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"Really...Nothing Occurred Today in D.C...."
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Sam
said on 9/24/2005 @ 7:51 pm PT...
Blane News Network gets another scoop.
MSM cringes with shame.
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MarkH
said on 9/24/2005 @ 7:51 pm PT...
Thank God we have billions of dollars to spend on producing and covering these events.
At least 6 or 7 people showed up and a couple of them spoke. The MSM doesn't seem to be covering this party very well, so maybe the parade should follow Dubya all over the country until he gets a chance to see it first-hand. Who knows, he might even decide he should join the party. He's been known to party.
We wouldn't want Georgie Boy to look at the papers (not likely really) and think nothing had occurred today in D.C..
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Vance
said on 9/24/2005 @ 7:59 pm PT...
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Sam
said on 9/24/2005 @ 8:01 pm PT...
This is a hoot.
Those mindless 24/7 drivel drones can't possibly think that not reporting this event is going to diminish its impact.
"The whole is watching". It is just watching the blogcasts instead of the "newscasts", now.
The strength of truth is sometimes underestimated.
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Chris
said on 9/24/2005 @ 8:51 pm PT...
BTW, nothing unusual happened with the Amtrak trains today either. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Shame shame shame on the MSM!
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citizenX
said on 9/24/2005 @ 8:56 pm PT...
Cable news....Bah! It's run by a bunch of worthless assholes.
No -one watches their BS anyway, at least anyone that's worth a shit.
The real media is here in the blogesphere.
You want the news? Come here, to Brad Blog, and follow his links.
But more importantly, go out and make some news. Who know, it may end up in a blog somewhere with pictures!
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George Walker Bullshit
said on 9/24/2005 @ 9:23 pm PT...
I'm George Walker Bullshit and I approved this anti-war rally! Damn! Why didn't I think of this???
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Doug Eldritch
said on 9/24/2005 @ 9:33 pm PT...
Like them or hate them, the corporate media is our source for flooding the airwaves and getting the news out there and permanently ending the war.
ANYTIME we give a pass to the corporate media, let them become irrelevant and let all their stock fall or what not that makes them indignant and then people lose their jobs.
There are alot of good reporters out there who have LOST their jobs. Networks which have closed down.
They've TRIED to do real reporting or at least attempted to and the more everyone ignores them the worse it gets, so please, PLEASE deluge the corporate media.
Make sure they know we're watching!!!!!!!
http://www.washingtonpos.../AR2005092401701_pf.html
Be courteous but forceful, remember every media personality has to put food on the table too....They're under an AWFUL lot of pressure by General-Electric to not get too strong against the USA's leaders or the Iraq war........they have to do what they can and try to keep their job.
MAKE SURE they cover it, and keep the heat on them to cover anything, especially if it will help ratings
Doug E.
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Sam
said on 9/24/2005 @ 9:47 pm PT...
Ratings, Schmatings.
Report the news. Or it will be reported for you.
Period.
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carl and Rusty Van Patten
said on 9/24/2005 @ 9:54 pm PT...
Did you not notice that there was a huge anti-war protest in Washington D.C? Maybe, little by little you reporters can get the truth out and still keep your jobs.
We want news - the whole news and the whole truth of what is happening. Please help us get the media back to the people.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 9/24/2005 @ 9:58 pm PT...
Sam,
News is based on the allmighty dollar. Unfortunately even if its for a worthy cause, the purpose of covering it must bring raitings: aka the dollars or nobody gets paid.
So everyone needs to keep after the corporate media with this in mind!!!!!!! They have to cover news, aka REAL news to get the ratings.....they have to do that to make the bank, etc. That's how the cycle works
If they bend over for even a day, they lose THOUSANDS of viewers and the whores at G-E sell them out. So make CERTAIN they cover the real news no matter what you can do!
Doug
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OhTheBill
said on 9/24/2005 @ 10:35 pm PT...
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 9/24/2005 @ 10:51 pm PT...
Aaron Brown just reported on CNN:
"There was no conspiracy to cover the Hurricaine more than the Anti-War rally, its just been a hectic news day."
Remember folks the corporate media can not be in three places at one time. There was certainly pressure for them to skip over it, but I don't think they ignored the rally.
Also what the hell is going on with these "patriots" !?!!
http://www.crm114.com/pr...t/altimages/DSC00034.jpg Freepers hold up patriotic flags
Freepers shout "Yay for Iraq war!"
What the HELL is wrong with these young fools!??!??
DO ALL THE FREEPERS, MOST OF WHICH WHO ARE NOT ABOVE 29 GET THEIR NEWS FROM FOX?!?!
And there they are......WHINING in front of the headquarters about the Iraq war!!!!!!! These guys have truly been duped, LOL!!!!!!
"Christian" fellowship eh?
