Not to rain on Bush's accountability day, but I couldn't resist (heh, heh, heh...)

CONFIRMED: Bush Lied about being Uninformed about Brown

From K.O.:

And his departure was not even unattended by confusion. In Brown's statement, he wrote, "As I told the President, it is important that I leave now." But when first asked about it during his tour of Mississippi, Mr. Bush said he had no details, hadn't talked to Brown or Homeland Security chief Chertoff, and, "maybe you know something I don't know." Later, press secretary Scott McClellan said that the President had already known about the resignation --- he just hadn't known that it had been made public.

And he was already just minutes away from naming Brown's successor: Duct Tape Man.

From Capital Hill Blue:

White House sources confirmed the timeline Monday night, saying the President was “caught off guard” when a miffed Brown announced the resignation on his own while Bush was in New Orleans and reporters started asking questions...

...On the flight down, Bush told Chertoff to get materials ready to announce appointment of R. David Paulison, head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s emergency preparedness force, to lead the beleaguered agency. Paulison’s appointment was announced as soon as Bush returned to Washington.

"Paulison was vetted (checked out) over the weekend after the decision was made to get rid of Brown," a Bush insider says.

LOL Brad! Great Pic!

Hmmm... I wonder who told Bush to say that he was "taking responsibility"? Bush couldn't have come up with this incredibly amazing novel idea all by himself!

I am holding my breath. If you will recall there is one other time shrub accepted responsibility.

http://www.detnews.com/2...7/31/politics-231775.htm

This sumbitch is slippery. This public "Acceptance of Responsibility" is nothing but smoke.

Keep your eyes on the prize. We need to regain control of the House and/or Senate. Pressure your elected officials. E mail, voice mail, letters.
Our future depends on our commitment.

Didn’t he go on vacation a few days before he visited New Orleans? Maybe he can get some fishing in during his tour of the disaster.

Mayor Nagin Blames Bush for Lower Body Count
by Scott Ott

(2005-09-12) --- New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin today blamed President George Bush for the lower-than-expected number of bodies discovered in the receding flood waters, and said it's part of a White House campaign "to prevent black people from getting what they deserve."

Last week, Mayor Nagin predicted that as many as 10,000 corpses would be found due to the Bush administration's slow response to the crisis, however, so far the total number of flood-related deaths is closer to 200.

"We were on track to have the most horrifying natural disaster in America's history," said the mayor, "but Bush knew that would generate huge compassion and lots of cash flowing to this predominantly-black community."....

'snip'
"Follow the money," said Mr. Nagin. "Low body-count means less federal aid and less redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor black folks of my city. You don't have to be a cable guy to figure out that this benefits George Bush and his rich cronies."

Ha! So Rove finally made him apoligize to boost his favorability ratings.

Problem is, Bush couldn't even face the cameras because he hated to have to own up to anything. I didn't see it as sincere at all. It looked like he was made to do it much against his wishes.

Shutup for the final time Bush, and do the actual important thing. Yes you're responsible and for the Iraq war too. So now be held accountable, and resign period.

You said the buck stops here. Then turn in your papers. And Ray Nagin too, that bastard Mayor who never should have done this. He's a crony exscuse for the fourth- "reich" mobile and has no integrity....

That guy Nagin makes tupac shakur look like cindarella, in a sad way. Prevent black people from getting what they deserve is a comment against the poor.

Doug E.

Doug,

That was Scott Ott's satire. Aie Aie

Why could the people not get help from the National Guard at the Superdome? Now we find out. Where was CNN and Fox News for this one?

Because Amid Katrina Chaos, Congressman Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., who represents New Orleans and is a senior member of the powerful Ways and Means Committee, Used National Guard to Visit (HIS) Home.

Two Heavy Trucks, Helicopter **(that should have been taking food and water to the stranded people)**Were Involved in Lawmaker's Trip at Height of Crisis

http://www.abcnews.go.co...ry?id=1123495&page=1

""Lt. Col. Pete Schneider of the Louisiana National Guard tells ABC News that during the tour, Jefferson asked that the truck take him to his home on Marengo Street, in the affluent uptown neighborhood in his congressional district. According to Schneider, this was not part of Jefferson's initial request.""

President Bush's fault he did that I bet.

So, what about the pundits who said Bush had zero responsibility? And the bloggers? Now Bush himself takes responsibility. I love it, when this happens, and the rightwing bloggers have "no comment".

The Bush administration also said there's no WMD's and no Sadaam links to Al Qaeda, but there is still a % of rightwing idiots and hicks who still believe it!

Commander HAWK:

Nice try, but you can't blame any of the senators who are democrats since they don't control the government. It has two or three republicans there, too who are failures.

No, the fault of disaster prevention would fall squarely on FEMA's shoulders. Blanco did everything she was supposed to do and followed the law. Nagin, he got into bed with Bush and basically said fuck louisiana.

Doug E.

I figured they stuffed Nagins campaign pockets,
and gave him the old "we'll quit blaming you if you shut up"routine, problem solved

Why is HCOCDR still picking on Nagin, they must not have got the new talking points yet, "no more bad talk about Nagin, we got to him already"

So What, if he takes responsibility. Easy words from a heartless bi-ped. Next disastor: USA.

HAHAHA This is better than a shot of caffiene this morning.
It was BREAKING NEWS on the CNN webpage yesterday!
I didn't see the little piggy wings at firdt.

A cornered animal is vicious. I think all of us should beware. President Cheerleader would rather see us all perish in a sea of molten fire than allow us the satisfaction of his impeachment. Do not misunderestimate him. In comparison, Nixon had nobility. Nixon resigned. Don't expect such a dignified exit from GWB.

Don't know if it means anything, Brad, but I received an e-mail from someone named St. John the Divine, who lives on the island of Patmos.

Something about an apocalypse, and everything being revealed to me. My spam blocker missed it, somehow.

Reckon it's HIGH TIME for this mentally disturbed little Bush Lovin troll to run along, dont you?

Brad re #6 - Oooooh, you are a sick lil puppy - I really like that about you *L*

I got that same pic from my Radical Rebel Homeschooler's group yesterday, been looking for a link so I could post it here but you beat me to it!

Don't fall into the Bush Trap he is much smarter than you think. LA will now lose a congressional seat because of the exodus of the people of NO. They are being given homes in the middle class neighborhoods all over the US, where their votes for the Dems will be useless. They are being given jobs and the things they need to start over scattered to the three winds. Once they get a taste of that they will never come back to huddle in squalor while they wait for a government handout from their real oppressors.

The dems must have slept in today for the hearings on Roberts. What are we paying them for? They don't even come to work.

There are a couple of articles at Rawstory that give me the creeps right now - as in, better keep a very close eye on these people....

The first is titled: FEMA, La. outsource Katrina body count to firm implicated in body-dumping scandals

Then we have: La. reporters told 'no photos, no stories' If press writes body recover stories, Army soldier will 'kick them out of the state.'

Is it just me, or.....?

Hi guys! I keep thinking that maybe Rove let the shrub burn a little by not helping him out and telling him what to do in the early Katrina days in an effort to drive home to bush how important Rove is to him. You know, just in case they were willing to let Rove hang for the plame blame game.

