Is it possible that Brad Friedman and Dick Cheney are one and the same person? Has Dick been purging his conscience by working behind the scenes to expose election fraud in 2000 and 2004?

I only ask this because I've never seen Dick and Brad together, and also because they both are reported to be in undisclosed locations quite a bit.

Have you ever seen me with Dick Cheney? Talk about undisclosed locations! For that matter, all three of us could be the same person. Couldn't we?

Has anybody else read the Associated Press story from Montgomery, about the "ashamed" trucker who got $20,000 for hauling bagged ice that never made it to Katrina victims . IMHO we need more people like this man.

http://www.al.com/newsfl...p;storylist=al_hurricane

KURT VONNEGUT'S LETTER TO GEORGE BUSH:

"I am an elder in this the greatest Democracy in the history of the world. I will be 83 in November. I am a member of what has been called the Greatest Generation. I am a combat infantry veteran with a Puple Heart and a Battle Star and I now want to put my President on notice and I'm talking about IMPEACHMENT!
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
If he commits oral sex in the oval office, and I don't care with whom, that will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
OUT HE GOES!
There. I've thrown down the gauntlet! If that be treason, make the most of it!"
(Emphasis by Kurt)

This is from Friday nights PBS show "NOW"

The moderator then asked what he meant by the oral sex item. Kurt explaind that it seemed to be the only thing left that would cause an impeachment. (This comment was not specific to Bush, but rather to politicians in general)

He also went on to say we have a 2 party system. The winners and the losers. The winners are made of two groups. The Republicans and the Democrats. The losers are the rest of us.

In reference to Kurt's war record - he was a Prisoner of war in Dresden Germany, WW II, during the bombing which turned the entire city into a fire ball. The prisoners were held underground in cellars and were among the few who survived. Kurt's book Slaughterhouse 5 was based partialy on his experiences during the war. Slaughterhouse 5 is the building in which he was held.

Only kidding, Winter Patriot. This blogging business is tense, I'm sure you'll agree; just trying to lighten the mood a bit.

Pat Tillman's mother wants a new investigation of his
death. You can read about it at the San Francisco
Chronicle website here

Pat read widely, and had arranged to meet with
Chomsky when he got back. He kept a journal (which
has disappeared). He said the Iraq war was illegal,
and advised a fellow soldier to vote for Kerry.

Tillman set off a smoke grenade to identify his unit.
He called out "Cease fire! I am Pat Tillman." Then he
was shot three times in the forehead. His body armor
was burned the next day, and his uniform the day after
that, and the stories of witnesses have changed.

CunningRealist has an intelligent analysis here

Lemmethink_Not - that is horrible news. I'm so angry and sad hearing all this blundering. It's so sad to think some people, who can barely afford to live themselves, donate their prescious dollars. The thought of the elementary schools holding bake sales, or a little girl working a lemonaide stand, working so hard, just to turn over the money for things like this is very depressing.

Here are some links for the food from the British fiasco news too. Just thought I'd post a couple of them.

http://rawstory.com/news...na_aid_to_be_b_0920.html

http://www.libertypost.o...eadart.cgi?ArtNum=110045

Just being a general fudge up:

http://service.spiegel.d...al/0,1518,375480,00.html

The Bush appointments continue to show the failures caused by lack of experience. Lack of planning. Lack of common sense. These latest choices of his friends and personal lawyer to the supreme court show how he's trying to stack the deck for protection against his own legal actions later. The fact our elected whores in Washington are unwilling to do anything to help us, just kills me. They should all be up there listed as a waste too. With very few exceptions, they know they're on their last term too and are up his ass to the end, like a herd of wounded buffalo. No shame, no heart, no loyalty to us, the common people. Just that prescious bank account they have and their perks.

(talk about running with an open forum....lol) I started a poem back when my son was in Iraq the first time and I have added to it recently. Just need to wrap it up, somehow. It is not completed yet. He's just weeks away from going back now, it's getting close and I'm getting those horrible feelings again ( Wanted to know what you guys honestly thought. I can take it. Just wondering if there are any mothers or fathers out there, with children involved, that can relate any.

I sit here now, with tears in my eyes
As my son fights through another day
Glancing at news, fighting the blues
Searching for something to say

I sit here now, with a hole in my heart
Full of guilt and a whole lot of pain
He shouldn't be there, it's all so unfair
A mere shell of my son will remain

Thanks for the open forum, WP, so much to say.....so little time. Great news updates, comments and pics! Information is our best weapon for defense. Hope Brad is doing well. Take care.

