Absolutely right, and the more people pointing it out, the better.

Brad, I was especially intrigued by Judge Napolitano's statement that "Vincent Bugliosi has, amassed an incredible amount of evidence...."

Judge Napolitano is referring to Bugliosi's work in The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder in which Bugliosi argues that state court's have jurisdiction for the murder of its citizens who served and died in Iraq by reason of Bush having lied to Congress and the American people in order to initiate that war of aggression.

Bugliosi argues in the book that there is no statute of limitations for murder; that Bush, Cheney et al therefore continue to face criminal jeopardy--this despite President Obama's refusal to hold the Bush/Cheney cabal accountable for their alleged crimes with the nonsensical, we can only look forward and not back.

Imagine how different the political outlook would have been for today's Democratic Party if Obama had ever really intended to bring "change we can believe in" by way of (a) the immediate end to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, (b) restoration of the rule of law by immediate trials not only for those detained on nothing more than suspicion but of those who ordered their torture, (c) single-payer healthcare, (d) a defense of ACORN against the scurrilous right wing attack, (d) meaningful media reform that rolls back corporate consolidation and control of the airwaves, (e) fundamental changes in energy policies in which solar, wind, geothermal and wave power would replace carbon-based policies, and (f) a bevy of truly progressive policies designed to end corporate control of our politics and our economy.

Instead, we've not only experienced a betrayal of "change we can believe in" with respect to policies but with regard to the rule of law where many have, for example, continued to languish in the very unlawful detentions that Judge Napolitano now rightly condemns Bush and Cheney for.

And because progressives in Congress caved, time and again, to the Obama sell out, they now face the prospect of a possible loss of control of the House as the woefully uninformed are taken in by the same billionaire funded movement that brought us the lawless, Bush/Cheney cabal and economic disaster.

and he's wrong about lying not being a crime
it is a felony to lie to Congress
i know you remember this one, Brad:
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/5

And of course he leaves out lots of other felonies
http://tinyurl.com/27q3nra

talk is cheap ,nothing will come of this .Its becoming clear that depending on who does the crime in America only the victims pay. Look at the death of JFK ,his brother ,Iran-Contra,OJ,Gary Webb,911 ,Raymond Lemme,Iraq and Afghanistan. No criminal pays .

"WMD claims were lies says former envoy"

Then the next site I visit has this ...

"Britain was taken to war in Iraq on the basis of “lies”, scaremongering and deliberate exaggeration, a former UK diplomat told the Iraq inquiry.

Carne Ross claimed that Britain and the United States privately did not believe that Iraq's weapons programmes posed a “substantial threat” before launching the 2003 invasion. "

http://www.independent.c...ormer-envoy-2024868.html

You know what will happen now that the truth is "out"...NOTHING !

I read Bugliosi's book in summer '08 - the argument for prosecution, indictment, conviction, was made clear. The fact that Napolitano waits until now, 2 years later, makes his motives highly suspect (I don't know what they are, but is he actually trying to get A's.G. to bring a case, or is he just trying to make a buck?) Isn't this the same Napolitano that Shep Smith just called out for some bullshit or other regarding BPs culpability?

I believe Bugliosi said he would offer his full legal expertise pro bono if some AG somewhere would move the case forward. Is Napolitano making the same offer?

... mick said on 7/12/2010 @ 5:49 pm PT...

talk is cheap ,nothing will come of this .Its becoming clear that depending on who does the crime in America only the victims pay. Look at the death of JFK ,his brother ,Iran-Contra,OJ,Gary Webb,911 ,Raymond Lemme,Iraq and Afghanistan. No criminal pays .

