The bush family business stock and trade is

Ultimately to Murder the Poor and Disadvantaged

Every time george w bush speaks God kills a Kitten.

O'Reilly is taking off after Jon Stewart because The Daily Show airs at the same time as O"Reilly's rerun, which they've been pushing heavily on Fox of late to up his total audience numbers even further.

Of course, he'd like to discredit Stewart anyway, but I think the idea that they can undermine Stewart's 11:00 o'clock ratings by sliming him is the main motivation.

Jon rocks!

Somewhere in heaven, or wherever God is, He or She is smiling

#2 Gyrfalcon,

I don't buy that theory. If I'm watching O'Reilly's rerun after 11 and he makes a mention of Jon Stewart while trying to discredit him, all I'm thinking is "Wait, the Daily Show is on, what the hell am I watching this for" and I then proceed to change the channel to Comedy Central.

Wow, you put that up QUICK! That was just on tonight!

This is how comedy central describes their own show on the website.

"If you're tired of the stodginess of the evening newscasts, if you can't bear to sit through the spinmeisters and shills on the 24-hour cable news networks, don't miss The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, a nightly half-hour series unburdened by objectivity, journalistic integrity or even accuracy."

UNBURDENED BY ACCURACY. HAHAH. NICE NEWS SOURCE.

HAHAHA

Why don't these religious "wrong" hypocrites focus on not spending all their $$$ at these stores who have "holiday trees" and "holiday songs"? They want the stores to have "Christmas Trees" and "Christmas Songs" and Jesus everywhere in their stores, so they can spend their $$$ with Jesus around them in the stores. They are trying to break down the barrier between religion and governement, now they want to force religion into stores!!! Why not?

Put your money where your mouth is, and ban shopping at these stores, and put Jesus back into Christmas by not spending all your $$$$$$$$!!!!! Instead of forcing religion into stores, too, on the rest of us.

Everyone keeps forgetting, that these whacko's are an extreme, but vocal, minority. It seems like there's lots of them, because they get their talking points on Bill O'LIE-ly and rightwing talk radio. That's what rightwing radio is all about. Making the minority rightwingers appear like the majority, because they have all the megaphones and the media!!! They've been taking over the airwaves slowly for decades.

Ricky: I guess you're implying that Dan Rather & the NYTimes reporting on the WMD's with Judith Miller was REAL accurate, and Rush Lame-BOOB is Mr. Accurate. COME ON!!!!

Ha! The persecution complex is all part of the plan. Read Adorno's essays on the rise of fascism. The Fundies need the persecution myth in order to justify their takeover. Fasism is evolution not revolution!

Hell, if Jesus came back, he'd beat Pat Robertson to death with Ralph Reed's arms and then smack Ann Coulter's ass so hard, her stick-skinny, chain smoking body would break in two. Who knows, he may call in Shiva and Kali from the bench for some tag team action.

(P)Ricky, I guess I have to repost this for you now.

satire
1: a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn
2: trenchant, wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly

Satire works because it is based in truth.

Thanks, bye.

I guess Ill have to repost this for you because I didnt see that discrption on the daily show website.
You see, they describe the show as being...

"UNBURDENED BY ACCURACY"

Accuracy:
1: Conformity to fact.

Are you in preschool grade and dont understand what a "fact" is or what it means to conform to them? You are trying to redefine comedy centrals admission of what that show is.

Its ok to be wrong. You should be used to it by now.

ITS A FAKE NEWS SHOW! BEFORE YOU TRY AND CONVINCE ME IT ISNT, YOU NEED TO CONVINCE COMEDY CENTRAL.

UNREAL. LOL

"Many a truth is said in jest."
My Grandma Rosie

wonderful view of reality

A sense of humor need not be deeply ingrained in the "truth" of Richard Nixon's rants Ricky.

Take a course in Humor 101.

Speaking of Fitzmas, looks like it could be a neoCon affair. Fitzgerald is at it again (link here, and here).

Ricky, it would seem you've never actually watched the show.

The Daily show does present some 'real' news, specifically with an eye for the ironic.
Not all of the show is fact-based, hence the description, but undeniably a lot of facts are presented on the show.

So, you can dismiss the entire program as "fake news" if you want. But you'd be missing the reality.

(P)Ricky,

It's OK if you don't "get it". In fact, it's much more fun that way.

Chump.

Just FYI: Our local Neocon Lars Larsen also thinks the Christians are persecuted, has put up the money to erect a big cross with a Christian message in our big downtown square here in Portland. You may recall this is the guy whose ass Brad kicked when he was in town for the voting rights conference.

Ricky, sweety, you're not getting it. The Daily Show is on the COMEDY channel - it's a comedy show...satire...you know, humor? They show real news clips and add commentary to make fun of them.

