READER COMMENTS ON
"The Future of Democracy Will Be Determined from the Bench...Whether Judges Like it or Not"
(13 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Charlie L
said on 11/22/2006 @ 11:15 am PT...
Oh come on Brad... this is not AND NEVER HAS BEEN (except in Bev Harris's mind) a non-partisan issue.
Elections are being stolen 99.5% of the time by REPUBLICANS, and every single glitch with electronic voting and electronic vote counting seems to always favor the REPUBLICANS in ways that are not random. When a glitch favors an independent, it is just to steal votes from the Democrats and let the REPUBLICANS sneak in.
Election reform is, and always will be, a matter of whether or not REPUBLICANS are willing to take a chance of having their policies and ideas debated and voted on FAIRLY by the American electorate, or whether they have to cheat to win.
To say anything less is either disingenuous (in your case) or a (perhaps) necessary 501(C)3 requirement (in Bev's case). Personally, I think it is a very big MIS-FRAMING and just lets the crooks off the hook and opens the door for "technological solutions" that will not work as long as one party is TRYING to subvert the system.
Charlie L
Portland, OR
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allie
said on 11/22/2006 @ 11:42 am PT...
These paperless machines are a sham to our democracy and need to be replaced immediately. It's clear that they can be "hacked" as in the Jennings Florida race and, unless a revote is accomplished, the election becomes a mockery and a travesty of justice. 18,000 undervotes just doesn't cut it and it's apparent that they were democratic ballots....duh! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that we've got a problem - a very serious threat to our democracy and if we fail to correct it, we have no one to blame for the demise of this democracy by ourselves.
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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allie
said on 11/22/2006 @ 11:45 am PT...
Diebold needs to be investigated immediately as to their intentional vulnerabilities within these machines which were "guaranteed" by them at purchase to be "secure". They sold us BS....and easily hackable machines. Time for a total refund to the people for the immediate return of these machines. Then the whistleblowers who will find themselves complicit will "sing" and the officials involved at Diebold can be brought to the justice they rightly deserve.
What they've done to this democracy is criminal in every respect. Time to bring these scoundrels to justice for their reprehensible level of chicanery.
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Jeannie Dean from District 13
said on 11/22/2006 @ 11:46 am PT...
Hello, Brad! Melissa w/ Video the Vote just sent me your link and I'm THRILLED to read you, today. Thank you so much for helping to keep the national spotlight on this unprecedented race in Florida's District 13. My VTV partner Leonard and are working together to make sure we have independent footage of this entire coo-coo process.
To date, we have the entire recount on tape, as well as over 40+ compelling testimonials from voters (both Republican AND Democrat) at the hearings sponsored by the People for the American Way. We have also been working closely with Susan Pynchon, the executive director of the Florida Fair Elections Commission, who has been keenly following Kathy Dent conduct this "rubber stamp recount", and logging objections to their questionable observances of Florida State law. We will be sending the footage directly to L.A., where our directors will edit/dupe/compile all footage as we go. We will continue to be a quiet, steady presence as these events unfold.
I've also been writing about this, logging all the relevant statistics daily, but I have been discouraged to notice a DECREASE in my readership as a result, (and from a politically charged community, too!) I believe this is because voters are still relatively naiive about this (which has been a great shock to me); their assumption being that there is some office, group or individual who is regulating and addressing these problems. No one is. As I'm sure you know, the State is self-auditing, self-regulating, and accountable to no one. I'm horrified.
Forgive me for double posting (I fear my comments were buried in one of your previous posts re: ballot design) but as this post lines up with mine: urging the Courts to apply due pressure for Due Process, I have just posted the e-mail address for the presiding Florida Circuit Court Judge in this case, William L. Gary:
smithd@mail.co.leon.fl.us
I hoping your readers will take a moment to urge him to mandate the release of ES&S's proprietary hash codes and allow this process to go forward.
We are on the press list with Mrs. Jennings office, but please do let us know if you have more information re: when and where we should be in order to continue this work- it is of vital interest to the Country, even if they aren't interested just yet.
