIR TRAITOROUS BEHAVIOR.
http://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com
PS:
Do you really think the timing of the FAKE Iranian Naval Provocation is coincidental in light of the timing of these revelations?
How many more days will Cheney wait to nuke something in order to cover his own ass and demand that Mossad Mole Chertoff declare Martial Law?
COMMENT #48 [Permalink]
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plunger
said on 1/7/2008 @ 2:17 pm PT...
Media ownership study ordered destroyed
Sept 14, 2006
'Every last piece' destroyed
Adam Candeub, now a law professor at Michigan State University, said senior managers at the agency ordered that "every last piece" of the report be destroyed. "The whole project was just stopped - end of discussion," he said. Candeub was a lawyer in the FCC's Media Bureau at the time the report was written and communicated frequently with its authors, he said.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14836500/
"You can't tell any more the difference between what's propaganda and what's news."
FCC Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein
15 August, 2006
http://www.cbsnews.com/s...ational/main1900602.shtm
On ABC's Nightline, Monday, August 14, former hostage Jill Carroll recounted how the Iraqi insurgency was "like a family affair… what are you gonna do, arrest them all, kill them all?"
At that moment over on C-SPAN, President Bush, in the State Department's Treaty Room, was giving the answer:
Yes.
In the very next segment on C-SPAN, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and opposition leader Benjamin Netanyahu each delivered their own declarations of war in the Knesset. All three leaders, in the US and in Israel, pointed to Syria and Iran as the new front in the "war on terror."
This during a "cease-fire."
Did the FCC Report about MEDIA CONTROL reveal that the Zionists control the US Media?
Is that why a report, funded with your tax dollars, was destroyed?
DEMAND ANSWERS!
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Big Dan
said on 1/7/2008 @ 3:38 pm PT...
AND...Brad Friedman is on the INN Report on DISH channel 9415 Free Speech TV, right now...
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Big Dan
said on 1/7/2008 @ 4:06 pm PT...
Blockbuster outta site! Brad on the Inn Report on DISH Free Speech TV channel 9415! Great! Lenny Charles is great!
Brad was pimping something called the "bad blog"...or somethin' like that...didn't catch it...I TiVo'd it, though...
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Ries Baeten
said on 1/7/2008 @ 4:51 pm PT...
...and none of the above cared to update Sibel's Wikipage?
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Sally
said on 1/7/2008 @ 5:17 pm PT...
I havn't tuned in for a few days. Last night as I was drifting off to sleep I was thinking about Bush. Don't know exactly what any way I quickly saw a mountain lion with fangs bared viciously screaching. It was so vivid. It felt like it was definitly related to Bush. I am no psychic but have had the occasional vision usually in half sleep states.
He and others are probably pretty pissed about Sybel. I hope she's out of the country. Fly away for now Sybel to a country where the media will not cover up anything that happens to you.
I'll read the article now.
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Big Dan
said on 1/7/2008 @ 6:13 pm PT...
"Last night as I was drifting off to sleep I was thinking about Bush."
There's a word for that: a "nightmare"
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Sally
said on 1/7/2008 @ 7:22 pm PT...
Big Dan
Right. A nightmares what it was and what he (they) is.
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 1/7/2008 @ 9:38 pm PT...
Comment #53:
Big Dan, Way to weigh in with the comic relief:)
Sally, all kidding aside your vision you had when you were drifting into sleep was probably pretty accurate. Don't worry, the kit cat is really a spirit helper not gw bush.
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DMcD
said on 1/7/2008 @ 10:36 pm PT...
Holy bejesus !!!
What the hell is wrong with these people that they would not only forsake their own country and the safety of the worlds' innocents but jeopardize their own children's well-being !?! Not only that but to have a cooperative conspiracy involving sooo many morally bankrupt people helping them out. They seem to have no knowledge of the concept of "What goes around , comes around" (or Kharma). These people disgust me and should be in prison , for life or maybe even meet the fate of the Rosenburgs.
I see a lot of names in these articles but I'm surprised I'm not seeing the name "Cheney" in all this. Cheney , the 'nuke' advocate --- Cheney , the guy Armatage worked for --- Cheney , the one with the pull to make those FBI investigations "go away" --- Cheney , with the history of allowing Pakistan to acquire nuke technology during the Reagan years. Cheney !!
