Not fair to drop these kinds of smuggly drop these types of inuendos and hints...

You have to tell Shannyn Moore that if this is what she really believes, she is gonna have to say more.

"You have to tell Shannyn Moore that if this is what she really believes, she is gonna have to say more."

She will.

She was almost up to the "precious bodily fluids" part, but she ran out of time.

Huh? Where is your proof that her family didn't know until they were standing there w/ her making the announcement?? That doesn't make any sense. Wouldn't they show some shock on their faces??

Thats exactly what i said on my blog within .5 minbutes of the news breaking lol its so obvious...big scandal on the way and Sarah wants to stay in control too late baby!

Only a group of whacked out hate filled left
wing nuts would make up stories about " damage control" & "iceberg scandals about to break".

No different than the drunken sod on the corner of Hollywood & Vine rambling about the mothership about to land.

Time to destroy Romney!

Juliana - the "drunken sod" you are referring to is that AWOL abusive alcoholic/cocaine addict stuffin' socks into his crotch and having someone fly his drunken @ss onto an aircraft carrier and proclaiming "Mission Accomplished", right?

WTF? Is Shannyn Moore trying to be famous by making things up?. Sounds like a boatload of crap. The left has hit the panic button. BIG TIME.

"Panic"? Think again about whose hitting that button, Caren.

LOL caren!

repug "family values" folks are fallin' at a rate of at least one a week lately and now it is being demonstrated that the public option will actually SAVE money...

And you want to talk crap about dems hittin' the PANIC BUTTON while repug pundit's heads are exploding and their political strategists are sh#ttin' their pants!

It is funny how the latest news out of AK has brought out trolls to ALL of the sites that tend to support dems.

It isn't the folks on the LEFT that are hittin' the panic button, baby - the latest is actually on the other side - palin.

Do ya suppose she was boofin' "first dude's" business partner again?

What with Obama's crappy socialist plans slowly unraveling, much like his ratings, I'd say his gang of Chicago thugs are the ones panicking.

I've always suspected that she's had an abortion. It's either that or the house they built using tax payer money.

Silly, Patrick. While there's plenty to hit Obama on, you seem to be in utter denial about the problems your party faces, and their failure in effectively taking on Obama and the Dems on any of the stuff they *should* be taking them on for.

Frankly, if you guys were doing your job, they *should* be panicking, but they certaintly aren't. No matter what you wingnuts keep telling each other. Hint: That whole "socialist" thing is so 2008. Didn't work then. Won't likely be working now or in '10 or even in '12. But feel free to keep missing the point and banging on it!

I say Pig Lips on her way to School of the Americas to do some heavy duty learning about presidenting....

if the right isn't panicking by now, they should be!
is it kind of unfair to say the other show is gonna drop in a week or so if you call yourself a journalist unless you have proof and then you should be obligated to getting it out there.
however if shannyn is not a journalist she can speculate just like the rest of us.

And, seriously, Patrick, Obama has proven his vampire capitalist street creds beyond a shadow of a doubt. Get with the program.

Is this what you liberal fascists do? Try and find someone else to destroy? Its no longer politics, its personal destruction. You've learned well at the foot of the Clinton's evidently.

Your esteemed Leader The Kenyan is likely done trying to force yet another threat out of politics, that's fine. Someone will step up and beat his ass down in '12 because he was a one termer to begin with. His grand remake of America into a socialist state with high unemployment and Soviet programs won't have the middle America support he once had. He's at -2 right now and falling. He's worse than Carter ever was.

We're witnessing a huge amound of hand wringing from the left upon hearing this announcement from Governor Palin. If she wasn't such a threat, why waste such a huge amount of hot air expelling obcenities and insults in her direction? You surely don't see libtards hurling expletives at John Edwards. The Obamabots see their 'Change' rapidly vanishing. Of course, that's what you get when you vote for a slogan.

Per Governor Palin, "ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW"

YOU BETCHA!

Wow. I think Palin could have gotten her point across in about 3,000 less words. What exactly was all that about? "wasting millions of dollars" "working outside the government"? Is she getting a gig on The View? Watching her rambling excuses with my experience reading people, she was tap dancing. Something else is going on. And that part about 'I asked my children if they want me to do something outside of government to help little children everywhere', they said YES! That was so ridiculously unnatural. Can't wait for the truth about this. You don't just abandon your Governorship like that.... regardless of your ambitions. No way.

Repub damage control anyone? What are we doing with several pro-Palin sounding posters at Bradblog? Have the trolls spread our to help poor Sarah all over the blogasphere.
At least the media might get off Michael Jackson for awhile...

shw

Why on earth would Democrats be wringing their hands over this? Well, I guess some would be upset because they know that 2012 will no longer be the year we can expect the tragicomedy known as Palin's presidential run; there's no way she can run now.

Nice blog, Brad. Sorry about your commenters though. Yow.

#18

L O fukin L, That was he larry us

Having had up close and personal experience with the AK GOP from 80 to 94, the fact that so many people all over the media immediately began speculating on the other shoe is quite rational.

Sarah was the perfect example of the person who appeared to be what they wanted/needed (not just physically - that was gravy).

From my perspective the GOP got what was coming to them. The fervor to elect people who toe their line, repeating the policy and platform got them the ones who could only parrot, not explain how to apply it since they don't understand the abstract.

The success that they had with it warped their perception, it never occurred to them that a state would actually elect someone and continue to highly approve of her, who was nothing more than a capable sports anchor with ambition and overconfidence in her ability. That she could function as she did in the office and not have a brighter than average bulb. Blind to the fact that Alaska politics is virtually straight GOP. If the oil industry says jump, they ask how high while going up.

My guess on the shoe would include their house that was built by workers from the company that built Wasilla's budget breaking sports complex. Very close to the Palin's lakefront house, at the same time the complex was under construction. Hey, Uncle Ted (Stevens) got his remodeled by VECO. It must be OK. This is only a guess. Sarah has proven herself to be unpredictable. Not a good trait for governors, VPs or POTUS.

Agent 99 the only thing Obama has proven at this point it that his administration is the embodiment of the amateur hour. We will be paying for his myopic vision for years.

Even Fox News aired some speculation about Palin's motives concerning her resignation.

It is very possible that an upcoming scandal could be breaking. It is also possible that Palin is just being herself and demonstrating her lack of political professionalism and sense of political responsibility.

If the voters elect you to do a job, you should finish your term if humanly possible. Unless faced with serious scandal or health issues, it is not very responsible to walk away from your duties.

There is no 'scandal'. Once again, more panic buttons being pressed by the left. Nothing to see here, move along.

Oh, please please please let there be more to this!

And by my estimation, I am reasonably sure there will be. No one in the political world gives up their position for no reason. If she was willing to go through all the B.S. thrown at her about her out of wedlock grandson from her high-school age daughter when spouting her "family values", and all the other hypocritical stuff she was a part of. Why would she bow out now and give up the little bit of ability she has to protect herself with the power of her office?

I'm bettin' there is more to this story, and it is going to be gooood and juicy. The question is; Will the mainstream media run with it like like a Micheal Jackson child molestation charge, or more the Sibel Edmonds information? For some reason, I suspect the latter.

My money is on disclosure that Trig is her daughter's. Unlike Obama, Trig's birth certificate has never been disclosed let alone a picture of her holding the baby in the hospital. She lied. Her credibility is even more shot.

Heh. Wild speculation aside, it's amusing to see the excuses flying for Whatever Sarah's Done Now. On cue, we even get the muttered hints that it's all Obama's doing.

Nope. Palin, who has yet again hit the panic button, owns this one. Where will her defenders be when this resignation, like all the others, is revealed to coincide with yet another tawdry scandal? When will they admit that she's just another entitled conservative unequipped to do the freakin' job?

wow...

don't even know where to start... but, how about with 'quitting' because she's taking so much 'heat' from AK legislators.

a) what happened to the Palin that explained how to tell the difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom, lipstick" ??

b) what happened to the palin that admonished the Obama camp during the campaign to "get out of the race if they couldn't stand the heat in the kitchen" ??

NO ONE voluntarily walks away from a governorship for NO GOOD REASON(S) [which none of her's, scatter-brained as they were, are] so...

i'm leaning towards the 'iceberg' (MUCH more below the surface) argument. afterall, it was just a week ago hen we were told DEFINITELY by Gov Sanfor's staff that he 'just needed some alone time to recoup and/or work on his book while hiking the Appalachian Trail, right?

Let's 'talk' again in a week.

Stop referring to our democratically elected American-born president as "The Kenyan". It's stupid and immature.

one more 'thing'...

that leads me to believe there's another (Neiman Marcus Italian pump more than likely) 'shoe' to drop:

if Caribou Barbie learned ANYTHING on the campaign trail with the whoremonger McCain it was to 'get out in front' of impending bad news. like his proactive rollout of Cindy's STEALING prescription drugs from the doctors group who she was working with as the FBI was about to arrest her. (See his hometown newspaper - Arizona Republic for the low [and i do mean LOW] down on that junkie beer heiress trophy wife (years ago) of his.

i repeat, let's 'meet' again in a week and see what's 'cookin'.

The right is in complete disarray. Republicans cheer about Obama's "plummeting" popularity while 7 of the 10 leading economic indicators are up this month. Cap and Trade will prove to be exactly what was advertised
aka a jobs bill and the democrats will be as unstoppable as they were before the civil rights era. James Carville is right the left will dominate for the next forty years. Get used to the idea of universal health care because it's coming, and once it's here and everyone sees what a load of crap all of the right wing fearmongering for the last 40 years has been you'll have to wait for this entire generation to die off in order to elect a county coroner. The right's best bet at this point is to run Mccain again in 2012.

I think She is going to be the next Al Gore, only in reverse. As in Drill baby drill.....

I hope that Palin will survive, and continue to stymie both the right and the left, especially the misogynists, and fanatics, of any political persuassion.

I take great delight in the fact that she scares the hell out so many elite, entitlement prone politicians, and their supporters, on both sides.

She is the one bright light in all of the current muck, doom, and murkiness. She quite wryly gladdens this old eccentric, socially liberal, fiscally conservative Dem.'s heart.

I am so tired of the status quo, corporate owned, "we know it all", politicians from both (or is there just one, mirrored?) parties.

I see no hope, nor change from either; so Palin at least provides a bit of realism to an otherwise stale, stagnant, screw us all, political landscape.

I wish her great success in whatever comes after, and truly hope she continues to perplex, and wreak havoc unto all!

WOW, there are alot of trolls here today. Great job Brad, this is the iceberg the Alaskan blogs have been talking about. We knew about the suspicious construction of her house, I don't know why the story was dropped by the MSM. Palin has alot of skeletons in her closet and I thought her fake pregnancy would be exposed but this makes much more sense.
She had to resign before this story broke, she cannot coverup a federal investigation only her own ethics violations that were dismissed by people she appointed.Her rambling, incoherent speech must have meant that she found out the hammer was going to drop yesterday or within the past few days.
I looked at a pro-Palin blog and they are calling her move 'brilliant' setting up her run for 2012. HA! and they talked about Obama voters drinking KoolAid??

Sorry, my comment should have read: "far-right and far-left", rather than simply left and right.

I actually have no problem with true "left and right". They actually have a center, where one ends and the other begins. At least, creating the possibilty, however far-fetched, that perhaps someday politicians (prompted by some sort of endemic outbreak of sanity) might try to govern, as nearly as possible, for all of us (the people) rather than special interests.

I will not, however, hold my breath.

The story about the Palin house was floating around during the general election campaign.

Read about the Palin house and Sports complex here:
http://www.dailykos.com/...0/11/111018/34/47/627460

Sheesh. Evidently we've got the Britney Spears of politics thing going for us here.

Sometimes I'm just sure a bread truck mowed me down and I'm really in a coma somewhere....

It just looks like a lot of trolls. Actually it's 8 different handles and Caren posting in multiples, out of 38 posts. And most of them commenting early because they're paid to troll lots and lots of sites. So many liberal blogs, so little time for paid republican flacks.

does anybody know what the hell she is talking about?

Very good, Brad. Let's hope it's true so that Alaskan taxpayers can see how they've been ripped off over the years. But if you are wrong. ... ut oh!

Is THIS the iceberg? According ALASKA REPORT, there are three (count ‘em…THREE) ethics complaints against Governor Sarah Palin coming down the pike.

Mention is also made of a “long simmering embezzlement/IRS scandal” that is still being looked at by the feds.

Embezzlement from this trust may be involved. Because this is being investigated by IRS and FBI, palin is powerless to use her office to block the probe, hence she's goin' down and bailed out early.

Is it possible that the scandal that may be about to break is that trig is not her baby?

I never put a whole lot of stock in that rumor but the events surrounding the birth have always struck me as odd.

@ caren,

About those dead fish going with the flow, trust me, Palin should know as that is her next route - flowing with the rest of the fallen rethuglicans.

Apparently, Palin could not focus on Alaska's real problems...

Drop out rate: Double US average
http://www.adn.com/education/story/590870.html

M eth Capital of America
http://andrewsullivan.th.../09/wasilla-the-met.html

Heating Oil Prices
http://www.adn.com/news/.../rural/story/643556.html

Yes, it was all Obama's fault that the Palins stole from taxpayers to build their house. It must have been the socialists that made them do it. I bet they worked with the seceret muslims to take down this good christian family.

Yep, The Republicans are the poor victims, they never do anything wrong.

It's time to be "Strong on Crime" and send the Palins to jail for a long time, right?

Only thing missing today was the '4 more years' double peace sign...

HERE'S WHAT'S ABOUT TO BREAK (NOTE THE DATE JUNE 30):

Published: March 4th, 2009 09:25 PM
Last Modified: March 4th, 2009 09:26 PM
Former Veco chief executive Bill Allen and a Veco vice president, Rick Smith, won't have to worry about prison again until at least June 30, when federal prosecutors will present another status report on their cooperation in the long-running FBI investigation.
U.S. District Judge John Sedwick accepted the most recent status report, filed under seal Tuesday by prosecutors from the U.S. Attorney's office in Anchorage. He agreed to allow the filing in secret "because it relates to on-going investigations," he wrote in an order.
Sedwick's order was the fifth time he has delayed sentencing and asked for status reports since the two men pleaded guilty in May 2007 to corrupting Alaska legislators. Their trial testimony has since led to guilty verdicts against two legislators and former U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens.
Federal guidelines entitle Allen and Smith to shorter sentences if they continue to cooperate until they are no longer needed. The latest delay is the strongest indication yet that the government is still pursuing its investigation despite setbacks following the Stevens conviction, including an FBI agent who claimed another agent and prosecutors violated Justice Department policy and may have broken the law.
The four-month delay before the next status report is substantially shorter than the previous delay, which was seven months. Assistant U.S. Attorney Joe Bottini said there was nothing significant about the disparity other than the belief of prosecutors that the judge preferred a shorter period. Two earlier delays were three months each, and a third was sixth months.

Long time no talk, Brad. Great work.

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
... Agent 99 said on 7/3/2009 @ 3:52 pm PT..."I say Pig Lips on her way to School of the Americas to do some heavy duty learning about presidenting...." --- Funny you should say that. There was a stretch in her ramblings where she was talking about the Constitution and a new way of leading and I got this creepy feeling that she was about to announce that the Joint Chiefs of Staff had chosen her to be the figurehead for a coup. Except that the military seems to be getting everything it wants already and it's hard to believe anyone would put someone who sounds like a speedfreak on a weeklong jag in front of a microphone.

10/13/08: Massive Palin Scandal Brewing « roger hollander
http://rogerhollander.wo...e-palin-scandal-brewing/

by the way, scandal or not, she is quitter, quit colleges, quit energy board job she didn't like, used corruption excuse and got lucky with corruption scandal that launched her into governor office.

Whats with all the trolls on Palin, why is it so necessary to get off this topic? like it would work...

Palin manic-ness and unpreparedness is THE indication there is something else going on then just looking for better career pastures, getting out of spotlight. She was wicked short of breath, not normal for some in good shape. She is freaking out, there has to be some stuff really scaring her, and I want to guess scaring her beyond just her political career, like a family thing or criminal/jail thing. She must have had an intelligent advisor give her a come-to-Jesus talk to explain to her how much trouble she is in. Also, the sloppy speech says her political cred is the least of her worries right now.

I can see another RepubliKan meltdown from my doorstep.

There will be no way to put lipstick on this Pig that's coming down the pike. This investigation, evidently, has been ongoing for at least 9 months. This devious, calculating and now incompetent woman does nothing but play in the weeds with trivial nonsense so you KNOW that her "quitting" has everything to do wit quid pro quo. Ironically, (and you see this with flagrant criminals often) she chooses to stand and "show off" her quid pro quo in an attempt to deflect the ovious assumption that if she had a brain in her head, the last thing she would do would be to stage something as public as this at a potential "crime scene". That's precisely WHY she chose this location....that and the birds cuckooing behind her.

Is it called foreshadowing (cuckoo) or just appropriate sound effects?

The SS Palin will be sunk for a very long time by the forthcoming Iceberg Scandal. Stay tuned......

This delusional dummy called Sarah Palin will be going to prison for a long time. I say they give her life. This is not the end of the Palin meltdown...

So if she is indicted and found guilty, all you Repubs are going to apologize for your mistake and the name calling, right?

Or are you not that mature.

WTF - the feds are closing in on the repugs Godiva and trolls here want to proclaim that dems are hitting the "panic button"!

GOP needs to send out smarter trolls - this nonsense is being posted all over the liberal/progressive bloggosphere in massive quantities, so it's just not a few disconnected wackos that love abuse.

"Palintology: Only dead fish go with the flow and you're rght now looking at my quid pro quo...."

This woman is a national joke.

one national celebrity freakshow ends, another rises to accept the throne. i hope this is the beginning of a decades long reality show watching this looney tweaker unravel every so often on tv.

Palin 2012: Campaign Motto - Winners NEVER quit and Quitters NEVER win.

Take your $250,000 illegal wardrobe and hit the road Jack.

I don't know about a possible indictment - it seems to be a stretch - but it all seems rather odd. This lady is a trainwreck and the best thing for the Republicans is to see her gone. Remember, about half the Republicans want her to run and all the Democrats do.