Ya know, I will say one thing for the trolls here, to their credit - VERY FEW of them try to pretend they are good and decent people who are just here trying to convince us all that we are mistaken. That's a definite sign that they don't even believe their OWN rhetoric - else they'd spend time attacking ISSUES instead of PEOPLE.

But it's nice when the bulls**t is right out there in the open where you can see it. Makes it easier not to step in it.

Thanks y'all.

I really think everyone needs to see these videos of what is really going on. Please watch. It is scary.

Blackwater (also contracted in Iraq), private
mercenaries hired by Louisiana governor
& homeland security deployed & patrol New Orleans. Overkill feared. 
US tax dollars pay for
this private firm.  Again, must WATCH Assoc. Press - GULF
RECOVERY video

OK Georgie here's the deal - you are tanking at the polls and we need to lift you back up again. We - er I mean You - are starting to get things under a little bit of control - what with getting rid of Brownie and all - so what you need to do is go out and take the blame - lets show them you are mortal. Then they will all feel sorry for you and your polls will rocket back up again. So go Georgie say you're sorry - you don't have to mean it though - just lie as usual. You can make this disaster work for you just like it did with 9-11.

Then you can go fishing in the streets again and we will take care of the rest.

Signed Karl and Dick

Not sure how I got that font? - Wasn't trying to make it bold.

We saw the 'responsibility' speech and it was as if someone else was pulling the words out of his mouth. I mean physically, Bush turned and sort of spat it out. Must have tasted really bad.

Thought it strange that FEMA had not signed a new contract with Kenyon Co to recover the bodies after it ran out yesterday. Governor Blanco had to sign a new contract to continue the job.

Gee, the Texas morticians that waited for days for FEMA would have helped. But were turned back by FEMA.

{ed note: Comment deleted due to flagrant and repeated violations of the very few rules we have here. Including, posting comments under different names and insulting other commenters.}

I never trust these admissions of responsibility. Too often it is a means of avoiding looking for the true cause. It is to easy to say that Bush has admitted to generic responsibiity and we can get on with our lives without ever finding discovering (and changing) the details of WHY and HOW they went wrong. Its just another scam on Bush's part to look like a good leader by accepting responsibility, but at the same time not changing anything.

It may not work this time. This article that is forthcoming in Harpers is a great commentary on the politics of disaster. The uses of disaster

The boy in the WH is pulling another fast one. Once again....it's Karl Rove's staging effects. Sob, sob...mea culpa - with limitations.... read it carefully.

Meantime, we've been scammed royally this week....did you even know?

IN YOUR FACE, AMERICA: for the scams,
CLICK HERE

The boy in the WH is pulling another fast one. Once again....it's Karl Rove's staging effects. Sob, sob...mea culpa - with limitations.... read it carefully.

Meantime, we've been scammed royally this week....did you even know?

IN YOUR FACE, AMERICA: for the scams,
CLICK HERE

Just read Cecila Vega of San Francisco Chronicle said 82nd Air Borne said "no photos, no stories" or you will lose access to the city. Also reporters and photographers can only come as close as 300 meters which is about 3 football fields to the recovery scene.

No stories about the recovery, whats that about?

TWELVE - STEPS and TWELVE - PRINCAPALS

For Global Recovery

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WE... Raise Both Hands in the AIR
( if You want to )

Citizens of Planet Earth,

Do here-by declare and do hereby proclaim

and Announce to the World that WE...

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1. Admit we are powerless over global problems, that our world has become unmanageable.

2. Came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could remove all out fears

and restore the world and all people of the planet to sanity.

3. Made the decision to turn our will, our life and global problems over to a Higher Power

as we understand the Creator to be.

4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of our personal

and collective Global Community wrongs

against the planet and the people.

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Continued at…

http://www.OneGlobalCommunity.com

Scroll Down till you see ALL LINKS

Then click on 12 STEPS and TWELVE HELPFUL PRINCAPALS

Thank You, Roger Drowne EC

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The way I see it is that Bush had more to lose (the 38% who still think he's doing a "bang up job") and not much to gain by taking the responsibility.

Where the h--- was this responsibility on Tuesday morning, August 30... the day after the hurricane hit??? That's when we needed him.

Will this be permanent? Will Bushco finally reverse the Misery Index for the first time since they took office? Will Bushco finally give a damn about those of us who don't earn $2 million or more per year?

Don't hold your breath.

But I sure hope to God that I am wrong!

"brownie" just called chertoff wanting to make sure that the reports on his resignation were true ... brownie asked: "Did I really resign and why?"

brownie said that he hated his own wife and asked chertoff not to use the sempiternal excuse of "wanting to spend more time with blah blah blah"

On a lighter note I must warn the bloggers to watch carefully the "re-organizing" of the media, the corralling of the cattle if you wish .

This corralling of the media although fervently wished untrue by the bush-haters is on its way.

Just look at tim "potato head" russert as he joined in the rove counter attack by blaming po' lil' ol' Nagin ... one would wish that russert would also grill our own poster boy for the clueless, the vilest of them all: bush-the-incompetent!

EVERYONE is happy to look/point at bush's admission of a mistake. WHAT FOR?!
Didn't you know he made hundreds of those mistakes and not admitting to it before did not make them less true.

What I can see is that now they are going to focus on the boy-wonder as a way to "temporarily contain" the media and establish a false "order of importance" of the press release(r)s.

It is called stealing the spotlight. The idiot will "catapult his propaganda" and the media will sell its ad-time as usual.

Remember that the repentance of a hypocrite is hypocrisy itself!!

bush is vile and obscene and stupid by/in nature. Why think that he will change?
Now he knows that his god still loves him, that his god has not blamed bush for anything.

If you guys do not see the religious spinners circling the WH -as they prayed with clinton- then you need another pair of binoculars.

The focus on bush is easy to understand. When all is said and done the moron will ask for another chance and promise to get it right this time and the idiotic masses will all cheer him. The public is as stupid today as it was 2 weeks ago ... it will be even more stupid in the future.

Focusing attention on the unimportant! People are saying: "Screw the pictures of the flooded streets and the corpses floating around, bush is on tv, let us see him make a fool of himself". That is the point lad, he won't make a fool of himself ... rove is preparing that idiot every minutes of the day. bush still will not be answering questions, he'll have his speeches ready and stick to them.

The best that could happen -but it won't- would be not to give the moron the photo-ops he is being given by the same media that you guys thought is now doing a great job. NO THEY ARE NOT DOING A GREAT JOB!!! How hard is it to report the Truth?
They are not better than bush!

How can you think that the media -the american media that is- could distort what the world was looking at on their own tv.

Remember that even the most stupid among the "95 points I.Q. bunch" could not swallow more of chris matthews' bullshit. The public has reached a saturation point and the numbing is going to get worse.

The media is in for the $MONEY$, clear and simple!!

Doing a great job for the media would be to UNDO AND CORRECT the untold damage they have done for YEARS!!

Do not think for a minute that they will lose billions of dollars in revenues by admitting that they are the reason we are stuck with bush.

YOU TOO MUST STOP PATTING THE MEDIA ON THE BACK! They are the ones that screwed you, remember?!

All the spineless apologists that even mentioned that the media is doing a good job should ask to have their heads examined. Their own spotlights are on them, of course they are going to behave... but NOT FOR LONG!!