Edmunds --- my hero. Its all there but how can this issue be forced upon the mainstrean media ?? Maybe as a start , Bumper stickers --- "Who is Sibel Edmunds?" I challenged the ABC blog to pick-up this story , to no avail.
The biggest problem with getting this out there (as I see it) is that sooo many people are involved. If cornered , they'd likely get away with simply saying: "this is just more nonsense from the crackpot 'conspiracy theorists' --- only thing is that "it is real" , so real that it would be hard to convince our own countrymen that their own kind could be guilty of such treachery. It would be portrayed akin to the Kennedy assasination conspiracy theorists or even to accounts of UFO witnesses. People are so easily "fooled" by these liars.
Ideas ??
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 1/8/2008 @ 2:21 am PT...
Comment #56:
10. Bumper Stickers
9. Hwy bridge banners
8. People who are well connected on the net directing people to this Bradblog story.
7. Brad keeping this story up indefinetely and thereafter making it an easy reference point.
6. Photocopy the story and let friends read the NAMES>
5. Contact a person at a news media outlets and demand reporting this story especially U.S. free press periodicals.
4. Followup phone call to ensure investigation and when story will be breaking.
3. Email/mail a copy to your Congressman demanding an investigation.
2. Flood John Conyers jr. offices in the House of Representives Judiciary requesting an immediate investigation.
1. Refuse to let this story die like your life depends on it because when it's all said and done these parasitic destructive criminals have set a new low of theft and abuse of Executive branch powers. All in the name of personal gain, the bottom line, and an to extend powers defined in the Constitution by our Founding Fathers.
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truthilizer
said on 1/8/2008 @ 2:29 am PT...
Let's hope the day the corporate news media finally plans on running the story we don't have a much-feared "false flag" operation.
I'm doing my part. (Although, ashamed to admit, only now after the BRAD Blog had the cajones to run the story in the first place. I salute you, Brad.)
COMMENT #59 [Permalink]
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 1/8/2008 @ 2:56 am PT...
A full investigation should trigger additional checks and balances prior to the 2008 election all the way down to how they cheated to get into office. Election votes counted in secrecy by the same felons involved with the candidates who stole the U.S. election.
More than just lies and a breach of trust, these individuals who mask themselves as quote religeous caring neo-conservative republicans and democrats must be tried as the FASCIST 1%er corporatist lying murderers that they are.
bush/cheney government have carelessly endanger our national/world security, used our military as pawns, bankrupted our nation and corrupted the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK economy that's been in place adversely effecting most Americans. They have directed the reverse of 100's environmental laws and policies in congress always favoring polluters.
Much more that just the possibility of future false flag war games like on 9/11, these people must be immediately removed since they are presently afforded the full powers of their respective office in addition to additional powers they have taken in their tenure.
If necessary, a state militia must be assembled to enforce the removal and prosecution in a world court by a non-bush appointed judge. In addition, jailing without parole must be the call of the day for the bush/cheney admininstration criminals and their accomplices.
Never again can we allow our government to be controlled by the bottom line of corporate interests. Corporate interests,lobbies, and contributions must be forever eliminated from the US political system.
The on going part the corporate mass media played during the bush/cheney years must be reviewed. Since multi-national corporations run the airwaves, propaganda posing as truth. Killing, murder, and death dominates the news. News reporting has gotten away from the truth to a slant to how it directly effects the interests of their owners (corporate 1%ers). THIS MUST END.
Media must be allowed to be media ONLY. Even the ownership of print, TV, and radio forms of media owned by 1 parent company as changed thanks to Ronald Reagan should be broken up to ensure inaccurate propaganda by stories aren't run.
Lastly, our Federal agencies must be clensed. The Pentagon, CIA, FBI, all need new blood and all protocal changes must be reviewed and reverted in the best interests of our nation.
Dennis Kusinich for President. He is a man of the people and not a corporate sellout. I urge you all to listen to him speak or watch video on U-Tube. We need a call for peace and stop the escalation of nukes under bush to complete reduction.
COMMENT #60 [Permalink]
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Nunyabiz
said on 1/8/2008 @ 7:19 am PT...