Please don't bother responding to trolls, they are just sent to gum things up and distract. Man, tho, what a waste of money and peoples time, do they really think trolling lefty sites is going to change anyones mind or muddy the issue. Might help a bit swaying some opinion of moderates on general topics like health care or such, but really, speculation about Palin's motives, whats the about. And if this happened as quickly as it appears it, how to the rally all these trolls so quickly on a holiday weekend? Would really like to know what they are doing behind the curtain

When I first heard of her resignation, I must admit that my first thought was that maybe some old "Beaver Hunt" photos surfaced, but the corruption thing sounds more plasuible.

#48: The timing would be perfect for this next report by federal prosecutors with just enough time for her to write this speech and plan the resignation. No doubt then that this report about the Veco execs 'singing' in exchange for shorter sentencing has everything to do with today' latest chapter in the Palin's Circus.

#18, you said we learned at the feet of Clinton, do you mean how the Republicans spent over a year and millions of tax dollars investigating a BJ, and when he tried to bomb Bin Laden in Afganistan you said he was "wagging the dog" and called it war crimes?

And then when you used that BJ to get Bush in office, you let big businesses screw the American Public for money all while they were cutting the social programs you could have used to get an education?

Is that what you were refering to? The way the republican party uses bullshit like immigration to keep the ignorant and bigoted Americans riled up and voting for them? Is that what you meant?

Because that is what I learned before I decided that the GOP trying to kill America and switched parties.

Republicans and conservatives have had lots of fun glibly dismissing us as "libs." I think its time we coined a new term for them "cons" as in "convicts." Conservatives are "cons" because its obvious if they aren't in legal or some kind of "family values" trouble all you have to do is wait awhile and the "cons" never disappoint!

I guess we should all just be thankful this scandal, so far, doesn't involve sex in dirty diapers, gay meth prostitutes, snuff films, child sex or other sick Republican shit. And before any Republicans start moaning and bitching that Democrats "do it, too." Yea, maybe so, but its the HYPOCRISY and the face Republicans NEVER seen to lose their jobs or experience the same consequences when it occurs to them versus Democratic politicians. When is the last time a sex scandal has hit a "con" and he got impeached or lost his job over it? Senator "dirty diapers" Vitter? Nope... Senator "wide stance" Larry Craig... another nope...

Family Values is just a hypocritical way for them to troll for votes from those who are scared to death if they don't vote Republican then someone might think they are the perverts they secretly are! One finger pointing out, and FOUR pointing back at themselves!

Bravo, Bradblog.

We can't wait to see how this bizarre "iceberg" story line develops!

You "big city" people kill me. Wasilla is a SMALL town. You can't help but hire people you may already know and chances are, you just might have even gone to elementary school with them. Oooh! Big scandal! And to those doubting that Mr. Palin might have actually done a lot of work on his own house, you clearly underestimate "small town" people. I know plenty of people who've built their own houses and have a lot of other irons in the fire at the same time. That's just the kind of people we are. Of course, if any of this turns out to be true, you gotta hand it to good ol' Sarah for fooling all the idiots out there all this time. Go Sarah! LOL!

omg...after watching this speech, all i can ask is, "is she on drugs?" scary stuff.

can we vote for alaska to secede?

This is all speculation & it is a but of B.S. Libs are doing anything they can to make this out to be a scandal!

Amid all the speculation, what strikes me as the most obvious and most certain lie taking place is the assertion that this has been in the works for any significant length of time at all. Anderson Cooper just asked her long time spokesperson by telephone whether this has been in the works for a while, as Palin stated. She replied yes. Anderson then followed up (not verbatim). 'Why are you in New York if this has been planned for a while, and not with her in Alaska , where the announcement was made ?? The spokesperson answered that she had a Blackberry and 'technology is beautiful'!!!!! Are you kidding me? People @ 'press conference' are saying it was painfully obvious that it had been thrown together mere hours before it took place. It appears no prominent Alaska brass or Governor brass knew anything till perhaps Wednesday. This is so obviously a severely panicked bail !!!

So that's the palin mansion? no wonder her teen daughter is able to have unprotected sex anytime shw wants (which, evidently is quite often). The place is huge!

That is one ugly house! I hope they didn't spend any of their own money on it.

#65 you are spot on!

So, what -gate should this scandal be named? Wasillasportscomplexgate is surely too long. Wasillagate? Hilbillygate?

Power corrupts, both for Dems and Repubs. I don't care for the woman, but based on her parochial backround, I can see where a modicum of power would easily corrupt any sense of right and wrong.

failed bridge and gas line projects mistreating employees and
she cant be queen of pork and more and claim to be 2012 pres material for tax cut far right gop!
2009 State 2009 Pork Population Pork/Capita 2008
Rank Rank
1 Alaska $221,222,875 686,293 $322.34 1

Pork Per Capita by State
(National Average: $29.60 Per Person)

NO OTHER SCANDAL NECESSARY.

She can see Putin rearing his head from those windows....

Wow what a bunch of made up fantasies...

The Democrats can sue for jacket wearing at the expense of the taxpayers and have no conscience about it. Shameful.

Remember that based on the public record, Palin is a wildly unethical public official, guilty at a minimum of numerous instances of abusing her authority as governor? [--Josh Marshall, TPM]

But you can't NAME ONE can you yOU PUKE!

[ed note: Form edited for clarity. Since you seem to be addressing Josh, or Brad, you are not breaking the rule against attacking your fellow commenters, but you should try to be clear about it. I mean, don't hold back.... --99]

Jes:

Wasilla is small town but main supllier in this case is big company all over Alaska, not necessarily carpenter next door. The local guys that did not get contract complained from begineer about unfairness of bidding process and corruption, long before Palin was gov or vp canidate. If Todd built this with his school buddies that have been taking turns building eachother houses, additions, I am sure they will be able to attest to that. However, his neighbors, likely ones to pitch in at some point in a small town are the ones saying Todd Palin never lifted a finger.

You likely a moral person who has worked hard for everything you have and helped out your community and you are conservative, but don't make the mistake that all conservatives from a small town are like you. Bet you know conservatives from your town who are not moral, not good neighbors. I would never be surprised to see Dem doing somethign completely against what I would do, I know some of them are bad and do bad things...like congressman with 400k cash in his freezer, or like John Edwards or Clinton cheating. I don't think Repubs are just making those things up. I haven't cheated, I haven't stolen money/taken bribes, but I can accept these dems have done these things. I don't defend their actions and say they are victims of media. Bad is bad, any party. If there is ample evidence house was stolen and no counter evidence it was not, you have to accepts facts.

I bet Shannon has about as much credibility as Jason Leopold. You do remember "Karl Rove will be indicted in 24 hours", don't you? These ethics charges have been getting shot down in flames again and again. You did notice that, didn't you.

Sad to see her go, but when the loony left is even photo-shopping gross pictures of Trig, it gets pretty frustrating.

Prediction: Indictment between July 6 and 10, following the Independence Day holiday weekend. I suspect that she or her attorneys became privy to information that a federal complaint is being prepared. She doesn't want to be caught like Blagojevich in Illinois, dragged off in cuffs at the crack of dawn by the feds while she's still the Gov. Then she'd have to refuse to resign lest it be construed as an admission of guilt by the public. That would lead to impeachment proceedings in Alaska - a sorry repeat of the comedy in Illinois. She can't be wasting money on defending herself against impeachment. She's going to need all her cash for her federal defense - or to negotiate some sort of plea agreement to reduce her time in the slammer.

I can hear rightwingnuts head explosions from every direction. What music to my ears.
A good embezzlement case sure is a good distraction from the pedofilic, drug abuse, gay, sexual abuse, tryist activities of the past few years. Let the right wing keep expanding their movement. I love it!

I was struck by the plane in the background - looked to me like the Palins were ready to take a trip "Sound of Music" style. I am especially sad for the children, why are they all standing there? Sure, keep them out of the media, Sarah.
Is it me or is she using them as shields to keep the nasty liberals off of her ?

And of course, "we need more Trigs, not less..." wow that sums Sarah up for me. Who needs pre natal care anyway ? As a pregnant woman who was forced to drive to a hospital 2 hours away when my water broke prematureley, I can assure you Sarah, I was not making speeches or socializing. I was worried sick that I would lose my baby. That's what I call Pro Life.

"Sad to see her go, but when the loony left is even photo-shopping gross pictures of Trig, it gets pretty frustrating."

PuLLEAZE. The "loony" right has hung effigies of Obama (not to mention the people who've been arrested for attempting to kill him) but he hasn't stepped down.

Maybe she wasn't prepared to put on her big-girl britches, but I reckon something bigger is going down.

There sure is a lot of speculation and name calling going on. Good grief people! However, one thing cannot be denied,

If elected, she will not serve. ..., A year and a half to go?

If she is as pure as the driven snow, as some writers here would like to believe, then quitting now just seems really irresponsible.

This is just Rahm Emanuel taking a page from the Karl Rove playbook. Remember Alabama Governor Don Siegelman? Well, guess who runs the Justice Department now?

It's going to be a long 3 years for Republican politicians. Better get your ducks in a row.

Being a conservative Republican, I was first thrilled when McCain announced Palin as his VP choice. However, the more I saw of Sarah I started to really question her qualifications. I had this gut feeling that the woman was hiding something. Since the election, I have been following her press releases and activities. During the past several months, she has been looking thinner and gaunt and I have wondered if she was ill or having some real issues. There is something behind her resignation. Good job, Brad.

Revised prediction to #83 - set that date for indictment back to July 26 or thereafter, the Palin said she'll resign. The feds laid their cards on the table and have allowed her and her attorneys three weeks to agree on what she'll plead to in the indictment, in the hopes of gaining some leniency in sentencing.

Oh my god. You are actually serious..this..this isnt a bit. You arent doin some kind of gag. Wow. That is incredibly sad, man. Brad. dude. c'mon man?!! what is wrong with you? Iceberg scandal? really? realllly? ok. Oh dear lord..wont you make ALL of them just go away. please? And just let me say..it is truly impressive the way..ya know..you are gettin all over the wee retarded kid. that ..that is just awesome, buddy. iceberg scandal.wow...faaaaarg!

[ed note: Comment deleted. Please no personal attacks on other commenters. I'm sure you can make your point another way. --99]

The glib vitriol present is but the dumbest 52% who voted for the Half-Kenyan ( read his alleged "books", fools ). Sarah will tear you all a collective new one. Now, about the revised property line separating Obama's free Chicago digs from the free lot next door purchased by the Thuggery......take a collective red, y'all.

Jess Evans @ 8:43pm: You can't explain away nepotism, graft and influence peddling, or the possibility thereof, as if they are normal practices in small towns. That's just incredibly lame. Get off it.

Sarah Palin ran the Wasilla city budget from a surplus to a $20 million debt in only 2 terms. That's a lot of deficit spending for a city that had fewer than 7,000 people when Palin was mayor. She started a lot of projects and awarded many contracts. If they weren't on the level and impartially tendered, she has a lot to answer for.

Perhaps the most legally thorny was Bain Capital's 1989 purchase of Damon Corp., a Needham medical testing firm that later pleaded guilty to defrauding the federal government of $25 million and paid a record $119 million fine.

Romney sat on Damon's board. During Romney's tenure, Damon executives submitted bills to the government for millions of unnecessary blood tests. Romney and other board members were never implicated.

Palin, like so many here in Alaska, does not know the meaning of conflict of interest.
Palin did not serve our state well, and we deserve better.
Maybe she resigned because she needs to earn her own bribe money - I will miss her $3000 pay-off this fall.
It came in handy last year.

Stop referring to our democratically elected American-born president as "The Kenyan". It's stupid and immature.

It is immature. Feel free to tell your buddies that calling Republicans "Repugs" means you also don't win the trophy for maturity.

Sarah Palin is going to do missionary work in a country called Africa.

I will bet she is getting out ahead of federal investigators who have found Alaska to be out of compliance with federal regulations on more than one federally funded program. The fit will soon hit the shan.

i did not vote for mccain/palin. i am ashamed of america for what they did to palin's family,especially her 14 year old daughter and down syndrome son trig. if she is indicted on some charge i will still be ashamed of america for what they [we]did to her kids. and so should you.

Now that I've listened to Palin's resignation speech in light of the Iceberg situation/scandal, it makes perfect sense. She rambled on and on about waste...Probably a reference to all the Federal investigations. Wow...

Mr. Schmuckley - You know diddley about A. Small (Alaska) town life, and/orB. Construction. One needs a plumber, an electrician, a framer and a couple of other subs (as in "sub contractor"). There are very few of each in any given locale - fewer good ones - and fewer yet who are not otherwise engaged. An Alaskan small town is far more transparent than, say, Hyde Park, Chicago.

You're right David, he's not a Kenyan, he's Indonesian by injection.

-Oh, is that uncool? How about we just take a pool on which of the Commander in Chimp's daughters will be punished with a baby first? Oh wait, we can't say that anymore not that Chimpy McBusHitler is gone? Damn, I suck, talking about a politicians kids and all.

Why did Pig Lips pick my movie night?

She could have waited for the fireworks to be going off behind her tomorrow night. A true birthday present for America... but, nooooooo... gotta pick my movie night....

I posted this at Kos last October. I'm stunned an investigation actually happened!

http://www.dailykos.com/...uilt-Sarah-Palins-House-

Look on the bright side.

At least one member of the Palin family has learned to pull out early.

bwaaaahaaaa. She resigned.
How's that for Country First!
I'm looking forward to July 26th. The day after she hands over the keys to Alaska. Indictment?

Or, she's gonna be Fox News' next Hostess with the Most-est.

I see this wrapped in Money. Money that was funneled or Money to be made. The Repugs way. Money, Money, Money. It's all about the Money.

re: 89

If I were being investigated by an agency I finally had no way of blocking, I might drop several pounds as well.

Scandals aren't the only think that she-devil's hiding. The bitch is packing heat and I'm not talkin' shotguns. McCain & MILF. Well, you sad, sorry bastards the M is for MAN and you can jerk off to that image, with a thumb up your ass while Mr. Obama sets up the socialist gulag. I'll be damned if I'll be stuck in another tiger cage.

What a nightmare and what is wrong with this new crop of know-nothing, stupid Rebublican'ts who can't even keep a piss-and scandal quenched like a 'roid in a Tucks medicated pad.

Plus, who told her she should have a damn press conference rambling like a coked-up prom queen. It's like last fall all over again.

Governors do not resign just for the heck of it. There's usually only two reasons; pursuit of higher office or scandal.

The next Presidential election is still, uhm, 2 1/2 years away. Her term would have ended in 2010. This would have left plenty of time for her to "prepare" for another Presidential run.

Uh oh.

Lisa said (#107):

Or, she's gonna be Fox News' next Hostess with the Most-est.

I see this wrapped in Money. Money that was funneled or Money to be made. The Repugs way. Money, Money, Money. It's all about the Money.

I think you're right. If she's not in legal trouble, she will be heading to Fox News. They are probably falling all over themselves to negotiate a deal with her.

Funny how the fact that Wasilla didn't own the ground that the Sports Complex was built on never became an issue now or during the campaign? How did everyone miss this?

Regardless of all the posturing on all sides of the political aisles, can anyone deny that Palin is a nut?

I am a republican, have been for 25 years. And I have no problem calling a spade a spade. Palin is a nut. If she is found to have incurred ethics violations, what is so hard about accepting the fact that she needs to pay the price, like anyone?

Palin, by resigning as Governor of Alaska, has made a smart, calculated move; if indicted, she will have the ability to pay for a top law team.

Currently she is high demand around the nation as a speaker - which can cull in a tidy profit. Those moneys are currently capped by being a Governor - not so, by being just a citizen.

"One Opinion"....Perfectly said! I wish her success in keeping the politcal arena interesting for years to come.

I have a simple question about simple logic. Why would "federal investigators" give a rats ass about sports complex building materials being used for the governor's home?

I'm going on the assumption that neither the Wasilla Sports complex or the governor's home are federal buildings, or federally funded, therefore federal investigators would not have jurisdiction.

Isn't there enough real stuff wrong with her without making up stuff?

Maybe someone told her Vanity Fair said people on the street in Alaska think she's a narcissist, she thought she was betrayed, so now she'll go out and be a fundraiser or pundit or something.

You know, any job where she can be a princess, and not have to do pesky interviews, where she has no knowledge of the facts of the question.

.."feature the "same windows, same wood, same products.">>>So does every fu*king house in my subdivision. Does that mean that I stole something???

People, people, get real! It's so obvious. Michael Jackson is DEAD, dammit, and Sarah's just clearing her schedule to take his place. Fact. Really. I just made it up!

THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH TODD's Situation.
HE MAY HAVE ASSULTED A YOUNG CHICK OR THE YOUNG CHICK HAD MORE THAN ONE CLEAR ALIBI TO BACK IT UP. AND IN THE PROCESS SOMONe TODD et la TRIED TO BUY SILENCE..BUT IT WAS NOT TO BE SILENCED....

Remember THAT HER SPEECH MAKES NO MENTION OF TODD.
ALSO SHE LOOKS TOTALY IN TEARS.

THAT AND OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE COME TO A HEAD-
of serious CRIMINAL ACTS that wont stay hushed...........

Kenyan?

Obama walks into a bar with a monkey. Bartender exclaims 'Wow, where'd you get that!?'.

Monkey teplies 'In Kenya, they've got them all over the place there!'

Did anyone notice, she's in some kind of nervous, manic state while making this speech, and rambled and said a lot of nothing?

.."feature the "same windows, same wood, same products.">>>So does every fu*king house in my subdivision. Does that mean that I stole something???

ummmmmmmmmm... we aren't talking about another house in a subdivision that was likely built by the same contractors using the same suppliers for materials...

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR COMMERCIAL PROJECT with massive cost overruns and very questionable bidding.

Nice try, buddy, but no comparison here - residential homes and even mcmansions are not built with commercial-grade materials. They are far too expensive.

And palin was part of the Ted Stevens team before she was "catapulted" into AK politics?

We need better trolls - funny how they are out in massive numbers over this one.

I LOVE THE SMELL OF FEAR IN THE MORNING!

I read good story about sarah palin federal indictment
http://taszara.com/sarah...sarah-palin-scandal/762/

What a pathetic story and even more pathetic group of comments. Cam here from a google search expecting a real story but was given a bunch of hunches. No story here. No facts. And yes, most houses and sports complexes are made of wood and have square windows. Also, in small towns such as Wasila there are not an overabundance of contracters who could handle jobs of such scale well and cost effectively. It only makes sense that materials and workers were the same in many cases. If that's what your hunch is based on, it's pretty sad.

And what I don't get is what the obsession with Palin is. People must really perceive her as a valid threat to the Dems agenda.

First time reading this blog and probably my last. I like real, meaty unbiased news.