Well of course no one will pay because it is all the same person who did them all. George HW Bush worked in the CIA while owning war/oil/Wall street/banking contractor since the 50s. You also forgot that he impeached Nixon for ending Vietnam and killed JFK (or Marilyn as a warning shot), RFK, and MLK. GHWB has bought everyone including selling Dianne Feinstein a defense contractor to get her vote in 2004. You also forgot that he impeached Clinton for not going after Saddam or now Gore also or that he had bribed Nancy Pelosi with a picture of her in a lesbian photo to stop the investigation (Brad ran that). Or the fact that I saw a picture of Obama on the front page of the same rag that busted Clinton with a picture of a girl Obama slept with for 1 days. Obviously a message to Obama that they have dirt on him aswell. GHWB does have paid informants everywhere in thge government. All the wars have benefitted GHWB financially since the WW2. How will it get done? Bush's father was a guy named Prescott who made his money off Hitler during WW2 and bribed his way to senator. Until they hang we are going to continue to have wars for Bush/Cheney gain.

easy ta say that now, Possum Puss !

Looks like Fox News will be looking for a new legal analyst --- one who supports torture and mass murder.

Does anybody know what Alan Dershowitz is doing these days?

Uncle George was right. TV's like a sewer. Every once in a while, a diamond ring pops out.

Anyone who has picked up Nation of Sheep, an idictment of the USA Patriot Act by the same Andrew Napolitano, knows he is a principled civil libertarian who believes in the rule of law. Some of his policy views are wingnutty in a Rand Paul way, but to his credit he never seemed to fit in with the neocon tribe at FOX Noise.

When I first read this I thought he said these things on Fox. That would have made some loyal viewers heads explode or at least triple check the channel they are on.

Lies The Government Told You
by
Andrew Napolitano
interviewed by
Ralph Nader
on
C SPAN

And the corporate media periodically reinforces the biggest lie we've been told to years: that 9/11 was a terrorist attack. If it was a terrorist attack then why the hell was there not a full and complete, publibly aired, investigation? And why were the twin towers demolished after the Port Authority refused to allow the fast deteriorating towers to be leveled? And why was a 47 storey tower housing the SEC and other Federal Agencies leveled? And why was Bush and his puppet master Cheney allowed to speak in private with the white-washing 9/11 commision whilst not under oath nor were note taking allowed? Was it really national security, or was it a gigantic CYA for the neocon criminals. Obama has hitched his wagon to the wrong train, his refusal to change course and prosecute these out-and-out criminals will damage him and he'll be seen as part of the problem.

Contract up for sure! This is shocking to hear from Napolitano! Trouble is, if we lock those two up, we might as well lock up everyone who takes these offices, what a mess!

You might, however, want to take note that none of this has changed since Obama was elected. In fact it has been vigorously defended as policy. Guantanamo moves to Bagram, otherwise unchanged. Everything else? Still in place.

A sad clue as to how little this will impact our national discussion/action taken is the fact that the Book TV piece with Ralph Nader interviewing Judge Napolitano was actually aired on June 2. In a sane world there would have been headlines in all the leading "news"papers the nest day, endless commentary on cable, etc.

I assume, Brad, you saw this on Rawstory yesterday. Not sure how it could languish in the ether for forty days and forty nights but is is telling. And it does make my constant battle against pessimism even tougher still.

I agree with some others, if we really want criminals to see justice we must confront and expose the Mother Lode: 911 Truth.

If you accept that challenge it means getting out from in front of your computer however. Making contacts in your community w/like minded people. Getting in the streets. And telling ALL your friends, family, co-workers about the overwhelming evidence for inside job. We cannot count on the likes of Katie Curic to inform our fellow citizens, even as they expect she would. Not even the almost palatable Rachel and Keith are allowed to broach the Mother Lode,

We really must become the media, now.

CamusRebel said:

I assume, Brad, you saw this on Rawstory yesterday. Not sure how it could languish in the ether for forty days and forty nights but is is telling. And it does make my constant battle against pessimism even tougher still.

No. Actually, we had it up before RAW did. I was pointed to it by a reader who caught ThinkProgress' posting of it to YouTube before TP even had it up on their blog. (Added the hat-tip to TP after they finally got their version up).

I had checked, before publishing here, with C-SPAN for when it had aired, to make sure it wasn't old. Their listing, as linked in the original article above, shows that it aired on July 11th --- which was presumably the first time. Not sure where your source of June 3 was (not that I doubt you, was just unaware of it).

Andrew Napolitano can kiss my ass! Leave Bush and Cheney alone!

