READER COMMENTS ON
"VIDEO - Matalin's MTP Showdown with Gregory and Dowd"
(50 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Blow Me, I'm Irish
said on 2/20/2006 @ 6:55 am PT...
Jeebus H. Christ!! Whatta ugly-ass beeatch!
She looks like the GCI Demon-morph women around Al Pacino in The Devil's Advocate!
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
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Blow Me, I'm Irish
said on 2/20/2006 @ 6:57 am PT...
At least, with that twisted mug, she really can't say ANYTHING with a straight face....
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Dredd
said on 2/20/2006 @ 6:58 am PT...
I heard that Hollywood and New York comedians have formed a lobby group that seeks to keep republicans in congress.
They fear that a loss of material with a democratic win would endanger their source material.
After November '06 and '08 there could be a dearth of incompetence and hence reference material.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 2/20/2006 @ 7:03 am PT...
David
I watched that too.
It reminded me of last week's This Week with George Stephanopolous on ABC.
In that episode David Gergen pointed out that republicans campaign better, but democrats govern better.
One wonders if now the republicans are even loosing the edge in campaign talk?
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Blow Me, I'm Irish
said on 2/20/2006 @ 7:14 am PT...
From Matalin's twisted pie-hole: "Well, let’s have debate on policies and let’s distinguish political events of no consequence to the nation from those that are."
Hmmm....like a BLOWJOB???
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Blow Me, I'm Irish
said on 2/20/2006 @ 7:35 am PT...
Gigot suggested: "let’s make some distinctions between stories that really matter, and we ought to fight and fight hard about it and—where secrecy is an issue, and let’s distinguish between those and what are really human accidents."
Hmmm.... 'distinguish between "stories that matter"....like Chimpy's determined LIES AND MIS-INFORMATION, MANUFACTURING NON-EXISTING LINKS BETWEEN IRAQ AND 9-11 versus Clinton's lying about a consentual BLOWJOB??
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Blow Me, I'm Irish
said on 2/20/2006 @ 7:42 am PT...
Part of Gigot's attack on Gore: "In fact, I think the reaction in America after 9/11 was quite gracious and understanding in trying to distinguish between terrorists and moderate Islams. "
Gee Paul, you got a point there...Bush was so "gracious" that he personally approved of 200+ Saudis and BinLaden family members flights OUT of the US just 2 DAYS AFTER 9-11 with NO SIGNIFICANT interviews of potential MATERIAL WITNESSES!!
whatta dick.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 2/20/2006 @ 8:09 am PT...
How does Russerts' show go about picking Matlin? The root problem, is finding out who exactly picks these people. How come we don't know who picks the guests on TV news? And why they pick these particular guests?
We already know, 69% of the picked guests are Republicans. Why? And who picks them?
There is some process not known to the general public. It's not magic, what is it?
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Savantster
said on 2/20/2006 @ 8:09 am PT...
The people want to know what this Administration is doing for us? Um.. we KNOW what they're doing for us.. not a damn thing!
Tax breaks that help the wealthiest 10% while removing funding for 30% of our society. Allowing $7 billion in lost taxes for the richest most profitable companies in HISTORY, while giving them a free $65 billion in PUBLIC RESOURCES.. Killing our husbands and wives and children and parents in an ILLEGAL and UNJUSTIFIED conflit, then spying on us to show us how our "liberties" are safe, and what "freedom" is all about.
We know all too well what this Administration is doing "for us" (in our parallel univers, we need to start saying it like it is.. TO US..). What we never seem to know is, what the Administration is doing behind closed doors.. and there seem to be insane numbes of those (the most secretive Administration in history? and probably the most secretive in -any- Democracy in the world). Top off all the secrets with what's now become SWEEPING CORRUPTION in "their party", and you have GOOD REASON to be pissed that this shit can't be bothered to call his boss and say "dang".. or to have his "press machine" call "the press"? He has some business person from the ranch where the accident happened call the local paper?
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 2/20/2006 @ 8:10 am PT...
Who, at Meet The Press, picked Mary Matlin to be on TV for this issue? And why was she picked?
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 2/20/2006 @ 8:10 am PT...
Why are 69% of the guests Republican?
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 2/20/2006 @ 8:13 am PT...
According to Mirriam-Webster, the people are looking for integrity. Yes, it is the number one word looked up in their dictionary (link here).
Integrity in government, which according to David Gergen, the democrats do better than republicans.
There is no integrity in the republican government, nor for that matter, in their debates as this post by David Edwards points out.
Integrity, its not just for campaigns anymore ...
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COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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Medium Right
said on 2/20/2006 @ 8:16 am PT...
