Stephen Oravecz of Mahoning Valley’s Tribune Chronicle notices that there were a few problems in Ohio’s ‘04 Presidential Election, and more problems persist still today…
Hagan’s story may wind up in a documentary on the 2004 presidential election in Ohio being shot by filmmaker Dorothy Fadiman, who was nominated for an Academy Award in 1992 for her short subject documentary “When Abortion was Illegal: Untold Stories.”
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Hagan was just one of several Youngstown residents who described similar experiences and said they walked away not knowing for sure if the machine accurately recorded their choice. Others talked about how they had to wait in line for hours.
It was like watching “Fahrenheit 9/11” only the people on the screen are neighbors.
Fadiman’s coming documentary is only one reminder that the debate over the 2004 presidential contest in Ohio – which gave Bush his victory – is far from over.
Fadiman is a wonderful filmmaker, citizen and human being, by the way, who we’ve come to know since first meeting her at the Election Reform Conference in Nashville earlier this year. We’ve also been interviewed for the documentary mentioned above. Whether we’ll make the final cut will remain to be seen 🙂
Oravecz also discusses the still un-reported recent non-partisan GAO report confirming the problems with Electronic Voting Machines that we’ve tried to make noise about (to little, but somewhat growing, avail) of late:
Also, an editorial in yesterday’s Star-Gazette in New York references the GAO Report.
And in this week’s Rock River Times, in Illinois, Senior Editor Joe Baker notices as well.
So that’s one paper in New York, and another one called “Times”. We guess we’re getting closer…
Keep sending those cards and letters, people! The wingnut (ironcally enough) Townhall.com makes it very easy for you to do so! And yes…as you can see above…it matters!









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Excuse me ?!?
there’s no excuse!
Let’s hope the Toledo Blade jumps on the story.
WP’s right, there’s no excuse !
Hey Brad: Maybe I missed it — has Castro ever provided any evidence to back up the claim that Joe Wilson outed his wife? For that matter, does Castro have any evidence to back up the claim in comment #1? And if not, I think you should pull the plug on him. Or her. Or it. As the case may be.
I second the motion, Winter Patriot #6.
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oh yeah, I forgot, "scooter" libby’s gonna walk. But maybe Rove is Woodward’s source?(liberal hearts everywhere beam hopefully)
Agreed, WP. Either Castro produces evidence to back up his claim about "Wilson outing his own wife" or his comments of disinfo should simply be deleted from here on out.
Thanks for the reminder, WP.
Castro. Got that info? Cuz your horseshit is really trying my patience.
Castro,
How dare you judge me with your cowardly accusations!
The film WHEN ABORTION WAS ILLEGAL is about the fact that when clean, safe abortions are not available, women die. Excruciating deaths.
Whether you like it or not, that is a fact. Your cowardice is your fear of the truth.
You should go to Africa where I have been five times in the last few years…You should watch tens of thousands of women die from infections after unclean abortions because safe choices are not available. Their children are starving, they cannot feed one more mouth, they have no milk in their breasts for another infant. HOW DARE YOU PASS JUDGMENT ON ME, AS I DEFEND WOMEN WHO RISK THEIR LIVES IN A TRAGIC EFFORT TO TRY TO SAVE THEIR LIVING CHILDREN FROM STARVATION.
Dorothy Fadiman
PS Thanks to all of you who defended me in the face of Castro’s pathetic rant.
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#10: Well Brad-san, when other posters get away with the tactic of "if you dont believe it disprove it", I’ll stand on the same "logic". go ahead and behave like rush limbaugh and cut off voices you don’t like. I’m old enough to not care too much.
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oh this is taking forever. can you add a "ban me" button next to "submit’ so I can click it?
Dorothy,
I want to thank you for your extremely important work exposing the truth about the anti-abortion and anti family planning laws pushed by the theocrats in this country.
I remember the coat hanger butchery from the ’60s, here in this country and I’ve read many articles regarding the situation in Africa.
Funny thing – these pro-life folks seem to be more interested in making sure stem cells live out their natural life-cycle with quality care, but don’t give a whit about the child once its born – or the mother – or the siblings – or the father – or our soldiers – or innocent Iraqis.
Actually it’s not funny – it’s downright sick and kind of evil.
Re comment #18.
Kira,
You’ve emboldened me to speak out on a blog! I’ve never posted like this before…with passion; only a neutral comment once on this blog in the past. I told Brad I was a blog virgin. And no one resonded to that.
WHEN ABORTION WAS ILLEGAL rose from my own experience. I went to the back alleys as a college student. I had an unanesthetized, blindfolded procedure from a stranger….then septicemia and peritonitis. No one who hasn’t "been there" can know the agonizing desperation of a woman who does not want to bring an unwanted child into this world, for whatever reason.
Thanks, Kira.
Dorothy
Thanks, Dorothy.
Ohio: Kentucky North
God bless you Dorothy for your courage and conviction. The Bible-thumpers would do well to shut up and read their book because it never addresses the issue of abortion.
Here’s a great link for those who are interested:
How anti-abortion activists misrepresent the biblical record
[snip] … The condemning and supporting comes not from God but from those who do not take the time to read the Bible, in its own context, and decide for themselves the meanings therein.
For indeed, there is one passage in the Bible that deals specifically with the act of causing a woman to abort a pregnancy. And the penalty for causing the abortion is not what many would lead us to believe:
"And if men struggle and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no further injury, he shall be fined as the woman’s husband may demand of him, and he shall pay as the judges decide. But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise." ~~~ Exodus 21:22-25 [end-snip]
It’s such a great article I’m going to send it to my die-hard Republican Uncle (a minister) who is also from Ohio. In the last 5 years he and my aunt have undergone a strange personality change that makes me think of the Stepford people. They talk about the evil muslims and, like I said – this is a real shift in their earlier compassion for all races and people. They only watch FOX News.
Well – Dorothy! Glad you’re posting here. Sorry nobody commented back on your first post. It happens a lot that people read more than they comment. Anyhow – be brave and join in with us whenever you like and Liberal Hugs to ya!
The corruption of the elections never ends!!!
Well, time for a new boston harbor…..
THROW ALL OF DIEBOLD INTO THE SEA!!!!
Doug E.