Law and General Disorder: ‘BradCast’ 6/8/2020

Guest: Longtime journalist, novelist Lucian K. Truscott IV on the uprising against Trump by his military leaders

Also: Callers ring in on why they decided to join the demonstrations across the country following the police killing of George Floyd...

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On today’s BradCast: Donald Trump is chastened by the Generals he once revered, and we open the lines to listeners who participated in the weekend’s demonstrations against the killing of George Floyd and police abuse everywhere. [Audio link to full show follow below.]

First up today, a quick note or two on elections Tuesday in Georgia and West Virginia, Joe Biden clinching the Democratic Presidential nomination, and the still-spiking spread of COVID-19 as many states reopen for business too early.

Next, we’re joined by LUCIAN K. TRUSCOTT IV, a West Point grad from a long line of military men, who has served as a journalist, novelist and screenwriter for some 50 years. Beginning in the 1970s at The Village Voice, he has covered stories from Watergate to the Stonewall uprising as well as wars in Lebanon, Iraq and Afghanistan. He is now a columnist at Salon where late last week, in a column headlined “We are witnessing the birth of a movement – and the downfall of a president” he covered what he described as the “extraordinary” pushback from current and former high-ranking military officials against Trump’s plan to unleash the U.S. military to “dominate” protesters demonstrating against the killing of Floyd in Minneapolis, police abuse everywhere, and for the principle that Black Lives Matter. “These generals are not politicians, but all their statements are as political as any I’ve ever seen by senior officers, retired or active duty,” he wrote. “It’s the equivalent of lining up howitzers on Pennsylvania Avenue and aiming at the White House.”

We discuss last week’s remarkable turning point moment — beginning with a stunning statement from Trump’s former Defense Secretary, General James Mattis and including the leaked memo written by Trump’s current Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley, as sent to the heads of all military branches — which Truscott also believes suggests that the military will decidedly not side with Trump if he tries to use the armed forces somehow to undermine this November’s never-more-critical Presidential election.

“I don’t think we have anything to worry about now,” says Truscott. “It’s really almost like drawing a line in the sand in front of Trump. They’re not going to take Trump’s side in anything like that. The way [the military leaders] have recoiled from what Trump did last Monday night [when he ordered the clearing of Lafayette Square across the street from the White House for a bizarre photo-op in front of the historic St. John’s Episcopal Church] is really all the evidence you need that these guys are standing up for the Constitution and not for President Donald Trump.”

“They’re shooting a shot over Trump’s bow and saying, ‘You better watch out what kind of orders you give.’ Because I don’t think they going to follow any un-American orders,” Truscott tells me. “I have to say, a couple of weeks and months ago, I was a little bit concerned about what the military would choose to do. But I’m not concerned at all anymore.”

We also discuss how the ongoing demonstrations following the killing of Floyd compare to those seen during the Civil Rights era, as well as his attempt — as the great-great-great-great grandson of Thomas Jefferson — to include the descendants of Sally Hemings in the Monticello Association’s annual reunions of those descended from the author of the Declaration of Independence and 3rd U.S. President. Hemings was a slave with whom Jefferson is said to have had six children after the death of his wife. Truscott first invited Hemings’ descendants to join the Monticello Association on the Oprah Winfrey Show in 1998. We discuss how that turned out in the ensuing years.

Finally, we open the phones to callers who took part in the massive demonstrations around the country over the weekend and in days previous. Why did they decide to march? What did they learn? Why did they decide to not march, in some cases, and how the current movement for equal rights and justice for all compares to similar mass demonstrations in past eras (by those callers who participated in some of those as well!)…

The BradCast with Brad Friedman 6/8/2020
Law and General Disorder: ‘BradCast’ 6/8/2020  |  Guest: Longtime journalist, novelist Lucian K. Truscott IV on the uprising against Trump by his military leaders  |  Also: Callers ring in on why they decided to join the demonstrations across the country following the police killing of George Floyd...   · · · · ·   Law and General Disorder: ‘BradCast’ 6/8/2020  |  Guest: Longtime journalist, novelist Lucian K. Truscott IV on the uprising against Trump by his military leaders  |  Also: Callers ring in on why they decided to join the demonstrations across the country following the police killing of George Floyd...
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