READER COMMENTS ON
"You Too Can Have a Ball Hanging With Tea Baggers!"
(40 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Bamboo Harvester
said on 4/11/2009 @ 5:43 pm PT...
Stern listeners nevva missa joke . . .
Teabagging
Tea baggers, tea bag a frialator ...
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COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
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another joe
said on 4/11/2009 @ 6:17 pm PT...
I don't know what all the fuss is - if the party of that gave a homosexual prostitute, jeff gannon/guckert fake press credentials and allowed him to come and go as he saw fit on overnights...
And the party of "wide stance" larry craig want to put testicles in their mouths...
Why is this news?
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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the zapkitty
said on 4/11/2009 @ 6:31 pm PT...
No no no... you misunderstand!
First they're going to make us into teabaggers then they're going to make us marry a teabagger...
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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another joe
said on 4/11/2009 @ 6:46 pm PT...
I still don't get it - as long as these are consenting adults putting each other's testicles into their mouths, why should dems be concerned?
Shouldn't the real question be: What homosexual acts are Obama and the dems going to publicly perform in order to demonstrate that they also support gays?
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Adrian
said on 4/11/2009 @ 7:36 pm PT...
I think that the serious point is being missed that the Republicans want to put out imagery that questions Obama's masculinity and sexuality. This whole exercise is just a series of codewords. We all know that, so why don't we confront them on their own terms and fucking get mad at these assholes rather than laughing along with their supposed naivety? Sometimes - most times with the republicans, jokes and supposed slips of the tongue are acts of concerted politics. Between this and Glen Beck... I look around and its as if we've forgotten already that the last eight years have even happened! Haven't we learned these lessons already?
c-mon Brad, let's get back to business!!!
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 4/11/2009 @ 9:34 pm PT...
Well, I am way radically not a Republican, but I definitely question his manhood. I also don't understand how people can object to the use of certain colorful epithets, in print or on the air, when they will read and write and speak about this filthy stuff without turning a hair. The fact is: Obama is doing as bad a job as * did, and in many ways worse. Who cares what the Republicans are yimmering about?
Pay attention to what's going on with our Constitution, what President Glib Cinderella is doing to it. Pay attention to Obama widening the girth of plutocrats while Americans get thrown out of their jobs and homes. Pay attention to the brown people he is murdering and helping to murder.
Snap out of it.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Gos
said on 4/11/2009 @ 9:52 pm PT...
Agent 99 for prez in '12!
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Lora
said on 4/12/2009 @ 9:21 am PT...
The fact is: Obama is doing as bad a job as * did, and in many ways worse.
Surely you jest. While our current elected inhabitant of the White House clearly has disappointed, just imagine for a moment if Shrub had somehow maintained his presidency up until now. Even imagine if McTeabag had been elected last year. Where would we be now? Far worse would have been committed in our country's name, I guarantee.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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bob
said on 4/12/2009 @ 9:29 am PT...
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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TinkyWinky
said on 4/12/2009 @ 9:46 am PT...
It sure is funny, but it's also interesting in a way - I was just listening to an episode of The Joan Kenley Show (progressive Bay Area podcast) called The Media: What’s True, What’s Not that addressed how the right-wing corporate media will use catch phrases (like "socialism") and single-line branding to manipulate the information we hear. After getting in touch with all the ways that's worked for them, it's kinda nice to see this entry about a way it clearly is working against them!
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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czaragorn
said on 4/12/2009 @ 10:09 am PT...
Hey Bob (nice handle btw) - thanks for that link. Pretty much nails the whole thang. Pity that O'Bummer and his masters are allergic to that topic. That Dane is way cool...
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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michelle l.
said on 4/12/2009 @ 11:02 am PT...
The tea-bagging movement is a coward's way of false-threatening revolution in a cutsie-kind-of-way. This country has become a nation of cowards, wimps and whiners, and there's probably not one tea-bagger who wouldn't buddy up to those running this kleptocracy if they thought there was some money there.