"I can see scandal from my house!"

Anyone know if her replacement has any handicapped children we can pick on?

I understand the magnitude of the sports complex/Palin house scandal, but I still feel if she's not imprisoned and the Christian Right does not walk away from her, that certain events WILL take place. She will not run for President...as a Republican. She will build a third party, independent movement, possibly absorbing ballot lines of some existing parties (Reform, Constitution)and run that way in 2012. She has the sense of "god-inspired" destiny to be President, but her skin is too thin to handle brusing, competitive Republican primaries. So she can simply skip the middleman and go straight to the endgame. Remember you read it here first!

I like how the people making racist jokes keep getting more and more strident as people ignore them. They just scream louder and louder until they get attention, like retarded babies.

Uh-oh... is there a Palin-Sanford connection?

this is why u are not a journalist. This is the kind of crap that keeps good people out of public office. Where are ther facts asshat.

Why not wait and see what Palin has to say in a day or so. Why speculate?
Your wrong, we're right, end of story!

The greater message behind Palin, of course, is the desperation and ignorance (some call it treasonous intentional incompetence) of the GOP in it's selection of an unvetted little shop of horrors to be second in command of this country.

This woman was a total puff piece, a fraud from the start - perhaps even an experiment to see if abible-thumping female wearing a short skirt and a bouffant hairdo and looking like some sleazy corner hooker could be taken seriously. They learned this lesson fast - NO WAY!

Now they want to ditch her and she's attached to each of them at the hip - not the least of which is pathetic old geyser McCain's political rep and legacy of total buffoonery in the most critical decision he was to make for the american people: ensuring that his second in command could handle the job.

Now we discover that she not only couldn't handle the job of properly rearing her children but is totally incompetent to handle the job as governor and has to quit due toeing totally overwhelmed by it all.

The sick GOP trolls who throw the public's fascination with Palin in our faces know only too well why we care:
1)It indicts the GOP once again for being a gang of incompetent hypocrites.

2) Everyone stops and looks at a train wreck or car accident (so what's new here?).

3) The sheer incredulousness of observing a pathological liar once again spin a spe ech out of pure drivel and lies boggles the mind.

I say this has 'everything to do with TIMING'....just connect the dots of what we do know - June 30 was the date of the federal prosecutor's report where the Veco brothers were spilling their guts in exchange for a lighter sentence.

June 30/July1: Insiders of McCain camp spill their guts about Palin's total inadequacies and attempt to lie about Todd's 7 year membership in the AIP (a total no-no). Why did these insiders decide to go public NOW? It's called CYA in political lingo.

These assclowns totally underestimate the intelligence of the american people in their ridiculous belief that this will not only destroy the GOP now but each time Senile Johnny gets before us, we will all be laughing in his face

McAddled will probably also be linked to Phil Gramm soon and the UBS "tax cheats" so we may see them all wearing matching jumpsuits soon!!

I see the paid GOP sycophantic trolls are out in numbers today - wow! Nice attempt at damage control freepers.

As to the comment above about embezzlement not being a "crime", guess again.

Also, if it walks likea moose, talks like a moose, it's a moose!

The FEDS, incidentally, are the ones who took down TedStevens - this has everything to do with the deadline of June 30 for the federal prosecutors report concerning the Veco brothers spilling their guts and indicting others in return for a lesser sentence.

But go bury your head in the sad, trolls, if you so choose.

And member: Denial is NOT a river in Egypt but I can see it from my front porch! hahahahah!

Looks like Palin's Political tools (aka kids) are out trolling today at bradblog since this story has broken. Nice try, little ones. Thanks but no thanks, hypocrites.

Included among the 2006 earmarks Sen. Barack Obama requested was $1 million for the hospital where Michelle Obama was employed.

Her compensation at the hospital, btw, more than doubled from $121,910 in 2004, just before her husband was elected to the Senate, to $316,962 in 2005, just after he took office.

Amazing coincidence...

From Pancho 1 in Texas:
The demise of the Republican party has NOT been greatly exagerated.

Caren, a couple our fathers and a few hail Marys might help you to get everyone to move on.
But of course, you know deep down that you are the one that is wrong. GIVE IT UP.

WOW!...the right wing nuts are a psyche book full of mental health terms. Mainly "projection", "narcissism" and "denial".
It's obvious that Palin has something to hide...she abruptly resigns with 2 years left to her term, she resigns over 4th of July weekend (slow news time), she's being avoidant about her reasoning and most news organizations are already onto the "Iceberg Scandal".
Yet these right wing automatons and dittoheads are blindly parroting GOP talking points in her defense. I could write a paper on right wing denial and self-loathing just reading their responses on this blog.

Amazing...friggin amazing...

Once again we hear the stupid assertion that anybody who disagrees with the radical lefty posts here MUST BE A "PAID TROLL". Dream on, folks. We post our comments because somebody has to speak the truth.

She's "MAVERICKY"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damail said on 7/4/2009 @ 7:36 am PT...
"Once again we hear the stupid assertion that anybody who disagrees with the radical lefty posts here MUST BE A "PAID TROLL". Dream on, folks. We post our comments because somebody has to speak the truth."

No Damail...what you right wing dittoheads are disagreeing with are the facts. All you have to do is simply google "Iceberg Scandal" and watch the results of that search...I guess now you'll tell us how google is actually a left wing front for anti-GOP propaganda.

ISIS has posted at least 8 different comments on this particular board - all comments rambling and selfserving. Hope someone loves him enough to have placed somewhere where he won't hurt himself.

Gotta love the way trolls are out en mass - trying to smack down the palin travesty. Funny how here, they post with different FEMALE names - like anyone believes that there will be a groundswell of support from women for their fallen comrade!

The self-serving statements being made hear are...

but DRINK THE KOOL-AIDE if you must...

This iceburg issue has been around since the election. I do think that the FBI is probably investigating this. No one gets a 1/2 million dollar home for nothing.

BTW someone needs to investigate the six websites all collecting money for Palin. This issue has alot of room for fraud, if in fact they are not following the law, and requirements of the Federal Election Commission. One PAC has been around since the last election, and they advertised on that site they were collecting monies to pay for tv ads nationally for her. The problem is, that McCain and the RNC were paying for the ads. So where did the money go? Will she stop the donations because if she uses the money for personal reasons, she will be committing fraud. Did she report the $150000 in clothes she took back to Alaska? That is considered income. She had to report this gift and then deduct what the clothes were worth when she put them in the garbage bags. She may have more problems with the IRS in the near future also.

I just can't believe people actually feel she is capable of being President. She does not want to study for two years and learn about foreign affairs. This woman just dosen't know when a lie is a lie, she actually believes some of this stuff. for example, she argued that Todd didn't belong to any anti American group, but he did for seven years, and she is on UTube giving a speech to them.

Letterman & the liberals took her down! (I'm trying to be a troll)

These right wing nuts will believe anything Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly or Sean Hannity tells them to believe. They're totally programmed to react...they don't investigate or read anything that illuminates...they only listen to their programmers; Fox news. They wouldn't know a reasonable rational thought when it comes. They dismiss reasonable, rational thoughts as liberal ideas.
Right wing nuts are robots in skin.

There is something weired or mavricky about Sarah Palin. Her features are attractive but when she start talking she becomes repulsive. Hear her say Alasak..she say AlaskAAA

Comment #124 Heather:

"First time reading this blog and probably my last. First time reading this blog and probably my last. I like real, meaty unbiased news."

Heather likes "...real, meaty unbiased news"; who cares what Heather likes???

My "TROLL-O-METER" is reading off-the-charts here!

When is reporting a factual story..."biased"? When you don't like the story!

Attack the messenger...when you don't like the story and don't want it reported!

Same old left-wing filth...yawn!

Answer this: why did she resign? Is that "made up"? Sarah Palin resigning is "same old left-wing filth", I guess.

Headline: "Sarah Palin's resignation is same old left-wing filth"

Well the NEOCONS attempting to salvage the oil industry with the blood of young Americans took a big hit yesterday when Alaska's Bimbo-in-Chief took the "high road" and resigned. What piece of clay will the American Oil Aristocracy replace her with? Hard to say? Who's left? Not Romney. Not NEOCON-KOOKY enough...though he has the looks for it. I think the happiest guy in town right now is Newton Leroy McPherson....I mean Newton Leroy Gingrich. But how will Leroy keep it in his pants till 2012?

Not A Palin fan but this kind of speculative "reporting" is what you find in the magazines while waiting in line at the store and is indicative of the sad state of affairs of the modern so called media and the lemming like following they have.
This kind of "reporting" is the same sort that wallows in the ignorance of such insightful endeavors as "does Obama wear boxers or briefs?" or "what does Obama eat?"
Pathetic and a sad commentary that America no longer understands the concept of critical thinking and instead only requires The National Enquirer and sound bytes.
Wonder how many here spend mindless hours in front of their TV glued to the screen watching American Idol or the plethora of inane "reality" shows.
And people actually wonder why America is in the mess it is?
First and last time to take a look at the drivel here-if I want to see clowns acting as reporters I'll wait for the circus to come to town.

Just another move by the Marxist-Socialist dictatorship of Barack Hussein Obama to destroy all potential political enemies. Did anyone ever asked how Gov Sanfords email ended up in the hands of the fawning Obama media. Was it the Dept of Homeland securities wire tapping

jake - nothing speculative about brad's reporting and if you take what anyone what anyone else posts here without checking it out, you are stoooooooopid.

Nothing speculative about:

*$500,000+ home whose value is probably immensely understanded

*"first dude" did not build it, his neighbors say that

*palin was part of team stevens - guilty of corruption but let off on a technicality relating to chimpy's incompetent DOJ (funny how repugs usually scream about these things)

*embezzlement is a felony and the feds have every right to get involved

*trading public favors to enrich yourself at taxpayers expense is embezzlement - especially when a scam sports-complex with huge cost over-runs can be demonstrated to be part of the deal to build said $500,000 house

*people already convicted of crimes related to AK corruption had until June 30 to show "good faith", tell what they know, and hope for lighter criminal sentences

*Out of the blue, July 3, palin quits!

These are easy to document facts and they are more than enough to put the kibosh on your little bimbo-fraud queen.

When this is done, her supporters will WISH it was all about boofin' her husband's business partners.

Just to add on. These were the same tactics used by Hitler, Stalin, and Lenin to destroy all opposition. Recently, Chavez has used this tactic against his political opponent who was the mayor of Caracus...to consolidate his power. That mayor is now in living in exile. Wake up peaple!!!!!

Apologies for being off topic...but I must say...

Right Wingers haven't realized that the country has shifted to the Left. Right wing policies and hypocracy has exposed them as shams and charlatans. Right Wing catering to billionaires and Wall Street has exposed them as ignorant tools of the rich, while those very rich folks are robbing them (and all of us)blind.
The right wing dittohead automatons are simply divide and conquer tools to keep the population at each other's throats and distract from the blatant robbery that's happening before our very eyes.
The racist Obama haters are just using right wing politics as a cover for their bigotry.
I'm not happy with Obama because he hasn't delivered what he campaigned on yet...he may still deliver he's only 6 months into a 4 year term. But listening to this right wing ignorant mob incited by Fox news's lies and craziness gives me hope...

The right wing lies have been exposed...soon true conservatives will regain control of their party from the radical right wing fringe. And maybe this country will again have a reasonable rational debate. Here's hoping the Left doesn't give up before that happens...so far Obama's ignoring of the Left makes him look bought and paid for by Wall Street. This country is there for the people to take back, but we have to make Obama know that we won't be ignored.
The clock is ticking Obama...listen to us or the Left finds another party to back...right now the Greens look promising.

BREAKING NEWS:

Hitler used massive public works porkbarrel project to embezzle funds to build a house in Alaska!!!!!!!

Thanks for the hot tip, bozo...

Comment #159

Didn't Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity or some other loony right wing mouthpiece say the same thing ?
Now you repeat it like a parrot.

deprogram son or mam...

Alaska deserved better than Palin so this is for the good of the state.

Her "cut and run" ramblings yesterday just reminded me of why she should have never been placed a 72 year old heart beat from the Presidency. The USA deserved better and we voted better on Nov 4th 2008.

If Palin wanted to be seriously considered in 2012, she should have returned to Alaska, picked up (and read) a few books, and did the job for which she was paid by Alaska taxpayers. Palin is cooked politically but those who love her will still have their dose of her on Faux News along with other Republican ex-convicts.

It's telling that right wingers only deny Palin did anything illegal. They don't present any evidence or reason other than "everyone is out to get her". They ignore her history and any evidence that points to wrongdoing. They simply say it and everyone better believe it, or we're all Stalin, Hitler and Chavez lovers.

Shannyn Moore (just a girl from homer blog) is tweeting the story that Palin is about to be indicted for having her home built for free in exchange for awarding the contract to the $13 million Wasilla Sports Complex.

If true, that's a huge whooops!

Hey Bluehawk

It was your boy that nationalize the GM, Chysler, Banks and insurance. Bush gave out the first 350,000 billion and YOUR BOY gave out the rest to Wall Street. Your boy gave out another 797 BILLION to special interest groups. Is your your leftist scumbags that ran Fannie and Freddie and used those banks to give out welfare mortgage loans to people that can't afford them especially a significant number of illegal aliens to buy off votes. While your boys at ACORN were stealing elections and protesting at the homes of AIG executives, your boy Barack Hussein Obama was giving out bonuses at Fannie and Freddie and had their former Executive T. Raines who made hundreds of millions of dollars on his economic committee. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd should be in jail for their role in Fannie and Freddie. Wake up brother...a Marxist-Socialist dictarship is brewing right before your nose.

Wow, LS. That's a load of material. Is your brain on underdrive today or is that how you usually are? Do you even know or understand what a "Marxist-Socialist dictarship (sic)" is? Or are you using phrases just to make yourself sound smarter than Sarah Palin?

Comment #166....your facts are twisted.

W Bush handed Wall Street $750 billion with no strings attached...not Obama.
the $797 Bil. Obama sent out as a stimulus package went to the States mostly (yeah American states are special interest groups)
Fannie and Freddie played a role in this meltdown, but your ignoring of Citigroup, Goldman-Sachs, Countrywide etc etc shows your right wing programming.
Acorn- funny you present no facts other than parroting Rushbo Hannity etc etc. ACORN is their favorite boogyman.

It's ironic that you single out Chris Dodd and Barney Frank for jail...yet ignore Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, Alberto Gonzalez etc etc.

Your vision is really myopic...but Fox news programming will do that to you.

Now this is exactly what I mean-another Joe-obviously either on Brad's payroll or a long standing member of the Ignoratti who is incapable of offering a dissenting opinion without quoting the ever present anonymous sources, neighbors etc who mysteriously have no names and never quite materialize. Or resorting to the playground behavior of calling people stupid-what else is in your Harvard acquired vocabulary- such argument defining cliches as "I know you are but what am I?" or "it takes one to know?" And your use of what I'm sure you consider clever and insider terms like first dude is really dated.
Rather than reveal the nature of your character or lack of it might be better to wipe that brown off of your nose, tell Brad you did your best and remain silent. Difficult perhaps-but hey,give it your best shot. What a boon the net must be for you huh?
Again-not a Palin fan-nor a fan of your hero -who thanks to his insightful policies you and every man, woman and child in this country now owe in excess of $180,000.00. Oh yeah one more thing -that would be understated rather than understanded-guess that's another field of expertise for you-property evaluation.

Question to Right Wingers...
Did you know that Corporate control of government is Fascist ?
Did you know that Socialist is actually an economic tool, not a governing philosophy ?
Did you know that most Democracies in the world have socialist elements ? Only the U.S. is radically capitalist.

If I asked a right wing loon why the sky is blue; he or she will tell me I'm nuts because the grass is green.

These sources are not anonymous - public record, but there is a new thing on the tubes - its called "the google".

If you want sources, you can "google" it yourself! but these facts were actually known last fall, INCLUDING THE JUNE 30TH DATE!!!!!!!!!

But, hey, you somehow found your way here - try this "google" thing and see what you can find on the "tubes"!

Another Joe

Hitler used trumped up charges to get rid of potential political enemies and either imprisoned them and forced them into exile.

My leftist brother...Did you ask yourself why the fawning Obama media placed all that attention on Palin's wardrobe but never questioned the cost of Michele's Obama wardrobe especially the one she wore on inauguration day. How about her $400 sneakers that she wore to visit a bunch of black poor inner city kids.

With the help of an slobbering Wall Street corporate controlled media a Marxist-Socialist dictatorship is brewing right under your nose.

And to make you feel good, Bush started the process.

Today is July 4th, take the TIME TO READ THE CONSTITITION and BILL OF RIGHTS. WHETHER WE ARE LEFT OR RIGHT WE NEED TO BAND TOGETHER TO PROTECT IT, BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.

i think your full of B.S.and are a major reason why good people quit because thier tired of you looking into your crystal ball for more crap

When Palin was giving her farewell speach, I beleive that I heard her say that Lincoln was the instigator for the US to buy Alaska. Alaska was purchase in 1867 a few years after Lincoln.

Hitler used Alaska taxpayer money to build his own home, understating its value at $500,000 to minimize the extent of the embezzlement?!?!?!?!?

WOW!!!!!!

And said monies were embezzled via a bogus sports complex with endless cost-overruns that nearly bankruptcy that community?

And hitler accomplished this through a rigged process that was part of convicted criminal ted stevens corrupt reign of power?

Damn - that dude may have been evil, but he was WAY ahead of his time!

That speech was an absolute train wreck. The loons mating in the background were the perfect aural enhancement. She was tense, hissing through her teeth, and making as much sense as if she was trying to speak in tongues. My immediate impression was that the decision and the speech were made and cobbled together in a hurry, and that something big must be afoot for her to throw away her presidential ambitions like this. Pass the butter, she's toast.

Too bad, though. I was looking forward to having her campaign in Iowa. There is not much entertainment value in the Mittster or Jindal. Oh, well. Maybe Huck will play the Surf Ballroom again.

Maybe we should wait and see if there any any real reason for her resignation. The woman has tried to convey several legitimate messages on issues and instead of listening to her substance people have insulted her life, her values, her looks, her family. She must be a stupid low life since she didn't graduate from Harvard and doesn't live in LA or NYC. I frankly found it refreshing that a real person could move into the "good ole boy" political world and try to use a little common sense. God knows politics has gotten out of hand, and become so hateful. I don't blame her for leaving, she is tired to the feeding frenzy surrounding herself and her family.