Wheres the reporting on how he saod hes behavior was out of line? No mention of that? No surprise.
Keeping your readers dumb as you can I see.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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Blow Me, I'm Irish
said on 2/20/2006 @ 8:16 am PT...
Gigot said: "how about a little human empathy?"
Like all that human empathy the press showed the Clinton's and their then-14 yr old daughter over a private indiscretion that became a public humiliation for them???
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 2/20/2006 @ 8:17 am PT...
They're bringing all the old G.O.P. warhorses back now. Alan Simpson, long-since-retired Senator, Mary Matalin (after two kids but with her talent for ventriloquism undiluted), and Paul Gigot, late of the Wall St. Journal and MacNeil-Lehrer.
In no sense of the word are the views of these partisans informative. It dramatizes the absurdity of trying to balance out opinions between those who are asking legitimate questions about the hunting incident and those who simply want to attack the media and liberals for daring to raise issues against Cheney...the merits of the questions be damned.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Blow Me, I'm Irish
said on 2/20/2006 @ 8:20 am PT...
"Wheres the reporting on how he saod hes behavior was out of line? No mention of that? No surprise.
Keeping your readers dumb as you can I see. "
wha???
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Savantster
said on 2/20/2006 @ 8:20 am PT...
Well, speaking of integrity..
"When the closed meeting began, Roberts averted a vote on Rockefeller's motion by arranging for a party-line vote to adjourn until March 7"
So, not only are Shrubby and Cheney being obstructionists when it comes to what they do, we see AGAIN how the Rethugs ABUSE THE SYSTEM so they can manipulate things to suit their own ends. These fuckers scream about "we want an up or down vote on BLAH.. we/they deserve that!", but then play these kinds of games on potential criminal violations by the Administration? Who in their right mind can condone such behavior by their PUBLIC SERVANTS ??
Republican "leaders" are the scum of the earth, but they are propped up on the shoulders of Republican "voters".. and people wonder why I despise Rethugs in general.. These idiots, for a few more dollars in their pockets, put these criminaly minded, despicable human beings in charge of this country, allowing their rich friends to pillage and destroy the lives of 10s of millions.. And these vile sons-of-bitches do it with a grin.. Some days I just get sooo angry about how pathetic and ignorant so many humans can be.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Savantster
said on 2/20/2006 @ 8:35 am PT...
I'm with you B.M.I.I. at #16.. Medium [has his head]Right[up his ass] isn't making any sense.. though, tossing around bullshit is something he's good at.
I'd sure like to see that moron post a link to where HE read that Cheney said "his behavior was out of line". But, don't hold your breath. Chances are there is no recorded/official statement of any such thing... just right-wing nutjob's wishful thinking.. If there was such "evidence", he'd have posted it. He's had several posts deleted because of misinformation.. this one will likely be dropped too (unless he shows us an article quoting the Veep).
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 2/20/2006 @ 9:20 am PT...
MediumRight: You're posts are becoming less and less coherent.
(Coherent...means we can't understand them)
I suspect they will soon descend into complete gibberish.
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 2/20/2006 @ 9:24 am PT...
I keep asking "who" picks the guests for TV News, because they're 69% Republican. I want to know, if the Republican's are just louder, more aggressive, and complain more, to get "their guys" on TV...OR...do the networks purposely pick the 69% Republican guests?
That is an important question.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 2/20/2006 @ 9:34 am PT...
Does everyone agree, that if the TV/MSM has 2/3 Republican/conservative "guests", this amounts to propoganda? By not giving equal time to opposing parties or views???
FAIR said that there were close to 90% pro-Iraq war guests in the media in the lead-up to the Iraq War, even though the country was evenly split.
This amounts to the MSM/Corporate News "pushing" the Iraq War, probably because some of the 6 companies (such as GE) also make military weapons.
The MSM is gone, and it's not coming back, don't fool yourself.
I just can't figure out what is the major cause of the mess this country is in:
1. The MSM - because if the MSM reported on vote fraud by electronic machines, they'd be gone
OR
2. The electronic voting machines.
If the MSM did their job, and informed American citizens of important news, we'd be well-informed on who to vote for, we wouldn't be in the Iraq War, Bush wouldn't be president, and the electronic voting machines would be gone.
For Christ's sake! The not-so-liberal NYTimes APOLOGIZED for propogandizing the leadup to the Iraq War!
Democracy depends on a free press, unbiased, and not controlled by Corporate America. People are getting wise to this, that's why they're getting their news on the internet and non-Coporate-controlled TV news like LINK TV & Democracy NOW!