Doug
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JD
said on 9/24/2005 @ 10:57 pm PT...
A thinking man called several talk shows Friday to ask that everyone fly their flags and carry flags for this event. It was a brilliant suggestion that was ignored. No wonder the idiot right thinks we are unpatriotic. If we saw a sea of flags along with those wonderful signs the media might be shamed into giving us attention. From now on let's take our flags and fly them high at all protests!
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k ols
said on 9/24/2005 @ 11:23 pm PT...
I agree about the flags. Otherwise, we let the right lay the claim to being the true patriots.
This is about ending the war AND taking our country back so the left are the true patriots so get out those flags. The right doesn't have a patent on flags for crying out loud. It isn't their exclusive trademark.
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hcocdr
said on 9/25/2005 @ 2:32 am PT...
Families of troops counter Sheehan
The Gold Star majority:
"You can't call into question the integrity of the commander in chief without having it call into question the integrity of those under his command," said Diane Ibbotson, whose son Army Cpl. Forest Jostes, 21, died in April 2004 outside Baghdad.
"Let's talk about the things they've accomplished," she said, listing the end of Saddam Hussein's dictatorship, Iraq's first free elections, and the building of schools and hospitals.
...Mrs. Ibbotson said it "angered" her that Mrs. Sheehan seemed to be speaking for all of the families who lost children, so she decided to speak out.
Others had stronger words.
"What has she done, rather than bitch, gripe and complain?" said Gary Qualls, whose 20-year-old son, Marine Reserve Lance Cpl. Louis Qualls, was killed in Fallujah, Iraq, last fall.
"There should be nothing but full honor and full respect. Coming from Cindy Sheehan's camp, there's has been nothing but dishonor and disrespect," said Mr. Qualls, who created "Fort Qualls" in Crawford, Texas, to counter Mrs. Sheehan.
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hcocdr
said on 9/25/2005 @ 2:35 am PT...
# 14
""A thinking man called several talk shows Friday to ask that everyone fly their flags and carry flags for this event. It was a brilliant suggestion that ..."
That would be like asking an abortion doctor to carry a cross.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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said on 9/25/2005 @ 2:40 am PT...
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COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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hcocdr
said on 9/25/2005 @ 2:41 am PT...
#6
"The real media is here in the blogesphere."
Have you read some of doug's post? Ha
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Doug Eldritch
said on 9/25/2005 @ 3:27 am PT...
Oh and also HCOCDR, shut the hell up already and stop supporting a known FREEPER rally.
All those dumb kids don't know how to count, let alone SUPPORT the troops!!!!
Everyone who waves the flag, marches against the war, and questions the leaders SUPPORTS THE TROOPS MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE. Supports them also being home right away, and no more needless deaths
They are the true patriots. I agree with bring the flags, and wave them proud.
Doug E.
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Avram Mirsky
said on 9/25/2005 @ 5:20 am PT...
By the time my wife and I completed the full loop of the downtown DC March, we were 300,000 strong. I can't believe how little coverage this incredible event received - they should be ashamed, along with all the Democratic congress people who left town!
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M. Siegel
said on 9/25/2005 @ 5:41 am PT...
Yesterday's demonstration was massive. I sat in Lafayette Square park directly across from the main door of the White House from about 12:30pm - 4:00pm and watched a sea of people march by. Pennsylvania Ave (closed to traffic since 911) in front of the White House is 4 lanes wide. The road was filled for 3 1/2 hours as hundreds of thousands of people marched by.
People were exceptionally well behaved and polite. Many picked up the litter (though not all of it to be sure) and engaged several of those in the massive police/security presence in conversation. Many even had their pictures taken in front of the dozen or so mounted police on the west side of Lafayette Park.
I only witnessed one person throw a mostly empty plastic water bottle towards the White House. He was roundly booed by everyone in the vicinity.
I think an estimate of the numbers in attendance of 200,000 could be conservative.
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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greyhair
said on 9/25/2005 @ 7:22 am PT...
I expect the media to fuck it up.
But the liberal blogs?:
http://greyhairsblog.blo....com/2005/09/pissed.html
The was little pre-coverage and only a few blogs are talking about it post coverage. These guys calling the DLC warm spit is gonna sound fairly hollow now.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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A Concerned Citizen
said on 9/25/2005 @ 8:10 am PT...
I am sickened by the lack of coverage. Just totally heartbroken. I didn't think they'd do it justice, but damn, to ignore it is so wrong.
I used to get up for work every morning and watch about an hour of MSN on TV, while waking up. My new routine, since about a month ago, is to wake up and come login. No shoving products I don't want down my throat, and I get actual news.
While we get the real news online, I worry about all the people who don't have a computer or the internet. They are the ones the MSN is letting down the most. The coporate whores are so tranparent and pathetic.