Ever seen "Weekend Update" on Saturday Night Live? It's sort of like that, only a little longer, more intelligent, and funnier.

Bless your heart.

Jon Stewart = Hilarious

(P)Ricky = Hilarious too!

Let me get this straight Ricky, your saying because TDS is "A FAKE NEWS SHOW" Jon Stewart has no credibility pointing out the fact that the segment O'Liely said aired last week really aired last year. Even tho Jon brought on the woman who did the segment to prove it would have been impossible for her to have done that segment recently, being that she was thin in the segment and very pregnant now.

You see Ricky, the blog we are commenting on is not about a newstory TDS did, but about TDS's response to a lie from O'Liely. You don't have to be a real news show like Fox News, to point that out.

Although it is always funny to me how "A FAKE NEWS SHOW" has more truth in it than a Fox News Show.

Daily Show regular watchers may remember that O'Reilly was on Stewart's show this fall pushing his book and program. Coincidentally it was the day before "The Colbert Report" began. O'Reilly commented (he sounded upset to me) that Comedy central was about to begin a show whose main purpose was to make fun of "The Factor". If O'Reilly is doing anything, he's trying to discredit Comedy Central because they have been bashing him all fall. The problem is O'Reilly and his staff don't have the wit to compete with Comedy Central's writers. Thet can try but it'll be fun watching The Factor go down in flames.

lest we forget....

http://www.cnn.com/2004/...V/09/28/comedy.politics/

Love Jon and watch faithfully. Humor with truth is a make your day moment!!! Hate destroys and LOVE and humor endures!!!!! Keep up the good work all of the writers of Comedy Central.
Zola in ILLINOIS

The comment about competition for the 11:00 time makes sense, especially when you consider that both Stewart and O'Reilly host comedy shows. The difference is that Stewart knows his show is funny, and O'Reilly doesn't.

All I can say is that o'reilly, who is such a blowhard/asshole, has finally picked on the wrong person.

Everybody who has found themselves in o'reilly's crosshairs may have to worry about being in "mainstream media" or being "legit". These people may believe they have be very careful in responding to him, as he has the big fox propaganda machine behind him--and it extends to the likes of coulter, limbutt, etc. who use their platforms to 'pile on'.

Jon Stewart, using his platform of SATIRE, does not have that worry. He promotes himself as being on a "fake" newscast, dealing out the news with heavy servings of satire. He is NOT the person o'reilly should have chosen to take on.

o'reilly is so outgunned by Stewart in the wit, intellect, and logic areas that this will be the proverbial "battle of wits with an unarmed opponent"!

Anybody remember "Crossfire"????

P.S.: Waiting to hear that o'reilly has gone after his own fake news organization for holding a HOLIDAY PARTY!!! Heathens!

Y'all know how to tell a right winger? No sense of humor...

Let's hear it for Jon and the Daily Show staff. The only "journalists'with spirit enough to tell the truth and sense enough to make it funny. The Daily Show rocks!

So how do we get Jon Stewart or Colbert to do something on election reform???

... The BEST part of " TDS " was as Samantha left the stage ( claiming her water had just broken ) , Jon turns to the camera and says : " If that baby turns out to be Jesus , ' somebody ' OWES ' somebody ' an APOLOGY ! " - you know O'Leilly was watching , and I bet his head EXPLODED ! Stewart served ol' Billy a heapin' " Happy Holidays " helpin' of ass-whuppin' , and I'm LOVING it !!! ... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

To those who are commenting in this blog: this is pretty light material compared with the issues that are of heavy moment to this country and the world. I suggest that we get off this and onto the blogs where ordinary people are discussing how to proceed in the so-called "war on terror". I believe this issue leads logically to the following. If our Dear Leaders are really saying that this is a deadly, unending [v. "1984"] struggle, then we MUST institute a draft. If the war is essential to the interests of this country, then all of the bloody rich and privileged can bloody well send their sons and daughters into the Line of Fire, too. This, I deem, is the fundamental issue of these times. Remember, Theoden took the point!

Fact: TDS is a self dexcribed show whose facts are inaccurate.

That fact that you people cant admit what the SHOW ITSELF ADMITS, then whats the point. You need to comedy central executives to come by and tell you its fake? It says it right on the website.
Go read it. CASE CLOSED

K THX BYE

Poor poor retarded little Ricky..

Bill O'Reilly says his show is "the no spin zone", implying he's gonna be open and honest and not try to sway you with bullshit, right? Yet, he refers to Comedy Central as "Secular Central".. First, that's spin.. hmmmmkay? Second, who gives a shit if a TV channel isn't religious? Uh, isn't that part of what makes the world go 'round? Diversity? Why should TV be relegated to spreading the brain-washing of religion? So, can you admit that your "no spin" master is trying to "spin" something? (just an FYI, I'm not holding my breath, Mr. Hypocrit).

