OT Sorry
Time to play dirty. Plant the seed far and wide. Ask the fundie bigots this-

If Alito gets on the court, will the Roman Catholic pope exert influence on the United States Supreme Court?

FINALLY MORE WAR-CRIMES AGAINST BUSH...THE WORLD COURT IN THE HAGUE SHOULD CHARGE BUSH WITH WAR-CRIMES COMMITTED AGAINST HUMANITY....I THINK IT IS TIME FOR ANOTHER AMERICA REVOLUTION...POWER, CORRUPTION AND LIES THAT IS THE MANDATE OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION....GLOBAL ISOLATION YET ANOTHER...BUSH TALKS ABOUT HIS ALLIES...THOSE ARE DWINDLING BY THE DAY...IT IS VERY REFRESHING TO SEE MORE AMERICANS STAND UP AND NOT BUY INTO THIS PROPOGANA BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION AND FEAR MUNGERING....STAND UP FOR YOUR FREEDOM... DEFEND IT

"We do not torture ..."

"Scooter and Karl had nothing to do with leaking Plame's name, and any notions to the contrary are ridiculous"

"I'm not a crook ..."

I was blown away this mornig when the local NBC affiliate ran the following in the "Ticker tape" thingie at the bottom of the screen during their news report:

"no hard evidence of secret CIA prisons in Europe".

I could have sworn I saw just the opposite last night.

Talk about spinning it! Just enough info to lead you to believe it did not happen, yet the report in fact said:

"There is a great deal of coherent, convergent evidence pointing to the existence of a system of relocation or outsourcing of torture."

Another fine example of our "Commie Liberal Press"

Will this get Congressman Conyers out of the basement at last?

Big surprise hey?! I'm thinking this is the no means yes and yes means no administration.

"We do not torture" They do

" We have evidence to believe Iraq has weapons of mass destruction" They don't

" We had no way of knowing the levees would break" They did.

Next thing they'll be trying to convince us up is down and blue is really the color pink in disguise.

Jeff McTiernan #6

On Hardball with Chris Mathews last nite, a neoCon shill did a classic freudian slip and said:

"we have to seperate the facts from reality" (Ben Ginsburg)

They had been in a discussion of the concept of congressional corruption.

A moderate, still sane reporter from the Congressional Quarterly said "it's a matter of what we call corruption" (Craig Crawford).

Crawford ends up being accurate, because behavior is not wrong unless there is a law against it.

What the neoCons want to do is, as you say "convince us up is down and blue is really the color pink in disguise" by "seperating the facts from reality".

What will Wake up The "United Stupid of America" ?

Backwards we go, thanks to bush, a Truly World Class Fuck Up.

Well at least Bush is #1 at something. Number 1 on the list of the worst leaders in history. Maybe Mr. Mills can think of a more qualified hooligan but Bush is number 1 loser in my books!

It looks to me that Bush is not the only leader involved.
European security services must have known and co-operated.
How much they told their elected representatives is at present anyone's guess.
But I suspect there is a lot more to come out.

A pandora's box if ever there was one.

All the best

Denise

Do you realize how pathetic you look? you are more worried about non-existant rights for islamists who want to kill you whether you go to church or not, believe in God or not, or voted for George Bush or not than you are of winning this war against an evil cancer.

I don't give a damn in we have "secret prisons" in Europe or Utah or wherever. If some towelhead dirtbag suicide bomber is captured on the battlefield he should be interrogated and imprisoned. If you disagree, let them live in your neighborhood then.

This just proves the point the Right has been making that real liberals would rather lose this war than win it. You all got your granny-panties in a bunch over the Valerie Plame non-secret CIA agent non-outing. Wher eis your outrage over this outing? oh, it's misplaced.