Keep drinking the kool-aid, MediumRight, it's starting to show in your incoherent comments. They're spiking it a little too much lately on you...
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 2/20/2006 @ 9:50 am PT...
And she's married to the Rajun Cajun, besides
Ot, Poor Feeney is under scrutiny again
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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MikeyCan
said on 2/20/2006 @ 10:05 am PT...
You make some very interesting arguments.
I guess we have to ask ourselves: What does the MSM have to gain by supporting the Iraq war?
(1). Tax cuts. The MSM owners are wealthy; the most wealthy in the country. Of course they approve of the less-tax-for-the-rich policy that Bush has been a part of. And so this greed will give Bush a lot of leeway.
(2). Defense contracts, directly or indirectly. Many media giants own, or have other ties to, defense contractors( NBC/GE, etc)
(3). Continuing business overseas. The news business, and in most other businesses owned by MSM, have international investment interests. It does not do American companies any good internationally if America gets a reputation for unjustly invading, killing, torturing a completely innocent country. If America's own MSM had enough balls to tell the *truth* about what is going on, a lot of the international America-worship that is going on would die down pretty quick.
(4) ???
Any other hypotheses?
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 2/20/2006 @ 10:13 am PT...
Brad, in reference of #22 to Feeney wonderful article
It is on the FRONT PAGE of the St Pete Times !
Make sure Clint sees this (he-he)
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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texaslady
said on 2/20/2006 @ 10:36 am PT...
Having watched this show twice last night...I keep wondering why is it Republicans have to be so catty and petty? Can't they sustain a good argument without being personal. Case in point calling Maureen Dowd "the Rightist Diva" what is that about?
I would like to hear a professional discussion from the Right just once to see if they can speak from a objective view.
How about a Right side saying, "yes Cheney could have handled it better." Thats what it is about anyway.
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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agent99
said on 2/20/2006 @ 11:23 am PT...
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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Bob Bilse
said on 2/20/2006 @ 11:32 am PT...
Geesh! (#13), get a proof reader, or take a class in English. Maybe MR is trying a new tack: "They can't argue with my viewpoint if I don't make any sense"
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COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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Charlie L
said on 2/20/2006 @ 11:41 am PT...
BIG DAN: IF you want to understand the mass media, pick up a DVD called ORWELL ROLLS OVER IN HIS GRAVE --- that will give you the scoop on the "mainstream media" as we know it.
To summarize... The mainstream media (cable TV, broadcast TV, major weekly news magazines, radio, and most major daily newspapers) are controlled by a few, very large corporations. Those corporations are "theoretically" neutral in their politics, but actually quite Republican because the Republicans support their corporate agenda of low corporate taxes, corporate welfare (government money and/or tax rebates going to corporations to supplement their revenues or offset their expenses), less government regulation, less accountability, low labor costs, little labor protection, no penalty for exporting jobs, no tariffs, etc.
In short, our media is owned by Republicans, who, without any particular requirements otherwise (the "fairness doctrine" which required balanced opinions on the "public's" airwaves was abolished by Reagan in the 80's) will continue to put up "pundits" who support their agenda in percentages that will eventually reach 100%. They will continue to spin stories to support the Republican agenda. They will continue to ignore stories that threaten the Republican agenda and label anybody who talks about them as "kooks" or "conspiracy theorists" or "anti-American." They will continue to regurgitate the White House talking points directly through their on-air talent or through their surrogate pundits. They will continue to frame every issue and every story in a manner that supports the Republican agenda.
To put it even more succinctly: We've been had.
The myth of the "liberal media" was created in the late 50's/early 60's to help conservative Republicans get their agenda through. The truth was that good journalists were incredibly balanced, even though they held fairly liberal PERSONAL opinions (probably due to being well educated). On the editorial pages (hey, it's OPINION, right) they were liberal, but it was clearly noted and never allowed to interfere with reporting. However, under the constant (50 years and counting) repeating and repeating and repeating of this basic lie ("the media is slanted liberal"), it has become a "known truth" and now even the balanced "liberal" journalists will self-censor or over-balance their stories to avoid being labeled as "liberal" (in addition to doing so in order to keep their paychecks that are signed by Republicans).
Again, to summarize: We've been had.
To put it as Stanley Kubrick did, we've been bent over and f#$@ed without even the courtesy of a reach-around.
Charlie L
Portland, OR
CLL2001@gmail.com
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 2/20/2006 @ 11:41 am PT...
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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epppie
said on 2/20/2006 @ 12:34 pm PT...
kubrick? Eyes wide shut?
Carville and Matalin - more and more it seems to me that the only difference between the two parties is that they throw different types of bones to the little people.