The percentage of guilt for the MSN, in the demise of this country, grows everyday.
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Lindy
said on 9/25/2005 @ 8:27 am PT...
A brief smidge of news on the Rally on MSNBC. They said they're going to get caught on some other news now. Wha happened? Must have gotten a few calls, eh?
Good work "6 or 7"!
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Stitch
said on 9/25/2005 @ 8:34 am PT...
I watched the "NBC Nightly News" yesterday (lucky me.) They expanded it to one hour because of the hurricane, which was about the only thing they mentioned. The exception was about 1 sentence about the demo and 1 sentence about the "hundreds" of counter-demonstrators. Also a quick report about Dick Cheney's latest hospital stay. Nothing about the war itself or the Frist scandal or the Rove scandal.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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theone
said on 9/25/2005 @ 8:46 am PT...
Our hearts and spirit have now been uplifted....
The moment of "revelation" is upon us
The time to reveal and uncover that which has been hidden...
Our minds are opening the door,, lets walk through
peace love
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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Lindy
said on 9/25/2005 @ 8:47 am PT...
The MSNBC coverage today said, "more than 100,000...", "...Dick Cheney's surgery", "...blah, blah", "... flooding in NO due to poorly designed retaining walls."
No one said to let up on the media. Get to it!
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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czaragorn
said on 9/25/2005 @ 8:51 am PT...
Poor Duhbaya! He's clearly had 6 or 7 too many...
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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onyx
said on 9/25/2005 @ 9:10 am PT...
I was there. It was very therapeutic to see that such massive and diverse cross section of American sees the Bush administration for what it is and cared enough to travel to DC.
Being the engineer that I am I couldn't resist making a few measurements and estimates. Like measuring the width of the streets along the route and counting the number people that on average occupied an area of a painted cross walk, measuring the areas of the cross walk to get the average density of people in the march. Then timing the length of the parade past the starting point. Then going on Google maps and measuring the length of the march.
By my calculations and measurements there were 245,000 people who marched plus more that didn't.
BTW the MSM estimate of the counter demo was about right. Maybe 200 in one cordoned off area near the end of the march. I saw NONE anywhere else.
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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jpentz
said on 9/25/2005 @ 9:25 am PT...
Dear friends,
Kira and I were there to prove . .once again, no one was there but six or seven of us. I wonder why Bushit was out of town scared.
In all truth, the metro (light rail) that goes down to DC was barely enough room to stand/breathing room only.
It was an amazing and truly AWE some day. I had wished we had been able to find the "meeting places" on time, but we could absolutely not move for the throngs of people and get from point A to point B. The only way to move was with the motion of the crowd.
And Brad, I also truly thought of you and wished you had been there to see what some of your hard work has wrought.
I am further amazed, even as Blacked out as the media is, that there was little if no mention of this. Well, I am glad C-Span at least caputured the video.
I will be making another video of my own, at least through slideshow and any clips I can find on the net.
BTW . . if anyone sees an older man in his 70's, staring down and single handedly blocking a police car from driving, by planting his knees against the bumper as it purposefully drove through the blocked street filled with people,telling the DC cops how he hates fascism and asking if "George sent them." That was my dad.
If anyone hears that story on the net or sees pictures . . .point me to them. I was too amazed and scared to move or get a picture.
For the Brad bloggers and VR . . . Kira and I attempted to call several of you, but with all the excitement and crowds or for whatever reason we had no success. We truly wanted to meet up with you all but you saw how it was.
Hugs, and Love,
J.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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hacked 909
said on 9/25/2005 @ 9:30 am PT...
We all got to watch first hand. Global warming turning nature against the U.S. We got to watch our neo-cons promptly addressing it all. We would learn of offers of help from around the world being turned down. Had they said yes, Canada and Cuba would have been in New Orleans in less then two hours, five days ahead of FEMA. We would learn of them turning away truck loads of fresh water and a hospital ship being told to leave. We, along with FEMA would witness bodies piling up as the days passed. They were the bodies of poor people though who had no quick means to escape the city. Most of them were Black and most of them vote Democratic.
Much of America was asking why was emergency assistance taking so long. We got to watch our President playing a fiddle and our Secretary of State shopping for expensive shoes. We would not get to see our Vice President who was on vacation, but on the phone with his oil companies and HB. We got to watch so much on our TVs.
For reasons that he would not understand, the president's ratings dropped quite rapidly. He would need to get Rove to write him a speech and to order some extra voting machines. He would need to appear Innocent and sympathetic. He would need to personally fly low over New Orleans and land to commend FEMA on their role in this disaster. National Guard companies would be instructed to appear with him for photo ops. At some point they would need to tell FEMA to proceed with some kind of a rescue attempt. They would need to start allowing fresh water to be brought in, and we would get to watch it happening. We may not comprehend it all but we did get to see it.