Joe Nagle, dude, how did you even get here? Did you take a wrong turn at Albuquerque?? I think you were looking for fascistbootlickers.com

Brad, following the link @ Crooksandliars for the story took me to the CSPAN video archive where the date says 6/2/10. 9B41D

Obviously most readers here follow their orders and refuse to watch FoxNews so that they are unaware that Judge Napolitano has ALWAYS and vociferously opposed the Patriot Act and has accused us of violating our own laws by using torture. (Among other violations of the laws and Constitution)

And rather than being in danger of being fired by Fox, Fox has given him his own hour-long show, Freedom Watch, every Saturday on the Fox BUSINESS channel at 10AM, which repeats later that day then twice on Sunday. Tune him in to hear more of the same defense of the Constitution and limited government.

There's no orders David. It's called mutual disgust. Mutual disgust at the lies and fabrications allowed to pass as "news" and "news opinion" by the Fox personalities, Megyn Kelly, Hannity, Beck, O'Reilly, et el...

It's not the conservative slant. We could live with conservative slant as long as it's done with honesty and integrity. But neither of those exist at Fox.

No..."orders" per se, we just find Fox's lies to be disgusting.

I hope that clarifies things for you.

"Why did a flurry of blue blogs all of a sudden jump on a story that was old news? It seems Judge Andrew Napolitano, FNC’s Senior Judicial Analyst, opined that Bush and Cheney should have been indicted. This immediately spread all over the interwebs. Why? Because Think Progress [mentioned]* it, and the echo chamber sticks together. Here are some of the gems we spotted:"

* http://thinkprogress.org.../napolitano-bush-indict/

"Where to begin? His contract is over? He’s going to be fired? On the contrary, Judge Nap’s role at Fox is growing. He is their Senior Judicial Analyst. In addition to providing analysis on programming throughout the broadcast day, he has just finished a multi-year run co-hosting three hours of radio a day. The Judge just began his [new program]* on Fox Business Network, which immediately zoomed to #1 on the FBN ratings chart. Plus he continues to serve as substitute host on Glenn Beck and other programs."

* http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/freedom-watch/

"And then there’s the claim that he’s a “reliable right wing source”, which newshound Priscilla parroted from Think Progress. This is either rampant ignorance on her part, or deliberate dishonesty (and since this is Prissy it could go either way). Here are a few examples of the “reliable right wing” positions of Judge Andrew Napolitano:"
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Judge Nap on Gitmo.
http://homepage.mac.com/...0060629160606/index.html
Judge Nap on domestic spying.
http://homepage.mac.com/...0070105154214/index.html
Judge Nap on The Patriot Act.
http://homepage.mac.com/...57/E242992868/index.html
Judge Nap on gay marriage.
http://homepage.mac.com/...0060605130653/index.html
Judge Nap on torture.
http://video.foxnews.com...9135&w=600&h=374
Judge Nap on executive authority.
http://homepage.mac.com/...0070730113825/index.html
Judge Nap on George Bush.
http://homepage.mac.com/...0071031200132/index.html
Judge Nap on the arrest of Prof Gates.
http://video.foxnews.com...6968&w=600&h=374
Judge Nap on Alberto Gonzales.
http://homepage.mac.com/...0070827112647/index.html
Judge Nap on FISA.
http://homepage.mac.com/...0070119113951/index.html
Judge Nap on the Arizona immigration law
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqe-J2S3esw
Judge Nap on enemy combatants.
http://homepage.mac.com/...0070612102534/index.html
Judge Nap on Sarah Palin.
http://homepage.mac.com/...s/blog/tdo242065315.html
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"Those are some “reliable right wing” positions, aren’t they? Now we said from the get-go that Napolitano’s position on George Bush was old news, and it is. Here is The Judge [in 2005]* arguing that George Bush broke the law. Here he is [last year]** making the case to indict George Bush. And what happened to the Judge after speaking out? He didn’t apologize. He wasn’t yanked off the air. He didn’t get fired. They gave him his own show! So much for the dunderheads who insisted he’d never say this stuff on Fox."

* http://homepage.mac.com/...0051218212054/index.html
** http://video.foxnews.com...0195&w=600&h=374
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