The Dems throw financial bones, the Pubs through ideological bones. That's about it.
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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agent99
said on 2/20/2006 @ 12:46 pm PT...
Epppie, I can't say for sure, but my guess would be that the hungry, jobless and homeless would prefer Dem bones.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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Bluebear2
said on 2/20/2006 @ 1:09 pm PT...
Texas Lady #25 said:
"I would like to hear a professional discussion from the Right just once to see if they can speak from a objective view."
To which MR replies:
"Wheres the reporting on how he saod hes behavior was out of line?"
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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MrBlueSky
said on 2/20/2006 @ 1:13 pm PT...
A Word In Edgewise:
You know, Ms. Matalin has always gotten under my skin.
But there is some truth to what she says. We do need to tone it down. The heat is on too high.
The voters will decide in November whether the kind of vitriol and hatred (on BOH SIDES) is necessary.
At the end of the 80's, Bush (Sr.) tried to simmer the anger down on both sides by calling for:
"A Kinder, Gentler America"
Well, friends, that is what we need now!
And, by the way, I really don't think that the American people will like the venom-spewing that the Administration and the Congress have.
It is my truest belief that Americans want Republicans and Democrats to work together, negotiate in good faith and come up with compromise resolutions to today's problems.
But, one cannot punish the Democrats in this coming election... they have been out of power since 2002.
And I think you may see a Democrat Revolution this fall... or at least a return to a split government.
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 2/20/2006 @ 3:22 pm PT...
This is America....TURN THE CHANNEL!!!
Right now, on Democracy NOW! news on 9410 Dish, they have a special where actors are quoting from Howard Zinn's book about the history of American people (common people, not the "war-making" presidents).
I banned ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN weeks ago. You're probably watching 2 Republicans blurt out a non-Republican on one of those channels, with the anchor not preventing the minority view from being blurted out (between all the commercials, that is).
TURN THE CHANNEL!!!
Yesterday, LINK TV had a comedy skit with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Martin Short role-playing RFK interviewing an oil company CEO making obscene profits.
TURN THE CHANNEL!!!!!!!!
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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bb
said on 2/20/2006 @ 3:23 pm PT...
Doug E. #29 --- How do you get from a (your link) to b (your truth)?
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 2/20/2006 @ 4:01 pm PT...
Charlie L: I have one for you: "The Republican Noise Machine" by former rightwing misinformer David Brock. He was on "their side" of misinforming through the MSM. Now he's on the wagon and running mediamatters.org . There's so much documented rightwing spin in the MSM, that it would take you days to read all the lies and misinformation David Brock identifies daily.
They can't dispute him, either. He welcomes them to dispute him.
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 2/20/2006 @ 4:17 pm PT...
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 2/20/2006 @ 4:34 pm PT...
COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
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Truth Seeker
said on 2/20/2006 @ 5:29 pm PT...
Matalin was paid to defend Cheney like a lawyer who will argue either side. No intelligent human actually believes that Cheney's actions were ethical.
The headline should have been: "Veep Matches Wits with Small Bird and Loses."
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 2/20/2006 @ 6:23 pm PT...
Doug, I posted this same exact article, a couple of posts ago. I actually posted it 3 weeks ago, and it disappeared. I think it was when Brad's blog was "under attack".
COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 2/20/2006 @ 6:29 pm PT...
Right now, LINK TV 9410 on dish is showing "Weapons of Mass Deception", with commentary interjected by Amy Goodman. If you're not watching it, you're not serious about finding out the truth.
They're explaining how the Pentagon and the Bush administration "embedded" the MSM with our soldiers for one-sided coverage, and the Media War was the most important war, and they won it.
Things turned, when they called back the embedded reporters, who were being played like puppets, after "Mission Accomplished", and a whole new group of "non-embedded" reporters started reporting. They didn't plan for that, just like they had no plan for post-war Iraq.
COMMENT #42 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 2/20/2006 @ 6:33 pm PT...
And, this is huge...Jim Wilkinson (I think that's his name) is the GOP operative who orchestrated the "fake" GOP protestors over the chads in the 2000 election, and.......GUESS WHO???....Jim Wilkinson was then the guy who the Bush administration hired and orchestrated the MSM coverage of the Iraq war, including CNN. Like a drawn-up football play, or the script for a movie. I hope I got that guy's name right. I think it was Jim Wilkinson.
How come we don't know more about Jim Wilkinson???
COMMENT #43 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 2/20/2006 @ 6:35 pm PT...
