Ahh yes, the corporate media is finally catching up....I hope that NBC gets all over this issue, its time to expose the voting fraud once and for all.

For the good of democracy!!!!!

Doug E.

I think the MSM is slow to break because their waiting for another story to bury this monkey

Another terrorist attack maybe?

I wonder how deep Diebold's bench is?

If I know partisan politics, then I would hazzard a guess that all or most of the high ranking officials are from one political party.

I hope the dishonest neoCons on the bench are all replaced with honest moderates.

The bad news is that the realities of corporate life dictate that O'Dell's successor will proably be cut from the same mold. A little more tactful, maybe; don't expect any "We'll do everything we can to insure that Republicans keep control of Congress in 2006"-type remarks. But O'Dell was instrumental in deciding who his immediate subordinates were; after all, they reported to him, and as C.E.O. O'Dell was automatically on Diebold's Board of Directors.

The partisan Republican makeup at Diebold won't change. But the good news is that the class-action suit is a non-partisan action. It doesn't address the whys and wherefors of the Oct. 22, 2003 statement that gave rise to the suit. It was filed in behalf of people who lost money in the stock...most of these folks were probably Republicans, in fact.

This is a wonderful, almost heavenly instance of the right thing happening for the wrong reason. I hope I'm not offending certain Christians in Ohio by suggesting it might be God-inspired.

RLM #4

"I hope I'm not offending certain Christians in Ohio by suggesting it might be God-inspired."

And I thought I was the only blogger here who touched upon hazzardous subject matter.

You raise a good point. For those of us who have read the Islamic, Christian, Jewish, and other scriptures, we could say that these matters are largely the residue of interpretation.

The "Gods" envisioned in these interpretations, in my estimate, are in fact human creations in whole or in part.

I am not saying there is no "God", nor, for the sake of our athiest friends here, am I saying there is.

I am just saying that "God" is a product of human mental interpretations, whether or not "God" exists.

So, your wondering about whether or not that God inspired such a event, will likewise be reacted to based upon yet another interpretation of your words and then that interpretation will be attributed to God.

And if that be true, then expect "God" to react in every manner human minds avail themselves.

Sure, Dredd. A friend of mine whom I'd describe as a liberal Christian once said, "God might be a verb, not a noun. Maybe we're 'Godding' when we do good works, emulate Jesus, or pray."

I love the thought that God sent His only begotten Son to Earth, that whosoever believeth in Him shall have eternal life. But it's a thought, not a scientific fact...a thought based on biblical text and religious tradition. No one has ever returned from the dead and said, "Yeah, it works, folks!"

As a Unitarian, I believe in a higher power, but one without definition (the concept of man being made in God's image doesn't work for me). That gives me freedom to imagine that God has sent us the class-action suit against Diebold as a surprise gift, meant to neuter the free-will mendacity of Diebold's executives, which was beyond God's power to prevent.

"Worst Person in the World"... Bwahahahaha

That's amazingly funny. What will he tell the children?

Is Olberman a liberal or something?

Speaking of "free will," here's a thought: perhaps an outraged Ohio citizen or two, who owned Diebold stock, or found someone who owned Diebold stock, is using this lawsuit as a stalking horse.

In the lawsuit there will be a lot of discovery activity. People will be testifying under oath. If Diebold machines and Diebold employees are being used to deprive people of their constitutional right to vote, and that can be proven as part of the fraud case, it would have a negative impact on the value of Diebold stock, i.e. the discovery in the lawsuit related to manipulating the outcome of an election is highly relevant to the suit itself, not just part of a fishing expedition.

Diebold has been fraudulently claiming how well its products work. A few hacking demonstrations in front of the jury should be excellent evidence to the contrary.

Sandy D #9

"A few hacking demonstrations in front of the jury should be excellent evidence to the contrary."

YES!!!!

How come when someone reports truthful news, they're a "liberal"?

That's how far right this country has gone. People reporting truthful news are called "liberals". That was the rightwingers plan all along.

I'm not busting the above comment, I'm just saying the state of affairs of how the rightwing has taken over the media.

There is nothing "liberal" about calling the CEO of the company who counts America's votes and is up for fraud, the "worst person of the year". That may be considered "conservative". Conservatives feel the right to vote and have your vote counted, the #1 right in this country.

Excellent point regarding perjury...

And then there are 'other' things to consider about the neocon company Diebold Election Systems...

But I got a question here for the experts,

"E) Bev Harris and Kathleen Wynne personally raided dumpsters to collect evidence of everything from forged ballots and poll tapes to financial documents that show unreported payments to lobbyists."

For Bev or Catherine, I read this and am very interested in the results. For these reported "payments to lobbyists" has it been mentioned who was actually paid what? And has this been handed over to attornies yet?

Further was any of them named Jack Abramoff by any chance for some reason?

Any insight is appreciated, it would be great if "Dieb-throught" could come out in public and turn over proof of his fellow employees patching the machine and paying checks to lobbyists.

Doug E.

For Sandy: My experience tells me the people who initiated the class-action suit aren't using it as a device to expose the 2004 election as fraudulent, though that could become the result (pray to God). They lost money in the stock, and the downturn coincided with questions being raised about Diebold's machines; at that point somebody (a lawyer with no political ax to grind, most likely) scrutinized Diebold's public statements and/or prospecti and found something on Oct. 22, 2003 that was later (allegedly) found to be false.

That's all it takes. It's possible some of the stockholders could be Democrats or Independents (or even Republicans) who think the election was rigged, but it doesn't matter.

To repeat, what's especially interesting about the case is that anyone who bought the stock FOR A 23-MONTH PERIOD BEGINNING ON 10/22/03 is eligible for the class. This not only means a huge group people lost money and are angry about it, but that the company had 23 months to clarify or amend its original statement and failed to do so. If the case goes to a jury, that won't help Diebold, because the jury will reason, "If it had been an honest mistake, the company had all that time to correct it. The fact that they stonewalled means it wasn't an honest mistake."

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http://www.curevents.com...b/showthread.php?t=31733

Report on Diebold.

#13 RLM

What you say about this being a genuine shareholder lawsuit makes sense. People will take aggressive action when it comes to loss of their dollars but sit impassively while their civil rights are being stolen. Probably just some wishful thinking on my part.

I remain hopeful that there is a convergence of interests and evidence in this lawsuit that will benefit the plaintiffs specifically and all citizens generally. I would just prefer that the primary motivation was truth and justice rather than the almight buck.

Sandy: That's true too but in order to get a fully fair, and under jurisdiction of the courts the Diebold company needs to be bled for every dollar it has.

That means money. That is how these corporations fall to pieces, through money & litigation.

Doug E.

For Sandy and Doug: Right. It's all about money. If we think about it, did the people who put Bush in office to begin with (after swiftboating McCain in the primaries and then stealing the election in Florida) honestly think he was the best qualified person to lead the country?

That's just laughable. Bush never had such credentials, and nobody ever really claimed he did. The guy had never succeeded at anything. But he was dependably "loyal" to the people behind him, meaning Wall Street power brokers and Christian conservatives...neither of whom has he betrayed.

RLM Don't forget the International Bankers. M4 (who is doing her homework on Israel)

How ironic. And we are in Iraq overseeing the election to insure honesty.

Anyone know what lobbyists Diebold donated to?

Doug E.

Hoping to get a direct answer about Diebold lobbyists...

Doug E.