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NuclearChemist
said on 9/25/2005 @ 10:29 am PT...
Hacked 909,
I think you have your facts wrong. The hospital ship was never turned away. Yes, the beds were empty but that was because the medics were flown into staging areas. Food and water was attempted to be brought into New Orleans but the democratic state officials refused to allow them in. Their thinking was if food and water was provided to those in the convention center and the Super Bowl, the victims wouldn't leave.
What do you mean "They were the bodies of poor people though who had no quick means to escape the city." ??? The New Orleans Emergency Plan stated that during a hurricane, buses were to be used to evacuate the poor. See, they had the means to leave... Oh wait.... That's right, the incompetent democratic officials never followed their own plan and never sent the buses to save the poor. They just allowed the buses to sit.
Carrying an American Flag at an anti-war rally? Wouldn't that be a dilema to you guys? What to carry, a sign that states "We support our troops when they shoot their officers" or an American Flag.... decisions, decisions!!!!!
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aikane
said on 9/25/2005 @ 11:56 am PT...
Next time, send a runaway bride to Washington a few days before the march. Then leak word to the media that she may be among the marchers.
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Winter Patriot
said on 9/25/2005 @ 12:05 pm PT...
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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onyx
said on 9/25/2005 @ 12:05 pm PT...
Nuke - You can't see the forest from the trees.
If FEMA had been there in the 48 to 60 hours that they had committed to, the local decision to use the Superdome would have turned out to be the best decision. There is no way that even a majority those who couldn't or would evacuate would have gotten on a bus to nowhere. Were would 20,000 bussed people go?
The decision to use the Superdome as a last resort refuge was much more likely to succeed. People could easily get there. If the levees held than they could have gone home in 24 hours. If they didn't they were safe from the flooding and could be evacuated with FEMA help in 60 hours max, but it didn't work out like that. Why? The fault is pretty clear to me.
BTW I was at the DC demo and I saw many many more flags being carried by the 250,000 anti-war demonstrators than I saw among the 200 pro-war idiots.
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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Jo
said on 9/25/2005 @ 12:06 pm PT...
I have been to a few anti-war rally's with my flag. I have one on my car-right next to my" Bush is not my President" sticker.
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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Jo
said on 9/25/2005 @ 12:12 pm PT...
I also carried the folded flag from my brothers coffin during the candlelight vigil for Cindy. My sister held her sons flag and my daughter held my sisters husbands flag. I have a picture but I am too computer challenged to post it.
COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
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jen
said on 9/25/2005 @ 2:10 pm PT...
JPentz & Kira!
What a day, eh? I'm sorry we never connected, but am happy you found each other at least!! Me and the borrowed cell phone never did quite figure each other out...
Love all the photos posted here as well as the different reports. One of the people I spoke to who lives in the area and attends rallies regularly in DC and New York estimated the crowd at between 300,000 - 500,000!! I read in one MSM account this morning "over 100,000..." Right.
I found an above-the-crowd vantage point to watch the march and what blew me away the most was how the river of people flowing onto the parade route from 3 directions had no end in sight for almost 3 hours!!
An amazing day to be sure - encouraging and inspiring to know so many of us are on the same page! At LEAST 6 or 7!!
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Would like to hear what you all think about this:
I was directed to this article by Steve Gilliard with the added statement: "we have let the far lefties define the antiwar movement. Steve gilliard has an important discussion of the problem."
After reading Gilliard's piece I understand her point, but being there personally I did not see it that way. The diversity of the crowd was vast and I thought was a perfect representation of "everyman/everywoman" America.
I do agree that the non-coverage by the MSM and the apparently one-sided coverage of C-Span paints a different picture than if one had experienced the event in total, but I wonder if Gilliard's point is valid? Any thoughts on this?
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
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Jo
said on 9/25/2005 @ 2:28 pm PT...
#39-BINGO!!! The Steve Gillard article said what I have been trying to express but lack the words. The Speakers sucked and that was all that was seen on C-SPAN. It was counterproductive. It was painfully awful to watch and in my opinion set our efforts back light-years. If I were on the fence and I watched the C-SPAN footage I would join the other side. It was that bad.
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Jose Chung
said on 9/25/2005 @ 2:49 pm PT...
t's all about Cindy. Narcissism at its worst:
i am watching cnn and it is 100 percent rita...even though it is a little wind and a little rain...it is bad, but there are other things going on in this country today...and in the world!!!!
by CindySheehan on Sat Sep 24th, 2005 at 06:29:15 PD
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it is 100 percent rita...even though it is a little wind and a little rain
I'm in Southeast Texas with family on the coast and in Lake Jackson, LA.
I'd like you to tell us it's just a little wind and rain. They've lost their homes, jobs and businesses and gone through fear and panic while you bask in your fan's adulation, party with your celebrity friends and play the star.
