READER COMMENTS ON
"Rep. Weiner to Scarborough: Health Care is Not a Commodity!"
(30 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Andrew Thomson
said on 8/23/2009 @ 12:24 pm PT...
Poor Mika, she sits in cowed silence as the men work out the problems of the world, only able to pitch in on the relationship analysis section. How stereotypical.
Meanwhile Joe evades and dodges, pretending to be the voice of moderate conservative reason, even as he shouts down his guest every time a substantive point begins to be made, and yet he is stumped into silence, unable to answer any of the challenges put to him.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
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barracuda78
said on 8/23/2009 @ 12:26 pm PT...
Incentive for medical care to treat and bring people to complete health can be missing if there is a loss of income because the patient is no longer needing care...the state of health of a large percentage of Americans is for the most part
dismal...I work in the health care field and see what western medicine can do or does not do to bring people to complete health...I do not have health insurance, I am a certified herbalist/licensed massage therapist and can take care of myself and others using herbs and essential oils Many of the treatments/surgeries that my clients receive are ineffective. Americans are taught to go to the doctor for a hangnail without considering that maybe this doesn't require a doctor. I remember as a kid we had a neighbor lady who was kind of the neighborhood witch doctor and she would make up concoctions to treat various health problems I see people everyday who have been caught in the sticky web of western medicine, often floundering for months,years until a doctor finally decides what they have and how to treat it. I see people not being taught how to care for themselves but to be dependent upon inadequate medical care, all for a profit.
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tom hoser
said on 8/23/2009 @ 1:39 pm PT...
When the congressman puts it in that succinct NY no bullshit question "What are we getting for our 30 per cent?" he really hits the nail right on the head! He might just be one of the few that works for us not the drug or insurance companies.
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BlueHawk
said on 8/23/2009 @ 2:13 pm PT...
"Scarborough did pose one intriguing question. "What’s the value of Wall Street companies making money?"
Scarborough demonstrated with that question who he's actually speaking-working for...Wall Street.
Scarborough's show isn't to inform and discuss...It's to indoctrinate his listeners to Wall Street's point of view; like what's good for Wall Street is good for the average American...BULLSHIT!
I have yet to see Wall Street's prosperity ever benefit Main Street or the middle class American.
Walmart's prosperity kills Joe's Hardware on Main Street...
Best Buy's prosperity kills the computer-electronics guy trying to eek out a living with his shop living around the corner. Dole and big agra are killing the local produce growers...
What's the value of Wall Street making money ?
No value to me at all...
American's would be better off if Wall Street didn't exist. Someone would then start a local neighborhood bank...that bank would loan money responsibly to folks it knows in the community. Those folks would then start businesses to serve the community they live in...an economic cycle that breeds true prosperity for all.
The Federal Reserve and Wall Street...treasonous serpents who have robbed us blind.
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Ernest A. Canning
said on 8/23/2009 @ 2:21 pm PT...
BlueHawk wrote:
Scarborough did pose one intriguing question. "What’s the value of Wall Street companies making money?"
Scarborough demonstrated with that question who he's actually speaking-working for...Wall Street.
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Perhaps. Or it could mean that the real title for Scarboro's Morning Joe show should be, Clueless at MSNBC.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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BlueHawk
said on 8/23/2009 @ 3:27 pm PT...
That describes it well Mr. Canning...
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Dolphyn
said on 8/23/2009 @ 3:47 pm PT...
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 8/23/2009 @ 4:18 pm PT...
Wouldn't be interesting if if Wall St was outlawed like gambling used to be?
The fat fucks would actually have to produce something tangible before they could earn a profit?.
We'd have a lot more wall street whiners looking for the Government option I think.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 8/23/2009 @ 4:40 pm PT...
Ah, Flo... you beautiful dreamer you!
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Tunga
said on 8/23/2009 @ 6:09 pm PT...
Skippys assertion that a "free market " can be equated with Capitalism is fallacy.
As a National of the united States the Tunga can no more be liable to pay federal insurance premiums than the ones he dispenses with in the face off fraudulent Internal Revenue slander.
Free thinking people will see through your attempt to incite.
Your retarded thinking does serve the purpose of awakening the People born upon the land of the freely associated compact states who know that a lot more than 18,000 US citizens per day will perish if the fiat slave state collapses.
Are you sure your bunk in the bunker is still reserved?
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Tunga
said on 8/23/2009 @ 6:20 pm PT...
Barracuda right on!
Western medicine seeks only to treat maladies, disease and sickness.
Cures are the exclusive province of healers and the self aware.
Damn those free thinkers! Always screwing up the "SYSTEM".
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 8/23/2009 @ 6:30 pm PT...
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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BlueHawk
said on 8/24/2009 @ 6:06 am PT...
Tunga...Comment #11
I take it you're a healer and you are TEACHING those with maladies and sicknesses to heal themselves and hence become healers like you.
Cures (healing) are not the *exclusive* province of anyone, they can't or shouldn't be bought and sold like commodities; they are the shared responsibility of all sentient thinking empathetic human beings...
But free thinkers already know this...you sound more like a puffed up braggart, who can't cure his own sense of self delusion. But then I'm sure your self awareness already had that insight and you were just joshing us ?
yes ?
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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BlueHawk
said on 8/24/2009 @ 6:57 am PT...
Comment @13.....please pardon my redundancy...