You too should stop patting yourselves on the back that your media has returned ... the media is still "bought" and you should be careful ...

You have one question to ask yourselves: "Could the media survive telling the Truth about itself?!"

I doubt many here are patting the media on the back. The media, brownie, bu$h et al - are all doing a "heckuva" job. They should all do the right thing and resign. The media has just as much blood on its hands as the rest of the criminal cabal.

Isn't it interesting - Republican Mississippi Governor not among those attacked by Bush and Republicans
by August Keso, September 12th, 2005

[snip] According to Bush-Rove and Republicans, all blame for Katrina must be placed not at their feet --- never at THEIR feet --- and certainly not anywhere near Republican Governor Haley Barbour's feet, but rather squarely upon the door-step of Louisiana's Democratic Governor Blanco. Never mind at this very moment the death toll in Mississippi exceeds Louisiana's or that Blanco started begging for help from Bush on or about August 26. Forget ALL that, and just remember: Don't blame Bush...oh, and all the now, poorest of the poor homeless folks are just darned happy to be living in football stadiums under the rule of George W. Bush. [snip] **MORE**

Now --- I do not suggest that people should not donate to Katrina victims/survivors. However, this article makes a whole lot of sense to me:

CHARITIES ARE FOR SUCKERS

Leave Katrina Relief Efforts to Government

By Ted Rall
Tue Sep 13, 6:22 PM ET

[snip] NEW YORK--Hurricane Katrina has prompted Americans to donate more than $700 million to charity, reports the Chronicle of Philanthropy. So many suckers, so little foresight.

Government has been shirking its basic responsibilities since the '80s, when Ronald Reagan sold us his belief that the sick, poor and unlucky should no longer count on "big government" to help them, but should rather live and die at the whim of contributors to private charities. The Katrina disaster, whose total damage estimate has risen from $100 to $125 billion, marks the culmination of Reagan's privatization of despair.

The American Red Cross leads the post-Katrina sweepstakes, quickly closing in on the $534 million it took in just after 9/11. But Red Cross spokeswoman Sheila Graham told the AP it needs another half billion "to provide emergency relief over the coming weeks for thousands of evacuees who have scattered among 675 of its shelters in 23 states."

... It's ridiculous, but people evidently need to be reminded that the United States is not only the world's wealthiest nation but the wealthiest society that has existed anywhere, ever. The U.S. government can easily pick up the tab for people inconvenienced by bad weather--if helping them is a priority. That goes double for Katrina, a disaster caused by the government's conscious decision to eliminate the $50 million pittance needed to improve New Orleans' levees. [snip] **MORE**

Buzzflash.com has a link to the YellowDog blog and his list of 25 questions for the 39% who still support Bush. One really caught my eye:

"On a scale of one to ten, with ten being President Bush and one being a rock, just how stupid are you?"

Buzzflash also has a couple of links to stories about the Homeland Security Agency having overall authority to manage the emergency and they held off on delegating authority to FEMA for a couple of days because Bush (Georgie Boy) also assigned a presidential task force to the same job and made HSA part of that task force. Bungle Boy messed it up personally.

Right-on, Brad!
As we all know, today, Bush went to "speak" to the UN, and just a few minutes ago, he was in Israel for "photo ops" to continue his pursuit of the PNAC's goal. What a schmuck he is! He appealed to the Arabs to help protect the Gaza strip!

Has anyone checked how much interest alone 534 million would make in one year at say 2.5%?
And then times 4 years? And I'll bet 534 million can get a lot better rate than that.

Now even with the hurricanes in Florida and a small amount of Tsunami relief, shouldn't there be a few dollars left? How about an audit from the Red Cross since it is public money being donated.

Bush the idiot its time for you and yours to resign like the pathetic shits you are, and Ray Nagin too.

LETS FLOOD THEM EVERY DAY TO RESIGN....AND THEN JOIN THE WASHINGTON D.C. MALL IN SOLIDARITY

Doug E.

Doug --- don't forget the major spin everybody is hearing. Don't fall prey to it.

This article is from the LA Times and requires a subscription. If you have one, please read the whole 17 page article because (even though they are IMHO much too soft on the pRez. et al) it is a strong indictment against the crooks:

Put to Katrina's Test

[snip] Survivors were already waving for help from rooftops and increasingly restless residents displaced without food or water were demanding help outside the Superdome, where they had sought safety before Katrina struck. As the emergency response floundered on television screens around the world, some White House aides suggested state and local officials were to blame. By then, however, it had become a federal problem.

"The moment the president declared a federal disaster, it became a federal responsibility," said Jane Bullock, who spent 22 years at FEMA under presidents of both parties. [snip]

Kira: Right you are, but the GOP spin has just about fallen apart...And lets remember mayor Nagin cut a deal with this imbecile a while ago. He's really a GOP stooge who cares nothing for his state....

Doug

Bush is taking a page from the Reagan playbook - after the bombing in Beruit the Gipper did a half-assed responsibility-taking then they called off any investigations. Don't let it happen here! He will re-enforce this message on TV Thursday night, against all that is natural to W, in an effort to "move ahead and put this behind us" with carefully-scripted homilies and down-home lies that make it sound like he gives a flying f*** about anybody other than his base. So, flood your senator's offices and newspapers with letters calling for a 9/11 type inquiry first. I will.

Bush is taking a page from the Reagan playbook - after the bombing in Beruit the Gipper did a half-assed responsibility-taking then they called off any investigations. Don't let it happen here! He will re-enforce this message on TV Thursday night, against all that is natural to W, in an effort to "move ahead and put this behind us" with carefully-scripted homilies and down-home lies that make it sound like he gives a flying f*** about anybody other than his base. So, flood your senator's offices and newspapers with letters calling for a 9/11 type inquiry first. I will.

Davek You got that right.....time to pull off the gloves and knock down the ploy!!!!

Be forceful and clear with your represenatives, make sure they fight with tenacity!!!

Doug E.

Compare the effort ,if only JEB was Gov in the Gulf
and if it was election year.Its wasn't a lack of ability it was a lack of motive.

It is the 1st I ever saw the bastard tell the truth on TV. Very selective accountability. The pussy was to scared to talk to Cindy right in front of his own place. Maybe this new found accountability will jar other fcknut appologies. Admit responsibility for 911, electronic and humanistic fraud in the last 2 presidential elections and the environment. Mr. President - rereverse the 400 enviromental laws and standards you altered, including changing back the rules of forestry you changed last Dec. and Clinton's Roadless Rule law protecting 58 million acres of forest, and sign the Gore's Kyoko treaty to reduce global warming, and we'll talk about reducing your prison sentence.

Doug - here's a BBC article regarding Ray Nagin:

In 2001, [snip] Nagin the Republican repositioned himself as Nagin the Democrat, ... And his use of the City Hall website to personally endorse a Republican candidate for governor of Louisiana led to a furore, especially when the Democrat Kathleen Blanco, won the race. [snip]

So - he's a bit like Theresa LePore and other Republican infiltrators.

If he's Republican masquerading as Democrat --- hold his feet to the fire.

Gallup Refuses To Run Poll Asking Americans If Bush Should Be Impeached

Rove Launches Smear Campaign Against John Conyers

snippets----

The Detroit Free press says Rep. John Conyers "openly proclaims that his goal is nothing short of impeaching the president."