Shame on you, you're jealous of media coverage of other's suffering. You've become a caricature and I no longer support you. I'm ashamed I ever did.
by hibsnet on Sat Sep 24th, 2005 at 18:19:40 PDT
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nuclearchemist
said on 9/25/2005 @ 3:36 pm PT...
Onyx,
"There is no way that even a majority those who couldn't or would evacuate would have gotten on a bus to nowhere. Were would 20,000 bussed people go?"
I don't know, why don't they ask the people of Texas where they bussed their poor to...
The prosecutor in New Orleans is charging the Nursing Home operators in the drowning death of 24 patients. Why, because in the Nursing Home Emergency Plan it called for them to evacuate everyone in the event of a hurricane and they didn't. Sort of like the mayor of New Orleans didn't.
You guys are suprised at a lack of news coverage? What is newsworthy about a bunch of liberals going all hysterical??? It happens all the time.
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Doug Eldritch
said on 9/25/2005 @ 5:53 pm PT...
"It happens all the time. "
Jose Chung and Nuclear:
Try 500,000 people from all walks of life. That doesn't meet your quota of bunch of liberals now does it?
But lets not ask them instead we'll ask the "6 or 7" who were actually there!
Jo: Part of the problem with the speakers is they were organized by ANSWER and I don't agree with ANSWER being in charge of everything. If someone else can set up the event besides ANSWER next time, you'll get a much more diverse line of speakers.
Thats what I'm hoping for, we don't need to complicate it all by adding in junk about "get out of palestine and north korea" because it just dilludes the message. But you will NOT have that, unless ANSWER is not paying for or sponsoring the event, with everyone in the country there should be more than enough organizations to pay for the event than just ANSWER itself.
That's how I see it and you should ask the questions.
Doug E.
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onyx
said on 9/25/2005 @ 5:55 pm PT...
Nuke - I never said that that the feds deserve ALL the blame. Its more complicated than that. That's what I meant when I said you can't see the forest from the trees.
I was outraged at the nursing home operators too. Then I heard they were concerned that if they tried to evacuate patients on such short notice a few would certainly die during the evacuation. Now, they could be trying to cover their asses, but there is probably some truth behind their claim. Its complicated and I hope the truth prevails.
What is not complicated is that it took FEMA 5 to 6 days to get there when they promised to be there in 2 to 2.5 days. Bush, Chertof, and Rice were on vacation. Then when they finally showed up they created more problems than they solved.
Everyone could have done a better job. To be kind, FEMA just plain fucked up. However, its almost easier to believe that they delayed and obstructed on purpose.
BTW Texas didn't do a better job of evacuating the poor. I just heard on MSNBC that over 100,000 poor never made it out. Its a very hard thing to do.
I think Mayor Nagin did the right thing and it would have worked just fine if FEMA had held up their end of the bargain.
Re the DC demo - you would have a hard time telling the difference between the demonstrators and your next door neighbors. It was such a wonderful cross section of America that it even surprised me.
There were two pro-war demonstrators with long hair and scruffy beards carry a sing that said "WE EAT HIPPIES". They were barking like dogs at us. I almost fell on the ground laughing at the hypocrisy.
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Jo
said on 9/25/2005 @ 7:29 pm PT...
Doug-If there is a more balanced organization out there willing to sponsor the next protest, let me know, I will contribute to the fund. People talking about communism and palestine don't cut it. Did you catch the group stomping out "brick in the wall"? I had nausea while watching it.
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Jose Chung
said on 9/25/2005 @ 9:27 pm PT...
Not that is would bother any of you fine young Americans but ANSWER is a Communist front group and Brian Becker is their man in Pyongyang.
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Jose Chung
said on 9/25/2005 @ 9:51 pm PT...
I don't know where you get your figures of 500,000 or even 300,000, unless you're getting them from ANSWER.
A police spokesman said 100,000. I find it a little ironic that you're so quick to inflate the figures. I guess if this were an election you would have declared yourselves the winners.
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Winter Patriot
said on 9/25/2005 @ 11:24 pm PT...
The figure "600,000" came from CNN.
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A Concerned Citizen
said on 9/26/2005 @ 4:09 am PT...
Jen #39 - I completely agree with Steve Gilliard's point of view. I was watching C-SPAN on Saturday and those were my exact thoughts. I thought it was just me! I was very disappointed at their agenda and topics and speakers (at least what they showed).
The crimes commited against us, by this administration, which includes the war in Iraq, should have been the ONLY focus.
Nonetheless, it was very moving for me to know so many of you were there, on our behalf, trying to get the message across. I want to thank you, from the bottom of my heart and tell you how proud I am of you. Thank you so much, you have a lot to be proud of.
