READER COMMENTS ON
"VIDEO - GOP Spin: Bush's Low Polls Actually 'Good News'"
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 4/19/2006 @ 6:32 am PT...
Polls are showing that the people favor democrats taking over majority party status in congress in November. It is by average about 47% to 33% and growing (link here).
However, the way congressional districts are drawn (link to your district map here) raises the very serious spectre that gerrymandering may thwart the will of the people.
The way districts are drawn can change everything (link here).
On Hardball With Chris Matthews(MSNBC) yesterday (4/18/06), a reporter stated that on a district by district basis, polls show that republicans would hold the majority.
In other words, the design of the districts is such that it thwarts and is contrary to the will of the people at large.
The map link above shows how true this is. Look at the 25th and 28th districts of Texas, Tom DeLay constructs, to see what I mean.
We have a dictatorial situation anytime the will of the people is thwarted by its government. There is no other name for it. Some dictatorships are less vile than others, but calling a spade a spade is what I am talking about.
We have a dictatorship if the people cannot express their will by their vote. If the government allows us to vote but that vote is meaningless, the fact is that it is a dictatorship because the people cannot change the government.
The Texas gerrymandering case has been put on the fast track by the US Supreme Court (link here).
This is unusual under normal circumstances, but is all the more unusual since the cases have been stalled and have therefore been on the slow track in the US Supreme Court until now.
The case it now seems that will be reversed is Henderson v Perry (link here).
The issue of gerrymandering is equal to the problem with voting machines. Because even if we perfect the voting machines, the gerrymandering issue is just as much a threat.
Both evils ... gerrymandering and fraudulent and junky electronic voting machines ... are destroying American democracy.
And if the judicial goes down the tubes too (link here), and does not stop gerrymandering, I am sorry to say that democracy will be gone from American soil for a long time.
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Charlene
said on 4/19/2006 @ 6:52 am PT...
That leaves them no spin-room for next week's drop in Bush's polls...
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Emily
said on 4/19/2006 @ 7:17 am PT...
They're able to spin anything. It's really amazing. How is low poll numbers a good thing? Shouldn't you want to have support of your people???
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al rogers
said on 4/19/2006 @ 9:38 am PT...
Rating Rumsfeld PLEASE VOTE IN THE ELECTIONFRAUD2004 POLL just visit this website
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/electionfraud2004/
click on the word polls!!!!
U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said yesterday that he was not considering resigning from his post, despite the call for his ouster by several retired generals. Rumsfeld said the generals' grievances are a natural fallout from his push for dramatic changes in the military. He is one of only three people to serve in President Bush's cabinet since the beginning of his presidency. (AP)
What grade would you give Donald Rumsfeld for the handling of his job as U.S. Secretary of Defense?
also today you can visit iwon.com and vote their by clickon the word survey!!!
the results as of 8 am this morning was
10% gave him an A (What drugs are these people on???)
18% gave him an B (Ok these people use drugs less then group above
19% gave him a C (ok these people did soft core drugs in the 60's
16% gave him a D (these people figuring Dick Cheney beats him up and Conda Liza Rice is his S&M mistress
27% gave him an F ( these people follow the news and have some degree of intelligience.
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big dan
said on 4/19/2006 @ 10:48 am PT...
According to GOP spin, low Bush ratings are good news.
This just in: If good ratings are good, and bad ratings are good, then what's bad???
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 4/19/2006 @ 10:49 am PT...
"Good news, because the president's popularity has stabilized. It's bottomed out."
That isn't spin, Ms. Ifill. that's the stupidest garbage to come out of Washington since "You're doing a heckuva job, Brownie."
A NASCAR driver runs out of fuel on the last lap. Good news...his gas tank bottomed out. A football team trails 63-0, then makes a first down. Good news...the offense has bottomed out. Our war dead in Iraq total the same for two consecutive months. Good news...it isn't getting worse, so it's bottomed out.
Imagine if a kid brought home a report card with four Ds and one F, and said to his parents, "Hey Mom and Dad. I got the same marks two semesters in a row. Four Ds and one F. That means my grades have bottomed out!"
Jeez Louise, what morons work for Bush.
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big dan
said on 4/19/2006 @ 10:50 am PT...
Dredd: comment #1... That means a lot of 51%-49% GOP victories on DIEBOLD/ES&S machines, ala Schmidt/Hackett, Bush/Kerry....and a lot of phone-jamming. But Rove just said elections are better than ever!!!
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big dan
said on 4/19/2006 @ 10:52 am PT...
Present pre-election polls: Casey ahead of Sanitarium double-digits. "Final Count": Sanitarium 51%-Casey 49%. Who's Tobin's phone-jamming replacement, now that he's in the slammer?
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Just a thought...
said on 4/19/2006 @ 10:58 am PT...
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Savantster
said on 4/19/2006 @ 12:21 pm PT...
Funny.. "no one likes us anymore.. but that's good, because now we know just how few people do like us! that's good news!".. Or, if you speak Shrubbian.. "ok, now only the hard-core morons care about us.. time to stir the pot back up and get that very small minorty drumming up the vast majority.. let's give them 'a new pearl harbor'.. again.."