...Naturally, that makes him a major threat to Karl Rove. And we know how Rove respond to threats - with vicious character assassination campaigns.

...Aha! Now we see why Rove is engineering an attack on Conyers. But is this even true? As Brad Friedman reminds me, Conyers has never called for impeaching Bush. Can Bailey provide a single quote to the contrary? Or is she just inventing "facts" like Jayson Blair, who got fired by the NY Times for it?

-----more at link

Valley Girl: Conyers has mentioned accountability will be brought to the government, which could lead to things such as the "I" word. It was rawstory who used the I word, and Conyers awcknowledged "all options will be taken as neccesary."

So the meme was to make it look like Conyers said impeach them all but guess what? Yes, it was RAWSTORY who said it.

Rove's ignorance failes once again. He's such a horse's ass!!

Note the quote by the anonymous source from AEI, spinning anti-semitism.

These neocon shills in AEI are nothing less than racist bastards, jews? Hardly. Israelis/Zionists ruining the very name of the jews....Its very strange what they say about Conyers.....knowing what his supporters say about the AEI

Remember who the AEI is....PNAC, the AIPAC, the kahoona responsible for the bullshit. The Michael Ledeen/Ariel Sharon crooks!

Doug E.

Re: VG #54:

Hooray Bob Fertik! That's a great [kick-ass] letter he wrote to Ruby Bailey & the Public Ed. of Detroit Free Press!! Go-Bob-Go!!!! 6 or 7 of us should join in on that letter writing campaign.

What in the world is going on here??

IS THIS FOR REAL?

H RES 375, Barbara Lee's inquiry ammendment has dissapeared from the archive!!! There's no way to tell what the votes were!

Note: I can search it and look it up just fine... But I can't find anybody who voted for it or whether it passed or failed.....Sonofagun this is a total SCRUBBING AGAIN!!!!

They're trying to HIDE the failure!!!!!

Doug E.

Hold on to yer hats guys...
Mysterious 911 moving van operator reportedly back in the US

Doug E

Strange indeed - could it be because:

"as compiled through the electronic voting machine
by the House Tally Clerks under the direction of the Clerk of the House"

Damn those neocons!!!! Biggest cowards ever, they won't give up until they all go down!!!

"His addresses before 9-11 are listed as 28 Harlow Crescent Rd., Fairlawn, NJ 07410; 312 Pavonia Ave., Jersey City, NJ 07302; and 15000 Dickens, Suite 11, Sherman Oaks CA. If Suter has been permitted to re-enter the United States, the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security and its chief Michael Chertoff have a lot of explaining to do."

He's going to launch another terrorist attack....who's on full watch mode? Can everyone please alert the CORPORATE MEDIA and get their asses to COVER THIS OBVIOUS EVENT QUICKLY?

We're out of time.....these psychos are going apeshit and installed some neocon shills already in congress...We need to force the Congress itself to hold them accountable NOW!!!!!

Contact every member you know with your outrage.....tell the ones by phone and by mail, that for voting against america they will be fired.

Its HIGH time to throw down the gauntlet.....

Can you believe Henry Hyde!???! This arrogant sonofabitch is hiding the roll call votes on the government's website....We already KNOW which repubs went to block the resolution. One of em was Hyde himself and that neocon Robrabacher!!!!

Doug E.

Brad #6

Let's hope they caught a bunch of toxic lunch --- Toss 'em on the Barbie & eat 'em all up [plus a giant bag of pretzels for dessert.]

Photo Credit Reuters

Um ah that thing on my back quit working. Karl are you out there, Karl, Karl! I can't hear you! Hey John give me a hand here!

Wow, I never thought I could become more pissed off at Congress!!!

As if the embarassment of the Downing Street inquiry being voted down by only one vote wasn't enough, I can't even find the names of the voters in the congressional archive!!

I've searched index after index, and found the roll call lists for the votes about the military, Conyers joint Sensenbrenner bill and all the others....except for H RESOLUTION 375!!!

This is outrageous. It is madness. Its no less than GOP-cover your ass time in congress, and SOMEONE is going a long way to make sure that the constituents don't know who voted on that bill......

I'm about ready to TEAR apart that stonewall, I tell ya....

Doug E.

In my world, you get FIRED whether or not you admit to yourself and others that you made MAJOR errors, resulting in substantial losses for those to whom you owed the responsibility.

It's a matter of Bush being:

INCOMPETENT and prepared to LIE about it

or

INCOMPETENT, but HONEST in admitting mistakes ...

COMPETENT is not a word that can be used in the same sentence as Bush ...

It's a matter of Bush being:

INCOMPETENT and prepared to LIE about it

or

INCOMPETENT, but HONEST in admitting mistakes ...

COMPETENT is not a word that can be used in the same sentence as Bush ...

{ed note: Comment by "Kallie" aka Ken/Karla Stout/Buckshot/Pete/Clarence/etc. deleted for repeated and flagrant inability to follow the few rules we have here. Including not posting under different names and not insulting other commenters. And not acting like a 2 year old.}

Kallie/Clarence/Karla shutup and read the facts I already posted in the other topic.

I've never seen people so blind and dumb. Does this 35% actually believe the shit Karl Herr Rove spews about everything!???

Hahahaha like they even give a crap about them....Rove's playing you like a fiddle Karla, get off the train and make yourself a new home if you can stand the stench...

Peggy: Try the "I'm going to drown everything in a bathtub but I'm not responsible." on for size. That's what Grover Norquist said he'd do, and he did it by fucking the whole thing....

What a geat self conceited piece of shit, and lets see this apology......FAILED. YOU'RE FIRED!!

Pack it up....or you'll be forced out.

Doug

gw always has a layer of mgmt between him and the wrong doing. Didn't Colin Powell say "sorry about the WMD". Oooops! That is why a leader is a LEADER - they gather ALL the data and make a decision - not just one guy telling you what you want to hear! I hope whoever is running for Congress in 2006 is taking alot of notes. With all the sneakiness, lies, castastrophies there should be alot of ammunition!

gw always has a layer of mgmt between him and the wrong doing. Didn't Colin Powell say "sorry about the WMD". Oooops! That is why a leader is a LEADER - they gather ALL the data and make a decision - not just one guy telling you what you want to hear! I hope whoever is running for Congress in 2006 is taking alot of notes. With all the sneakiness, lies, castastrophies there should be alot of ammunition!

9/11 Till Now in a Nutshell ---- The Rant of a Desperate Soul

AMPLE warnings about the 9/11 plans were received by our government, from a zillion sources, for months leading up to the attacks. I'm sure I don't need to post any links for that.