Where is the Blog story about Sandy Burger stuffing secret documents down his pants?
Since you are independant here and its not about left or right, but right or wrong, wheres the story?

We have theft of top secret documents and the liberals are silent.

Hmm.

Its about politics for you people, nothing more. Rule of law isnt important, only your slated view of the world.

Great Poem. Keep writing them. I couldn't do better myself.

Waiting for a blog on Freeh's new book.

#8 ACC A very moving poem. Thank you for sharing.

A Concerned Citizen ... great poem... looking forward to a happy ending...your son will be travelling with 6 or 7 watching his back.
mick

Medium Right ,don't you know how to post links to support your comments?

Medium Right #9

Sandy was convicted and sentenced!

Sandy Burger Fined $50,000 for Smuggling Documents

When will the Repug criminals receive the same?

Medium Right ,bummer he (Sandy Burger) didn't send "HELLFIRE" Missile electronics to China ,that only gets you a $100 fine.

As mentioned in Curtis' affidavit, and reported by the Orlando Sentinel in March of this year (link now archived, requires $ to view), Hai Lin Nee (a/k/a Henry Nee), an employee with whom Curtis claims to have worked at Yang Enterprises, Inc. (YEI), was taken into custody last March by the U.S. International and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency for attempting to ship "Missile Components to China". The "low-frequency amplifier" chips are said in the article --- and confirmed by a statement on the the official ICE website --- to be used for "radar-frequency guidance systems for fourth-generation Hellfire anti-tank missiles".

I've been wondering about those three bullets in Pat Tillman's forhead too.

Doesn't that sound like the work of a sniper?

Medium Right wants the blogosphere to focus on a case THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED.

Sandy Burger was found guilty. The case is over. If it had been shoved under the rug, he'd be right that it should be discussed. It wasn't shoved under the rug. Sandy Burger has been dealt with by the system.

Karl Rove has not been (but stay tuned). Robert Novak has not. Scooter Libby has not, nor Bolton, nor Gannon, nor Cheney, nor anyone else involved in retaliating against Joseph Wilson. Why is that so hard for Medium Right to comprehend?

I mailed a check to Brad in August but it was never cashed. Should I stop payment?

A concerned Citizen... I loved your poem and can vividly feel your pain.I have two young adult children who are not in the service, but I fear for them every day.That they'll get drafted or for that matter all their friends who I love with all my heart.This country is in so much pain. I can't get my friends to understand the folly of ignorance. They don't want to be streesed out by anymore then they already have on their plates. I just can't fathom that rationale.I'm 1 of 4 close friends and the only one who is concerned with the way this country is headed. I am sick of people saying their only one person and theres nothing they can do about it,but refuse to educate themselves on the subject. Hang in there,we're all behind you and your son. They you for your service to our country.

A concerned Citizen... I loved your poem and can vividly feel your pain.I have two young adult children who are not in the service, but I fear for them every day.That they'll get drafted or for that matter all their friends who I love with all my heart.This country is in so much pain. I can't get my friends to understand the folly of ignorance. They don't want to be streesed out by anymore then they already have on their plates. I just can't fathom that rationale.I'm 1 of 4 close friends and the only one who is concerned with the way this country is headed. I am sick of people saying their only one person and theres nothing they can do about it,but refuse to educate themselves on the subject. Hang in there,we're all behind you and your son. They you for your service to our country.

sorry for the double post and all the misspellings,When i hit the back button to edit my entry wasn't there and was too lazy to type it over.

re: COMMENT #18 [link] ...Truth Seeker

Me, too! I sent one, not cashed! Were they not received? OR, what?!!! We all know he needs money to support his radio shows.

Concerned #8...you are right it is horrible news,however we do need more people to come forward,tell of all the blundering,and to stop participating(in the blunder), we need to be able to prosecute the azzholz that participate in the stupidity (spending non-accountability) that has been running rampant in this country for so long. How is it that our elected are providing for the 'general welfare' when they are constantly putting the general population further and further in debt every day by all this uncontrolled spending? We need to impeach every damn one of them that don't tow the line and "Defend the constitution" as per their oath of office (not interprit or twist it to their way of thinking)..........