There's even photo's of this Wilkinson guy at the 2000 chad's protest, and photo's of him sitting behind the military briefers during the military press briefings. Remember those early Iraq War military briefings??? The MSM and us were all played like violins by this Wilkinson guy.
COMMENT #44 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 2/20/2006 @ 7:17 pm PT...
"The White House Coalition Information Center was set up by Karen Hughes in November 2001. (In January 2003, the CIC was renamed the Office for Global Communications.) The CIC hit on a cynical plan to curry favor for its attack on Afghanistan by highlighting "the plight of women in Afghanistan." CIC's Jim Wilkinson later called the Afghan women campaign "the best thing we've done." "
"As soon as Pvt. Jessica Lynch was airlifted from her hospital bed, the first call from her "rescue team" went, not to military officials but to Jim Wilkinson, the White House's top propaganda official stationed in Iraq.
White House critics were quick to recognize that "strategic influence" was a euphemism for disinformation. Rumsfeld had proposed establishing the country's first Ministry of Propaganda. "
"One of the things that struck Gardiner as revealing was the fact that, as Newsweek reported: "as soon as Lynch was in the air, [the Joint Operations Center] phoned Jim Wilkinson, the top civilian communications aide to CENTCOM Gen. Tommy Franks."
50 False Stories By Bush Propoganda Machine (Jim Wilkinson: Propogandist Extrordinaire)
They mentioned all of this in "Weapons of Mass Deception".
COMMENT #45 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 2/20/2006 @ 7:22 pm PT...
There's a reason the neocons attacked so adamantly last week Big Dan, and erased your post...and so on.
This has nothing to do with these parties, the administrations of clinton and bush are interwoven with it.
What you're dealing with is a foreign power....one of immense destructive collateral force and they don't want anyone to know...what happened.
Doug
COMMENT #46 [Permalink]
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MOLLY
said on 2/20/2006 @ 7:43 pm PT...
The erased post? Is your server Aol? I was banned constantly from Halosacan until I went from AOL to Earthlink. Agree with the great comments. If we had civil discourse in this country again as Richard Dreyfuss is calling for ...what would the Republicans talk about? They have nothing. If they were honest,"There is practically nothing left to steal, all we can do now is sell America, we've bargained away jobs, stolen from the treasury, social security, the DOD to the tune of a trillion a year." How these people have fooled so many for so long is a mystery. This trillion is every year...I'm wondering if it is going to bribe the military into submission.
COMMENT #47 [Permalink]
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Savantster
said on 2/20/2006 @ 10:19 pm PT...
They don't need to bribe the Millitary.. they are getting more and more criminally minded folks in, and the brain-washing from days gone by are coming back. Let some dirt-ball from the streets that is in the military instead of a cell know that he can "kill rag-heads" and he's golden.. tell them that "those people over there helped rag-heads", and they'd kill women and children in a heart beat.
Everytime someone brings up "corporate america is fucking us", we are called "comunists".. it's totally fucked up, but it's how the right-wing manages to scare "dull-minded folks" into swallowing their pap.
COMMENT #48 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 2/21/2006 @ 4:53 am PT...
Mr. Blue Sky #33
If the democrats are given the majority by the voters in the House of Representatives, then they will, for the first time in many, many, years, have power.
The rules of Congress are that the majority party gets the chairs of committees, the majority vote on committees, the power to decide what oversite will be done, subpoena witnesses, schedule hearings, assign hearing rooms, and a whole host of power realities that only the republicans have had for circa a decade.
This will slow down the criminal enterprise that republican powered washington has become. It will give the voters two years to see what the democrats think about the republican destruction this past decade.
The all or nothing configuration of congress is not as wise as a pro rata configuration would be.
As Big Dan #34 says, "TURN THE CHANNEL" ...================SUPPORT CLINT CURTIS================
COMMENT #49 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 2/21/2006 @ 5:07 am PT...
BB #35
Good eye. Doug E made a statement with a link that had absolutely nothing to do with Sibel Edmonds in his post #29.
You called him on it, and he attacked you in his post #38, while shifting to yet another link which does not contain the words Sibel Edmonds either.
He is acting more and more like he has been exposed to republican talking points so intensely in the past, that his resistance to them at times weakens.
Notice his modis operandi is increasingly to link democrats to republican wrongs, then say that both are corrupt (which implies that they have equal power - which is just not true).
I hope it doesn't get so shrill that just being in the same senate with a republican incriminates a democrat or independent in Doug's mind.
Clint Curtis had the same experience, yet he has resisted quite well and I think he feels better now. Doug should spend some time talking with Clint. Clint could help him.
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COMMENT #50 [Permalink]
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epppie
said on 2/21/2006 @ 1:12 pm PT...