Bush, Cheney and whomever else, decided it would be a good idea to hold a major national disaster exercise, never done before, personally overseen by Cheney - 1) in NYC; 2) on the morning of 9/11; 3) during the exact time period the actual events were happening; 4) jamming radars with "mock" planes and maintaining stand-down orders, thus allowing the planes to fly for over an hour all over the Northeast (something that baffled me the most, in the days following the attacks); and 5) the exercise scenerio was ...... hijacked commercial airplanes flying into the World Trade Center buildings. An amazing coincidence?

www.prisonplanet.com/021104vonbuelow.html
www.communitycurrency.org/RisesUp.html

After 3 buildings collapse in NY that shouldn't have:

www.serendipity.li/wtc5.htm
www.vestigialconscience.com/WTC7_Dud.txt

The debris is rushed away and recycled overseas immediately, preventing any investigation whatsoever (criminal or structural) by anyone. NOTE for a commen sense check here: They also claimed those indestructible black boxes were never found at the Trade Center site, none of them, zip for four (2 each plane). However, two workers claimed to pull 3 of the 4 out. Also, we're supposed to believe that those black boxes were all burned up, but flamable paper identification of the "hijackers" was found? We're supposed to believe Flight 93 came down in one piece, when debris was found 6-8 miles away from the main impact area? Not sure about the Pentagon. Secrecy and questions there too.

www.wanttoknow.info/011225nytimes
www.mindfully.org/Reform...shing-Airliner5dec04.htm
http://skolnicksreport.com/ootar14.html
www.pnionline.com/dnblog...tra/archives/001139.html

Stock market news comes out soon afterwards, where there were huge "put options" bought against the two airline companies that were involved. Just against the two airline companies that had planes crash that day. Just those two. There was a 9,000 percent jump in United Air Lines (UAL) put options between Sept. 6 and Sept. 10, with a huge spike 285 times higher than average on the Thursday before the attack. American Airlines saw a 6,000 percent jump in put options above normal the day before the attacks. However, there was no similar trading activity on any other airlines, according to market reports. And our pfffft "intelligence" didn't see this??

In the case of at least one of these trades --- which has left a $2.5 million prize unclaimed --- the firm used to place the “put options” on United Airlines stock was, until 1998, managed by the man who is now in the number three Executive Director position at the Central Intelligence Agency.

www.columbia.edu/cu/cssn...-list/2002/03/00140.html (good timeline, well documented)
www.hereinreality.com/insidertrading.html
Revealing 9/11 Stock Trades --- American Free Press

There are a ton of links in this article to support the above and more. (Also Google on any subject to read more. Please. I just tried to post a couple for each topic, there is a ton of info out there.)

www.rense.com/general22/911.htm

So we pretty much have a good idea it wasn't an accident or a surprise. I'm pretty much convinced. The government then tells us to give to the Red Cross. Which I did. That time.

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/134975.php
www.give.org/news/redcross.asp
www.charitywatch.org/hottopics/congress.html
http://prisonplanet.com/...r2005/010905redcross.htm
www.whale.to/b/red_cross_racket.html
http://archives.cnn.com/...charity.hearing/?related

Following that horrible day of 9/11, some CIA Iraqi analysts and intelligence officials felt pressure from Cheney, his Chief of Staff, Wolfowitz, Tenet, and others to find information or write reports in a way that would help the administration make the case that going into Iraq was urgent. While a personal visit to CIA HQ by a VP is not unprecedented, it is unusual. Cheney made multiple visits.

www.washingtonpost.com
www.alternet.org/story/16283/

Then there were the now famous Downing Street Memos, never once disputed by Blair or Bush as not being fact. I repeat, neither one of them has ever tried to say they were fake, forged, incorrect, altered, or otherwise not true. Neither of them have ever tried to look us in the eye and splain some of the things contained in them. Neither of them have ever brought forward documentation or witnesses to dispute them. We certainly did/do deserve them being addressed. When was "fixing the facts" changed to be legal and freaking okay with everyone? Hello?

www.timesonline.co.uk/ar...,,2087-1593607_2,00.html
www.downingstreetmemo.com/

So Bush & Co., along with Blair, lie and defy everyone and we go to war with Iraq anyways. (This includes bold-faced, documented lies to Congress and the UN). The "reasons" for the war in Iraq have gone unchallenged, from day one, and have changed close to a dozen times. The current "representatives" in charge of our house and senate. What was the last bill (what was ANY bill?) they passed that directly benefited us, just the common working people, the overwhelming MAJORITY of Americans? Not the United Corporations of America, not the rich, not the poor, not other countries......US. We the people, handing over all their hard-earned money - through taxes, laws, administration policies, or their companies' profits.

Voting is counted and Bush is re-ahhhhh-lected (I'm not gonna go there) and half his right-hand men and women bail on him. Remember how many of them retired, or moved on to something else, suddenly after the "re-election"? No flags there? What did they know? I remember I got an uneasy feeling knowing they were all getting the hell out of Dodge.

Then there was the Valerie Plame/Rove incident. No links required. So childish and very evil.

Currently, Iraq is not going well. No need for any links or current polls there. This is NOT because of the troops however, they are kicking ass. They have our total appreciation and support. They did not lie. It's the top....no viable plans, not enough troops, prisoner abuse policies, lousy equipment, not enough equipment, vehicles that roll over all the time, lack of protection, lack of supplies, etc., etc. Several Iraqi cities are completely destroyed, leveled to the ground. How sad for the people caught in the middle. My son has served a full year in Ramadi and Fallujah already. He's about to go back for another full year. I've been following the war pretty close, for a damn good reason. Cindy Sheehan wants to know why her son died. I respect that. I don't agree with all she says, but I completely support the principle of a mother's desire to know the truth. I know I personally would love to know why my son will again be fighting for his life, every moment of every day, for another solid year. He was one of those in the scrapyards, slapping chunks of metal on his humvee last time over there, while in the most dangerous part of Iraq, besides Baghdad. Bullshit.

The Iraqi people have LESS electricity and services everywhere right now, than they did before we entered the picture. Mainstream news won't touch that subject these days. They don't tell about the major unemployment, numerous relatives dead (many women left without a working member in their household), less security, less housing (buildings blown up), more anger, having enemy suicide idiots come in their town to fight our war, and having nothing to do but hide and suffer from a bunch of people invading and occupying their country STILL. Three years later and we can't even generate some Ben Franklin-type, basic 101, electricity? Or have completed training about a kazillion basic freaking armies by now (If that's ever going to be possible)? Those 2 should be in the top 5 priorities, at least. Have they been? Have they not been on purpose? Pretty sad if they have been --- while on the other hand, not to sound smartass, but Halliburton would have to lay off some $people$, should we ever decide to come home. Just a thought I recently had.

Why aren't THEY rebuilding their own country anyways? Give them some pride to rebuild and control their lives and progress. Let them earn money to feed their families. Where is their money from their oil going right now? I need to research that. If they can build those beautiful freaking palaces, pffffft, they should be able to handle some simple houses and buildings. You could also argue they built them the first time. "Staying the course" is not acceptable. Fighting our war, in their streets, is not right. Tomorrow, or 10 years from now, Iraq is going to have to carry on for themselves. My God, the weapons inspectors were there for years and years. We've spent 3 intense years (with unlimited access) over there looking. IT AIN'T THERE. Just what ARE we still looking for anyways? We got Saddam. Case closed, go home. Leave the oil alone, it's not yours. Sorry for the shouting, I'll regroup.

www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/08/18/hagel.iraq/

I just found this. Just now. My answer to the whereabouts of "their" oil. Bush took over their banks and oil revenue - and now there's $8.8 BILLION unaccounted for! That's where their oil money is. Do they know this? How did I not know this? Do we now know why the war is not ending? omg We're outright stealing their oil.