#20 Laura, my son is draft age also as are all his friends. This war has created a major divide in friendships, families, all kinds of relationships. Two of his friends are in the service and I don't really know how to talk to their families. I am so against this whole travesty and want these kids out of there. This is not a video game they are playing now. The saddest part IMO is the fact that so many have been taken in by the 'brainwashing' and they really believe they are fighting for a Noble Cause. A Concerned Citizen is such as asset to this site because she is a Mom who can see what is happening and shows that it is okay to have a child in the war and still see it for what it is. Many parents accept the use of their children as cannon fodder and scream at anyone who sees the Lie and denounce this obscene war. Personally I don't believe any of these kids originally joined the service to protect corporate interests ('American' interests as bush calls it). I don't know about the ones that joined post 911. I often wonder what their motivation was and did they come from bushes base. (I also recognize 'it's the economy' etc., we have a great percentage of unemployed kids, still living at home, very depressed, suicidal..which opens another can of worms....one I won't go into with this comment).

I for one, did not become politically aware until I was 29. Many of these kids did not have the knowledge it has taken me years to acquire. I can't blame them for that. I do blame the families that encouraged them to enlist, but perhaps they bought the Lie as well. I don't understand why the Vets of Viet Nam want their children to experience the horror they went through. This society I live in gets stranger by the day. I don't recognize America anymore.

Regarding your being 1 out of 4, well that is at least 25%. That is a good thing. I find myself moving further away from those people in my life. I feel such an urgency right now. Our Country is in it's death throes and a geat number of people are seeing it, fighting for our very freedom here in this Country, as evidenced by this blog and others. You have friends here. You are not alone. M4

MERIFOUR wrote:

> my son is draft age

There is no draft. Kids volunteer.

> I don't really know how to talk to their families. I am so against this whole travesty and want these kids out of there.

It is none of your business!!!

> Many of these kids did not have the knowledge it has taken me years to acquire

The kids today have plenty of knowledge with the Internet, etc. More access to knowledge than we had when we were kids.

> I do blame the families that encouraged them to enlist, but perhaps they bought the Lie as well

These kids enlisted without encoruagement from their familues - I know 3 kids who wanted to go. They can make up their own minds. Two of them come from rich familues and are educated.

> I also recognize 'it's the economy' etc., we have a great percentage of unemployed kids, still living at home, very depressed, suicidal

You have no proof of any of this. The economy is fine.

> I don't recognize America anymore.

Only because your leaders are not in charge!

It's everyone's business. One amazing thing to think about is that even if you believe that recent elections in the US have not been shams and that our leaders really are our elected reps. and even if you believe that our media are not corrupted by Big Money control, the fact remains that decisions our government makes have gigantically disproportional affects on the world, so in affect, our leaders are unelected leaders of the world.

Our foreign policy and especially our military policy is the world's business.

This is the first time I've ever read, anywhere, that it is none of a citizen's business that a neighbor's son or daughter has been sent into (an undeclared) war against a non-enemy, and under fraudulent pretenses at that.

That is the most preposterous thing I've ever heard or read, and I'm 64 years of age and have heard and read a lot. It's a tribute to Brad's openness that this sort of garbage is allowed into print.

#26 Phil.......so true

Well, Paul slinks back out from under his rock to disparage without really saying much.. that's funny (in a "wow, some Americans suck sooo bad" kind of way).

And the POINT about "draft age" is that there are still rumblings of a new draft (well, last I heard about a month ago or so..). The current position seems to NOT bring the draft back, but with these psychos in office, who knows.

Not to hijack what's become a "war" thread, but here's some more interesting info incase you didn't already know that "the haves want more and don't want to pay taxes on it".... which will -also- benifit a smaller (and richer) group of Americans, instead of helping the populace in general.

They have been pushing for no more estate tax .. was imposed on estates over 3.5 mil for individuals (75% or more of Americans will never have an "estate" worth anything near that) and they are trying to remove it completely. Now we have people who want to leech off the rest of us (the stock market for the upper middle class is all about "free money", isn't it?) going to be tossed a bone, and the richest 10% who makes billions on the market, they are gonna pay LESS in taxes.. nice.. So, another break to the tp 30% or so (with, I'd guess 90% of that bennifit going to less than 10% of the population) that the REST of us have to absorb some how. This in the face of discussions of REMOVING the deduction of interest (which is profit for the bank) on mortgages.. MORE burden on the "average joe".. fun!