Sadly Kucinich has zero chance because the corrupt MSM has done everything possible to make certain that he has no chance.
"" necessary, a state militia must be assembled to enforce the removal and prosecution in a world court by a non-bush appointed judge. In addition, jailing without parole must be the call of the day for the bush/cheney admininstration criminals and their accomplices""
Even sadder is the fact that this is really the only viable option left because these criminal elements have complete control of every single avenue that is normally used to put scum such as this in prison.
They have total control of the Supreme Court, the entire Congress and the MSM is without any question covering up the crimes and refusing to investigate. That leaves only one option.
The final sadness is that the American people will not rise up in the massive numbers needed to take this country back until its too late.
Our best chance is to take back the MSM first because until we have the MSM actually telling the truth instead of pure Reich wing propaganda then we will never have the absolute HATRED of ALL of Congress & these treasonous bastards that is NEEDED in order to get enough people off their damn asses to do something.
Human nature works on 2 extremes either Love or Hate is what makes a human being take action.
This is why even though approx. 50% of this country knows that 2 elections were blatantly stolen, that the entire Bush administration has committed treason & countless crimes have told so many bald faced lies it would take decades to document them all, have destroyed the Bill of Rights, attacked this country in a false flag attack on 9/11 and on & on the list is endless.
The reason nothing is happening and 10s of Millions are not marching on Washington is because of lack of one or the other (Love or Hate)
The majority of that 50% of this country that knows what is going on yet still does nothing is because they don't HATE this administration yet.
The majority of this country is just "indifferent".
We need the MSM to come out and tell the damn truth, tell the FACTS about 9/11, the FACTS about 2000/04' stolen elections, the FACTS about Iraq and all the lies told by this administration and do it non-stop until it freaking sinks in.
Then we will have the sheer unbridled absolute hatred that is needed for the human animal to put down his Big Mac and get off their collective fat asses and do something before its too late.
We have a system that is totally broken so no matter whom is elected (if there even is an election)in 08' it will make virtually no difference, the Democrats are so whipped & spineless that it makes me sick to look at them, the Rethuglicans are so corrupt & insane that nothing is going to change them.
We need a system overhaul, doing an oil change in an engine that just broke a crankshaft isn't going to fix anything.
COMMENT #61 [Permalink]
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lysias
said on 1/8/2008 @ 8:16 am PT...
The Internet kept the Downing Street Memo story alive after the Times of London broke it, and eventually forced the U.S. media to cover it.
The Internet can do the same with this story.
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Ries Baeten
said on 1/8/2008 @ 8:30 am PT...
Comment #56:
1. Update the Wikipedia website of Sibel and spell her name correctly at all times, out of respect.
COMMENT #63 [Permalink]
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RG
said on 1/8/2008 @ 8:55 am PT...
1)FIRST - the #3 guy at STATE is accused of getting terror/spy suspects out of the US. I now wonder now if this and similar 911 relics have new legs?
“SUSPICIOUS "MIDDLE EASTERNERS" CHEER TERROR ATTACK FROM MOVING VAN
TRIO WHO CHEERED ATTACK FACE BOOT AS ILLEGAL ALIENS
By AL GUART (NEW YORK POST) www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/
September 13, 2001 --- Three men who celebrated as the Twin Towers crumbled are facing deportation, The Post has learned. The men, described as illegal immigrants from the Middle East, were arrested Tuesday afternoon in a white Chevy van near the Meadowlands based on a tip from witnesses who saw them "cheering" and "jumping up and down" in Liberty State Park after the attack, a source said.
Witnesses took the plate number and the FBI sent out an alert to area cops, reading: "Vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack . . . Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion."
Port Authority cops nabbed the three as they drove along Route 3 in East Rutherford in the van, which had the words "Urban Moving Systems" painted on it. After grilling the men and searching the van in vain for explosives, the FBI turned the men over to the Immigration and Naturalization Service for deportation.”
2)SECOND – Top Pentagon officials are accused of actively targeting weak human resources within sensitive war departments for Foreign intelligence agencies to TURN!
How many more ‘dots’ have to be presented here before this information hits the headlines in the American media? Murdoch paper or not – the American people need to see this information – forget ObamavsHillary; or speed boats swarm US destroyers.