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6621523/

After Downing Street came out and things weren't going good in the public opinion polls, with American and British citizens all questioning the war reasons and policies, along comes the Britain "suicide bombings" to bring back the terror in our eyes. However, it just so happened that THEY had a "terror drill" going on that very morning in London too, just like we did on 9/11. Their "scenario" was suicide bombers blowing up the trains underground EXACTLY where it happened, exactly when it happened, too. Security cameras were turned off, etc. What are the odds? Two "terror attacks" during two national "terror drills" that just happened to directly impact/hinder everything with both.

www4.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/07/317720.html
http://cyberjournal.org/...atch='16'&lists='cj'
www.canadafreepress.com/2005/cover071405.htm

I have no clue what Blair's gain in all this is. However, I know Cheney's drive and gain in the big picture is, of course, Halliburton. Halliburton, is an oil field supply/energy corporation, and he did business with Iraq during his time as CEO, right up until he took the VP slot, prior to 9/11, which he tried to lie and say he didn't. These are the dollars known about. We can guess the real payoffs are under the radar and probably overseas, with our jobs.

www.newsmax.com/archives...es/2001/6/24/80648.shtml

Cheney said he had severed all ties with Halliburton upon taking the VP slot. OOOpsy again.

www.cbsnews.com/stories/...olitics/main575356.shtml

Well, hell, this one sums him up pretty good.

www.rotten.com/library/bio/usa/dick-cheney/

And this next clip is somewhat satisfying to all who would have loved to be the one to say it. This was a flood victim of Katrina, an emergency room physician, who was pushed just a little bit too far last week and happened to be able to go tell My Cheney personally what he thought of him, while Cheney toured near his destroyed home. "Go fuck yourself, Mr. Cheney". Amen.

www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetai...679414?htv=12&htv=12

This tells what lead up to the doctor's drive to deliver those words personally.

http://opednews.com/arti...physician_who_told_o.htm

Cheney shouldn't be at all in shock, he delivered the very similiar words "Fuck yourself" not so long ago to a senior D-Senator, on the Senate floor, while serving his roll as President of the Senate. Seems some people were questioning him about Halliburton's monopoly on contracts and he didn't like it. At all. So he told 'em to fuck off - and things were back to business as usual. I'm sure Cheney thought, "that'll be good for a couple hundred billion, before they bring THAT up again." The sad part to that smartass remark is, that it appears to be true.

www.washingtonpost.com/w...les/A3699-2004Jun24.html

As for Bush, his drive and desired gain in the big picture is even more evil and deep. Yes, he has the money thing going on too, but it even goes beyond Cheney's motives and the mighty dollar. There's something very important you may not know about the Bush family. Of all the links on here, these are the MOST IMPORTANT, in my opinion. I had never heard about our president's grandfather and greatgrandfather. Sorta splains some scary things, I think. Some important documents were recently declassified. Please listen to or read these carefully.

www.zippyvideos.com/99229271839185.html (media clip of an interview running on their site - listen closely, this man examined the documents personally)
www.guardian.co.uk/usa/s.../0,12271,1312540,00.html
www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100474,00.html

One example of this administration's recent prioritization: Alaska gets $1B this year (did I mention that's the committee chairman's home state?) for some beautiful bridges, by the recent Transportation Bill......one $300 million, or so, bridge goes to an island of about 50 people. One $200 million ($1.5 BILLION by completion) bridge goes from Anchorage to another small island with a few houses. This one will be as long as the Golden Gate and higher than the Brooklyn Bridge. Anchorage Chamber of Commerce doesn't even want it. While those 83 people benefit from (or cry at the loss of their natural beauty from) those bridges in Alaska, New Orleans' entire population was put at risk by slashing their levee budget.

This year, New Orleans asked for a lousy $78 million to help finish contracts ongoing (and very much needed) with the levees. Bush wanted to give them $30 million. They begged for it. They had engineering experts from everywhere warning them of the exact result that did happen with Katrina, if they didn't finish fixing/raising the levees. They got $36 million. They city is sinking, it's a constant need, it wasn't a one time build. So I won't even go there with the angle that budgets are tight from the wars ..... budgets are tight from the fat pork BULLSHIT. Manning and equipment are tight from the wars.

Katrina was the means, but neglect was the method, for New Orleans. I'm one very sad American for that city and everyone devistated by it. The civilian, non-red-tape, non-bullshit, non-profit, men and women who were there the first few days are heroes, every last one of them. They quite literally saved the day for a lot of people. Thank you.

http://seattletimes.nwso...02448056_bridges22m.html
www.alaskajournal.com/st...05/hom_20050424004.shtml
www.salon.com/news/featu...09/bridges/index_np.html

My final rant about Katrina, is the eye-opening news about a group of about 80, mostly black, citizens of New Orleans. This rips my heart out. They began as a small group, who were told by officials in New Orleans, they couldn't go to the dome nor the convention center. This was a couple days after Katrina hit, or the flooding began. They were told to go to a bridge up the highway, where they can cross over and catch buses. It was the MAJOR ARTERY west, across the Mississippi. They walked for miles, collecting people as they went, with the lifesaving news. By the time they reached the bridge, there were several hundred of them. They were a group, where some were in wheel chairs, some on crutches, some children, you get the picture - they weren't moving very fast. They had just been rained on and were soaking wet. They finally see the bridge ahead and before they even get there, a line of Gretna cops stood at the bridge entrance, and started firing their guns in the air above the group. Well, hell ya, the crowd sorta split up running for their lives. Can't even fathom their thoughts, as they ran for their lives in their own country. That's when the group became 80. Those 80 bravely inched their way back up asking the slugs if they could just please cross and telling them the NO officials had told them to cross there. It was a 6-lane bridge. The Gretna law enforcement bastards said there would be no foot traffic. Their land was closed. They said the West Bank was not going to become New Orleans and there would be no Superdomes in their city. Google and read, it get's worse. A Gretna slug came back at dusk and took their food and water. Only in America. I'm ashamed. That DOES NOT represent me or anyone I know personally, whatsoever. Please don't let that start a general hate among any groups of races. Those responsible are the only guilty ones - and should be kicked off this planet. The rest of us left that shit behind a couple generations ago. Honest. Anyone human is with you. Unacceptable and sad.

The crapola bills continue to be passed into law across our land. Other things "our representatives" funded by the recent Transportation Bill you may not have known about.

$2 million to replace an elevated highway so Donald Trump can build a new building.
$1.6 million for a waterfront walkway honoring Frank Sinatra in his hometown in New Jersey.
A provision granting tax credits for liquor wholesalers.

http://abcnews.go.com/GM...amp;CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

Then I could go on and on about Halliburton being the only company on the face of the earth who can do anything as they monopolize things here at home too. Yep, seems they get the main contract for clean-up from Katrina. Some of Bush's companies are first in line too. Pathetic, yet so blatent.

www.washingtonpost.com/w.../AR2005090401193_pf.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2.../katrina.contracts.reut/

It's all about the money. It's the all-mighty buck. It's about Mr. Bush, who appoints buddies who are totally unqualified to do whatever it is they get appointed to, for either ass-kissing or ass-saving rewardings. Didn't this recent Michael Brown/FEMA/not experienced fiasco cause anyone to pause and put some weight on experience? No? Roberts' lack of experience doesn't bother anyone? Why did Bush pick him over experienced judges?