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Jose Chung
said on 9/26/2005 @ 10:17 am PT...
My question would be, What anti-war rally?
Explain to me what New Orleans and Palestine and Israel and Ohio and Cuba and Venezuela and North Korea have to do with the war in Iraq? The rally in DC can best be described as an anti-Bush rally; that was the theme, hatred of Bush and that leads to charges of hatred of America.
“Destroy Israel!”
Somebody 'splain how you can be for destroying Israel, if you're against war? Doesn't that require war, or do they call it something else? Or do they expect the Israelis to walk into the sea peacefully?
COMMENT #51 [Permalink]
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jo
said on 9/26/2005 @ 10:03 pm PT...
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Kira
said on 9/27/2005 @ 4:02 pm PT...
Hose-A chung:
Get your head outta your behind, you dummy.
If you can't see the corruption, it's because you're not looking.
We don't have time to talk to LOSERS.
Kira
COMMENT #53 [Permalink]
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Bejammin075
said on 9/28/2005 @ 3:35 am PT...
I was at the 9-24 rally, and there's no way in hell that there were as few as 100,000. I guessed that it was 300,000 before hearing any numbers from anyone else.
There were helicopters buzzing overhead all day. Some of them must have filmed the protest. So far, I have no seen any of that footage, except at one Neocon blog that had a photo from the sky that they tried to use to show how small the protest was. Problem is though, the photo DID show a shit load of people, and I also could not recognize the area. Meaning that the vast oceans of people that I saw with me in the protest stretched to where ever this photo went to. I could not identify the Washington monument or the WH in the photo. Also, the photo didn't contain all the protesters. There were dense masses of people at many edges of the photo.
To use that photo of some distant part of the protest, showing that it's packed with people, and showing that people continue to be densly packed beyond the scope of the photo, pretty much proves we are right to say there could be 300,000 or 500,000 people.
Another thing: 100,000 was just the expected number of protesters, a low-ball estimate of the turnout, if you will, and the confirmation of that was given by a police man who wouldn't go any farther than that. He's just one guy. The number of protesters who showd up exceeded expectations, compared to the Neocon rally that expected 10,000 to 20,000 people but only got 400. In that case, you really look like dumbasses. I mean, you Freepers should have predicted that your Pro-Bush rally would attract 100 people, then you would look good for beating expectations when 300 or 400 show up.
Our demonstrators ournumber your demonstrators by 1000 to 1. You Neocons are in your last throes of credibility
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Ada
said on 9/28/2005 @ 10:54 am PT...
#35 Good idea, but make sure the run away bride is blond and pretty or they won't care about her either!
On another note: I called and emailed CNN because they call antibush antiwar protestors Cindy Sheehan followers (though we love her we are there for all) and probush prowar protestors supporters of the troops....I let them know that's Vietnam era BS that we all support the troops and not the liars that sent them there! Big F'g difference! Bring them home now! It can't get any worse than bush has made it there now.
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Ada
said on 9/28/2005 @ 10:58 am PT...
Another BS misconception that anti bush anti war protestors don’t respect the flag. I too where a flag and Christian fish on my car next to my many anti bush policy bumper stickers to let those neocon warmongers don’t own those symbols. We peace lovers see more truth, not one war was based on truth in history yet! I love my country and won’t leave it, I’ll continue to fight to bring it back to the people!
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linda6or7
said on 9/28/2005 @ 6:54 pm PT...
I'm hearing a lot of stuff about the diversity of the message of the protest. It's ok guys. I don't agree with all of answers positions either, that is why I am not a member. However, I will stand by any man or woman who is right now against this war, against this administration. Just like I don't care who or what sex people chose to sleep with, I don't care what Answer or any man or any woman standing next to me to stop this war thinks on other issues. Right now, it's stop this war, then stop this administration for me.
Right now, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. In the future, I may have to take a stand against this person or group, but for right now, we stand against this war, against this administration. We stand together for America.
You all know how serious the situation is. We can overlook all the unneccesary shit right now. The United States and the world is in peril. We can overlook the other shit. Answer and UFPJ did most of the work and in doing that they get the most of the mic. time. I agree that I would have liked it staying to just MY issues, but what the hell, did u see the size of that crowd?
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mike
said on 11/2/2005 @ 3:32 pm PT...
BUSH SATANIC HUMAN SACRIFICE
December 22, 2001
SUMMER--WINTER SOLSTICE
KNIGHT'S TEMPLARS
BUSH'S DOING SATANIC WORSHIP
"TIFFANY LAMP MEETINGS"
KIMBALL CASTLE, SEDALIA, COLORADO
To Whom It May Concern:
June 21 and December 22 each year, Satanist, perform Human Sacrifices as part of their Satanic rituals. These are known as the "Summer and Winter Solstice".