Blue Hawk

You asked some very intelligent questions and I'm going to answer them

First...Fascism and socialism are of the same family. NAZISM stands for Nationalist Socialist Party. The difference is this. Nazism is socialism but gives the appearance of capitalism. What I mean here is there are Corporations that are separate from gov't however, through coercion the government controls the corporations. Socialism is direct command control by the government. What we have brewing here in front of us that first started with Bush and is now accelerating right in front our collective noses is a combinational Fascist-Socialist dictatorship.

As for your next questions, show me where socialism and maxism actually worked. Britain and France have socialist based gov't and there are nearly Bankrupt. As for Russia..what happenned to them. China has survived but they are turning to capitalism.

The bottom line is that the constitition does not allow the federal govt to be involved in SOCIAL ENGINEERING like Medicare and Social Security. This issues should be handled by each of the REPUBLICS. ALASKA should be dealing with healthcare, education, and welfare as expressed by each states individual constition.

I've hoped that I have enlightened you. Happy Independence Day

Finally broke down and watched the video above of Palin's speech. For those who have not watched, here is a summary of her speech:

"babblebabblebabble*GASP*

Thank you and God bless Alaska."

Yes, brillian analysis - up is down, left is right, black is white, and quitting is "winning" and doing the "hard-work" and staying is "quitting".

No wonder the backwash loves this one - exactly cut from the cloth that chimpy is - chronic liar that will say ANYTHING and cover it up with an endless stream of crap!

Gotta love quittin' on the voters you begged to send you to the govenor's office less than 2 years ago, less than 1/2 way into your term. That is "winning" and making a "strong political statement!"

What a role model for girls and young woman all around America! Great message too - QUIT and pretend doing so is somehow "taking the high rode"

I sure hope our trolls (that I am sure are posting under multiple identities mostly using handles that imply female, but are probably otherwise) come back as the rest of us break out the popcorn and find out what really precipitated this.

Fine principled stand indeed - QUIT RIGHT BEFORE THE FOURTH OF JULY NEWS DUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment #177

Cindy...So to you it's perfectly normal for an elected governor to walk away from her elected duties halfway through her term and give no viable reason ?
If she were sick she would have said so, it would have played well with her victim complex.

Sarah Palin didn't bust the good ol' boys network, she became one of them.
I am eternally grateful that a woman who couldn't site a news source she read or describe any policies that were at work in this country didn't become within a heartbeat of the Presidency. Sarah Palin was all the evidence needed last November that the GOP had lost it's mind by putting her on the ticket.
The GOP got what they deserved in Sarah Palin...laughed at.

I can see the moon from my front porch...

For all of you on here using terms "socialist,marxist and etc." you really don't know the meaning of but heard on your favorite but biased cable station and took it for granted THEY knew what they were talking about spend some of the time you use posting messages on here and increase your vocabulary by hitting a book. Start with a dictionary and work your way up.

I think my ex husband has given Todd an STD.

Wonder if our newly found trolls (under different identities and implying they are mostly female - NOT!) would hail palin for quittin' the VP role had she won.

And if she had somehow succeeded mclame because he could not finish his term, wonder if they would proclaim that here quitting the presidency was a "shrewd" move too?!?!?!?!?

Funny how none of the trolls will respond to the FACT that, had mclame won, SHE WAS A HEARTBEAT AWAY FROM THE PRESIDENCY.

Quittin' would look real presidential and principled then, wouldn't it, trolls?

TheOne, don't know, even a kiddies dictionary is a pretty disciplined read, perhaps a picture dictionary is a better start.

But for my money, you can't beat the PIGEON series by Mo Willems!

They always pop these things on Fridays. Lost in the news cycle.

Better yet if it is a holiday!

Comment #178...LS you're way off....

First off Nazi Germany was Fascist; the first government with a Military Industrial complex, just like the U.S. has now.
Just because the fascists that ran Germany used the word "socialist" doesn't mean Germany practiced Socialism.
Socialism works all over the world...it's just that your mouthpieces Rushbo and Hannity ignore that fact. You saying Britain and France are broke is hilarious, last I heard so was the U.S.
For an example of where Socialism worked, look no farther than right here in the Good ol' US of A...
The new deal was socialism at it's best. it created the middle class and gave workers some dignity and a piece of the American dream.

Ronald Reagan started the undoing of our middle class and unionized labor...Bush Sr. and Clinton continued and W Bush put Reagan's destruction of the new deal on steroids and finished the job.

No offense intended but you need to do some more reading...your facts are way off.

Now this is entertainment!

What fun!

bluebear2 - not this time, people are going to laugh and talk about this all holiday weekend! Just look at the threads about it on all the blogs - don't think I have ever seen this much dialog on one topic here.

And look at how it is bringing the wacko trolls out!!!!!! We never see this many here either (and so many different "new" female posters!?!?!?!?!?!?)

The conventional wisdom about the friday news dump CERTAINLY DID NOT APPLY IN THIS CASE!

Is this "Cut and run" as used by Pig Lips during the campaign?
In an interview with Fake News immediately after the press conference, her brother said he found the same way everyone else did - the news conference. The announcer at Fake News said they knew about it 2 hours before the announcement. I guess they are more important than the "family". Didn't she also say that the family voted "hell yea!" How? Pig Lips First husband "flew in last night to be at my side, as usual". Why wasn't he there when the decision was being voted on?
Another one bites the dust.

Please trust me, liberals aren't panicking about this news. We are partly reveling in her resignation and partly sad because it makes her a nonfactor in 2012.

Why wasn't he there when the decision was being voted on?

She's been boofin' his business partner again, but now it looks like he will lose their $500,000 (actually much more) home!

#178, if not for the Socialism, where would we be today?
We have:
1. 5-day work week
2. 7 1/2 to 8 hour work day
3. Minimum wage
4. Medicare for your for parents and grandparents
5. Social Security(if small Bush(the shrub) had his way, Wall Street would have lost all that in their greed)
6. Somewhat clean air to breathe
7. The right to vote
8. A banking system that worked for 50 years until the Gramm and McCain dismantled it
9. Food that is somewhat safe to eat
10. Imports that were tariffed to save American jobs, until Reagan/Bush dismantled it
11. OSHA for a safe workplace(the miners are still hoping to be included)

TO LIST A FEW! There are lots more I can add.

I love how the republicans are convincing themselves that liberals are actually "scared" of palin. Funny how thats what rush said yesterday and now that is the main talking point. Idiots.

Also, just as an aside, if you're gonna talk the talk, you gotta walk the walk, GOP.

A general comment on partisan battles the are in these comments: I find lots of criticisms by liberal/progressives of what Obam is doing with Wall Street etc..and they have issues with Dodd and Frank, and also issues with what Paulson, Bush. However, most of the conservatives comments on her seem to indicate you only think only evil or corruption comes from Dems, never conservatives. While most liberal Dems I know think Dems pols do a lot bad also, but tend to support Dems in general as less worse as Repubs. I think you can make a credible case that as bad as I see Geitner and Obama on bank bailout, they are less worse than Paulson, because they have been slightly more transparent and slightly better spending some of the debt on general economy not just banksters. Not that is much consolation to me, as our Admin and Congress seem owned by Wall Street.

However, my point is, I can see flaws in Dem pols and can admit that they exposing of these flaws is not just Repub conspiracy or just holier-than-thou religious zealots looking down on Dems, they really are corrupt sometimes. I think many stories on Brad Blog show how this blog and many of its followers are willing to be quite critical of Dems when it is of real substance, like Brad's issue with Holt voting bill currently profiled here and Hillary's strangely analamous comeback win in NH primary etc... but BradBlog is also unwilling to yield to inaccurate spin like Acorn stupidity or saying Franken stole it when MN process was a million times more thorough and transparent and bi-partisan than Florida 2000. I think where evidence supports the Dem criticism, Brad Blog and the like are more than willing to report it and expose it.

How can we make progress if we just always think the other party is the bad guy and can't see the corruption and lack of populist representation where ever it is. Please, conservatives, please consider some of your guys can be corrupt too, just as Brad has been willing to do in regards to Dems. And where our interests overlap, such as the corruption of government by Wall Street, lets get it together and stop this corruption instead of always blaming the other party.

OH.... I see now-it's on the net. Well what more verification does one need? I wasn't aware of the unimpeachable nature of the net.
Gee you mean all the alien abduction stories are true? Have you been assigned your Fema number and relocation site yet-or fitted for one of those Fema "coffins"? Elvis and MJ are really alive and well?-what a relief!
Google it-today's mantra-and the pathetic fallacy that Wikipedia has become with their constant battle to root out the misinformation there.
Since you seem to be familiar with the oft trod path to these unimpeachable sites try the latest thing-it's called cross referencing.
Instead of clinging to whatever would seem to support your favored position be willing to search for opposing views and objectively weigh the merits and base your opinions on those results.
The "tubes"-let me guess you have never heard the term "photoshopped' and for the multitude of "evidence' that has been shown to be ps'd you are in denial and claim instead that such creators of these laughable bits of evidence are unsung patriotic heroes? Well 'nuf said then.
Don't you realize that all it takes in today's society is for some idiot to make a statement, present "proof" and it then becomes gospel? Do you buy into all this?
I'm willing to bet you are one of the so called "truthers" who thinks 9/11 was a government conspiracy , the NWO and Illuminatti are behind the swine flu and nobody ever actually landed on the moon because it is indeed cheese and incapable of supporting the additional weight.
Personally I don't care what Palin or your
personal favorite does-haven't you realized by now that no politician serves the best interests of the country-their primary concern is re election, the political debts they have incurred and corporate America? All the while counting on people to obscure reality with bumper stickers, ridiculous mantras and waving banners with either an elephant or an ass on it.

Ain't it strange how conservatives seem to be the experts in everything Fascist, Socialist, Nazi/Hitler, Communist, etc.? Just sayin'...

"COMMENT #116 [Permalink]
... ChMoore said on 7/4/2009 @ 2:14 am PT...

I have a simple question about simple logic. Why would "federal investigators" give a rats ass about sports complex building materials being used for the governor's home?

I'm going on the assumption that neither the Wasilla Sports complex or the governor's home are federal buildings, or federally funded, therefore federal investigators would not have jurisdiction."

Answers:

1. Mail and wire fraud - Title 18, UnitedStates Code, Sections 1341,1343, and 1346

2. Title 18, United States Code,Sections 666(a)(1)(B) and 2 - Theft or bribery concerning programs receiving Federal funds. "Concerning" is the operative word here. If the Wasilla Sports Complex or the city are receiving federal money for practically any kind of program taking place there, it probably will be sufficient to establish a violation.

BaltoJim - spot on, but then again, if you have supported chimpy and his criminal family throughout the years - you are actually throwing your support behind the criminal cabal that brought hitler to power and then made fortunes underwriting WW II

They are the FIRST FAMILY OF TREASON!

This is such vindication of female liberals everywhere who patently rejected Failin'Palin as "one of them". Once this woman paraded her children on stage using them as political tools, we began to smell a rat (or an abusive mother). Of course, when her obviously embarrassingly pregnant daughter was outed by Palin to the media and they responded, she slapped them down saying "family was off limits".

When did we EVER see Obama's daughters out there as political pawns on stage? Fact: Never! This is a quality parent who is not ambiguous - saying one thing and doing another. This is the action of a very caring parent.

Then she was sequestered from the press in an obvious attempt for her to "study up" so she could be made presentable. Well, as it now goes the adage thoughout (which she even said about herself) was that you "can't put lipstick on a pig" and if it smells like a pig, walks like a pig...well you get the 'gist.

This vacuous woman in no way, shape or form could be made presentable or credible to the intelligent, accomplished women in this country who patently rejected her. Her lack of curiosity, intelligence and world view made it obvious that she was out of her league and, in no way, exemplified the qualities and characteristics of a national leader.

We now have the proof which we've known for a long time - Sarah Palin botched her job as mother with her children; she couldn't cut the mustard even being Mayor of Wasilla where there was a massive recall ongoing for her ouster, she never showed up for work as Governor of Alaska (the legislature had "where's sarah" pins - yes, actually they did!). Her approval ratings tanked like the titanic following her "onstage hate mongering" which was tantamount to inciting violence in our public square and she should have been arrested under the Patriot Act back then.

Failin'Palin botches it again - this time she quit again just as she did with the 5 or 6 colleges she attended when she didn't get the grades she wanted......it's a pathological pattern of incompetence combined with psychiatric paranoia and the need to play the 'victim'.

If all you've evern known is chaos, then when things become a bit too calm, you pathologically create your own situation to increase the chaos.

Palin has been embroiled in petty disagreements with everyone who has ever crossed her path in life from her own brother in law, to her college profs, to the people of wasilla and now to her own legislature who have now rejected her.

Sorry Sarah but we all knew that you were never cut out for the job. It's difficult for intelligent women everywhere to refrain from saying the obvious: We told you so!

You want a truth? Check out what Helen Thomas had to say about the glaring lack of openness and access to the carefully crafted and manipulated "town hall" meetings.
"Change" was that the devotional you all sang?
Well America certainly has it-only problem is the stench surrounding it.
"Worse than Nixon" she says-that must cause a serious carbuncle on the collective a** of the faithful. My bad-they will deny and mindlessly continue on their myopic way.
Would it have been better with an elephant in the house rather than an ass-not for one minute, and that is the point.

[ed note: Link --99]

Uhh...Jake...please...take your meds...

Comment #201...

Helen Thomas was critical of Obama's town hall meeting. Well that's a good thing.
What's even more great about that is that Obama's staff didn't lash back at Helen or attempt to smear her like right wing administrations have done. Helen voiced her concerns and critique of Obama's whitehouse without repercussion...reporters who critiqued the Bushies were retalitated against by the right wing smear machine and lied about on Fox news.
Helen Thomas voiced her critisism of Obama without repercusssin or backlash...it's so American...great for the 4th of July.

I think perhaps you and some others need to get off of yours-they seem to be interfering with your cognitive abilities--and those high colonics don't seem to be helping much either.
Care to comment re the "public" town halls?

sorry isis, post number 200, but i have seen obamas kids whenever they will do him some good. as for him being a 'quality' anything, that remains to be seen. so far he has said many things and then turned around and done something different.you are free to question palins qualifications, but making fun of a down stndrome chuld, like some in this thread have done, and the press treatment of her family in general is dispicable. you suggest palin has abused her children, do you know that you are required by law to report suspected child abuse? if you don't do so you can be brought on on charges yourself. there is no 'i told you so' moment in child abuse cases, if you know about it you have to report it. so be an adult, and go ahead, report it, i dare you. as for palin herself, i do not think she was ready to be VP, but her children are off limits, just like obamas are off limits.and i seem to remember them an awful lot during the campaign, on election nite, their 1st day at [private]school. and, oh yeah, how come he didn't send the kids to public school in washington d.c. but expects the other citizens of d.c. to do so? your hypocrasy is showing isis, and so is obamas.

No..because this post is re: dimbulb Sarah Palin. Try to stay on topic, Jake. My cognitive abilities are intact..it's yours that I fear for.

Oh this good-they get praise for not "lashing back" at an 89 year old woman-how very gallant of them-had they of there would have been an insurrection not only in that room at that moment but in every media source in this country and you know as well as I do--what compassion,what sensitivity, what service to the people.

Comment #207...

Jake should I post how the Bushies lashed out at a 84 yr. old Helen. It was shameless.

Obama was a jerk to Helen Thomas, our hero, in the press conference/town hall, and obviously set up the question from the Iranian thing. You can see it for yourself at this link a little way down the page on the left.

And this is the link to what Helen had to say about it, and it was, as usual, dead-bang right on the money.

That 44 is emulating 43 doesn't make Pig Lips okay. She is an embarrassment to womanhood, and to this country. I'll grant she has a lot of company, but it doesn't make her any less deserving of prosecution for her crimes, and humiliation for her hypocrisy and hubris.

Trig's father is the Governor of South Carolina!

*wink* you betcha!

Appreciate your concern and solicitude -you are trained in the healing sciences? On topic huh-I see numerous posts here-entire replies referencing Communism, Marxism, Socialism, Reagan, Dodd,Rush, Hannity, France ad infinitum sans a single reference to Palin-perhaps the topic has expanded, and perhaps in a direction that illustrates the fallacy of what is perceived and what is real in both parties, and has therefore become uncomfortable for some defenders of the mantra. That is called an open forum and free speech-look it up on this Independence Day-is my mistake here that this is one of the "town hall" meetings where the questions and subject matter are predesignated?

And, here's a good, much shorter, video where Helen makes her point abundantly clear.

Bush's retarded antics towards Helen completely backfired on him and rightfully so didn't they? And no doubt there was a keen awareness of that at this press conference.

Brad your full crap. If she had pending indictment or investigations on something like this would have broke 6 to 8 months ago. I think she wants to cash in on her fame and is tired of people like you and that Biegel women who photoshopped a radio show host's head on Trig. No person in politics has been scrutinized and had her life combed through than Sarah Palin. Her life is an open book and this b.s. Why resign? If there is an indictment the Governorship would be a great bargaining tool for a plea deal are you that stupid that you don't see it.

Comment #213....
So you're saying that maybe Obama learned from other's mistakes and didn't commit those very same mistakes ?

Isn't that a sign of intelligence ?
It's quite ironic that right wingers are now so pro-Helen Thomas...it's really funny when you think about it. A few years ago righties despised Helen Thomas.

Helen Thomas is a straight shooter...always has been. The Bushies punished her for it. Obama's whitehouse understands her role.

B.S. a pending indictment would have been big news for months. She is disinterested with running Alaska and the legislature going against her on the stimulus made her more disinterested.

BlueHawk, the Obama White House very clearly is starting down the exact same path with Helen. They're being snide, patronizing, evasive and telling her to email her questions if she wants them answered. Pay attention.

#157
"Just another move by the Marxist-Socialist dictatorship of Barack Hussein Obama to destroy all potential political enemies. Did anyone ever asked how Gov Sanfords email ended up in the hands of the fawning Obama media. Was it the Dept of Homeland securities wire tapping"

Of course this was a big concern of yours the last 8 yrs as bush started the illegal wire tapping on american citizens. point me to your op-ed pieces decrying the loss of our civil liberties the last 8 years and i'll listen to you now. otherwise, shutup

No credible evidence to substaniate this conspiracy piece. There are no secrets when Sarah Palin is involved. The national media has been out get her since August and the Alaska media has been after her for the last 5 years. You are just some guy sitting about in his dirty underwear blogging in his parents basement!