Professor Oona A. Hathaway, Yale Law School, a former law clerk to Justice [Sandra Day] O'Connor, said [that] the arrival of Judge Roberts 'could re-center the court' in the direction of unchecked presidential power.
The New York Times, July 24.

I hope they are all voted out asap. All of them, no matter what party.

Finally there's the prisoner abuse, incompetence, intentional lack of border control, tax cuts to the rich, energy prices through the roof, the loss of our freedoms with the Patriot Act, the loss of our homes with imminent domain, giving our prescious money (that we don't have) away to other countries, the loss of our jobs to other countries, the loss of our respect and historical standings in the world, that stupid damn smurk I can't stand, omg it's unending......... And people are standing by this all and supporting it all, cheering for more of the same? Yikes. It has to be the haves against the havenots. It can't possibly be any one party's view this is okay. Can it?

Sorry so long, but we need to wake this sleeping, reality TV, blind as a bat, in denial, too busy to notice, too fed up to care, country of OURS. Our country. Our land of the free, home of the brave. There's a lot of bullshit going on out here and it's not good. Stop with the left/right political crapola, stop with the we/they mentality, we ALL need to unite as common American's, being flushed down the toilet and treated as slaves. Whatever your social or political status is....you'll eventually be part of the food chain. Or worse, collateral damage. Think about it.

I just want my country back before it's too late, as do all of us "horrible" people who dare to ask questions and wonder about all the secrecy and bullshit going on. He could choose to put an end to a lot of our fears, addressing things we have so many questions about. He chooses not to.

(Any references to "we" in this rant is meant to be like, we - Americans. Or perhaps, we - humans. Sometimes, probably, we - with loved ones in Iraq, past, present and future. That's it. Please don't read this as political in any way.)

When is the cavalry coming?

A Concerned Citizen

Hurray, Cindy --- One great, plain-speaking lady:

Camp Casey to DC Update

A Concerned Citizen #72 --- Here comes the Cavalry --- Cindy Sheehan, and the loving, intelligent mothers of American men and women, who are NOT going to just sit there and take it!

Peggy

House republicans have gone schitzophrenic, WTF is wrong with some of these shills?

House Republicans on the Intelligence committee decide to hold a closed door hearing, no media allowed

Now they're bringing the votes about Plame and the War behind closed doors.....SO WE CAN'T EVEN SEE WHO VOTES FOR WHAT!!!!

That is total bullshit and we need to slam all these freaks and neocon shills of the GOP!!!

Slam your congress to the wall and DEMAND they explain their votes for opposing the inquiry resolution on Plame.

Its time to demand all their heads on a platter, the ones still gripping tightly to this admin are hanging onto the titanic!!!

Congress is NOT Bush Admin's rubberstamp machine.....Its time all the sane, THINKING congress leaders say enough is enough and vote AGAINST this farce!!!!!

Doug E.

Bluebear #63 Hahaha! Caption: Can I go the bathroom? Or should I write a note?

Um... not to be too much of a stickler for details, but Mr. Bush did not exactly accept responsibility for what happened in New Orleans.

He accepted responsibility *for the federal government* in exactly the sense that the Lord of the Manor accepts responsibility if the gamekeeper shoots a pheasant on someone else's manor. He is willing to say that his servant might have-- MIGHT have-- screwed up.

This pig may have wings, but it's firmly bolted to the ground.

Oliver, you're so right. He had to be pushed into saying it by his cronies who can see his ratings falling like a rock. He's so insincere, heartless and callous to the bone. Just like his big bruiser mom.

The Cavalry is already fighting for your freedom.
Look at:

http://images.278acr.com/thumbnails.php?album=4

"Leak: Draft of Bush Answer to Cindy Sheehan
by Scott Ott

http://www.scrappleface..../MT/archives/002289.html

An internal White House memo, leaked today, indicates how President George Bush initially planned to address Cindy Sheehan's question: What "noble cause" did my son die for?

The draft memo includes suggestions from White House communications staff, followed by several paragraphs apparently handwritten by the president.

While handwriting experts from CBS News continue to pore over the document to verify its authenticity, here is the text of the president's alleged response to the grieving Mom whose protest has captured the hearts of America's journalists.

Dear Mrs. Sheehan,
You have asked me to identify the noble cause for which your son died. I have not answered you personally out of respect for the nobility of your son's sacrifice.

Being president forces me into the spotlight, but I would rather stand in the shadows of men like Casey Sheehan.

Directing national attention on my response to your protest creates a distraction from what matters. The focus of our attention, and our admiration, should rest on people like Casey Sheehan, who stand in the breach when evil threatens to break out and consume a helpless people.

The running story on the news networks should be the valiant efforts of our troops --- the merchants of mercy who export freedom and import honor. They trade their own lives for the sake of others.

As a result, we live in a nation where a woman can camp outside of the president's house and verbally attack the president for weeks on end without fear of prison, torture or death. And the number of nations where such protest is possible has multiplied thanks to the work of our military.

You ask for what noble cause your son died?

In a sense he died so that people like you, who passionately oppose government policies, can freely express that opposition. As you camp in Crawford, you should take off your shoes, for you stand on holy ground. This land was bought with the blood of men like your son.

Now, 25 million Iraqis cry out to enjoy the life you take for granted. Most of them will never use their freedom to denigrate the sacrifice of those who paid for it. But once liberty is enshrined in law, they will be free to do so. And when the Iraqis finally escape their incarceration, hope will spread throughout that enslaved region of the world, eventually making us all safer and more free.

The key is in the lock of the prison door. Bold men risk everything to turn it.

Mrs. Sheehan, everyone dies. But few experience the bittersweet glory of death with a purpose --- death that sets people free and produces ripples of liberty hundreds of years into the future.

Casey Sheehan died that freedom might triumph over bondage, hope over despair, prosperity over misery. He died restoring justice and mercy. He lived and died to help to destroy the last stubborn vestiges of the Dark Ages.

To paraphrase President Lincoln, the world will little note nor long remember what you and I say here. But it can never forget what Casey Sheehan did during his brief turn on earth. If we are wise, we will take increased devotion to that cause for which he gave the last full measure of devotion.

Our brave warriors have blazed a trail. They have entrusted the completion of the task to those of us they left behind. Let's, you and I, resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain.

Let's finish the work that they have thus far so nobly advanced.

Sincerely,
George W. Bush"

The President has started something.

The President George Bush is not going to get to take more blame then we are. We dems can never let that happen.

http://www.washtimes.com...0050914-115653-8272r.htm

""Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco yesterday took responsibility for failures and missteps in the immediate response to Hurricane Katrina and pledged a united effort to rebuild areas ravaged by the storm.

...The Democratic governor, who has criticized the response of federal officials to the storm and subsequent flood that deluged New Orleans, yesterday told legislators that Mr. Bush is "a friend and partner" in Louisiana's recovery effort."""