The media is just happy to contain the rant, and therefore control the masses. The media is, afterall the fourth branch of this government, and the same money that elects politicians steers the news. It isn't just Fox news.
None of the MSM are reporting the likes of ongoing mafia trials or ongoing Jack Abramoff corruption, because if they were Americans would be informed. Most Americans never heard the name Abramoff–– well-heeled-in with Rove and the rest.
Why didn't they put Abramoff's trials on tv like they did O.J. Simpson, or Anna Nichole's dilemma? Because it might expose some of Abramoff's friends, associates, and conspirators? Who's ever heard of Kyle Foggo or Duke Cunningham?
And while Americans whine and complain, lose their jobs and homes, those running the banks, the criminals in charge are laughing all the way to the deposit box. Privatization began before Reagan when the railroad managers & execs. moved in and ran the trains during the strike.
Reagan followed firing air traffic controllers. Clinton initiated NAFTA, and then Bush began the privatization that's eventually going to sell out the country and structures to American and foreign investors to create their privatized global strategy.
Twenty years of G.O.B. (good ole boy) Southern Presidents, and now we have .... Chicago!
Judicial Watch and groups like Common Cause and CREW should be commended because at least they're trying. This is all about "TRUTH" and how well the MSM and government and courts can dodge it and/or cover it up.
In January, Obama learned the game. When he was outside-the-loop, he made all kinds of promises, but now on the inside he's learning which ones he can keep.
As for the government being involved in the business of marriage, would you feel your union was particularly blessed if sanctified by this government?
Marriage, love, trust, loyalty, generosity, families, children: is one business the government should get out of altogether, and find someone other than the tax services, lawyers and courts to profit from it's success or destruction.
It's really time to redefine government altogether, because no matter which way politically the pendulum swings, the same people monopolize it all.
I would have thought the liberals would be the tea bag people, because conservatives would run straight for ammunition and guns, or at least threaten it.
Tea bags won't make any difference for the underlying plans that have already been made––for next week, next month, and next year, even for the next Presidential election––or two, or three.
Tea Bagging is a cute little gesture, and at least preoccupies the valuable time of people "who really care."
Ending career politics, cronyism, and family dynasties profiting from government affiliated jobs and appointments; setting term limits. These are some of the things that would put an end to the nonsense in Washington DC and every state government in the union.
Even Obama couldn't imagine that kind of CHANGE.
"Kicking the bastards out" has been threatened by Americans before, but never accomplished. It's the simplest, most peaceful and most productive form of revolution–– to start a new "leadership" game with all new players. But Americans just can't seem to get there.
Why not ask tea-baggers about that?
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 4/12/2009 @ 12:27 pm PT...
Lora
If you follow my link you will see I was not jesting. I agree McCain would have been far worse. I think Hillary would have been worse. That doesn't mean Obummer isn't worse than * in a lot of ways. It doesn't mean that the one hope we had to get our constitution back isn't showing us he doesn't care about it. Listen to the audio at my link. Listen to Glenn Greenwald tell it like it unequivocally is.
That Obama was the best of the bunch says pretty much bubkes about what we've got.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 4/12/2009 @ 1:38 pm PT...
He's broken his oath!
Already.
He's pissing on the rule of law. Determinedly.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Brad Friedman
said on 4/12/2009 @ 2:14 pm PT...
Michelle L. @ 12:
Please see my comments in reply to yours on the Beck post at: https://bradblog.com/?p=7059#comment-389827
And, btw, plase be careful about falling for the phony "conservative vs. liberal" paradigm as I've seen you reference it several times. It's a scam. I hope you'll reconsider the use of such labels in your commentary.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Brad Friedman
said on 4/12/2009 @ 2:16 pm PT...