Comment #216...

What a crock of crap. She was elected to govern Alaska for 4 years; it was her commitment. Barring illness (she's not sick) or criminality (very probable) she's bound to that commitment to those that voted for her.

Now you tell me what kind of trust will she have with an electorate going forward ?
Because she feels she can walk away from her commitment because she became "disinterested" ?

Where do you guys get this crap ?

You're sounding really silly....

Whether or not the right used to hate her for it, everyone should be pissed off about her treatment, and everyone should listen to what she has to say. Helen Thomas is a time-tested truth-teller and has more experience with presidential bullshit detection than anyone alive.

Not being a right winger I cannot speak for them but I would suggest that this is not a partisan issue and if you think it is by implying that perhaps the "right wingers" have no voice in this then surely you are partisan and the very issues of openness,change, and transparency you rallied round have as much meaning to you as they do this administration. Sorry but you can't have it both ways. A sign of intelligence and the White House? There's a contradiction in terms if I've ever heard one. This sounds like the cleanup your favorite offered when he announced his selection of HC and it was pointed out all the negative things he had said about her -his reply-"campaign rhetoric"-that's an in your face insult and pronouncement of what to expect. And who do the lefties despise?

Given what I know about the gullability of my fellow citizens (as so ably exampled by the trolls here), Palin's resignation, no matter what the true background finally ends up being, ensures her ability to make a ton of money for herself and the GOP. Her resignation, which follows directly from her narcissitic personality, is merely about HER ability to roam the land,unfettered by restriction, in order to become a rich woman. I think her calculus is that why hassle with trying to become President when I all I want is to become wealthy. Enjoy your freedom (while it lasts?)...

it doesn't make her any less deserving of prosecution for her crimes, and humiliation for her hypocrisy and hubris.

You mean like Ted Kennedy? Amazing how Democrats are all about prosecuting those responsible for their crimes... unless those responsible are Democrats.

The drunken sod I was referring to starts with Kennedy, and continues with Pelosi, Reid, Murtha, and the recent celebutante to enter the Hall of Liars, Barack Obama.

FYI - If Iraq is such a failure - why has Obama called it a success, and taken credit for that success. And will you all attack him when he declares AFG a success, albeit after 1000's more soldiers lives are lost? Will you mock him when he holds up the flag and says "We Won".. as aften as he say "I Won"? Some of my Democrat friends are now realizing that Obama is Bush -lite. Not even close. Bush lite would be a welcomed improvement to the fool Obama truly is. This is a lame ignorant President who releases three of the worst terrorists still alive today in exchange for TWO DEAD BRITISH HOSTAGES. Nice going, Idiot In Chief! You got punked by Muslim Terrorists.

As for all the crap in this piece about Palin and indictments. If you can't name your sources and/or find anyone to go on record to corraborate this "story", then you're know different than the fool at Hollywood & Vine screaming that the sky is falling.

Move along. Nothing more to see here.

@John Graham: You're new here, aren't you? You must be, or you wouldn't be so f*cking unaware.

Comment #224...

WOW! reaching back 40 years to Ted Kennedy ?

And then you follow up with some Glenn Beck inspired fairy tales.

Amazing

Palin Indictment Countdown Parties to Begin!

People everywhere are rejoicing that this fraud has stepped down as she has become a major embarrassment to a huge majority of americans (Repubs included).

This news about the federal prosecutors report on June 30 regarding the Veco brothers and what they're saying about Palin's involvement in corruption and embezzlement is most definitely the reason for her hasty departure. Remember: this woman is not enlightened enough to run from anything but the law.

Consider the sequence of last week:

June 30 - Federal prosecutors release findings from Veco investigation and/or their plea bargaining in exchange for critical palin information.

July 1-2 - McCain camp happens to release very damaging and damnin emails from Palin vis-a-vis her attempt to lie about Todd's 7 year membership in the Alaska Secession Party (AIP). She actually was admonished by Schmidt for attempting to spin this into a total lie.

July 3 - Palin cobbles together a ridiculous resignation presser complete with mating ducks behind her and standing in front of what may be come to be known as the crime scene. You can't make this stuff up and it's a perfect plot for a new thriller. Doesn't the criminal always try to throw everyone a curve ball (using Palin's childish sports analogies)?

Buckle your seat belts, folks, because we're all in for a very bumpy ride.

This sad drama has only reached Act 1.

Juliana, the full quote was:

I'll grant she has a lot of company, but it doesn't make her any less deserving of prosecution for her crimes, and humiliation for her hypocrisy and hubris.

so it's pretty clear yer just looking for a way to bash Ted Kennedy and justify Iraq through Obama's willingness to continue it. Moral relativism is not a defense. It's just helping send things down the toilet faster. Really. How can you stop the hypocrisy, hubris and corruption in government that way? You can't.

Ray Tanto @ 214 said:

No person in politics has been scrutinized and had her life combed through than Sarah Palin.

I must have been imagining things from 1992 to 2000, I guess. Silly me.

John Graham--re the underwear and basement-lmao at the mental image and the predictable truth of it.
And being new here should be perceived as a compliment as the air is stale with the rancidity of blind party allegiance and pseudo intellectualism. I am honestly surprised we haven't seen the "America love it or leave" floated yet or the quasi New Agey liberal "I'd like to give the world a coke" pap made famous in the Coca Cola ads. Don't take that feel good free coke -there is a huge devastating price tag attached to it.

This is very interesting. Last october they went after this. I suspect it took about 1 hour for Spenard to look up tickets for supplies and the case was dropped. Mr Palin worked on the North Slope. It is 7 on and seven off and he could work full time building a house. Saves several hundred thousand dollars. Remember Stevens didn't do any work on his. Windows. The liberals that live in the cities are clueless. Small towns have only one lumber yard and that yard may have a lot of locations. It pays to carry only 1 brand. Some window companies have 5-6 names they sell under. Canada also has very few brands and they are glazed for artic temps.
He also wears Carhart and that is what builders wear. Since Palin was a Mayor, Spenard a statewide and regional brand really didn't get much for subsidizing a small town Mayor.
Another lie on daily kos is the impossibliity of building a house when you have 5 kids. How crazy. Do the math. That is 7 years ago and they had not all been born. Embezzlement is a common word. That is when someone handles cas. I doubt she handled a dollar but the city had a book keeper/accojnatant that paid bills.
Nice sports arena. Dr Menard promoted it. Indoor soccer and even an ice hockey team. That meas they sell tickets and generate revenue. The sports complex hosted the state soccer championships several times. It is not a church gym. For some reason, blogs report gossip as news. Too lazy to do research? i have been to Wasilla. It is on the main hwy and is booming.

lots of angry people on this thread on both sides. lets agree on this, palin is a dope, kennedy a drunk who killed a girl in 1969, obama is not what we expected, and lets leave all their children alone. [except for kennedy's, as he is a public figure as rhode islands representative, and currently in 'rehab' for the 3rd time.]

god, i crack myself up.

Full crap, dirty underwear, poopy pants?

What's a Biegel?

Henry Link-well that tears it-now you've not only deflated the true believers here but p***** them off as well. You got a lot of nerve Henry to post this "gibberish" and actually point out obvious facts. "blogs report gossip as news"-say it isn't so-it shatters so many concepts.
I wonder does anyone here work for the DNC? Does anyone here want to be Axelrod when they grow up? Do Republicans have a clue? Is there such thing as unbiased objective reporting?
Hey-it's the 4th-drink some beer and have a bbq and take the kids to enjoy the fireworks- for the times they are a changin' and nothing anyone has said here will influence or impact that one iota.
Carpe diem..............but remember as well while doing so......Qui Tacit Consentit.

... another joe said on 7/3/2009 @ 9:01 pm PT...
>>So that's the palin mansion? no wonder her teen daughter is able to have unprotected sex anytime shw wants (which, evidently is quite often). The place is huge!

>>Sorry - comment not posted.
Fact: My house is 1800 sq ft
Fact: Palin's house is less than twice the size of mine.
Opinion: My house is not that big. We have 3 people in our family.
Opinion: Palin's house is barely adequate considering the size of her family.
Opinion: It *is* an ugly house

Comment #233 Jim...

As true as that was...it was funny.

As far as me personally; I too tire of the partisan stuff. But seeing as we're hearing the same old tired lying right wing rhetoric; I'm at a loss as to how counter it. Other than pointing it out the ignorance and hypocracy of right wingers and coming off as "partisan".
As far as I'm concerned...I'm a Progressive in search of a party with the guts to institute some Progressive policies. It's obvious that the Dems don't have the guts.
I find it amusing the the right wing nuts will call Obama a loony socialist in one breath and then call him "Bush lite" in the next...and they don't see the duplicitous nature of their statements. I sincerely believe that right wing nuts are completely confused and bamboozled by the brainwashing of Fox news.
Obama is 6 months into a 4 yr. term...and this juncture W Bush had done nothing but vacation in Crawford while the tech bubble was bursting and ignore CIA warnings about an imminent threat of a terrorist attack (9/11).
No I'm not happy with Obama at this time...but he gets credit for at least being at work. Maybe, just maybe there is a long term plan in operation and Obama feels the best way to appraoch our crisis is to not tip everything over at once...Maybe it's a baby steps approach. I'm willing to see where we are in a year. Then I'll judge Obama's performance.

COMMENT #195 [Permalink]
... karen said on 7/4/2009 @ 11:01 am PT...

My vote for best comment!

Jake @169
Total math fail
180k x 300million does not equal US debt
off by a factor if 5

So dragging the convo back to the original point...

Right wingers still haven't given a viable sensible reason why a woman elected to govern a state for 4 years; decides she doesn't want to do that anymore.
She's not ill; so that's not the issue.
She simply decided she didn't want the job anymore ?
Does that make her a trusted person to elect to any other office again.
Ms. Palin does this on a "news dump" day which only adds to the speculation of coming charges of wrong doing...and in the reading of right wing responses to Ms. Palin's obvious irresponsible act they offer No, nada, zilch as a workable reason...other than it's Obama's fault or Dems fault or they were out to get her anyway...and those right wingers wonder why they aren't taken seriously.

Three Denver residents yesterday charged that they were forcibly removed from one of President Bush's town meetings on Social Security because they displayed a bumper sticker on their car condemning the administration's Middle East policies.

http://www.washingtonpos...es/A10969-2005Mar29.html

As much as I dislike her "smart people are stupid" and the fact that the bottom line is that she just isn;t very bright, I tend towards the idea that she took a look around at her family and realized this is not what she wants. Call her a quitter if you must, but perhaps the reasons are as simple as she so convolutedly stated in her PC. She wants a more normal life. we'll see if that holds true. Probably not, but maybe.

A gay prostitute, a phony media organization that managed to sneak its "reporter" into White House press briefings, and the lies that were fed to the media and the American people in the run-up to war with Iraq – what possible connection could these items have to one another?

Amid the media frenzy over Gannon's journalistic bona fides, or lack of them – and the lurid speculation going on in the left lane of the blogosphere about how a purported male hooker got admitted to White House press briefings before his "Talon News Agency" (a front group created by "GOPUSA") was even created – one has to ask: who cares?

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=4879

Talon News "reporter" lobs Bush another softball; is Talon a news organization or an arm of the Republican Party?

http://mediamatters.org/research/200501260015

HEY BLUEHAWK, i'm somewhat the opposite of you, but don't like the republicans anymore. as bush was responsible for everything that happened from january 20,2001, obama is from january 20,2009. that includes 2,000,000 more unemployed. remeber he said the the stimulus would cap unemloyment at 8%. well, we blew right by that number, and yet obama keeps blamming bush. i like my politicians with a spine and a firm backbone. we haven't had one of those in awhile. but you dont seem like the average libtard, and i'm no right wing zealot, maybe you and i should get together and , between the two of us, put our country back together.

Under the Bush administration, the federal government has aggressively used a well-established tool of public relations: the prepackaged, ready-to-serve news report that major corporations have long distributed to TV stations to pitch everything from headache remedies to auto insurance. In all, at least 20 federal agencies, including the Defense Department and the Census Bureau, have made and distributed hundreds of television news segments in the past four years, records and interviews show. Many were subsequently broadcast on local stations across the country without any acknowledgement of the government's role in their production.

http://www.nytimes.com/2...3/politics/13covert.html

Bush 'planted fake news stories on American TV'

http://www.independent.c...-american-tv-480172.html

The Education Department paid commentator Armstrong Williams $241,000 to help promote President Bush's No Child Left Behind law on the air, an arrangement that Williams acknowledged yesterday involved "bad judgment" on his part.

http://www.washingtonpos...les/A56330-2005Jan7.html

SO big dan, IF BUSH DID IT , ITS OK THAT OBAMA DID? is that your point? well they both snorted cocaine too, and it was wrong of them to do so. your logic escapes me. god, i glad bush didn't have sex with helen thomas, because by your logic, obama would also have to.

Bill check this out and me give your opinion whether you think it errs and on which side.
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/...o_ot/us_mountain_of_debt

You will find similar figures scattered around-npr huffington post etc.

Wow. I am shocked at the number of right wing trolls posting on here. Don't tell me at least some of your aren't paid. We know better. This is just ridiculous. Who do you all think you are going to convince that Palin doesn't have another scandal brewing? You right wing apologists just kill me. They can do no wrong in your eyes.

And, before I get flamed, I am not and have never been an Obama supporter, so please don't try to distract with Obama is doing x, y and z. I don't approve of much he is doing but Palin would have been a horror in office. THAT'S a fact.

God I sure hope Nader or Kucinich runs again.

Comment #246 Jim

It's a deal. But I have to challenge you on some of your statements.
First off, I don't recall Obama saying he would cap unemployment at 8%. You'll have to show some evidence of that.
2nd; This Bush economic meltdown had a full momentum when Obama took office in January. Please explain to me how Obama is supposed to turn that around in less than 6 months.
Face it the radical right wing has shaped this economy for 8 years, maybe even going back to '94. None, I repeat none of this is Obama's doing. If things are the same this time next year then I'll entertain it...but now this is still Bush's economy.

But I do stand with you on the point that this country will only heal when left and right can have a decent debate-conversation on the issues and settle on a course of action. As it now the Right Wing noise machine is sabotaging the country...Ideology won't save us. A willingness to work together in a true give and take manner is our only hope.
The right wing noise machine needs to be silenced for that to happen. The only way that's going to happen is when true conservatives put them on mute and start working for the good of all...not just right wing sympathizers.

Kucinich maybe-nader would be as inept and out in the ozone as LaRouche in my opinion. What intrigues me is this all out fascination with Palin- she is an also ran footnote in history and I doubt she will ever hold an elected office again.Get over it-the trough is empty.
This "news" article has about as much relevance on the national stage your favorite soap opera.
I wonder if it is this right wing noise machine mentioned above that is making criminals out of people who don't have health insurance as this health care package is destined to do-or if it is the same noise machine that will criminalize honest people for the heinous crime of carrying a folding pocket knife in their pocket? Where is the linkage between that and the previous bizarro administration?
Moreover please define openness and transparency as evidently we all misunderstood during the campaign.

Jake @ comment #169:
Again-not a Palin fan-nor a fan of your hero -who thanks to his insightful policies you and every man, woman and child in this country now owe in excess of $180,000.00. Oh yeah one more thing -that would be understated rather than understanded-guess that's another field of expertise for you-property evaluation.

Unfunded future commitments are not now owed. And which of these future commitments are "thanks to his [Obama's] insightful policies"?

Medicare Part D? Social Security? Medicare? Is it true to say that since January 2009 the US has accrued 54 trillion in debt and unfunded obligations? It is not true.

Change the retirement age to 70 and the value our future obligations tumble. Negotiate drug prices using CMS's market power and the value our future obligations tumble.

The problem with extending trend lines out 50 years and coming up with a number (54 trillion) is that it assumes policies are static which has never been true.

jim

Big Dan loves to point out wingnut hypocrisy, and media hypocrisy, and I'm certain he's not saying it's okay if Obama does it.

hey BLUEHAWK you there? YEAH, the LA times reported that obama stated that unemployment would not go over 8% if his stimulus plan was passed, and when they questioned his people on june 9th, 2009, his people said the new standard was now 10%, what will happen when we blow right by that number? you are correct the meltdown began with bush, but we elected obama because he said he would solve it. i haven't seen any sign of that yet, and sorry buddy, but i'm not willing to give him another year before i criticize him.when we get to 11% whose fault is it then? where does obamas responsibility begin and bush's end? the answer is on jan.20th, 2009. plus, i really dislike that we still have troops in iraq, which obama could withdraw today if he wanted, and double the troops in afganistan, which is all on him. sorry, bluehawk, he sounds pretty, he even got me to vote for him, but watch what he does, not what he says, afterall, he is a politician. i really don't care what party someone is a member of, i just want leaders with a backbone, not ones who bend with the wind, am so far,obama is doing alot of bending.

Now there's a solution-change the retirement age to 70-why not 80? Think of the tumbling obligations if that were the case-you seem to propose that the social security fund is even solvent-do you think so? Now factor in how many will not live to 70 or 80 to collect "their" benefits and the economic picture becomes even rosier.
Whats your take on the hesitancy and stammering now emanating from the palace re the nobody gets a tax increase who makes 250 k or less? Do you believe that? Do you believe that the 100 or so new taxes being contemplated now to offset this ignorance of spending will not be enacted?
Do you think the Dem's will restrain themselves from a tax and spend mentality?
And at what point do you think-if ever -this administration will have to man up and take some responsibility for its actions. All this crybaby whining is so reminiscent of the Flip Wilson routine of the devil made me do it.
I remember the label teflon man applied to Reagan and it was true-but this guy now redefines the definition.
Bush was and is idiot as well as the new emperor who has no clothes. Maybe hard to admit once having thrown your vote away but that's the way of it. I love the I'm gonna wait and give him a year-that no doubt will evolve into 2 years or 3 years with the same song and dance-the devil made me do it. We never learn do we?

Levi about to blow the news on Trig? LOL

When I win, I'll be back for the reward.

HEY AGENT 99, WELL IF THAT IS BIG DANS JOB far be it from me to hurt a working man. he must be very busy if thats what he does for a living, hope hes well paid.

Sarah Palin is a thoughtful and responsible public servant. By stepping down now, she assures that there will be an orderly transfer of executive power on the 26th after she and her family are raptured on the 25th.

I heard that she will ask the Reverend Moon to finance her new "think (on a very low level) tank" for politically ambitious former beauty pageant contestants, Cretinous Women for America.