To paraphrase President Lincoln,
"We all declare for liberty; but in using the same word we do not all mean the same thing. With some the word liberty may mean for each man to do as he pleases with himself, and the product of his labor; while with others, the same word many mean for some men to do as they please with other men, and the product of other men's labor. Here are two, not only different, but incompatible things, called by the same name - liberty. And it follows that each of the things is, by the respective parties, called by two different and incompatible names - liberty and tyranny."

September 15, 2005 1897 American Soldiers have died...the last on Sept 11th 2005. He was 21 years old. Had not even begun to taste life.

Peace and flowers in Iraq ? Twelve explosions yesterday killing 160 people wounding 570 people.

Does anyone else notice that those shouting the loudest with the same refrain might just be questioning the lies they want to believe?

How can someone on the front lines not wonder why it is that NOT ONE BUSH FAMILY MEMBER IS ENLISTED IN THE NOBLE CAUSE?

Ask yourself "why is my life cheaper than theirs?"

#79
Hogwash, and worse. Damage control. Why didn't he use it? Why does it appear now? Has it been sent to Cindy Sheehan?

I would really, really like to hear her response.

#80 Trent Lott had a wonderful response that would fit Governor Blanco's comment.

"Mrs. Lott didn't raise no dummy, you don't bite the hand you need help from."

Very cute, HCOCDR. But I knew it was a hoax even three sentences in.

George Bush could always have taken half an hour out to meet Mrs. Sheehan privately. Instead, he chose to fly far away, and ended up out of position when his moment of trial came. Because he refused to face Sheehan, he will always be remembered as the president who drowned New Orleans.

I am sorry to see that there are Americans such as yourself with this sort of simplistic view of history, in which the United States is always the glorious liberator and its opponent is always Hitler. The real story is a little more complex.

There *is* great idealism on the part of the men who do the actual dying. Very often, their commanders are terrifically cynical. Read up on the US role in the wars in Central America. It's a very ugly history, with the US crushing democracies and engaging in torture and genocide against civilians. And Americans are so naive that they actually believed the Sandinistas were preparing to drive up to Harlingen Texas.

Our leaders were especially cynical with Iraq. We know they lied to America and to the world to get us to go along. Now, the right is crowing about glad they are to have been lied to. How sad such people are.

As sad as they are, people like yourself I would say are even sadder. Here you are, having been called on presenting a fabrication as if it were truth, and what will you do about it? Will you reflect on the gospel passage that "the father of all lies is Satan "? Or will you, like Bush, flee from dealing with reality when faced with someone who rebukes you?

HCOCDR - I don't really think that's real. The person reporting it is from a Bush-hugging clan, read the responses. I don't think Bush could put that many sentences together. It's too dramatic. We'll have to wait and see on that one, but thank you for the news. Hope in a way it's not true.

I cringe at their responses on that site. They obviously have not had their child or relative spend time in Iraq, or had them come home with PTSD, possibly affecting them (and their family) for the rest of their lives. They obviously have money to burn, because they aren't feeling the pain enough yet to inform themselves of why they are feeling the pain. Back to the food chain.

The Bush family (not US....just THEM) got Iraq's checkbook, $8+BILLION in "misplaced" (i.e. pocketed) oil revenue, and we should just shut up, cheerfully donate our prescious children, and keep working quietly. Actually, I'm figuring that $8,000,000,000 is the payroll for the whole administration's silence. America has been sold for billions in cash + Halliburton.

When I get my second job, in order to keep my house, heat it, pay my taxes, and gas to get to both jobs, (inbetween watching the TV to see if my son's unit gets blown up in Iraq) --- I have to tell you..... I'm going to be angry and resentful. I miss our America we had, not so long ago.

Re: Comment by Concerned Citizen "I miss our America we had, not so long ago."

This statement brought to mind a song lyric from the Vietnam era who's relevance is even more exigent now:

"America, where are you now?
Don't you care about your sons and daughters?
Don't you know, we need you now.
We can't fight alone against the MONSTER..."

When asked about his feelings on
Roe vs. Wade, George Bush responded,
"I don't care how people get out of New Orleans."

To Concerned Citizen - HCOCDR keeps saying how much the Iraqi people are loving having us there.

And HCOCDR tell how the troops are not in harms way and just reading books and relaxing. Plus he or she has alot of time to write garbage on this blog.

Now I have 3 family members over there and they never get to relax..one has been extended over a year. Their best friend lost his life, because of an IED, and in May vehicles were still not armoured fully.

What does your son say, we know he is really a soldier.

And Concerned Citizen....all the voices on this blog agree with you..except for the paid hacks that are "trying to inform us". Because I think even the Kool Aide drinkers are not sipping but beginning to wonder what the hell is going on.

Texaslady - Thank you for the kind words. I'm new to this blog and have enjoyed reading a lot of postings. Very informative and your writing is great, Brad.

I have never ever talked to my son about my feelings and fears about what's going on in our country. How could I do that knowing he's going back to that hell hole? I honestly can't tell you what he knows and doesn't know. They're young, but they're not stupid, they have to know quite a bit.

He did tell me right after getting home, that what bothered them the most over there, was catching our news channels and hearing the polls about America's support for the war going downhill. That was 20 poll-points ago, pre-Downing Street Memos and a crapload of scary news since. Can't imagine their mindsets now.

I know he's never said anything to me about anger or resentment towards anyone, because he has to go back. I'm very proud of him. He's just wanting to get it over with, get home and get out. It's hell over there. He barely escaped death many times. He's donating an extra year of his life he didn't plan on. Stop Loss. He has a wife and two young children he wants to be with. He'll never get any of that schooling they told him about, will struggle with PTSD the rest of his life, and an extra year of hell to boot. I just don't think it's right so few carry the entire load. Some are on their 3rd and 4th trips over. Nothing is right about that. Did I mention how appreciative and proud of them all I am?

I also know they worked them 12 hours on and 12 hours off for WEEKS on end without a day off. I do know that - and that pissed me off. They write a lot about not having enough troops, but very few write about how they are overworked (on top of the stress) and how many deaths are caused by that. There was a group of 4 that were shot dead because they all fell asleep. I'm sure there have been many more because of that fact.

I know clueless people can't understand this, but I totally support my son and all our military for doing what they took an oath to do. Top military set aside, of course, they are so freaking tough and the best military ever. They are doing things we can't even start to imagine. It's not their fault they were sold out and a lot of us civilians are waking up finally. I'm sure all of them have hopes we may help end the madness, so they can all come home for good. We owe them to try.

Sorry, back to the voting machines and any hopes for ending this nightmare. All kinds of recent articles about them forcing the machines in tons of cities and states before the 06 elections. WTF can we do about it? Will this person coming out about it actually do any good, Brad? Will anyone listen? Seems they'll just wiggle out of it again. *heavy sigh* Sure could use some hope......

Somehow, I just can't believe HCOCDR is in Iraq. He never did say what his job is over there.

Kira - notice the time Commander HO writes- and note what Concerned Citizen said about the hours being worked by soldiers. I know what my guys say. But if he wants to pretend to be a soldier, ok, let him. He is the one that has to look himself in the eyes everyday.

Right on, Texas Lady. Most blogs that try to provide links from soldiers in Iraq do screen the comments by IP address location. They want to make sure they are posting legitimate comments. Here, there is no such screening ... only for a few rules made by Brad.

So --- I can't say for sure, but I agree with you, Texas Lady.