Agent 99 @ 6 said:
The fact is: Obama is doing as bad a job as * did
Absolute and utter falderall. While there is much to be critical of Obama for, to suggest he's "doing as bad as BUSH did" is utterly laughable, without substance or merit, and --- had I not bothered to comment on it --- unworthy of comment.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 4/12/2009 @ 2:42 pm PT...
Go listen to Greenwald at the link I gave, Brad, and yer continued bullshit about the laughability or silliness of my comments is childish and ugly. If you don't agree, just say so like a man, but quit with the insults because I can beat you on those.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Brad Friedman
said on 4/12/2009 @ 4:07 pm PT...
Why is it either "childish" or "ugly"? I disagree with you. I believe you're wrong in saying that Obama is "doing as bad as [Bush] did" and that the argument is without merit.
Had you said he's "as bad as Bush on wire-tapping" or "as bad as Bush on habeas corpus" (as Greenwald argued in the article you linked to), I'd not have said your argument was without merit, even though I'd still have quibbled on the "as bad as Bush" part, since I don't believe he is, even as I'm disappointed (but not surprised, which is one of the reasons I didn't vote for him) in how he's handling those issues.
If Obama's job was limited to only the points mentioned above, your arguments might also have some merit.
But his job is *far* bigger than that, and the difference from Bush is beyond question. So to paint him with the hysterically broad "is doing as bad a job as Bush did" brush is lazy, and without substance or merit as I originally argued.
Nothing "childish" or "ugly" about it, even if you don't agree with my argument.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 4/12/2009 @ 5:02 pm PT...
It is childish and ugly to try to demean a cogent statement when voicing your disagreement without that action would suffice, especially when it's someone you know and whose other statements in support of their position are known to you.
Seems to me you're just trying to make sure nobody associates this place with an anti-Obama blog, without saying so.
Hey, everybody, this is not an anti-Obama blog. I am just apocalyptically disappointed with the shitty, shitty, shitty start to this administration and think Obama is performing abysmally pretty much across the board. Doing my best to make people aware that Obama is essentially carrying on where * and Fudd left off, while posing as the new hope for America in the world. Stop listening to what he only SAYS and start looking at what he DOES.
A flood of foreclosures are coming down on our heads because the moratorium on them was only through the winter, not as advertised until new contracts could be negotiated to keep people in their homes. This administration continues to fatten the bankers rather than put a safety net under the masses going jobless and homeless.
Pakistani civilians are being murdered by drones on Obama's orders. Palestinian civilians are being exterminated with Obama's help. The swift withdrawal of troops from Iraq Obama promised has grown less swift over the last few months and even the Iraqi deadline he told the troops last week was going to be met has been countered by Odierno.
Though we're not 100% certainly not attending Durban II next week, it has been an ugly, ugly process so far and there seems to be agreement there is little chance he's going to get the courage to attend.
He has appointed a bunch of officials with egregious conflicts of interest or who are noted enemies of the people with whom they are slated to deal. He has put persons largely responsible for the economic meltdown in charge of melting it down further.
He is actively working against the integrity of the Constitution. He is practically jumping out his own asshole to avoid the administration of justice to criminals of the worst sort. His much heralded decree against torture turns out to have had a loophole you could drive a truck through and none of it covers Bagram.
I could go on, but I've been going on about it for quite a while, and if you want some support for my assertions, they're all here.
So, no, it was not in jest, and, no, it is no laughing matter, and I'm in no mood for obnoxiousness about stuff that is this dire.
We used to have the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence and the Federalist Papers linked here for easy reference. We used to pitch fits about the slaughter out there. We used to drive trucks around Washington, DC with signage screaming for the impeachment of these criminals, and now we have this silver-tongued politician working hard to keep them safe from prosecution, and you say my statement is "laughable"?
Can't you just say, "Sorry, 99," and be done with it?
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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Savantster
said on 4/12/2009 @ 7:08 pm PT...