@Jake - At least Nader has a long proven track record and you know he wouldn't be bought. He also holds a similar stance on the issues of today that I do. I find it much easier to choose a politician that already believes as I do than to choose one who is "more likely to win" and then try to strong arm them into taking the actions I prefer...

Comment #257 Jim

RE: Obama bending....that we can agree on.

As far as unemployment goes, I can't see how anyone in their right mind would say umemployment would stop at 8%, no matter what measures were taken.

Does Obama need to sac up and make some audacious moves ? YES! and so far he's playing it too safe and having arguments with himself about what the loony right wing will say.

But us agreeing on elected officials including Obama needing a backbone is a start.

I'll take it.

DebbieKat...

RE: Kucinich or Nader

I agree they may be a better choice. I voted for Kucinich in the Dem primary in my state. And if the Greens can muster some presence in the next 4 years I'll vote for them in more than local elections.

Folks, we are already way beyond 10% in unemployment. Starting back in the days of Clinton, they stopped counting "discouraged workers". They don't count being "underemployed". They don't count part-timers that really want to work full time. I'd say we're probably closer to 12% or more.

There are so many problems with our elected officials these days. They are mostly bought and paid for by large corporations (pharmaceuticals, health care, bankers, oil, agriculture...) that they are not acting on our behalves. I just wish that the third parties would start putting forth some candidates for congress and senate in my neck of the woods. We always get the same pap running every year here. I'm so sick of my two senators.

The fact is we need universal single payer health care. With all these people out of work, soon no one is going to be able to see a doctor. They'll all be going to emergency rooms for basic care that they've waited far too long for.

I really don't care to prop up the insurance industry any longer. If they don't make it illegal, I'm hoping to scrap my insurance next year. Hell, even if they make it mandatory, I'm not sure I want to continue this faux coverage.

. DebbieKat I agree he probably wouldn't be ought and he has been a conciousness raiser-I am not a Kucinichite just think between the two he wold be the better choice. Even though I am indigenous I found his selection of Winona "no nukes" LaDuke as a running mate in 2000 basically the equivalent of
Palin's selection-questionable, and cast doubts all the way to the top.

Comment 266 DebbieKat

ABSOLUTELY!!!

I agree straight down the line with your post.

My first thought about Palin's press conference was that it was a sloppy,misguided attempt to hit the road for 2012.
I have to agree with the sentiments in this blog that she's scared of something that's coming down the pike soon. Most likley a legal or ethics problem. The Sports Complex- house building issue makes sense.
That speech did confirm what I thought last election season, namely that Sarah Palin is in no way qualified to serve as VP. Hell, she couldn't even finish out her term as Governor!
Am I the only one that recognized where she ripped off that phrase about the dead fish going with the flow? She got that from Jim Hightower's book "Swim against the Current: Even a Dead Fish Can Go With the Flow".
One thing is for sure: Nobody with high political ambitions cuts and runs from a post like Governor unless they are desperately trying to get in fron of something damning.
After that rambling performance I'm pretty sure she's toast. But then again we have to consider that the conversation regarding her political life will involve the Republican Party and they are the "geniuses" that discovered her in the first place.

Only "dead fish go with the flow" but corrupt politicians accept quid pro quo.

Palin's famous last words.

Guess with the Tea Parties flopping left and right, the rightwing extremists are out in force - even here today. They're sunk now. Their protege has shown that she's a quitter - actually quit every job/position she ever held, even college jumping around to 5 schools in 5 years.

Leopards never lose their spots and the catbird always sings. Sing on Veco brothers, sing on.

You can always count on mindless republicans to try to hijack every thread when they know they're losing. Nothing new here today.

Soon they'll be blaming Failin'Palin's quitting as Clinton's fault. Get a life repubs before your numbers are so low that you're barely in the double digits.

Comical how these wingnuts project about the national media not playing fairly with Palin.

Everyone remembers vividly how she "set up" the con by dragging her kids onto the stage for everyone to oogle - yes, even reporters. When they noted an obviously pregnant unwed teen in their midst, they inquired. Bam! Door to doing ANY and ALL interviews closed in their faces.

They tried their best to hide Palin's lack of innate intelligence, ability to articulate herself cogently, and having absolutely NO world view beyond "seeing Russia from her doorstep" but it didn't work.

Soft touch interview with Gibson and she blew it coming out of the starting gate (say it ain't so, Joe!).

Of course, Katie Couric tried one of those "gotcha questions" by asking her what she reads - huh? Are you kidding me? She was stumped because it's clear that she stopped learning long, long ago (which requires an ability to read).

So there you have it - she tried to hide from the media and trusted very few to interview her and even with the soft touches, bombed abysmally before the american people.

They tried to quarantine her pre-debate and inculcate her dense grey matter with facts and platforms - bong! Thanks for playing! She was winking and looking like a clueless airhead instead.

They could only do so much with the degree of talent they were given. Some pigs cannot be lipsticked regardless of how much we wish it to be so. If wishes were dollars, she'd be a millionairess by now.

Always a bridesmaid and never a bride. Always a runner up and never a winner.

Clue: Winners never quit and quitters never win.

We sincerely hope Scarah will be the Repubs candidate in 2012...this will so cement in an already sure Democratic victory.....Please Scarah....ruuunnnnn...

well, BLACKHAWK, YOU ARE RIGHT, now we can begin. maybe cocktails, like reagan and tip o'niel use to have together. were there ever two more diverse political men then those two? yet they had a warm friendship. the looney left and wingnuts on the right are destroying this country.

HEY ISIS, in your comment #200 you said palin was an abusive mother, in my follow up #205 i explained the legalities involved. so now my question is do you withdraw the charge or are you going to report palin to the authorities? or, perhaps you are just a daft fringe person, every bit as dangerous as a far right wingnut? which is it? this thread and the world waits your response.

Jake for President. Jake sees all...knows all....is all. Jake is God incarnate. All bow before the great all-knowing eye that is Jake.

First chink in the armor here? If this whole blog is based on gossip and bs will Brad and Shannyn have it what it takes to fess up? Stay tuned.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/...re_us/us_palin_resigning

I made note that my comments were deleted because I made reference to another writer on this blog. Apparently it is just fine to slam and disgrace Palin but the libs who do this are protected from similar attacks. It is not family values you all are against. It values in general except, of course, the ones you make up as you go along. And you dare use the word hypocrite !!

[ed note: Just read the commenting rules before you get your shorts so bunched. Fine to bash the snot out of public people but not other commenters. Plenty of times I have to delete liberals calling wingnuts names. --99]

Comment 275....now come on Jim...

I read post 200 (and reread it) Isis said nothing of the sort. I also read and reread your reply in 205 and you twisted and added meaning to Isis's post that wasn't intended or even implied by her.

Nowhere did Isis mention Palin's down syndrome child, yet you accused her of "making fun of the child". That's the kind of dishonest twisting and frankly dishonesty that occurs far too often when trying to communicate with right wingers.

Your reply to Isis's post about the children was uncalled for...and represented nothing of what Isis actually said.

Come on man...we can do better than that.

must have pressed your twit button-okay Craig the jobs yours-you can be my Axelrod-need a lot of parades-some catchy mantra like change-oops that's been taken-I will run on the Contrarian ticket-whatever anybody else is for I'll be against--the motto will be--hey-I can't make it any worse.
We'll go on the net and dun people for money-promise them everything and then renege after wards saying it was mere campaign rhetoric-and taxes,don't forget taxes, gotta promise not to raise them that always resonates well- oh yeah we have to spend non existent money and suck up to banks and big biz-and lying we have to become really adept at that but make it look like its the other guys fault-easy enough, their must be text books and manuals on the subject that all who enter politics are privy to. Is it too early to start the campaign now? This is a historic day,
and just think it was your advice that was the impetus for it all.

Comment 278

And yet another baseless right wing rant.
Nothing I read here about Sarah Palin isn't also public record. Palin has disgraced herself...we libs are commenting on Palin's record. She is a public figure you know.

Now you get all hissy and think you and your kind are the only ones with "family values" or any values at all for that matter.

Are you serious ?

sadly I sense that you are...

You don't need me, nor anyone else, Jake. You can do it all by yourself. You are the Almighty. I am nothing. The world will live in triumphant wealth and prosperity when you rise to power. Sarah Palin will worship you as she has never worshipped before. All hail Jake, all hail Palin.

BLACKHAWK my friend, i never said isis made fun of the down syndrome child, i said others on the thread did. isis did imply that palin was a child abuser, look in the [ ] where she says, and i quote 'we began to smell a rat [or a child abuser]' unquote. please reread my post 205. i was pointing out to isis that some on this thread did make fun of trig, not her, and that it was dispicible, as discipile as isis'implication of child abuse. maybe i wasn't as clear in my writing, but at least in my mind i never said isis said anything about trig, but she certainly said that palin was a child abuser.

"But then as she began to articulate her reasons, I began to understand better," he said. "And nobody — unless they've been in her position and understood what she has gone through and dealt with and who she is as a person — really understands."

Lawdy, lawdy, she is Michael Jackson after all.

this isn't the world of sports where we pick a team and blindly wave the team flag and wear outrageous hats or pieces of cheese on our heads. This is about this country, about the future and what will be left of it for the next generation-for your children. All of us should unite to hold these snake oil salesmen known as politicians to task regardless of what party they are affiliated with.

I don't think anyone's mentioned that she may have been offered the choice between resigning and prosecution. In which case, she might have a glorious future as the next Great American Anita Bryant, or use the time to get brain implants for when she's asked to serve as Jeb's Ambassador to Russia.

Comment 283....my case in point Jim...

You refuse to even get my handle right...your referring to me as "Blackhawk" instead of the BlueHawk that heads my every post....kinda makes my point.

Seems you decided what you're gonna call me irregardless of what I state that my handle is.
It's a fitting metaphor for trying to talk to right wingers...they've decided how or what someone feels about something, regardless of what they say or do to define their position themselves.

Isis's post 200 speaks for itself...no matter how you try to redefine it.

You're sounding more and more like a disillusioned Senate page as we go along Craig-for some obscure reason known only to you, you would have it that I am a Palinite or right winger or whatever term it is that you employ when at a s loss for words-read up, I believe I am an equal opportunity offender when it comes to verbally maligning politicians.
I wasn't aware that you are conjoined at the hip with any of them and that to you it is a personal matter.
We are all in this boat together-the differences always seem to break down upon party lines-that is foolish and incredibly narrow sighted, and I dare say counted upon. Kind of like the divide and conquer strategy.
This is the peoples country-we are guaranteed a representative government that serves-do you think with all the behind doors passage of legislation and deal making-or the bypassing of protocol, or the giving of a 1000 plus pages to read hours before a vote is taken is representative? Do you think Count Dodd in the darkness of night hastily scribbling in bonus clauses for thieves and liars with a pen that surely must have been dripping with taxpayer blood
was representative or service?
The "buck stops here" remember that? That means whoever is on the throne whether you like it or not.
I can't see how in four years a Republican would be able to be elected dog catcher much less president-and if the present course is maintained I can't see how the change meister will be able to be relected-that means that maybe for the first time an independent will have a viable chance at it-and that's what we should be hoping for-two hundred plus years of two party mediocrity is enough don't you think.

I mean, really, prosecuting government felons is so WWII... what's a few hundred thousand of our money stolen, when others are stealing billions? And what's a little corruption when others are skating for TORTURE? Seriously, rule of law is just not this administration's strong suit, but maybe if we email our new third millennium DoJ they will take it under advisement [aka with a grain of salt].

MY APOLOGIES BLUEHAWK ON THE MISNOMER, THAT WAS MY FAULT. YOU DO NOT EVEN AGREE THAT SHE IMPLIED THAT PALIN WAS A CHILD ABUSER? DESPITE THAT IT IS THERE? DESPITE THAT I USED HER EXACT WORDS? I GUESS WE CAN'T BEGIN AFTERALL, AND OH, BY THE WAY, NO SUCH WORD AS 'IRREGARDLESS', IT MEANS THE SAME AS REGARDLESS, ITS A DOUBLE NEGATIVE. YOUR AD HOMINEM ATTACK ON ME SHOWS YOU FOR WHAT ARE; SOMEONE WHO WHEN PRESENTED WITH QUOTES AND FACTS STILL DENY THEM. NO COCKTAILS FOR YOU. AND BY THE WAY AD HOMINEM ATTACKS ARE A SIGN THAT ONE HAS LOST THE DEBATE.

Scandal? Maybe, but I think she's just getting out of the kitchen.

Comment 290....Jim...

Now you've switched to all caps messages, being a grammar cop and baseless accusations about "ad hominem attacks".

As I said...Isis's post (200) speaks for itself, your redefining her words doesn't change what she meant...your baseless shrill accusations to me likewise are taken for what they are; a distraction from the topic at hand and prodding for sensitivities.
Just because we made nice a few posts back doesn't mean you can act in any manner you please and not expect to get called on your crap.

There is reasonable rational debate...and then there's acrimonious obfuscation. seems you've decided to resort to the latter. It's a typical right wing tactic.

Sad...you showed so much promise.

Dang Brad, looks like she might sue your ass! Who is laughing now? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Hey guys...sorry to start a food fight here but this is what I said and what I meant.

Child abuse comes in a myriad of forms not the least of which is dragging your children around on a campaign trail until all hours of the night. I thought I was quite explicit in my prior comparison of how candidates use their children and families as political pawns - something which Palin brought to a new height.

NOT ONCE did we ever see Obama parade his children around on the campaign trail because he meant what he said when he made them 'off limits'. In fact, we saw that quite clearly on the White House special recently when Gibson made a point of stating that there were not cameras allowed on his childen - even for this special.

What Jim is referring to is media clips of his children doing the normal things we all do - living a normal life (or as normal as one can be under such high security) which contributes to the sense that the Obamas are the epitome of great parents.
Palin pulled the oldest trick in politics however on day one when she attempted to create the illusion of superwoman (wife, supermom, AND Veep candidate) by parading and continuing to parade ad nauseum her cadres of kids to every whistlestop along the way. If that isn't capitalizing on your children by exposing them to the so-called "elite media" , I don't know what is!

Of course when the media wanted to get to know her little darlings a bit better, she recoiled as though she hadn't made the tacit invitation by parading them out there before us. We know that this was simply a devious little "ploy"so that she could demonize the media and decide to NOT give press conferences because she knew that she was sadly limited in her knowledge of the job she was seeking as well as having absolutely no world view. Her inability to cogently and coherently express herself has n't changed one iota as she rambled through her departure speech without anyone knowing what the hell she meant at all.

In any case, the point I wanted to make was that many women objected to the abusive practice of not only parading your minor children on stage at all hours of the night but to use them as obvious political tools as well.

Bluehawk: Thanks for atempting to educate Jim. I fear he's hopeless and, being male, is also clueless as to what real maternal instinct is all about.

Yes, if yer getting loaded for the holiday, please don't let this degenerate into a flat out insult-fest. Seems to me Isis was saying she thinks it's child abuse to expose your kids lives' for a campaign, drag them everywhere when they're supposed to be in school... that sort of thing.

It definitely shows a lack of regard for their well being. I don't think that can really be disputed by anyone who thinks about it for a moment or two.

Of course, scholarship doesn't seem to rank very high on the list of priorities in the Palin household, so they may not even have noticed.

Anyway, seems to me people are starting to get too eager to insult each other here, so maybe you could go have a shower, or kick back with some coffee, relax a little, before coming back to be snide or outraged over practically bubkes. Okay?

You can have whatever opinion you want, and you can express it, but just go easy on the drinking and driving each other crazy thing, okay?

Oh dear. I hope you don't get sued.

UncleZeb, Plumber

Ever heard the one about "can't get blood out of a turnip"? And do you realize that there are slap back laws now that keep slap suits from scaring people anymore?

Agent 99: Peace! It's good to know that there are not only other good parents out here but people with logic, intelligence, and a sense of joie de vivre! Happy 4th!

And to you, isis.

Well, what an interesting time this has been-everybody got to rant and mud sling-another joe called me stooooooopid- I was advised to start taking my meds again-craig lobbied for me to throw my hat in the presidential ring-which I humbly and graciously accepted-somebody got spanked by the moderator-jim met blackhawk errr I mean bluehawk, they exchanged friendship rings and then parted throwing stones-typical Americana wouldn't you say?I hope it has had the entertainment value for one and all that has for me and serves to illustrate the disunity that has contributed to circumstance past and present.

I've been here off and on all day.
I just discovered this blog today while researching Sarah Palin's resignation. It's been stimulating and I'll definately return to partake in great discussions. It's an open forum and I understand that all kinds show up...all that being said; I enjoyed it.

Stay informed, stay open minded (those who are willing) and know that we can return our country to sanity...

Happy 4th everyone...

Peace, BlueHawk

bluehawk, JUST SO YOU KNOW I LOST MY LEFT ARM, BACK IN 1970, WHILE IN THE MILTARY. so its a bit hard for me to type properly. you were the one who started in on me, and you should expect to get called on your crap. as for my 'grammar police' work, look at it as a favor, you won't use it ['irregardless'] again without thinking about me.if you can't get along with me, someone who is liberal on social issues, conservative on other things, someone who voted for obama, i guess there is no hope for our country afterall. a liberal like you is only happy if someone agrees with them on everything. sounds to me like you are as bad as a right winger, who also have no tolerance for other ideas or views. like isis, you go too far, which is a problem of both extremes. like letterman, you don't know the difference between right and wrong, only what you believe. and if you believe it,well, live in your fantasy world. and by the way, isis did imply in post 200 that palin was a child abuser. your refusing to admit it says more about you then you think.

OUCH

http://www.msnbc.msn.com.../politics-more_politics/

"But Palin attorney Thomas Van Flein on Saturday warned legal action may be taken against bloggers and publications that reprint what he calls fraudulent claims."

"To the extent several websites, most notably liberal Alaska blogger Shannyn Moore, are now claiming as 'fact' that Governor Palin resigned because she is 'under federal investigation' for embezzlement or other criminal wrongdoing, we will be exploring legal options this week to address such defamation," Van Flein said in a statement. "This is to provide notice to Ms. Moore, and those who re-publish the defamation, such as Huffington Post, MSNBC, the New York Times and The Washington Post, that the Palins will not allow them to propagate defamatory material without answering to this in a court of law."

