Zogby was quoted on NPR on November 10th when Pam Fessler gave her report on "voting Myths" --- I don't the exact quote here (go to All Things Considered, NPR, archives, it might be there). The bottom line was that he was *swayed* (my term) by the actual vote tallies --- and at the time, was not up in arms over the fact that the exit polls and the final votes were so off. I remember this vaguely, and have reference to his stand in the letter I wrote to them that night.

I think there was an actual interview with Zogby around this time on Teri Gross or perhaps NPR Morning Edition, too, though it's possible I could have dreamed it *smile*

I'm glad that he's come around. I really feel so many different outlets were just trying to "put this to bed" in order to "keep the peace."

For what it's worth I (and thousands of others) --- emailed about Fessler's "report" that night, --- and Thursday morning they read some of these, and more importantly, Friday, the 12th she did have a report on the electronic machines going for Bush when Kerry was chosen in Youngstown.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/ has the video clip of the Olbermann segment with Zogby!
Great work Brad. Let's find a whistle blower already!

On 11/2, Drudge printed a list of states that Kerry was ahead in via exit polls. He was ahead 57-43% in Florida. It was only on the Drudge Report for about 5 minutes because the exit poll was done using 60% women and 40% men. We know that white women vote more Democrat while white men (non-Jewish) vote more Republican. You cannot take an exit poll of 60-40 and call Kerry a winner. That's like taking 60% Liberal Demcrats and 40% Conservative Republicans and saying that Kerry won. It was a bad exit poll!

What about all of those polls before the election like at realclearpolitics.com that had Bush ahead by 2-3% in the poll averages? All of those poll averages were right. At least two pre-election polls that favored Kerry, had to admit that they used more Democrats than Republicans. That is a bad poll too!

Pundits are constantly talking about the exit poll data indicating the top topics of morals and Iraq and National Security which are all topics that Bush scores higher in than Kerry. Which exit polls are one to believe?

I agree with Dick Morris, the exit polls were rigged to help Kerry.

Paul said (mistakenly as usual):
"the exit poll was done using 60% women and 40% men"

You are wrong. But I encourage you to show us evidence for your claim.

"Pundits are constantly talking about the exit poll data indicating the top topics of morals and Iraq and National Security which are all topics that Bush scores higher in than Kerry. Which exit polls are one to believe?"

I supposed it's your choice. You can choose to "believe" the exit polls that were altered after the fact to match up with the election results. (And misinterpreted to overweight the generic notion of "morals", which any further examination --- even by wingnuts --- shows to be completely over/misinterpreted)

Or, like so many of your wingnut brethren you can pick and choose to believe *only* the information you care to believe is correct (like "values voters" made the difference), but ignore all the rest of the data (like Kerry won).

"I agree with Dick Morris, the exit polls were rigged to help Kerry."

Beyond the lack of proof for this notion that Morris offers (he offers none), I guess you'll also ignore Morris' statement that "exit polls are extremely accurate".

If you are to believe Morris, as you are want to because he supports what you'd like to believe, then you also have to believe that the polls were all wrong on the "value voters" etc.

Instead, what you should be doing, is joining those of us who are in favor of democracy and the transparency it requires, by calling for the full release of the actual raw Exit Polling data so we can examine both it and it's methodology instead of guessing --- as you have --- as to which part of it is accurate (because you like it) and which part isn't (because you don't).