Ana Marie Cox is Hawt(tm)
The rest is juvenile noise (by that, I mean everything about the right-wing, of course).
And Obama is screwing up by not shutting down these banks and instead giving them trillions.. he's screwing up by playing games in Afghanistan instead of bringing home all of our troops NOW and worrying about US instead of big-oil and other major mega-corps and their profits.
He's at least _trying_ to do the right thing on some fronts, and moving focus to probably more rational targets (Afghanistan instead of Iraq, but that remains to be seen in implementation).. but the laughing at Hemp/Pot as a way to fix some of our issues, that flies in the face of reason, and is done for political expediency and "image", or to maintain some sense of vanity and keep up a front.
I had hoped (byhond hope) that Obama might help to fix things, but 90% of what he's doing is just more of the same, and we'll all suffer in the long run for it. The ruling elite is too entrenched, and I fear Obama is just another puppet stooge in the grander scheme of things.
http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com
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COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Brad Friedman
said on 4/12/2009 @ 7:40 pm PT...
99 - Yes, writing that "Obama is doing as bad a job as * did, and in many ways worse." is a laughable suggestion. Had you made the cogent argument you just made, without taking the lazy shortcut to offer false equivalency between Bush (8 years of evil and/or utter incompetence) and Obama (barley 3 months in and still naive, lacking courage and finding sea legs) I probably wouldn't have said a thing.
Writing, as I did, that your lazy false equivalency was "utterly laughable, without substance or merit", as I did, is neither childish or ugly. Perhaps your confusing that with my opinion? I've now read my original comment about 5 times, and sorry, but I just can't find anything childish or ugly in it.
Nonetheless, as you were clearly disturbed by it, I apologize for that, as disturbing you with my opinion was certainly not my intent.
(And I similarly reject the silly suggestion that I have some secret motivation in "trying to make sure nobody associates this place with an anti-Obama blog." That is similarly silly and without merit. And, if it troubles you that I feel that way, I am sorry in advance for troubling you as, again, that is neither my interest nor intent.)
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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Bamboo Harvester
said on 4/12/2009 @ 8:09 pm PT...
... some people thinks ya can stop a freight train or a turn around a ship on a dime . . .
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 4/12/2009 @ 8:11 pm PT...
Your boorish response doesn't make any sense because Obama certainly lived through those eight years with us, and can hardly be called naïve, unless you're Hillary Clinton, and except maybe that he didn't realize his daughters would be held at gunpoint if he didn't go along with certain programs... or whatever it is that would make a Constitutional scholar behave this way.
I don't think you can equate my not wishing to belabor it further while linking to a very lengthy article with a long audio with laziness either. And pardon me for assuming you were up to date enough not to come back at me with your idiotic piece about "laughable".
You asshole!
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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Lora
said on 4/12/2009 @ 8:12 pm PT...
A flood of foreclosures are coming down on our heads because the moratorium on them was only through the winter, not as advertised until new contracts could be negotiated to keep people in their homes. This administration continues to fatten the bankers rather than put a safety net under the masses going jobless and homeless.
Pakistani civilians are being murdered by drones on Obama's orders. Palestinian civilians are being exterminated with Obama's help. The swift withdrawal of troops from Iraq Obama promised has grown less swift over the last few months and even the Iraqi deadline he told the troops last week was going to be met has been countered by Odierno.
Though we're not 100% certainly not attending Durban II next week, it has been an ugly, ugly process so far and there seems to be agreement there is little chance he's going to get the courage to attend.
He has appointed a bunch of officials with egregious conflicts of interest or who are noted enemies of the people with whom they are slated to deal. He has put persons largely responsible for the economic meltdown in charge of melting it down further.
He is actively working against the integrity of the Constitution. He is practically jumping out his own asshole to avoid the administration of justice to criminals of the worst sort. His much heralded decree against torture turns out to have had a loophole you could drive a truck through and none of it covers Bagram.