As posted in comment 277 and still the cadence never so much as slowed.

jim

"Child abuse" is a broad term. It doesn't always refer to sexual abuse or molestation or physical abuse. It can just plain mean bad parenting, a lack of regard for the kids' safety or well being. You are making a federal case out of something that was clear enough to start out with and has been clarified since.

Chill.

Comment 302 ...Good Gawd! Jim...

I don't know how I "started in on you"...you were mangling Isis's post till it was unrecognizable from what she intended. I tire of that tactic in debates.
What I'm trying to do here is make a graceful exit..
Seems you've made a lot of assumptions about me. And from what I've witnessed here today, it won't make sense to clarify or justify myself to you. You'll hang on with your assumptions about me and they'll comfort you...whether they're true or not.

Good night and good luck...

jake

I'm sure it was meant to slow the cadence, but it's almost certainly hot air meant to slow cadences, and I'm pretty sure that when the Palins consult their attorneys, their attorneys will tell them to get a life. There can't be any truth to it, but if there were, it's just proof she can dish it out but not take it. At least the bloggers are sticking to sources instead of just making shit up and screaming it on the stump all up and down the country. You seem to think Palin is some kind of darling person being picked on. She's a pit viper and she made that 100% plain across the MSM and in person last summer.

All this gossip and "pit bull" tactics against Palin means the Dems feel threatened. I want to see the "anointed one's" Kenyan birth certificate. I think Larry Sinclair is actually telling the truth. Attacking her children is so below the belt. I can't believe I am still a Dem and voting GOP because Obama won't show his birth certificate. We have troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, and a President who abhors them. I hope everyone of this blog who supports him has a solution to pay off our debt.

AGENT 99 'child abuser' as isis stated in post 200 is not a broad term. it, at the least, implies that a child is neglected. if that is the case let isis make the charge to the authorities. if not she should withdraw the statement. remember 99, she wasn;t referring to child abuse in general, she said 'child abuser'.

BLUEHAWK goodnight

agent 99, a judge in new jersey just ruled that a blogger in jersey can be extradited to connecticut to stand trial for something he blogged about a politician or a judge in connecticut. kind of scary to me. i don't even think isis should be brought to account for her post, no matter how much it may offend palin or me.

http://www.latimes.com/n...009jul05,0,7018263.story

Uh...Brad, I hate to inform you of this, but you're gonna need a lawyer. Van Flein has a copy of this right now, and it's not looking good.

Brad,

You're going to jail with the other vermin;
Palin is not.

Good riddance.

Joe

Palin is pure evil and a complete liar, everyone knows she is a crook and like all republicans is a fascist islamic paranoiac. Obama is the new messiah, long live Barack, our hero who will dispell the evil republicans once and for all.

Long Live Obama!!!!! May his mark be on all of us!!!

Great work Brad on showing us the truth!

Looks like Sarah Palin is gonna sue you Brad!

....no more lying, smearing, oops I mean reporting for you now.

Hey...I'm a paid right-wing troll so here it goes (I'm kinda new at this so bear with me):

MOONBAT LIBERAL LEFTIST MARXIST SOCIALIST JEREMIAH WRIGHT TEA-BAGGER LEWINSKY UNHINGED PDS BDS CDS LDS RDS ADS ADD ADHD UPS MSM UNPATRIOTIC TERRORIST SYMPATHIZER WILLIAM AYERS FOX NEWS BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH WHINE SNIVEL AND BLAT MOAN AND GROAN! GO SARAH!!! (can I get my $1.75 now?)

oops...I forgot JESUS

Patriot Rose -Larry Sinclair has finally been thrown into the mix-whats the latest with him and his filed briefs(?).

Good job, Syntax! For that you get a raise to $1.85!

Oh, and, Brad, you bastard! You're ugly and your mother dresses you funny too. Take that! You blogging toad you!

What? You think you're gonna save the world, pickin' on a womin?

Ahhh!

Comment 318--whoa - if this doesn't result in an "I know you are but what am I" I will be completely stunned.

Awwww....I'm speshal!

Don't continue to humiliate the legend of your namesake Maxwell Smart here- is it necessary that a remedial reading course be a prerequisite to entering this site? Where in the entirety of this blog have I stated anything that you could interpret as a qualifier for this quote from you? "You seem to think Palin is some kind of darling person being picked on."

Agent 99, you're doing it wrong!!! If you're going to be an effective right-wing troll, you need to say this:

"It's so typical of these leftist, liberal whores to be so low as to resort to name calling!!!"

That's the correct way to be an effective right-wing troll. Here is another example:

"Leave it to the Liberal media to keep pushing these lies and complete fabrications of facts concerning Todd Palin being a member of the Alaska Independence Succession Party when BARRACK OBAMA ISN'T EVEN A LEGAL RESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND HAS NO BIRTH CERTIFICATE TO PROVE IT!!!"

Hello?

COMMENT #250 [Permalink]
... jim said on 7/4/2009 @ 3:06 pm PT...

SO big dan, IF BUSH DID IT , ITS OK THAT OBAMA DID? is that your point?

No. My point is: where were you when BUSH was doing this for 8 f*cking years????????????????

Well that's a wrap for me folks-the hour grows late and I have to begin working on my campaign.
Hope it was a good 4th for all of you and that life treats you well. Chin up Craig-it ain't nothing but a thing as they say in the hood.

I so totally suck as a troll, Syntax. You have the moves.

Dave:"Unlike Obama, Trig's birth certificate has never been disclosed "

Could you link me to Obama's? You know, a hospital issued paper. It would be great news for me.

And just in case, Trig does not want to be a president yet (though after Obama why not?), so he kind of should not prove anything.

Right Brad...Get real....Why do you people have to make up such scandalous material? You know it isn't true. I hope you have to eat your words in 2012! Funny how this won't post.....afraid of a Palin supporter?

Vote Bachmann/Trig for 2012!!!

This is insane--California's crazy bankrupt (any takers for the '4th largest economy in the world' spot? anyone? Iceland, Albania?) Pakistan is shambles, Mexico overrun by drug lords, America is in the shitter, and you're yelling over Obama's goddamn BIRTH CERTIFICATE??? The pits of hell could open under us all and you'd want to see Satan's immigration papers!! Where's your priorities, you pseudo-armchair patriots!?!?!
I agree woith lovely piglips palin on one thing though: smaller government/more state's rights. Maybe if the AK(47) Seccesionist (NOT SUCCessionist) movement succeeds, those in Vermont, New Hampshire, Cali, Louisiana, Washington, Texas, Montana, et al will win also--smaller government, more state's rights!
Prepare for Palin Phase II...dumdumduMMMMMMMMMMMM

Shannyn Moore,I hope you and others like you go to prison for posting outright lies about Gov. Palin.You and everyone like you are the scum of the earth.What your problem is is the fact anyone that said a negative comment on Gov. Palin are actually scared of having a person in office that truly gives a damn about this country,unlike that communist jackass in office now.

It is amazing to me how zealous the defense of Palin but i think i've figured it out. Palin is GWB in heels. Not only ignorant but apathetic with no cure in sight. They could only be popular in a terribly dumbed down society with low expectations.
But they are folksy, you betcha!

WOW... the rethugs got their own peggy hill.

Did ya see what Ross Anderson said about me? It's truly a hell of a sacrifice to be a right-wing troll. I get that all the time from a ton of people. I got a job to do, ya know?

To be a right-wing troll/extremist, you have to keep your eyes, ears and brain GLUED to anti-Obama media outlets 24/7! Anti-Obama TV News networks, anti-obama radio talk show hosts, anti-obama blogs, anti-obama op/eds, anti-obama books, anti-obama demonstrations and then periodically make victimized comments about how the Liberal Media is unfair, biased and disrespectful to Sarah Palin. And if I don't, I get called unpatriotic by secessionists (thanks for the spell check, yo). It's tough when the people protesting David Letterman call your Mother a whore.

When I clicked on the "Work From Home" link on my favorite porn site, I never realized how much it would alter my life forever being a right-wing troll. I had to go to a tea party to protest Obama's out of control tax hikes and the guy just gave me the biggest tax cut I've seen in over 30 years. It's a good thing too because being a right-wing troll doesn't pay well. Where's the freakin stimulus package for us? I had a cop approach me at the tea party and ask me if I'm a tea-bagger. I said "sure am!". How was I to know? 3 days later, I'm a registered sex offender! I don't even like wearing hats.

My wife left me! My kids won't talk to me! They lie to all their friends and tell them I died on 9/11. My Mother put me up for adoption. I'm 42 years old! I tried to get health insurance and the representative said "it would easier to cover a terrorist". I'm not allowed in state parks or memorials because they're afraid I'll "shoot the place up". Good thing I don't need an abortion, eh? Forget about renting a Hertz truck to move a freakin couch across town. I promote the 2nd amendment and people ask me if they can read Obama's Gun Control legislation and I'm screwed! Hopefully my boss will create or come up with something that can pass for Obama's Gun Control Legislation so the freakin cops will stop calling me a "Beck-pirate" or "Rush-ranger" and tazing me. My dick hasn't worked in months not that right-wing trolls get laid much.

So you know, you can cut a brother some slack. Palin Derangement Syndrome? I got it Sucks to be a Right-Wing Troll syndrome!

Oh yeah...liberals suck!

Re: a little truth about the "Palin under indictment by the FBI" lie that is being passed around by the ends-justify-the-means libs --- Read the headline from the LA Times: Sarah Palin not under FBI investigation, agency spokesman says. But who cares about truth on this site? As far as your rules are concerned (comments at #278),well, Joe the plumber was a private citizen and I bet you all went after him. You are just as hypocritical as those you criticize.

Re: #281 More lib nonsense. Its your pal, churckY shumer, senator from NY who commented on the Obama victory in Nov with this: "you are seeing the end of family values and strong foreign policy." Like I said - the lib side of the aisle has no values except the doctrine of "ends and means," heavy on the "mean' part.

Wow! You all had some fun with this thread - an astonishing turnout by the trolls. Makes me wonder why this is such an important matter to them. And I have to admire their consistency: Jail time for the bloggers, who are doggedly trying to uncover the truth, but Get Out Of Jail Free cards for all the members of the criminal Smirky/Sneery Evil Empire. Breathtaking, really!

"Ever heard the one about "can't get blood out of a turnip"? And do you realize that there are slap back laws now that keep slap suits from scaring people anymore? "

I hope Brad has lots and lots of money, because that along with the defense is going to be very expensive. Time to get a bigger tip jar.

I smell fear, and it's not the Palin's that are scared. hahahahahahaha Got a good lawyer?

http://www.latimes.com/n...009jul05,0,7018263.story

So, this is the part where you and idiots like you shut the hell up and apologize, right?

I hope Palin sues the asses off of you and all the other idiots that perpetuate garbage like this. You all clearly deserve such treatment. If there's any justice, you'll celebrate 2010 living in a cardboard box beneath an overpass somewhere.

It never fails...Caribou Barbie news strikes and I'm out of popcorn.
Can't Stop Laughing....bwahaaaa haaaa
Carry on.

Ha ha ha! Sarah is going to sue bloggers for speculating as to why she suddenly resigned from office? Good luck, Sarah, with that one. You opened yourself up to nothing but speculation and rumore by choosing to quit your job suddenly, without evening notifying your staff. It is your own erratic behavior that gets you into trouble, time and again, although you have a long history of blaming everyone else for your troubles. Wow! What a whiner! I can remember when Sarah said Hillary Clinton needed to buck up and stop whining. What irony!

Jane,

It's sort of like putting up a blog post speculating on something that then goes viral. It doesn't matter if it is true, it just matters that it goes viral. Same with the lawsuit. It doesn't matter if they win, it matters that they bleed you dry.

OK basement dwellers...have you had a look at this?

I think it is irresponsible for Mrs. Palin to quit her job prior to the end of her term. My guess is someone said to her "quit or I'll come forward"

We may never know what it was but it appears forced to me. Higher calling? I don't think so.

Basement Dwellers!!!!! I am not on the Palin defenders 'side' if you will, but that is EFFIN FUNNY!!!!! So many people here, even when I agree with them on the framework of what they are talking about, I can't help but picture what losers they are. Basement dwellers sums it up in an easy, tight perfectly accurate little phrase. I myself speculated on the looming scandal(scroll up, it's there)....and it's starting to look like I might be wrong. When you're wrong you're wrong...but now the basement dwellers feel it is sufficient to jump from speculating on the alleged scandal to now mocking Palin's reaction to it. As much as I'd like it to, that just doesn't work for me.

Clearly, some freaking crazy people - uninformed and delusional people - read this blog.

The "Kenyan"? A "Socialist"? This woman is as nutty as my Aunt's Christmas fruitcakes and they are attacking Obama! We see again why the GOP lost the election. As Twain wrote: "All the fools in town are on our side, and that's purt near a majority in any town". Not any more.

Man,you're stupid.

I would assume that the Palins are not thinking about sueing--they ARE going to sue. I've never seen such a strongly worded attorney's statement in the press. And the mentioned Moore by name! If I were her, I'd get a lawyer pronto.

But she's not the only person who has to worry. In discovery, Palin's attorney will be able to find out who is financing her efforts, and who she is co-ordinating with.

It could get real ugly, and expensive.

There is absolutely no truth to those rumors that we're investigating her or getting ready to indict her," Special Agent Eric Gonzalez said in a phone interview Saturday. "It's just not true." He added that there was "no wiggle room" in his comments for any kind of inquiry

ooops looks like Brads inside source Shannyn Moore who knows all there is to know about Palin is ONCE AGAIN PROVEN WRONG.

Waiting for redraction & apology for spreading mor left wing lies.

Is Shannyn Moore related to that other left wing liar Mockumentary director Michael Moore.

I guess we'll see who hits the panic button when you are subpoenaed to court to testify in the Palin v. Moore defamation case.

I see a new headline: "Left-wing blogosphere gets a lesson in journalistic ethics in defamation case"

Gee haraS quite 6 different colleges until she finally got a 'degree'. Quit the mayor's job, quit the governors job, would have also quit the V.P. job if the heat got to bad. As for the Downs kid, doesn't take a reasonable person's thoughts that past a 'reasonable' age, EGGS tend to be bad and you jeopardize a child trying to bring it into the world. Yea all we need as a party filled with MORE Downs voters, like the Grand Old Pedophiles aren't already brain dead that way as it is.

Return a wardrobe that has already been worn? Only if your a in-the-news RePUGlician neoCONvict and think the media will lay low on you if and when you say that. AK, the state that the rest of the lower 48 has subsidized with more inflowing tax dollars than outflowing ones.

Wonderful how that states voters actually reacted in honesty to her once brain-dead McClaim lost and she had to return and they wanted to know WHY she couldn't do her job, and that it wasn't ALL ABOUT HER, but their state that they had placed her into a job they wanted and elected her to do. But again the quitter left when it was apparent it wouldn't be about HER anymore.

As for that house, Most middle-class people do NOT own a 4,000 sq. ft home with an airplane in the driveway on a private lake. I'm DAMN glad she has 1/2 million $'s in personal legal bills to pay and I hope she has a lot more in the future.

Dirt is flowing and more will come out, We put up with bush, but the rePUG's can't stand to lose and they sent the attack dogs out even before W had left town, and the more they cry the worse they make it for themselves. 7.5 more yrs and then another Dem in the WHITE House.

You BETCHA!

Hey Gonz thanks for the link in COMMENT #339 -will state once again for the umpteenth time that I am not a Palin fan-that, just for the record as people here seem to have a hard time understanding it. It's just that I am fed up with conspiracy stories and the mindless piling on of the sycophants whose greatest argument revolves around words like wingnuts, right wingers and trolls.
The real contingency of trolls here is undeniably the so called "libs" -so called I say as they exhibit an almost total disrespect for the concept of free speech or differing opinion-students of the Constitution one and all no doubt.
So the Fed's say there is no investigation-heartbreak for the lib trolls I would imagine and in retrospect now I wonder do they feel the least embarrassed or chastised for the pack mentality they have exhibited here when they thought they smelled blood?
Shannyn and Brad must be experiencing the mother of all wedgies about now and fittingly so. Think between the two of them there is enough "journalistic" integrity to step up to the plate now?
Caribou Barbie, I laughed months ago when that was first floated but it has really become dated and lost it's cachet, sounding now only the incessant whining of children.
In step with the times I propose that Shannyn be referred to as Tundra Barbie and Brad be referred to as Jimmy Olsen.
And iceberg huh? Iceberg indeed-more like an ice cube or monster egg laid on this blog.
If I'm not mistaken Hannibal somebody or other on an understandably defunct series known as The A Team was in the habit of saying " I love it when a plan comes together", he would have hated how this one unraveled.
Watch now how the libs will concentrate their bashing on the resignation rather than the speculation-all done with a patriotic fervor-time for them to get over this obsessive compulsive behavior.

Sarah Palin threatens to sue ?

Just more tough talk (no action) from a narcissist with a victim complex.

Sarah won't sue...if she does she'll crumble in the court fight...Sarah Palin aint got the guts.

You see; court rooms aren't packed with fawning admirers...It will be Sarah, her non-case and a sober Judge. Against her public record.

Sarah is beaten before she even steps into a court room. She sounds tough and proactive now...but as usual she won't deliver on her words.
Sarah the narcissist, grand standing victim, all talk and no action. Pitt bull-pig lips is a fraud...a day in court will prove it.

Don't sing it Sarah...bring it.

Comment 352....Jake

The Feds in Detroit denied any investigations right up until the passed down indictments on several city council members...I find it funny no one speaks of state charges or ethics committee charges...but hey live in your dream land....

You're doing a td dance on the 3 yd line there son...kinda silly...

This is becoming more unsettling in the way this entire Palin thing is a personal mania-some unhealthy manic episode among the bashers-I think the CDC should investigate this phenomena.---Comment 354-this sounds like a desperate grasping at straws-an unwillingness to let go. And you seem to be celebrating a td when you are aren't even in field goal range.
There is a well known axiom-it is threefold actually: The presumption of innocence, innocent until proven guilty and guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Do you adhere to this?
I'm not an Obama fan-neither would I be a McCain fan if he had been elected-there is to me(and apparently a growing number of others as we watch the popularity polls sliding) some hard questions and discontent revolving around Obama,but rather than join the schizophrenic outcry there by your counterparts I prefer to rely on what can, has or will be shown to be factual.
A simple premise that I would recommend to you as well as others. Not such a foreign concept is it in this land of the free and home of the brave?
Or perhaps it has become a foreign concept and would explain the herd mentality and vitriol on both sides.
This myopic, won't alter my opinion regardless, is destructive. And I am convinced that if intelligent life exists on other planets and they
are capable of viewing us we must appear as the Howard Sterns of the Universe.

