John,

The link to "Reluctantly withdrawing support to HR 811" brings up:

well, this post has been misconstrued by a few people with selective editing to have wider implications than it does. So, I'm withdrawing it. Please don't twist what I say to your advantage.

(Your Link). Who did they mean to cast aspersion upon ... or did they?

There will be many comings and goings in the wake of no legislation to improve the electronic voting machine landscape.

A result the EI movement has wrought. I mean really, there were movement folk in the same throng as the vendors. We "had to destroy it in order to save it" comes to mind.

Let the electronic voting machine escape begin with "I didn't do it ..."

And the other link tends to perpetuate the old and getting older myth about Feinstein and Holt's bill being bicamerally linked:

Both bills (S 1487, HR 811) seek to update the 2002 Help America Vote Act (PL 107-252), which provided funding for new electronic voting machines after problems arose in Florida during the 2000 presidential contest.

This ignores the reality that H.R. 811 and S. 1487 are not linked bi-camerally.

The truth, not that anyone in that bowel movement gives a shit, is that HR 811 and S. 559 are the bicameral compliments to one other in the House and the Senate.

Dredd, nothing will be done about e-voting through those bills anyway except that e-voting and its corporate masters will be permanently grafted onto the American democratic process beyond retreival.

You can (and you will) post paen after paen to all the (questionable) wonders that (some past version) of Holt II (might have) perform(ed), and you can (and you will) repeatedly issue (thinly veiled) e-voting apologia piled upon (rarely substantive) EI movement recrimination... and none of it will change the fact that these bills as they stand now are bad bills crafted to hold corporate interests paramount over the public welfare.

Blaming the EI movement for Holt's caving to such corporate interests (assuming that such caving wasn't planned from the beginning) overlooks his own culpability in not thoroughly researching his project enough beforehand and accepting public feedback afterwards. Feedback that would have enabled him to craft a bll that could have resisted further corporate intrusion into the public sphere.

Holt chose not to listen to any advice that would have seriously interfered with a corporate mandate for public elections, and then he acted in a flat-out deceptive manner when questioned on what was happening.

You cannot blame the EI community for Holt's apparent determination to kneel before the corporations (but you will).

Our Caller, who art on the stack frame
Hallowed be thy Parameters
Thy Address Space come
Thy I/O be done
In Registers, as it is in Memory
Give us this day our periodic timeslices
And forgive us our page faults
As we forgive those who pass invalid parameters
Lead us not to unconditional JMPs
But deliver us from segment registers
For thine is the Address Space, the Registers, and the I/O ports
Jmp $
Ret

Author: Matt Pietrek, 1998

Puss,

When you were still in diapers, or thereabouts, the EI movement was using the same observations, the gummit was preaching the same obvious and unchanging reality, as the EVM Maytag Repairman did his thang.

You may hiss all you want, but your apologetics are the elephant in the room, and the blind men arguments to the contrary will not convert the elephant into the blind men's want-driven archeology posing as vision.

Our Silicone, who art connected by pll chip risers
Hallowed be thy doping
Thy logic come
Thy electrons done
In Elections, as it is in EVM fraud
Give us this day our tabulators
And forgive us our tabulation errors
As we forgive those who have mini-bar keys
Lead us not to hidden logic
But deliver us from specially crafted hardware
For thine is the Courts, the fastrack Swear In, and the delayed EVM lawsuits with a slap on the hand
+5VDC
+0VDC

nappy,
Blink...you think to much of needless things.

When you think of the long and gloomy history of man, you will find more hideous crimes have been committed in the name of obedience than have ever been committed in the name of rebellion.

C. P. Snow

Release today at 2:00pm
The above link says they will release the top-to-bottom review at 2:00pm today.
FYI

... 2:30pm still waiting ...no review

PDF's are sure annoying.

3:05PM no docs yet.

I take it, you have to be physically at the building 1500 11th street?

it's up!
http://www.sos.ca.gov/el...ctions/elections_vsr.htm