Try defending how Republicans (almost all, and way too many Dems now too) keep pushing wealth UP and AWAY from the masses.. First, read the bit from the Constitution where the Government is to proved for the GENERAL WELFARE.. not just their rich white friends.. ("We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America").. I see no "make rich folks richer on the backs of the masses" in there.. do you?

Has Scooter Libby fled the country?!?!? (Or perhaps it may be another aide.)

Check out Raw Story for breaking news!

> This is the first time I've ever read, anywhere, that it is none of a citizen's business that a neighbor's son or daughter has been sent into (an undeclared) war against a non-enemy, and under fraudulent pretenses at that. That is the most preposterous thing I've ever heard or read.

Preposterous or not, it is still none of his business that a family member VOLUNTEERS into the military. Hey kooks - There is no draft and won't be!

Whoops looks like it was Steve Schmidt who fled.

Paul..

Are you saying it's no ones business if a family member VOLUNTEERS to be a Coke Addict? Crack Addict? Alcoholic?.. Any time someone in MY family does something that isn't wise, it's MY business.. any time someone that is considered a friend of mine does something that isn't wise, it's MY business. See, that's what being family and friends is all about... not that I'd expect an obviously self-absorbed narcissist to get that.

Oh, and to say "there won't be [another draft]" is to admit you aren't paying attention. It's currently "unlikely", but the -fact- that politicians are talking about it makes it a "real possibility".

Anyway.. time to stop feeding the trolls.. perhaps they'll starve to death and we'll be rid of them..

> Are you saying it's no ones business if a family member VOLUNTEERS to be a Coke Addict? Crack Addict? Alcoholic?..

You cannot compare the above with joining the military. No one volunteers to be a coke addict!

My first cousin is in a cult in Washington State. She is raising her kids in the cult (RAMTHA). Should I go kidnap her and de-program her? I'd like to but she is 45 and it is her choice. If she were a crack head, I could get the kids taken away from her and get her into rehab.

A good friend had two sons. One died at age 16 due to born with cerebral palsy. The other just decided to join the Marines. He only has one son so of course he would rather his son not join. But, it is his son's decision and he will be proud of him.

Your views on our military, our president, this war or any war, may not be the same views as your other family members so it really is none of your business.

RLM #17 Right on. The criminal activity of this admin is unpresidented, and even the great power of the MSM can't cover it up.

The people know anyway, so the MSM has failed in its unpresidented coverup.

But a hard rain is gonna fall on them because it is way out of control.

Paul hope your friends kid finds the WMD's for gwb.
Cult worshipping seems to run in your family ,give my regards to gwb at your next pray session.

Paul, ever notice it is only democrats who die in small plane accidents or are killed by a lone gunmen? I am for dems. and repubs. both being punished for wrongdoing, but with Ken Lay still free, where's your brain man?.......Saw a video of Pat Tillman being killed on democracy now. Wonder who filmed that?

Guys.. let the troll be.. there's nothing rational people can say to someone like that that will cause their brain to suddenly engage. That's why it's been an "us and them" fight for so long.. No one decided to be a coke addict? Uh.. sure they do.. they start snorting coke, don't they? Without bringing "children" into it, that was a choice made by an adult.. and one that even Paul seems to think is a very bad choice.. though, it's none of his business I recon..

There is no reasoning with a fanatic.. of any sort.. which is what makes it that much more difficult.. "We" listen to facts (well, "I" do) and adjust our stance based on those facts.. when someone refuses to take into account all relavant info and discount lies and deception, they are lost.. 1/2 truths don't make an argument right (not everyone in a family feels the same way about "war" and the like.. doesn't mean it's not MY business when MY brother wants to make a very bad choice.. though, we don't have any sheep or blind (metaphorically) people in my family.. so there's no worry about them running off to kill human beings over an illegal invasion).

Just let spew a bit.. he'll get tired once the conversation stays on the "facts".. thats when his kind sulk away, defeated..