99, I have no argument with you here. However I still cannot see how you can say he's worse than Shrub. Not yet, anyway. He reversed some of the more egregious stuff under Shrub, for example this (Global Gag Rule):
http://us.oneworld.net/a...g-rule-key-womens-health
You'd NEVER find Shrub doing that. And Obama actually seems to have a care for the environment.
So...yeah he's bad, real bad in some ways. But compared to Shrub? Believe me, put the two side by side, and who ya gonna pick? Yeah, that's right. The tall one, every time.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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Bamboo Harvester
said on 4/12/2009 @ 8:28 pm PT...
Wilburrr... ~ I'll bet she would have much rather seen Captain Phillips Executed Too . . .
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 4/12/2009 @ 8:38 pm PT...
Lora
Some ways he's worse:
[1] We expect more from him, and will take too long recognizing we're not getting it... which sums up to lives lost.
[2] He has surpassed * in outrageousness of indefensible legal arguments.
[3] * did not ignore eight years of solid Constitution shredding and war crimes behind him.
[4] The entire world has been desperate for Obama to come in and halt the perfidies perpetrated and perpetuated by * and Fudd, and instead he is continuing them, only speaking suavely about it instead of belligerently. He's put millions off their guard with his mouth alone... which, again, sums up to lives lost.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 4/12/2009 @ 8:41 pm PT...
I guess I should add that, since the election is over, we don't have to pick one evil over another anymore. We can just go bloody postal to tune this one up. Or lay back and let the ruin be wreaked without a peep.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 4/12/2009 @ 8:52 pm PT...
Well, and I agree, the women's health thing rocks, but taxing smokers to pay for SCHIP is fucked up... the one thing * accidentally got right. Obama's ideas about health coverage suck, even if his ideas about healthcare are better, because he is bent on leaving the profit mongers in place when millions need and deserve complete coverage and can't afford the premiums he will impose on them. This is not because he believes this way is better, but because the corporate big boys are less likely to kick. He never even bent a hair toward single payer during all the close attention I have paid to him since 2004.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Savantster
said on 4/12/2009 @ 8:55 pm PT...
The problem, 99, as I see it, is that you're saying "trying to move forward and make change" is "as bad" as the Shrub and his war crimes.
While I'm very pissed that Obama isn't going after the Shrub, I understand that it would be political fodder (for those silly ignorant right-wing types) and would distract from moving forward.
The problem I have is we're not moving forward. That, to me, is not the same as 8 years of Constitution shredding and wanton war for profits for friends.. Obama may be lacking, but he's no Shrub.
not to my thinking. And that is WITH his following the Shrub on "national security" and these illegal syping games.. THAT pisses me off, and it's more of the same, but Obama has already been 1000x better than the Shrub, and that's after 3 months.
don't get me wrong, that's no where near enough to make me happy.. walking a straight line after the most fucktarded drooler in history left office doesn't impress me as "change"....
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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Savantster
said on 4/12/2009 @ 8:58 pm PT...
Seriously, follow that link I provided.
The entire system is corrupted, and Obama is just a cog in that machine. He isn't about really changing it, he's about trying to make the impossible, possible.
That isn't going to work.
We've evolved past menial labor; menial labor only benefits the precious few. We should have been on the moon, and now mars, 10 to 15 years ago.. instead, we're just now promoting (sorta) e-cigs ( http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com you might want to google that, too.. it will supplant the tax soon enough).
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 4/12/2009 @ 9:04 pm PT...
No, no, trying to move forward and make change rocks, Savantster. That's not what he's doing, as you point out. You just have to check to see how silly the whole moving forward argument is against prosecuting war criminals.
You DO NOT move forward and make change when rapists and murderers commit crimes without prosecuting them in the bargain. Neither do you move forward and make change without prosecuting * administration crimes. As Greenwald pointed out at the link I gave when I started in here, it's completely illegal for the Obama administration to be trying to snake out of such prosecution. There is already evidence out there that is illegal to ignore.