During these rituals an Human Infant is killed and sacrificed to Satan (Baphemet-the Goat Headed Demon),
and the Satanist drink the blood of the Infant Human they sacrifice, and Baphemet appears before them and goes out to kill the enemies of those satanist who perform this Human Sacrifice.
I am a Nationally know Federal Whistleblower:
I currently have a Federal Grand Jury Demand filed in Las Vegas, Nevada US District Court Sept 2001. Case Number CV-S-01-0714-PMP-PAL soon to be appealed.
This case filing states I can prove The Bush Crime Family Stole 1 trillion Dollars from America.
Most of my exposure of corruption has centered around the BUSH CRIME FAMILY and "THE DENVER CONNECTION ". Involving Leonard Yale Millman, Phil Winn, Larry Mizel, Norman Phillip Brownstein, James M. Lyons, Neil Bush, Terry Constedine, Fredrico Pena, Wellington Webb and other Criminals involving the scandals below.
Which has included the following:
1. 1989 HUD Housing and Urban Development Scandal
2. The Savings and Loan Scandals (Silverado and Lincoln Savings)
3. The Denver International Airport Scandal and it's secret underground base.
4. The MDC Holdings-Denver 200---Keating 5 Scandal
5. Iraq Gate/BNL Bank/ Gulf War Syndrome Scandal
6. The Oklahoma Bombing (CIA Involvement)
7. Iran-Contra Drug Money Laundering Mena Ak. to Denver Colorado. (M & L Business Machines Co)
8. Whitewater Development (Involving James Lyons, Bill and Hillary Clinton)
9. Blackmail of Congressman and Senators (The Boulder Properties Scandal, Media By Pass Magazine Dec 1999 and May 2000 aka "Bush Crime Family parts 1 & 2)
(All the above "The Denver Connection" to The Bush Crime Family, Leonard Yale Millman-King-Pin).
10. The Tiffany Lamp Meetings--Human Sacrifice in Sedalia Colorado at the Kimball Castle
(Summer and Winter Solstice) June 21 and December 22, involving the following known persons:
George Herbert Walker Bush (Former CIA Director, Former President USA,
Knights Templar, The Church of Satan)
George W. Bush (President of USA, Knights Templar, The Church of Satan)
Jeb Bush (Governor Florida, Knights Templar, The Church of Satan)
Leonard Yale Millman (Bush Crime Family "The Denver Connection"--Kingpin-Money Launderer, Knights Templar Banker-The Church of Satan, member
council of 13)
George Shultz (Former Secretary of State USA, Knights Templar, The Church of Satan)
Henry Kissinger aka Hennie Kissinger (Former Secretary of State and NSA USA,
Knights Templar Banker-The Church of Satan, member council of 13)
Lawrence Rockefeller (Banker New York, Knights Templar Banker, The Church of Satan, council of 13 member)
Carl Lindar (Bush Crime Family "The Ohio Connection"--Kingpin-Money Launderer, Knights Templar Banker, The Church of Satan, council of 13 member)
David Rockefeller (Banker NY, Knights Templar Banker, The Church of Satan, council of 13 member)
And many other Knights Templars who worship Baphemet and are Part of the "Tiffany Lamp Meetings Group"
This group is known as the USA "Shadow Government with in the Government". Leaders who dictate USA World Policy, that are known Satanists.
During these meetings a Human Infant is abducted from usually a hospital in the surrounding area.
And sacrificed to Satan (Baphomet) as part of these sick psychos rituals.
A report of these events was given to the FBI-Denver Field Office on November 20th, 2001,
Stating the above and that a murder of a child (infant) would take place, and that this Satanic murder, would involve the above named persons.
YOUR USA FBI WILL DO NOTHING TO PREVENT THIS MURDER OF A CHILD BY THESE MEN.
Please take videos to this location, The Kimball Castle in Sedalia, Colorado, (Sedalia is south of Denver at the Castle rock exit and west to Wadsworth then north 1/2 mile on the east side).
Further after these Satanists do their murder, you will normally find them at the "Cherry Creek Country Club " playing Golf.
They further are known to stay at the Brown Palace Hotel Downtown Denver.
They further are known to Party at Leonard Yale Millman's home and office at 2400 Cherry Creek Dr. North # 70 Denver, Colorado.
(University and Cherry Creek Drive).
This is one of the Indictments for murders, (Human Sacrifices) I intend on bringing before a US Federal Grand Jury.
If you may have any questions, please do not hesitate in calling me.
Thank You
COMMENT #58 [Permalink]
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mike
said on 11/2/2005 @ 3:39 pm PT...