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 1/8/2008 @ 12:08 pm PT...
Comment #60:
Your love and hate motivation theory of the American human animal is a good way of explaining away a lot of the apathy of the US people. Your opinion that nothing will get done until it is to late however is only speculation.
Another idea to get the word out is to get this story to as many college newspapers as possible. Kids do not like to worry about politics for the most part although they are most emotional charged and harness the angst of youth. On a whole, once they learn this story, it will be like the Vietnam draft.
Kids didn't want a draft to fight a 1%er corporate war of lies for the men in Washington. This anger trickled down to the America's high school youth AND brought the end of the Vietnam War NOT some war mongering general's revisionist history that the US was victorious.
Tapping into the full blow anger of America's youth about these treasonous destructive criminals WILL END their reign of terror and help change the system.
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PigBag
said on 1/8/2008 @ 4:31 pm PT...
So when are the neocons going to set of a gas bomb (or nuke or biological bomb) in a US city (kill a million people), declare martial law, nuke Iran (kill another million people), fill up the concentration camp all over the US with anybody who can read (kill another million people), and sell each other stock options in Zyklon B.
Surely the neocons won't risk being found out - they will destroy the world first.
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DMcD
said on 1/8/2008 @ 9:27 pm PT...
'Grizzly Bear Dancer' ----- I like the way you think --- "you" , should run for office.
COMMENT #67 [Permalink]
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enzo
said on 1/9/2008 @ 8:06 am PT...
I concur with #9 that the Valerie Plame outing was about stopping her effective work in anti-wmd proliferation and not political payback for hero husband Joseph Wilson's statements.
I am frightened thinking that the Murdoch Times is planting a preview of an attack on the USA with nukes in the autumn of 2008 to consolidate support and emergency powers ushering in Rudolph Ghouliani to take over for Cheney-Bush2.
Careful newswatchers recall the Al-Q'aida chatter reported through spring and summer 2001 of an air based terror attack.
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I finally understand the fecklessness of the Dems in taking on letting Sibel Edmonds speak --- there is blame to spread around in both parties, and a lot of juicy embarrassing dirt on every politician and functionary. The results of which would be too unpredictable.
COMMENT #68 [Permalink]
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YuvbinDuped
said on 1/11/2008 @ 3:11 am PT...
The most important story in American history next to that of the 9-11 inside job ignored by our mainstream media, Congress and the BushCo controlled DOJ.
Not even a mention for or against Sibel Edmonds in our controlled news media. This is proof positive that not only is our media controlled by zionist interests, but so is our government.
Do you think Ron Paul knows who Sibel Edmonds is? He should!
This is about spying, secrets, and criminality all being censored. This is about the treason and traitorship our zionist "friends" by false flag ops via tyranny.
No investigative journalism here in America today.
America is broken beyond repair and the only candidate out there that wants to try to fix it is being labeled a racist by the AIPAC smear group.
Who says they can't keep 9-11 a secret and cover it all up? Most of America still believes bin Laden and his rag tag team attacked us on 9-11 because our controlled media fails to perform investigative journalism and divulge the facts.
Unless Ron Paul gets in office, the internet will soon be controlled too. We'll be like Nazi Germany passing information from person to person.
Your papers please?
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HadEnough
said on 1/13/2008 @ 6:40 am PT...
I hope you're getting everything from Edmonds that you can- I'm surprised she's still alive. Remember Chinagate- Clinton Administration officials were in on this as well. Someone's seeing to the same crowd getting elected no matter what the people think or vote for: bush/clinton/clinton/bush/bush/clinton? When are we going to start hanging people for treason? We must get out from under the military industrial complex, the special interests and take the government back. This is a set up for global war- global nuclear war, the demise of America and an overall nightmare just too horrible to contemplate.
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Mik
said on 1/21/2008 @ 6:16 pm PT...
We need to get the story of Sibel Edmounds into the main stream media. How can we do this? Mik
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anonymous
said on 1/23/2008 @ 1:59 pm PT...
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Dece
said on 1/27/2008 @ 7:43 pm PT...
Wham!!! Wake Me Up Before You Go Go.......
"Make it Big, 1984'
Forearms, wow.
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ilaçlama
said on 2/7/2008 @ 10:50 am PT...