And for those who find humor and think it incredulous, this notion of bloggers being held accountable for their words, I suggest you look into the rumblings emanating from your "liberal" AG's office in DC directly related to this issue. These are the issues you should be addressing instead of this silliness.

Comment #355....First off Jake....

You're switching topics like a bird switches perches. No one said Sarah was innocent or guilty or anything.
The topic was investigations or not, not guilt or innocence...try and keep your terms straight or one would think you're being purposely confusing to deflect from the major issue.

It's telling that you Palin lovers don't touch on Palin's highly irresponsible, seemingly suspicious act of quitting without reason, during a news dump time and her rambling deflective presser...
It's pretty apparent that you and the Palin Posse are projecting your frustrations onto everyone else because we're speculating why she would do such a childish thing...was it a public tantrum ? possibly...was it because of indictments coming down the pike ? definately a possibility.

So I'll leave to your Sarah is pure as the driven snow nether world...while we that live in the real world wonder about why Sarah didn't have the guts to stand her post and endure public life...after all it's what she wanted most desperately.
Is Sarah a criminal ?...we don't know

Is Sarah a crybaby, dish it out but can't take it fraud...definately.

You can tell a lot about people by the folks they give their loyalty to...you've proven to be a loyal Palinite...I seriously doubt she'll return the gesture...she quit on Alaska...you're nothing to her.

I suggest you take a moment to peruse your own posts here-obviously you need to enroll in the remedial reading class I had suggested earlier. I saw your whine last night about being called Blackhawk and your accompanying complaint that what you were saying was ignored-seems you suffer from the same malady.
I assume you think this attempt to associate me with the Palinites is the only avenue open to you to continue your messianic rant-it's a little transparent and has as much viability as If I were to say that in fact you are the Palinite and all your words to the contrary are smoke and mirrors. That isn't true is it? Are you in point of fact a closet wingnut sent from the right?
Get real Blackhawk- Bluehawk or whatever your cover is here.
Once more I will attempt to the span the darkness abyss( and do it in caps which seems to annoy you as well) NOT A PALINITE-IF SHE HAS INDEED COMMITTED CRIMINAL OFFENSES SHE NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE-SAME GOES FOR YOUR ROCK STAR AT WHOSE ALTAR YOU YOU GENUFLECT-FOR THAT MATTER ANY AND ALL POLITICIANS SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED AND HELD ACCOUNTABLE- no doubt that would tie up the courts for generations. Now if this is incomprehensible to you please advise and I will attempt again to clarify my position.

Empty Threats. Palin couldn't sue for the rampant internet speculation that she wasn't Trig's mother, and she won't be able to sue any bloggers for this one, either.

I hope one and all are bookmarking this blog will return in ,say a month, read anew the opinions voiced here and compare them to whatever has transpired.
If what they have stated eventuates then please crow a little and strut your stuff-conversely if it shown to be inaccurate don't slink away but rather fess up.
Is this agreeable with everyone?

Comment 358...Jake

read your posts again....you're the biggest Palin slappy here...you're doing more defending than Johnny Cochran.

i will end [at long last] my posts on this thread the way i started; say whatever you want about palin, she is fair game as a public figure, and if she is guilty of any crime put her in jail. however the way the media has castigated her family, especially the 14 year old and her son trig[down syndrome] is dispicible, and if palin is guilty of any crime the media and the behavior of those who made defamatory comments about her children is still dispicible. children are off limits. period. no justifying it, they are off limits.

Certainly would defend your right to express your opinion regardless of what value it may or may not have-would lock arms in the street with you to do so-what you should actually try to do here though is address specific questions I have asked or statements I have made rather than hide behind generalities and trite little labels that even a child would refrain from. Johnny Cochran-another one of your icons? And who I will now quote: "if it doesn't fit you can't convict."
That's your biggest hurdle-you can't make the glove fit and unlike Cochran, who I will assume had some self awareness and respect for the rule of law, you obviously don't and demonstrate that in your self constructed kangaroo court where you fail miserably-you ain't no Solomon Bubba and I ain't no Palinite.
I find your denials and obfuscations to be somewhat OJ like-do they actually work for you?
There are intelligent people here-perhaps your greatest fear-who have or will read our collective posts and make a determination on their own-which is exactly the way it should be-devoid of mindless trolls and their Mad Hatter verbal gyrations such as yourself.
Will you take your ball and go home if we don't all play by your rules?

Get a grip on yourself man you're beginning to unravel.

Thanks for your posts Jim-sorry to see you go-some here who made the effort to be objective, while maybe not agreeing with everything you had to say, none the less found a wisdom in some of your words

Shannyn Moore specifically claimed AS A FACT that Palin engaged in corruption. Fine. Palin denies it, and the claim is actionable. Next stop: court.

That means Moore has just two choices:

(1) prove the allegations fast, or

(2) enter court and be found guilty of this lying bullshit.

No doubt she'll whine and try to weasel out and say "I was wrong," or "people lied to me" but it won't help. She wrote it as fact and will have to answer for it in court.

The result, if Palin sues, is a foregone conclusion. Moore - and others - will be ruined.

Comment #363....Jake...

Please tell me you're joking.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and call your post a bad attempt at humor...god forbid you were trying to sound intelligent.

Comment 365...Heydo...

At least your post makes sense...BUT

First off...Shannyn Moore has to prove nothing, she's not a prosecutor or policing agency. She's a journalist who claims Sarah Palin commited embezzlement, theft or whatever.
Secondly is why Sarah Palin will NEVER take this to court...if it went to court Shannyn Moore would be able to testify to WHAT SHE DOES KNOW; and I assure you that Sarah Palin doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to endure that.

I bet Shannyn Moore hopes like kids on christmas that Sarah Plain does sue...

The Palin Posse can sling the bluster about suing all they want...I assure you that Sarah Palin doesn't want to be in court against a journalist...
Palin has more skeletons than halloween.

The only defense to Libel and Slander is the truth! If there is no investigation then your goose is cooked. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Back in the 90's Bill Clinton was accused of murder; literally murder. Almost weekly in the media. Vince Foster's suicide was all over right wing media as a Clinton hit job.

Clinton couldn't or didn't sue...according to you Palin apologists seems Clinton would have had a slam dunk case.

Sarah Palin is an empty headed windbag with a cult following. She aint suing...she couldn't endure what would be exposed in open court.

Dream on

Next up: Sarah Palin sues the "internets"...

BlueHawk --The biggest Palin "slappy"- I confess I don't know what a slappy is-but then I actually have a life independent of the mindless trolling you seem so adept at and therefore am not familiar with all the terminology. Do you have any more quaint troll insider words to use?
Are you a professional skater? I only ask as you seem so adept at skating around and avoiding a direct question.
Look-get a paper bag- put your head between your knees and breathe deeply in and out of the bag for a few seconds-it'll help.
Surprise me now and make some valid point re the topic.

Comment 371...Mr. Jake

Bluehawk sighs "Jake is a rookie"

go do some reading kid...you seem, I say seem really ignorant.

What an intellectual broadside-I'm devastated- as though you have an opinion of import--once again-do you ever answer a direct question?

At least your post makes sense

Thanks.

...BUT

First off...Shannyn Moore has to prove nothing, she's not a prosecutor or policing agency. She's a journalist who claims Sarah Palin commited embezzlement, theft or whatever.

On grounds of case law, you refute yourself. Moore is a journalist. As such, she damn well CAN be sued for libel - in this case, for claiming that Palin is (a) corrupt and (b) under federal investigation for it. We now know (b) is false, so the only thing Moore et al can do to save their collective ass is IMMEDIATELY put up their info on (a), which - I need not remind you - Moore claims to have. That is the only thing that will keep her out of court.

So my question is, has the proof Moore claims she has in her possession already been published somewhere? I'm assuming not but want to make sure.

Secondly...if it went to court Shannyn Moore would be able to testify to WHAT SHE DOES KNOW; and I assure you that Sarah Palin doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to endure that.

You think Palin and her lawyers haven't already considered that? You think the statement they just put out is a bluff? No. Palin is tougher than people generally like to admit, and she does have the legal grounds to sue on this. Besides which - now that word of the possible/probable suit is out, the wisest thing Moore could do is, as I said, data-dump every shred of proof she claims she has on Palin. Which brings me right back to the #1 question in all this: what is the nature of Moore's proof, and has she made it public? If she hasn't she'd better do it FAST, before the suit is actually filed, or she's well and truly toast.

I think perhaps what you refer to as a sigh is actually escaping gas.

Back in the 90's Bill Clinton was accused of murder; literally murder. Almost weekly in the media. Vince Foster's suicide was all over right wing media as a Clinton hit job.

Clinton couldn't or didn't sue...according to you Palin apologists seems Clinton would have had a slam dunk case.

What is the name of the individual or individuals who publicly accused Clinton of conspiracy to murder? I don't mean simply making mention of the rumor (which everyone did), or making jokes about it.

I mean, WHO seriously said Clinton was involved in Foster's murder?

Can't think of any names? Neither can I.

That's why there was no suit.

Comment #374...Heydo...

You're assuming a lot....you wrote...
"On grounds of case law, you refute yourself. Moore is a journalist. As such, she damn well CAN be sued for libel - in this case, for claiming that Palin is (a) corrupt and (b) under federal investigation for it. We now know (b) is false, so the only thing Moore et al can do to save their collective ass is IMMEDIATELY put up their info on (a), which - I need not remind you - Moore claims to have. That is the only thing that will keep her out of court."

How do we KNOW Palin isn't under federal investigation. The Feds are in no way incumbent to disclose who they have under investigation.
I stated earlier about in Detroit where the Feds claimed no one in the city govt. was under investigation; right up until Federal indictments were handed down. The Feds saying they're not investigating Palin means absolutely nothing...hell they could be using docs and evidence that Ms. Moore provided.

And you also wrote...
"You think Palin and her lawyers haven't already considered that? You think the statement they just put out is a bluff? No. Palin is tougher than people generally like to admit, and she does have the legal grounds to sue on this. Besides which - now that word of the possible/probable suit is out, the wisest thing Moore could do is, as I said, data-dump every shred of proof she claims she has on Palin. Which brings me right back to the #1 question in all this: what is the nature of Moore's proof, and has she made it public? If she hasn't she'd better do it FAST, before the suit is actually filed, or she's well and truly toast."

You're damn skippy Palin's lawyers have considered that. That's why you'll never see a Palin lawsuit.
Testimony under oath isn't to Palin's advantage.

Palin is blustering about suing...I assure she aint gonna do it.

At least you're approaching this with your thinking cap on. Thanks...

Comment 376 ...Heydo

I invite you to google the phrase...
Rush Limabugh accuses Bill Clinton of murder

The returns on that search contain more than Rushbo...

You're seriously considering this too, and I appreciate it.

How do we KNOW Palin isn't under federal investigation.

If I'm assuming she's not, then you're assuming just as much by saying she is. One of us is wrong, and time will tell. If I'm wrong, I'll admit. I'm sure you'll do likewise.

hell they could be using docs and evidence that Ms. Moore provided.

Which is? Seriously - direct me to any links you like but all I've heard is that Moore is the point person for having solid "fact" proof that Palin is corrupt, thus guilty of breaking the law. Fine! Has she put out that proof yet? In fact, has she said anything in the past day, since word of this possible action came out? I don't know, steer me where I might.

Testimony under oath isn't to Palin's advantage.

That's pure speculation on your part, unless you yourself have been made party to the proof of corruption. Have you?

Palin is blustering about suing...I assure she aint gonna do it.

Still an assumption on your part. I believe they're not bluffing. They will do it UNLESS Moore pipes up really fast. Face it: she'll have to sooner or later anyway, either now when she might yet prove she didn't libel Palin but told the truth, or later in court where it'll be far, far more embarrassing for her.

Again, do you know if Moore has said anything today on this?

Comment 376 ...Heydo

I invite you to google the phrase...
Rush Limabugh accuses Bill Clinton of murder

The returns on that search contain more than Rushbo...

You mean you don't actually have any names? You mean you just pulled that claim out of your ass? No, if you're that lazy I'm not going to do your googling for you.

Tell you this, though:

I've listened to Limbaugh since the early '90s and I can guarantee you he has said openly that Foster's death was a very unlikely suicide. He also has made vague comments about it later. But Limbaugh has never once claimed the Clintons were in any way responsible for or connected to his death. Limbaugh is many things I don't like, but he is not foolish enough to do that.

Of course, if you care to google it yourself and post links to a soundbite proving he blamed Clinton for it, have at it. Until then, you got nothing.

But that's all beside the point. Palin IS accused PUBLICLY of corruption BY A JOURNALIST, which is actionable in court.

Moore will either prove it or she won't.

If you care to reserach

Comment 379...Actually Heydo...

Last question first...I don't know Ms. Moore and I have no idea what she knows or doesn't know.

The fact is that Ms. Moore has to prove nothing. She has stated her case in her blog. You seem to be mistaken about Ms. Moore's role. Ms. Moore hasn't convicted Palin of anything. Ms. Moore as a journalist presented her evidence in her blogs...if those are wrong I'm SURE Ms. Moore invites Palin to sue....call it an educated guess but Sarah Palin doesn't want to answer Ms. Moore's allegations in court.

RE: Me saying- "Testimony under oath isn't to Sarah Palin's advantage"
I stand by that...Sarah Palin doesn't want to testify under oath by a skilled attorney. You can believe otherwise but it's really naive.

So in the long run...it doesn't matter if Palin is under investigation or not...Ms. Moore or no one else is privy to that information.
2nd- Ms. Palin can sue if she wants...She'll have to answer questions under oath; probing questions. I assure her lawyers highly advise against that.

Comment 380...Heydo...

obviously you didn't google that phrase...

What ? are you scared to ?

The fact is that Ms. Moore has to prove nothing.

Maybe not to you. Alaska case law says otherwise.

You seem to be mistaken about Ms. Moore's role. Ms. Moore hasn't convicted Palin of anything.

Ah-ah, careful, please don't put words in my mouth. I never said Moore "convicted" Palin of anything. Moore DID accuse Palin of corruption, which is perfectly actionable, like it or not. Moore will have to prove that claim or she'll lose.

Ms. Moore as a journalist presented her evidence in her blogs...if those are wrong I'm SURE Ms. Moore invites Palin to sue....call it an educated guess but Sarah Palin doesn't want to answer Ms. Moore's allegations in court.

I disagree. Three reasons:

If Palin is guilty of corruption and is under investigation (IOW, if Moore is telling the truth and can prove it), then

1. Palin no doubt has long since caught wind of the investigation, which most here seem to assume is why she resigned (despite the FBI's denials). In that casae, the smartest thing she could do is take a looooooong vacation with the kids, lay low, and just wait for the bricks to fall on her because, publicly, she's done. But she's not taking that path - she's apparently gearing up to do the exact opposite.

2. even if she's not under investigation, BUT IS CORRUPT, the stupidest thing they could possibly do is sue someone who claims to have proof of that very corruption.

3. Bluffing about suing, then not following through, can have just one result: Palin is forever marked by her followers as a loon, even though she clearly wants to continue her public career in some capacity.

For these reasons, I say this is not a bluff - Moore has really stepped in it and Palin's side knows it can prove it.

BTW: Do you know what Moore's blog is called? I googled it and it came here...thought it was this place but now seeing it's not. It's been nice here, but I gots to go now.

RE: Me saying- "Testimony under oath isn't to Sarah Palin's advantage"
I stand by that...Sarah Palin doesn't want to testify under oath by a skilled attorney. You can believe otherwise but it's really naive.

Again, just think about it a second. If Palin knows she's guilty of what Moore claims, suing Moore over those very allegations is beyond stupid. It's suicidal. Write Palin off as dumb as you want to - her lawyers and associates are not and would never let that happen. They'd be quite embarrassed too.

Comment 383...Heydo...

You're mistaken again ...
Moore doesn't have to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt. She's not a prosecuting attorney. She's a journalist who has documented her reasoning for accusing Ms. Palin of fraud, corruption or whatever.

That's all a journalist needs...

You're taking this way out into the cornfield...it's simple. Ms. Moore's blogs and writing are her evidence...she's laid out why she accused Palin of fraud.

Maybe you should read some of Ms. Moore's writing about Sarah Palin and her house...do some investigation on your own...it's all public record.

Then tell me what case Sarah Palin has...

"Ms. Moore's writings and her blogs are her evidence..."

Huh?? I have seen tablid stories that claim President Obama has been cheating on Micelle, or that he is secretly gey. So isn't that "evidence", just because somebody wrote it?

Your claim that Shannon has "evidence" simply becuase she wrote it makes no sense whatsoever.

Comment 385...Heydo...

Well Heydo...then Palin should have no problem suing the nose hairs off of Shannyn Moore...
right ?

Let's watch her do it...

Hold your breath for it...

you'll be gasping for air soon...

Sarah Palin doesn't want to go to court...too much poop under her- carpets for Sarah Palin to have to testify under oath.

But keep dreamin'

I find it interesting...that under threat of lawsuit Shannyn Moore hasn't retracted any statements she's made against Sarah Palin...
Shannyn Moore hasn't admitted any wrongdoing or offered any apologies...Ms. Moore's Palin story is still at the top of this page unchanged.

One would get the impression that Shannyn Moore would LOVE for Sarah Palin to sue and get Palin in open court under oath.

I'm beginning to think that this is akin to the juvenile school boy who pulls the hair of the girl he secretly admires and dips it in the inkwell because he is confused by his own feelings. This is over the top obsessive. Come on now fess up you really have fantasies about Palin don't you? How very frustrating it must be.

This is the weekend news dump remember? Applies to Moore as well as to Palin-lets see what the coming week brings. Can you contain yourself that long?

Youngster Jake...

retractions aren't restricted to 9-5 Monday thru Friday son.

I guarantee you that Ms. Moore can update her website any time if she were concerned about a lawsuit she would have done it by now.
Or...
Do you think we know about a possible Palin lawsuit and Shannyn Moore doesn't ?

You're new to this aren't you ?

Do you actually think about what you wrote before you hit the submit button ?
or do you just blurt whatever is opposite to what I said...you know; like a kneejerker

From Shannon Moore's website...dated July 5th...

her last line and I quote...
"Sarah Palin, if you have a problem with me, then sue me. Shannyn Moore will not be muzzled!"

http://shannynmoore.wordpress.com/