And what kind of change are we getting? More shredding of the Constitution, more troops deployed and more innocent civilians slaughtered. That's not moving forward, except if you mean moving forward as we have been moving forward for the last eight years.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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Savantster
said on 4/12/2009 @ 9:18 pm PT...
illegal versus immoral or unethical.. I don't know that it's "illegal" not to prosecute crimes, but I sure know it's immoral.
That aside, if you follow the paradigm that "terrorists are out there", and we have some kind of "enemy", then Afghanistan is logical.. sorta..
Compared to what the Shrub did?
And a lot of the domestic spending and the like, does a LOT to undo the damage by the Shrub and the right-wing over the past 8 years.. that can't be denied.
Now, is that enough? Does that "fix things"? no.. but, again, you have to follow that link to see why. Obama is just another of those put in power FOR US, not BY us, because the status quo wants to project change without making real change. Do I think Obama is "intentionally" screwing us? .. I don't know, he might just be a patsy.. After all, most humans are pretty simple..
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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Bamboo Harvester
said on 4/12/2009 @ 9:23 pm PT...
Wilburrr... ~ Humans crack me ... some actually think their shit don't stink . . .
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 4/12/2009 @ 9:27 pm PT...
Savantster, I think you forgot to give the link... or I can't find it anyway.
It's also my position that even if he were a prince domestically, which he absolutely is not, and doesn't appear to want to be, not badly enough to fight for it anyway, the hardship and destruction and injury and death we are causing around the world are more important to the whole world, all humankind, the planet, and he's getting a D- already on that stuff.
Food for thought.
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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Savantster
said on 4/13/2009 @ 11:29 am PT...
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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Big Dan
said on 4/13/2009 @ 8:23 pm PT...
Mmmmmm.....sea legs......
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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Big Dan
said on 4/13/2009 @ 8:24 pm PT...
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 4/14/2009 @ 3:40 am PT...
Clabs, crams, and Alaskan King Lobsta - a buffet goers delight. Would you like a complementary steaming pot of hot tea (bags) with that ? Hold the Hollandaise sauce if you would,.. please,.. the Fascists have a tendency to get over excited,.. then it is so difficult to get them to re-focus,.. on anything but their or somebody else's genitals.
There ought to be some kind of a law about that,.. that is less hedonistic and more in accordance with "Family Values".
~Amen~
COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
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Damail
said on 4/16/2009 @ 9:49 pm PT...
A quarter of a million Americans came out and spoke out against the insane fiscal policy that is being propagated, and so MSLSD thinks it can belittle the whole operation by cracking lewd sexual slurs? Won't work.
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
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Savantster
said on 4/17/2009 @ 2:20 pm PT...
MSLSD?
and 250,000 ignorant hicks railing against the system when 90% of they supported the same system under the "R guy", and not understanding the entire premise behind "tea party", doesn't impress me (or anyone with a brain).
Taxes are, and have been, a part of this country and life in general. Crying because people in an income bracket that have been rigging the game for centuries, a bracket you'll never reach because you're simply too pathetic and ignorant, is laughable.
The underlying problem is that the "very rich" enjoy a lifestyle, quality of living, that they don't actually "earn". They have bought and paid for the protectors to look the other way, and while no one is watching, they are looting the till. Supporting that behavior when it hurts you makes you pretty stupid.
"spreading the wealth" is a lie used to distract from the _real_ action, which is compensating for a skewed, rigged, broken system that allows the precious few to abuse the masses for their own gain. Since "all men are created equal", there is clearly a problem when less than 10% of the people own 80% or more of all the "stuff" there is to own. Something got broke, someone stacked the deck, someone is playing dirty pool.. and pulling that money back into the system by force, so the ones being shit on the most by the rigged game can at least have food and shelter just makes good sense.
letting the abusers continue to abuse; retarded.