Not to mention, what happens if the polls show "the decider" drops to the 20s? Is that "lower than low"? or some other oxymoron? (not Shrubby, we know he's a moron)
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bluebear 2
said on 4/19/2006 @ 12:51 pm PT...
When the polls reach 0% Bush will be at his prime since then they can only go up!
"Why can't you libruls see that?" "Must be all that hate yall got goin on!"
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 4/19/2006 @ 1:05 pm PT...
Bush has the lion's share of private money behind him. He has compliant media, all owned by the same corporations that form his base. He has the great advantage of the presidential bully pulpit. No incumbent president in history ever started the day with a better chance to win public approval.
Given these advantages, the fact that two-thirds of the American people disapprove of Bush is stunning. The money is still there, the corporate media are still there, Bush gets TV time whenever he wants it to bloviate on something...yet the American people think he stinks, by two to one.
If that's good news, Hurricane Katrina was a breath of fresh air.
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agent99
said on 4/19/2006 @ 1:54 pm PT...
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Jimbo
said on 4/19/2006 @ 4:15 pm PT...
GOP had THIS WMD STORY HIDDEN.
April 17, 2006
Neo-Nazi Supremacist Convicted In WMD Case
In Tennessee, a white supremacist with Neo-Nazi ties has been convicted of attempting to acquire Sarin nerve and C-4 explosives in order to blow up government buildings. The man, Demetrius Van Crocker, once told an FBI informant that he dreamed of riding a motorcycle to Washington D.C. and setting off a dirty nuclear bomb while the House and Senate were in session. Crocker also said he wanted to get a helicopter license so he could bomb or spray poison gas on the African-American neighborhoods in Jackson Tennessee. Crocker was arrested after he bought nerve gas from an undercover agent. His attorney argued Crocker was prone to exaggeration and was a victim of entrapment. Despite the serious charges, the national press has ignored the story. The New York Times, Washington Post or Los Angeles Times have yet to report on Crocker’s arrest or conviction. A recent report by the Southern Poverty Law Center found that the radical right has attempted to carry out at least 60 terrorist plots since the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people.
http://www.jacksonsun.co...14/NEWS01/604140305/1002
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Jimbo
said on 4/19/2006 @ 4:19 pm PT...
DEAR MISTER PRESIDENT
-Neil Young new lyrics
Dear Mr. President
Come take a walk with me
Let's pretend we're just two people and you're not better than me.
I'd like to ask you some questions if we can speak honestly
What do you feel when you see all the homeless on the street ?
Who do you pray for at night before you go to sleep?
What do you feel when you look in the mirror?
Are you proud?
How do you sleep while the rest of us cry ?
How do you dream when a mother has no chance to say goodbye?
How do you walk with your head held high?
Can you even look me in the eye and tell me why?
Dear Mr. President
Were you a lonely boy?
Are you a lonely boy?
How can you say "No child is left behind"?
We're not dumb and we're not blind.
They're all sitting in your cells,
While you pay the road to hell.
What kind of father would take his own daughter's rights away?
And what kind of father might hate his own daughter if she were gay?
I can only imagine what the first lady has to say.
You've come a long way from whiskey and cocaine.
How do you sleep while the rest of us cry?
How do you dream when a mother has no chance to say goodbye?
How do you walk with your head held high?
Can you even look me in the eye?
Dear Mr. President
You'd never take a walk with me would you.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 4/19/2006 @ 5:24 pm PT...
Seriously, if crap like this is on TV, there's definitely something funny going on. Any average person must roll their eyes when they see someone on TV saying, "Bush's record low poll numbers are actually good news." I mean, enough is enough! It's embarrassing!!! This man Doyle deserves an academy award for saying this! I'm serious! That is one awesome piece of acting. To degrade yourself so badly, deserves an academy award.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 4/19/2006 @ 5:26 pm PT...
It's an example of the MSM giving fake balance instead of reality. There's one truth, MSM, not two!!! Bush has record low polls. There's not "another side", or "another opinion." There's one truth, one fact...Bush has all time record low poll numbers. PERIOD!!!!!!!!
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Neal
said on 4/19/2006 @ 5:28 pm PT...
'course today, in re-assigning his duties, Bush told Rove "Number one, I want you to focus on retaining Republican control of the Congress." Uh-oh. He's going to have even more time to coordinate dirty tricks...
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Neal
said on 4/19/2006 @ 5:30 pm PT...
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Neal
said on 4/19/2006 @ 5:33 pm PT...
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Neal
said on 4/19/2006 @ 5:36 pm PT...
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big dan
said on 4/19/2006 @ 5:41 pm PT...
Now, here's a leader with an 82% approval rating! He's helping his country's poor with their oil revenues. Bush, Pat Robertson, and the neo-cons, and wrongnuts want him killed and they and the MSM want us to hate him. But why? Because they don't want us to know or notice the GOOD he's doing! In contrast to OUR leaders!!! Try and think, "who told us to hate Hugo Chavez?" The MSM, Bush, Pat Robertson, the neo-cons, and the wrongnuts who just hate him because their leaders told them to...
Hugo Chavez: 82% Approval Rating!!!
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 4/20/2006 @ 5:39 am PT...
Big Dan #7
I think we realize that exit polls will, if not compromised now that KKKarl has all his time focused on the November elections, show the reality. Like they did in 2004. All that remains for the propaganda machine is "spinier and spinier" lies from the republican dictatorship's mouth.
And all that remains of the train wreck story, like the past two train wrecks in 2000 and 2004, is what kind of psychotic excuse they will come up with to explain away the results.
Their new motto should be "Denial and Denialer".
We can imagine them saying "the 8 million vote discrepancy in what the exit polls show and the official's tally shows that we have bottomed out, and the train wrecks will not get any worse".
"Next election we hope for only a 6 million vote discrepancy in the exit polls and the official tally."
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 4/20/2006 @ 5:56 am PT...
Dredd: How do we know they will not try and compromise the exit polls? One of the reasons, is that the exit poll companies are private companies whose business is to be accurate, or they are out of business.
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Dredd
said on 4/20/2006 @ 6:07 am PT...
Big Dan #24
I don't know how to explain, then, why that exit poll company explained away the 8 million vote discrepancy in the last election.
They said "republicans were more shy than democrats and therefore avoided the exit poll."
They also said that the only thing they did not consider was that the official tally could be wrong.
That seems to give new meaning to "accuracy".
Whether or not they are out of business depends upon who is paying them and how much.
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Dredd
said on 4/20/2006 @ 6:15 am PT...
It is likely that the republican dictatorship will wax worse and worse.
At the front end of the republican dictatorship's spin machine is Rep. Jo Ann Emerson, R-Mo, who recently finished a letter with "I think you are an asshole".
This was written to one of her constituents from her congressional office.
Her spin did no explain away the fact that she had signed the letter and had added another note in her own handwriting (link here, thanks RAW STORY).
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 4/20/2006 @ 8:53 am PT...
I'm just referring to...I saw Zogby on a talk show BEFORE the Bush/Kerry election, and he said he was certain, according to the exit polls, that Kerry would be the winner. When the host asked him how he was so certain, he said something to the affect, "My reputation and my company absolutely depends on our accuracy. If we aren't accurate, we're not in business." He said if he was wrong about Kerry winning, he'd curl up in the fetal position. I definitely remember seeing this, it might've been on Jon Stewart, before Nov. 2004 election.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 4/20/2006 @ 8:54 am PT...
Turns out he was right...Kerry won.
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big dan
said on 4/20/2006 @ 8:58 am PT...
I have a theory, that the more the GOP steals elections, they might be getting in office, but it is further solidifying more and extreme hatred for Republicans. And it is building and building, greater and greater. I think the e-vote thefts are backfiring. What it will eventually cause, is some kind of a huge backlash. The Republican Party is actually being hurt by stealing elections on e-vote machines, and the longer they keep stealing, the more decades it will be to un-do the hatred building up for Republicans by Americans.
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big dan
said on 4/20/2006 @ 9:00 am PT...
By the way, Dredd, great links you've had lately.
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big dan
said on 4/20/2006 @ 9:03 am PT...
...not that your other links stunk...(lol)
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 4/20/2006 @ 10:32 am PT...
Zogby talked to people who were about to vote, or had voted that day. The machines tallied something else...not votes of human beings, just numbers created by eletronic fraud.
Why the media, the public, and especially Democrats not named Boxer and Conyers are so unwilling to face the truth remains a peculiarly American phenomenon. Obviously, they aren't afraid to call election fraud by its right name in Belarus, Ukraine, Philippines, etc. The turning point was Marcos' "re-election" in the 80s, which Jimmy Carter supervised and labeled a fraud. Of course, Marcos had been doing it for years, but only after his thugs murdered Benito Aquino (his potential opposition) did the United States get mad enough to help Filipinos throw the S.O.B. out on his ass.
The only real difference between the Philippines under Marcos and the United States under Bush is that Bush hasn't had anyone murdered...unless you count Ray Lemme, that is.
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Soul Rebel
said on 4/20/2006 @ 11:19 am PT...
Wellstone...Carnahan (OK, that was John Ashcroft)
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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bluebear 2
said on 4/20/2006 @ 12:42 pm PT...
Oops - looks like it hasn't bottomed out yet!
Fox: Bush at all time low 33%
Striving hard for that 0% which will start his come-back!
And check the source!!!
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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Martin from Germany
said on 4/20/2006 @ 1:43 pm PT...
Don't they know what happens to people who say "It can't get any worse then this"? The Mighty Murphy Monster will bite off their heads! But what can you expect from these guys except Monty Pythons "Always look at the bright side of live"...
Martin
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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texaslady
said on 4/20/2006 @ 1:52 pm PT...
If Fox News Poll is at 33% can you imagine what it really is? Since Fox leans toward Bush in any given situation.
Has to be some Republicans waking up from a deep slumber.