For more detailed reports of the double recount conducted here from a 'mysterious warehouse location somewhere east of I-75', please visit: http://jeanniedean.livejournal.com/
Keep up the good work! I will continue reading you with much interest.
Sincerely,
Jeannie Dean-District 13
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Fearless
said on 11/22/2006 @ 2:58 pm PT...
Spot on as usual, Brad, however, I believe pressure must be put on Rep. Conyers to reconvene his hearings, expand the investigation to include 2006, issue appropriate subpoenas and eventually write new law that will effectively replace HAVA (just one of many 00-06 laws that need amending or rescinding).
Conyers should face an onslaught of criticism if he doesn't follow through. I suggest concerned citizens begin searching for candidates to run in 08 primaries should the Dems not follow through on the agenda that got them elected. (I know, I know, they aren't even in power yet)
Keep up the good work and enjoy some turkey and football tomorrow. You've certainly earned it.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 11/22/2006 @ 5:18 pm PT...
Jeannie -
Please feel free to keep me upped as to the goings on down there. And where you've got any video we should run on BRAD BLOG, of course, please let me know. Likely more eyeballs (and frequently very "important" ones at that) read BRAD BLOG than you may know. So, as mentioned, if something needs to be seen/heard, please feel free to contact me.
As to readership going down as you've been covering FL-13, not to worry. I've had the same thing happen here many times when I get on a particular roll that may not be "popular reading" but needs to be told nonetheless.
Keep documenting the truth and telling it as best as you can. I'm always happy to try to find time to help when possible.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 11/22/2006 @ 11:49 pm PT...
spokesholes
That's perfect Brad. That word has got to be coined and used exclusively to describe voting fraud thieves. They are new breed!
LOL!
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Mitch in Chicago
said on 11/23/2006 @ 9:19 pm PT...
Were it not judges who first required election boards to use touch screen ballots in order for the elections to comply with the Americans With Dissabilites Act.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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the_zapkitty
said on 11/24/2006 @ 4:28 pm PT...
No, it's the judges who've been hit with a ton of backdoored propaganda "that touchscreens were the only way to deal with Americans with dissabilites"... and they ate that up along with that other piece of voting machine
corporation propaganda:
"Electronic voting is the wave of the future! Only Luddites will oppose it!"
And you'd have thought current judges would finally have become aware of the differences between a physical instrumentality and a digital one, no?... instead the net seems to have taught the judges to equate the two.. and they are not the same.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Mar
said on 11/25/2006 @ 7:26 pm PT...
"Admitting that fact out loud would mean that most of them would (deservedly) be run out their jobs faster than Diebold or ES&S or Sequoia spokesholes can dutifully tell AP: "our voting machines work fine, the problem is human error!"
Human error, my arse...!!
Put an end to all this crap......take to the streets, peaceful revolution style and get rid of those corrupted monstrosities that have stolen your elections since god knows how long.
Paper ballots and pencils are what you need.....but hurry, 2008 is only two years away..!! Smarten up...wake up the sheeple....shout loud and often....write / e-mail your representative....NO MORE MACHINES...!!
DEMAND paper ballots and pencils......
It's impossible to cheat that way.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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the_zapkitty
said on 11/27/2006 @ 4:28 am PT...
... Mar said...
DEMAND paper ballots and pencils……
It's impossible to cheat that way.
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Erasers.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Mar
said on 11/27/2006 @ 11:18 am PT...
# 11
Ok, ok Zap.......paper ballots and pens then should be the order of the day...
But actually, up here, the erasers couldn't be used as there are too many people of all the parties vying for election watching the count, so people wouldn't be able to get away with furiously rubbing out votes and substituting something else.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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e
said on 11/27/2006 @ 11:12 pm PT...
Paper for President: House Resolution 6200
FIRST: CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVE TO SUPPORT THIS:
Representative Dennis Kucinich, D, Ohio introduced HR 6200 on September 27, 2006. His bill will “ amend the Help America Vote Act of 2002 to require States to conduct Presidential elections using paper ballots and to count those ballots by hand, and for other purposes.”
SECOND; SIGN THIS BALLOT;
http://www.opednews.com/...2696758&opedid=26673