BUSH SATANIC HUMAN SACRIFICE
December 22, 2001
SUMMER--WINTER SOLSTICE
KNIGHT'S TEMPLARS
BUSH'S DOING SATANIC WORSHIP
"TIFFANY LAMP MEETINGS"
KIMBALL CASTLE, SEDALIA, COLORADO
To Whom It May Concern:
June 21 and December 22 each year, Satanist, perform Human Sacrifices as part of their Satanic rituals. These are known as the "Summer and Winter Solstice".
During these rituals an Human Infant is killed and sacrificed to Satan (Baphemet-the Goat Headed Demon),
and the Satanist drink the blood of the Infant Human they sacrifice, and Baphemet appears before them and goes out to kill the enemies of those satanist who perform this Human Sacrifice.
I am a Nationally know Federal Whistleblower:
I currently have a Federal Grand Jury Demand filed in Las Vegas, Nevada US District Court Sept 2001. Case Number CV-S-01-0714-PMP-PAL soon to be appealed.
This case filing states I can prove The Bush Crime Family Stole 1 trillion Dollars from America.
Most of my exposure of corruption has centered around the BUSH CRIME FAMILY and "THE DENVER CONNECTION ". Involving Leonard Yale Millman, Phil Winn, Larry Mizel, Norman Phillip Brownstein, James M. Lyons, Neil Bush, Terry Constedine, Fredrico Pena, Wellington Webb and other Criminals involving the scandals below.
Which has included the following:
1. 1989 HUD Housing and Urban Development Scandal
2. The Savings and Loan Scandals (Silverado and Lincoln Savings)
3. The Denver International Airport Scandal and it's secret underground base.
4. The MDC Holdings-Denver 200---Keating 5 Scandal
5. Iraq Gate/BNL Bank/ Gulf War Syndrome Scandal
6. The Oklahoma Bombing (CIA Involvement)
7. Iran-Contra Drug Money Laundering Mena Ak. to Denver Colorado. (M & L Business Machines Co)
8. Whitewater Development (Involving James Lyons, Bill and Hillary Clinton)
9. Blackmail of Congressman and Senators (The Boulder Properties Scandal, Media By Pass Magazine Dec 1999 and May 2000 aka "Bush Crime Family parts 1 & 2)
(All the above "The Denver Connection" to The Bush Crime Family, Leonard Yale Millman-King-Pin).
10. The Tiffany Lamp Meetings--Human Sacrifice in Sedalia Colorado at the Kimball Castle
(Summer and Winter Solstice) June 21 and December 22, involving the following known persons:
George Herbert Walker Bush (Former CIA Director, Former President USA,
Knights Templar, The Church of Satan)
George W. Bush (President of USA, Knights Templar, The Church of Satan)
Jeb Bush (Governor Florida, Knights Templar, The Church of Satan)
Leonard Yale Millman (Bush Crime Family "The Denver Connection"--Kingpin-Money Launderer, Knights Templar Banker-The Church of Satan, member
council of 13)
George Shultz (Former Secretary of State USA, Knights Templar, The Church of Satan)
Henry Kissinger aka Hennie Kissinger (Former Secretary of State and NSA USA,
Knights Templar Banker-The Church of Satan, member council of 13)
Lawrence Rockefeller (Banker New York, Knights Templar Banker, The Church of Satan, council of 13 member)
Carl Lindar (Bush Crime Family "The Ohio Connection"--Kingpin-Money Launderer, Knights Templar Banker, The Church of Satan, council of 13 member)
David Rockefeller (Banker NY, Knights Templar Banker, The Church of Satan, council of 13 member)
And many other Knights Templars who worship Baphemet and are Part of the "Tiffany Lamp Meetings Group"
This group is known as the USA "Shadow Government with in the Government". Leaders who dictate USA World Policy, that are known Satanists.
During these meetings a Human Infant is abducted from usually a hospital in the surrounding area.
And sacrificed to Satan (Baphomet) as part of these sick psychos rituals.
A report of these events was given to the FBI-Denver Field Office on November 20th, 2001,
Stating the above and that a murder of a child (infant) would take place, and that this Satanic murder, would involve the above named persons.
YOUR USA FBI WILL DO NOTHING TO PREVENT THIS MURDER OF A CHILD BY THESE MEN.
Please take videos to this location, The Kimball Castle in Sedalia, Colorado, (Sedalia is south of Denver at the Castle rock exit and west to Wadsworth then north 1/2 mile on the east side).
Further after these Satanists do their murder, you will normally find them at the "Cherry Creek Country Club " playing Golf.
They further are known to stay at the Brown Palace Hotel Downtown Denver.
They further are known to Party at Leonard Yale Millman's home and office at 2400 Cherry Creek Dr. North # 70 Denver, Colorado.
(University and Cherry Creek Drive).
This is one of the Indictments for murders, (Human Sacrifices) I intend on bringing before a US Federal Grand Jury.
If you may have any questions, please do not hesitate in calling me.
Thank You