#29 Savanster...Bravo, I agree......and did anyone notice that it never mentioned "specific welfare"...yet it still happens (imminent domain cases in favor of private corporations etc.)........ kinda like the "seperation of church and state" twist on the 1st amendment, I don't recall any time in history that there has been any law trying to "establish" a "religon" in this country (other than athesism) and if your children want to pray in school more power to them .........we have way to many folks in this country falling under some form of corporate or martime law because of some piece of paper that they signed at some time in their lives which limits their god given rights or thinking that they can't do anything about this or that because some MSM attorney purposely asks the wrong question of the court to get the answer he was looking for.....we all need to be educated in so many ways....sorry i'm on a soap box.... if fuel prices keep going like they are we will have a whole new look at the meaning of poverty (when it costs almost as much as a house payment to get 2 people back and forth to work every month) there will most likley by hell to pay if things go anything like the Katrina incident because not many people in this country know how to conduct themselves....the terrorists are probably looking at the big cluster f**k from Katrina and enjoying the thought of causing more chaos after the way we handled that one ..............

Check this out : http://thomas.loc.gov/cg...n/query/z?c109:H.R.1070: comments please.........

I hope to GOD this gets passed.....but hey look around...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.1070:

Lemme.. at #39..

"kinda like the "seperation of church and state" twist on the 1st amendment, I don't recall any time in history that there has been any law trying to "establish" a "religon" in this country (other than athesism) and if your children want to pray in school more power to them"

How's this for "law trying to establish a [prefered or accepted] religion? Only "Christians" (and their closest neighbors, Jews) get to "pray" at a COUNTY meeting? Uh.. NO ONE should be praying at a meeting, ever.. As you pointed out.. "if you kid wants to pray", great.. but I promise.. if during "prayer" my kid stars praying to "the creator" and praising "mother nature", my kid is gonna get shut down.. -that- is part of what is wrong with Government having -anything- to do with religion.. Most people get stuck on "prodestant, lutheran, methodist, catholic" etc.. but FORGET there are a LOT of 'religions" out there, and -all- are just as reasonable and valid as christianity.. therefore, -anything- "religious" should NOT be posted, said, depicted, referenced, or otherwise brought to bear during a GOVERNMENT -anything-.. period.. ever..

Course, Christians think that's not right.. They think it's ok to display the 10 commandments (Christian only) or have "God" mentioned in the Pledge (wasn't in the original version by the guy who wrote the damn thing) or on money. But, that's -exactly- the problem. it's a CHRISTIAN premise, and therefore "encourages one religion over another".

#26 Well said. What is happening on the planet today is being done by the U.S.A. IN OUR NAME.
As in Germany, during Hitler, I read about it and I blame the German people as a whole. I know that is not true. The Holocaust happened because the people were silenced. I will not be silent until I am dead. M4

Just wanted to quickly say thank you to Peter, M4, MMIIXX and Laura for the nice words. They mean a lot to me. Thank you.

Americans Favor Bush's Impeachment If He Lied about Iraq.

Do bears shit in the forest?

Attn. Techies : Someplace on BB someone was talking about the internet and backup plans. Is there anything to this?

Marine Captain Josh Rushing interviewed by Australian ABC Radio Station.

SAVANSTER, and they got their Chesterfield co. Va. hand slapped for favoring one religion over another, then they changed their "policy",rightly so. IMHO who can expect to be taken seriously with a name like "Broom Riders Association" anyway? I guess I should have left "trying" out, huh? BTW did you read this...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.1070:

Re: #46 Beyond the Internet --- I've been told it is a hoax (but it's on a reputable site, I think.) I suspected so with that talk about fractals and chaos.

#50 Arry, I wonder what that is about..agreed, seems to be a reputable site.

#40 Went to the site you posted. I don't know what this is all about, further checking it was about 'moving companies'? I can't figure out if it has to do with the Supreme Court, Judges, States Rights, God, or Moving Companies. I'm confused. Maybe someone here can enlighten me. M4

#50 M4 Just Google: H.R.1070 .... then click the first site on the list , then click text of legislation

InRe: H.R. 1070 SEC. 201. INTERPRETATION OF THE CONSTITUTION.

In interpreting and applying the Constitution of the United States, a court of the United States may not rely upon any constitution, law, administrative rule, Executive order, directive, policy, judicial decision, or any other action of any foreign state or international organization or agency, other than English constitutional and common law up to the time of the adoption of the Constitution of the United States.

Government Abuse, Natural Law Remedies, Chapter 5
and for your reading pleasure ...........

So sorry link didn't work try this one... http://hiddencures.com/Articles/Chapter-5.htm

Just copy and paste, I might get the hang of this one day :blush: