On today’s BradCast, first a rant about the nonsense that is the Benghazi “investigation”, and then on to a real investigation concerning an anti-fracking initiative on the ballot in Mahoning County, OH, questions about the results reported by the county’s electronic tabulators, and an election official or two who are caught on tape going kinda nuts when asked about it.
To talk about our latest example of “Election Officials Behaving Badly”, I’m joined on today’s show by Dr. Ray Beiersdorfer, the voter who asked a simple question at a recent Mahoning County, Ohio Board of Elections meeting, before the officials accused him of accusing them of a crime in response!
And, since the Mahoning County election officials — the ones caught on tape responding so outrageously to Beiersdorfer’s reasonable request for a hand-count — failed to reply to our multiple requests to join us on the show, we are joined instead by Virginia Martin of the Columbia County, NY Board of Elections to comment on all of this. (Our invitation remains open to Mahoning County election officials David Betras (D) and Mark Munroe (R) if they’d like to respond to today’s program.)
Beiersdorfer is a geology professor, fracking expert and supporter of the ProtectYoungstown.org anti-fracking initiative. As you’ll here, at the meeting of the Elections Board, he politely asked for a hand-count of paper ballots regarding the ballot initiative, after a post-election poll appeared to offer contradictory results to those reported by the unverified computer optical-scan tabulation systems used in the county. (An electronic tabulation system, I’ll note, which has failed in election after election elsewhere.) In response, Betras freaks out and charges that Beiersdorfer has accused him of “rigging an election”.
“You just basically accused this board of elections of election fraud!,” Betras, a Democratic, snaps in outraged response, as caught on tape. “I find it highly offensive you’d accuse me of a crime!” His fellow election commissioner, Munroe, a Republican, takes similar offense.
All of that, simply because a voter wished to oversee the results of an election to confirm that computer-reported results were accurate — in a town with a history of election problems and where some of the same election officials reportedly spent some $30,000 of tax-payer money in a failed effort to keep the initiative off the ballot in the first place (before being overruled by the state Supreme Court.)
“I certainly wasn’t accusing anyone of a crime,” Beiersdorfer tells me today (and as the tape confirms). “I just pointed out the discrepancy and I asked for a public, open, transparent hand-count of the ballots. I was a little bit surprised at how he reacted to that — and basically attacked me.”
Unfortunately, it’s not an isolated case. We’ve seen similar responses from election officials elsewhere. Martin, the Democratic co-chair of the Columbia County, NY Board of Elections — one of the few counties in the nation to publicly hand-count every paper ballot before certifying any election (my recent interview with Martin and her Republican co-chair on that specific topic is here) — explains on today’s show: “We election officials often find ourselves in the crosshairs. There’s always somebody in the public who’s not happy about something that’s transpired at the Board of Elections. There’s a winner and there’s a loser, so we often are in a position of having to defend ourselves. I can understand why they would be very sensitive.”
But, she adds, that type of concern simply doesn’t come up in her county, given that the public is invited to oversee the hand-count of paper ballots for every election. As an election official, she insists on hand-counts, she says, because: “I wasn’t comfortable with trusting what the computer said, because I know computers can make mistakes. I know that computers can be programmed incorrectly — inadvertently. I also know they can be manipulated, they can be tampered with. I personally can’t know how a computer counts anything, because I don’t get to see that. So how am I going to know that the result is correct?”
I think it’s a fascinating show today — as this is a problem that occurs more and more, as election officials and electronic voting and tabulation systems make it far more difficult for the citizenry to oversee their own elections — but you’ll be the judge. Give it a listen below!…
[You can watch the complete, exclusive Mahoning County, OH video from which we played audio clips today, here. And the full video of Pima County, AZ Election Supervisor Brad Nelson caught on tape similarly freaking out back 2007, which we played a bit of as well today, can be seen here.]
The election official doth-protest-too-much.
That’s what I think.
Just because the machines might not be working, doesn’t make you guilty, so why react so strongly? Just count the votes!
Might be a good time to reconsider open source software for voting machines (What We Know About the Computer Formulas Making Decisions in Your Life).