Kos does a fine job of refuting the forgery fanatics. Point by point. It would be lovely if both sides were so dilligent and level-headed and sober and responsible in their analysis.
Mind you, the memos may still turn out to be forgeries, but the items that the Right Gone Wild are pointing out as reasons why these documents couldn’t have been produced in 1972, have in fact been 100% debunked. Point by point. But nice try boys!
Meanwhile — the larger and more substantive issue — we’re still waiting for the White House to deny either the legitimacy of the memos, or their substance. So far, they’ve done neither. Leaving unanswered the question about whether Lt. Bush disobeyed the direct orders of superiors by not reporting for a physical, losing his flight status because of it, and — the Boston Globe’s story that ended up overshadowed in all of this — whether he perjured himself (or whatever one would call it) by signing official documents that he would join a Reserve unit up in Boston in exchange for being released from his Air National Guard commitments in Texas/Alabama, but then never did.
And yes, with 1000 US Troops dead in Iraq, and thousands and thousands more ordered, including Guard and Reserve, to extend their tour of duty beyond what they were promised, sent there by a self-proclaimed “War President” for a self-admitted “miscalculation”, Bush’s own behavior and possible subordination of his own military superiors is all very relevant — especially so — in 2004.
> Bush’s own behavior and possible subordination of his own military superiors is all very relevant — especially so — in 2004.
This came up along with cocaine and abortion and Bush still beat the crap out of a popular Texas Governor named Ann Richards. It came up again in 2000. Old news as the Clintons used to say.
It is amazing to see how you treat Bush now and how you defended Clinton then.
It is amazing that you believe everything you agree with and believe nothing that you disagree with.
We know what Kerry said in front of congress after the war and we know he threw his medals, I mean his ribbons, I mean someone else’s medals… We know his voting record. We know he is a Dukakis liberal.
It’s all irrelevant because it’s the economy stupid and it is the war of Terrorism.
The economy – stock market is up, 5.4% unemployment rate (that is extremely good), people are going to work, the millions of jobs lost due to 911 are turning into millions of newer jobs. Don’t quote me numbers from 2003 only! You have to apply the numbers up to the present.
By the time the election nears. the numbers should be so much better that it will kill any chance of Kerry winning!
hubris
Overbearing pride or presumption; arrogance
(I’ll take a 5 point Bush lead ANY day)
Nov. 2 2000 Bush Gore
CNN/USA Today/Gallup 48% 42%
ABC News 49 45
Washington Post 48 45
Reuters/MSNBC/Zogby 45 42
Nov. 7 2000:
Gore
50,999,897
Bush
50,456,002
Right – and Gore lost the electoral vote.
Like I said on an earlier post, if Bush wins the popular vote but loses the electoral vote, you liberals will not say "Well, Bush got 500,000 more popular votes." And if the SCOTUS gets involved and deems lawfully that the election was won by Kerry, you liberals won’t say that "Kerry stole the election. Kerry was selected, not elected." It will show the hypocrites that you guys really are.
If Kerry wins Florida by 1500 votes on election night and then by 500 after the recount, and that decides it, then that is who wins! I can live with that, you guys could not.
Paul,
It is the economy stupid. You see the stock market being up doesn’t affect us average Americans. Unemployment at 5.4% is an interesting number but that is all it is. it has nothing to do with income. Income for new hires is down. As importantly, the 5.4% rate does not only not replace jobs lost but the growth rate of the economy will not emcompass workers entering the labor force for the first time.
Time, is flowing like a river, on and on, and only time will tell who is right.
Jaime, Paul obviously didn’t understand your post. Surprised? 🙂
In another post, Paul said:
"We know what Kerry said in front of congress"
Really? Do you? Please tell us! (And prepare to be corrected, as I’m guessing that the Freepers and NewsMaxers didn’t *actually* tell you what he said…so amuse us please!)
He also said:
"We know his voting record."
Do you? How does it differ from Cheney when it comes to Defense Cuts? Please let us know!
And finally he said:
"It’s all irrelevant because … it’s the war of Terrorism."
Freudian slip? Or has Paul finally gotten something right?! The war *of* Terrorism, indeed.
Paul,
We all know who the rightist is, but that doesnt matter. Please show me where i am wrong if that is,indeed your claim.