I used the term "sentient thinking"
when sentient sufficed....
That bugged me...
proof reading is a valued skill....
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 8/24/2009 @ 7:14 am PT...
Tunga reminds me of Tonga (Denny Miller) in "Our Vines Have Tender Apes"...Go figure, lol
Or was it Kam Fong as Chin Ho?
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Tunga
said on 8/24/2009 @ 9:03 am PT...
BlueHawk #13 there is none so blind as those who will not see.
Doctors treat because there is no profit in cures.
But your obfuscation serves to further incite what?
More ignorance? Masterful.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Tunga
said on 8/24/2009 @ 10:34 am PT...
Thanks 99, you're humble and lovable.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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BlueHawk
said on 8/24/2009 @ 11:15 am PT...
Tunga...Comment #16
Doctors treat because there is no profit in cures.
You're kind of one track minded aren't you ?
Have you ever read the hippocractic oath ?
Doctors while making a good living for sure; don't practice medicine *for profit*... They treat illness and alleviate suffering.
Now...Health reform while the present focus is on how care is funded; true health reform would focus on holistically and pre-emptively learning how to live healthy existences. Personally I think doctors treat because it's all they've learned to do.
For your information...doctors make a living...private health insurance companies make a profit.
You seem to have the two confused
Your comment # 11 said..
Barracuda right on!
Western medicine seeks only to treat maladies, disease and sickness.
Cures are the exclusive province of healers and the self aware.
Damn those free thinkers! Always screwing up the "SYSTEM".
My reply comment # 13 said..
Tunga...Comment #11
I take it you're a healer and you are TEACHING those with maladies and sicknesses to heal themselves and hence become healers like you.
Cures (healing) are not the *exclusive* province of anyone, they can't or shouldn't be bought and sold like commodities; they are the shared responsibility of all sentient thinking empathetic human beings...
But free thinkers already know this...you sound more like a puffed up braggart, who can't cure his own sense of self delusion. But then I'm sure your self awareness already had that insight and you were just joshing us ?
yes ?
Please point me to the "obfuscation" in my reply sir...or should I post for you the definition of *obfuscation* for you.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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BlueHawk
said on 8/24/2009 @ 11:23 am PT...
But hey!...Tunga has it all figured out. He's smarter than Einstein, he cures his own cancer and leaps tall buildings while making a profit...or do the buildings profit because he leapt them ?
And us poor saps just muddle along...
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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BlueHawk
said on 8/24/2009 @ 11:35 am PT...
By the way Tunga...
Maybe you should read barracuda78's comment #2 again...
You mangled it. You completely recreated it for your own purposes.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Dolphyn
said on 8/24/2009 @ 2:17 pm PT...
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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Human
said on 8/24/2009 @ 6:09 pm PT...
Save Medicare
HR676
I love my Grandma
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 8/25/2009 @ 4:18 am PT...
New meme to try out as the (some of) Dems try to pass healthcare, the Repubs try to pass hellscare.
If you likey, spread it around
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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BlueHawk
said on 8/25/2009 @ 5:47 am PT...
Floridiot...
*hellscare*....very nice. I will pass it around.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 8/25/2009 @ 6:10 pm PT...
Lol BlueHawk, I threw it out there and now we have:
Single Prayer Hellscare
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 8/25/2009 @ 6:20 pm PT...
The man who brought us Tush Lumpboil has now topped himself with Single Prayer Hellscare! OMG, Flo, you're really good at this!
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 8/25/2009 @ 6:29 pm PT...
Somehow 99, we gotta get Howie Dean to use this meme
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 8/25/2009 @ 6:45 pm PT...
Yes. And I gotta figure out how to catch back up with him, what's happening with him, where, and I'll work on him about it for sure. I have griped for a while now about him being screwed and I wonder if it has taught him something about trying to play by the rules yet. The guy's got the stuff, but he seems to keep choking right at the point where he might actually succeed. I know that they have choked him before he can ever succeed, but I've also seen him choking right before they choke him a couple times now, and I'm hoping he's learning his lessons... hoping he decides not to choke or be choked anymore.....
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Tunga
said on 8/28/2009 @ 2:05 pm PT...
Blueballs, Tunga agrees with you when you say doctors TREAT because that is what they have been taught.
Barracuda says TREATments prescribed by western medical practitioners is ineffectual.
It's OK if the ultrasonagrapher tells the patient eating dairy products cause a gall bladder to go into convulsions but if a doctor says it s/he could be sued by the dairy industry.
You're covering for the status quo when you pretend not to understand this difference.
That is obfuscation to the Tunga. Perhaps you think of it as parsing your speech. Same Same.
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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fiona
said on 8/28/2009 @ 6:13 pm PT...
People are thinking that Scarborough is "thick" and "poor little Mika" is cowed, MSNBC is "clueless"... Scarborough is FAKE thick. His job is to say whatever disinforms people for $$$. Mika is there to create the old good cop/bad cop schtick, but do your homework re: who she is (clue: who's her daddy?) MSNBC is a disinformation broadcasting station, not to be trusted, same as FOX and CNN. The factions in MSM that appear to be opposed to each other really are not. It's all part of a big game to keep the citizenry politically divided. Because when they have a 50/50 split, then NOBODY can get ANYTHING except the rich elite. People, wake up. It's all a show. Kabuki theater. They're all just minions of the elite, manipulating opinions and facts to serve their masters for $$$.