Also, how "accurate" is it to show a clip from a YEAR ago, with no explination, and pretend it's current? To use "history" to justify a "position started currently" (that is, this bullshit claim of "war on christmas" is new, not from a year ago when the clip was made)? See, your boy Bill is the one who can't seem to have any "accuracy" in his show, yet he -does- tout it as "factual news show", right?

At the end of the day, WE all know Jon Stewart is making jokes and poking fun and never claims to be trying to "convince anyone his position is right", he's just trying to make people laugh.. Yet, your moron is trying to sway people's opinions, cause changes in the world that can and will destroy lives, and does it pretending to be presenting "accurate facts", when he's really lying and spinning a crock of shit.. and you just eat it up.. Hey, I can send you some Tic Tacs if you want

Savantser,

Please refrain from the personal attacks. Thank you.

NEWS ALERT

Can't find the poll, but just heard on Chris Matthews' Hardball (12/8/05) that the latest poll shows MOST PEOPLE BELIEVE BUSH DELIBERATELY LIED TO GET US INTO IRAQ WAR.

Is this a new poll?

Thanks - Kira

Ricky, don't be stupid and ignore facts when they show up no matter where they show up.

Too many people say things like "oh it was on Democratic Underground so I won't believe any of it." Well --- if people CAN use their brains they will find Truth and facts everywhere, even mixed in with a bag full of mistruths. Yes, Jon Stewart has, primarily, a comedy show - but he also includes FACTS.

So --- don't be dumb and don't retard your ability to discern the truth from wherever it pops up.

I hope that's what Savanster meant when he said the word retarded.

Definition of the word retard:

To cause to be later or slower than expected or desired: delay, detain, hang up, hold up, lag, set back, slow (down or up), stall.

Poor lil Ricky - when's the wizard gonna get back to you about that brain?

Ricky is an excellent example of someone who has been brainwashed with a planted opinion and refuses to acknowledge any truth in a stated opposing opinion.

The "comedy" behind Comedy Central's statement , "unburdened by objectivity, journalistic integrity or even accuracy" directly counters shows such as O'Reallys No Spin Zone and the other talking head programs that pass themselves off as real news. THEY say they are real news... where Comedy Central says they are not real news... See, that is funny. Get it? The No Spin Zone is actually all spin. And the Daily Show tells the truth through satire.

The really sad and scary part is that people, brainwashed like you have been, believe everything they see and hear on those "spin" shows.

I also think it is funnier that you don't get it. You really spiced up this thread. Like a caterpillar stumbling into an ant hill. Maybe you're just pretending to be a dolt?

Do you also believe there is a war against Christmas? The reason so many people are talking about this is because Bill and Co have made this issue up. They made it up. Some right wing whacko has a job where all he does is thinks up ways to make you vote republican. People like you will believe that their religion is being attacked. You will then vote republican.

I haven't heard anyone state the obvious. The phrase "Happy Holidays" comes from the fact that "holidays " includes Christmas, Hanukah and New Years".

Stewart should be in congress or the senate.O'reilly belongs in a sanitarium,the man is delusional.

The only time you'll see a Republican laugh is when it involves a tragedy for someone poor or disenfranchised. And it really isn't humor...they just kind of roll their eyes, as if they can't understand how anyone could possibly be poor, when they could be ripping people off like any republican does.
Republicans are heartless parasites who only laugh at someone Else's folly....

You'll definitely want to check THIS link out....

Comedy Central is simply covering their legal ass. Everyone knows the Daily Show is satire, but that doesn't mean no one will try to sue them. By constantly and regularly proclaiming the show to be free of integrity or accuracy, CC is loudly saying "it's a gag, and even if it's TRUE, don't bother suing because satire is protected under the law."

I'm sure the troll's get this, no matter how ferverishly they work to play dumb.

Look there are two people that stupid people dont want to pick on 1) Union guys and 2) comedians. 1 will just beat the shit out of you physically and 2 will beat the shit out of you mentally. That's why comedians are so good at debate. They are really good at making other guy look really stupid because of a thing called quick wit. So dont fook with them. That includes stupid people like Oreilly and anyone who belives anything he says.

It was already proven that TDS viewer are smarter than Fox viewers.

LOVE THAT SHOW...

I saw "someone" has begun selling arm bands that say Merry Christmas. This is just another " in your face' antagonism from the far right. This is just another way for them to increase the polarization in this country. I remember Bush referring to himself as a "uniter". That was just another shovel full of crap in his crap wagon. All he did was unite all the right wing lunatics against the rest of the world.

I used to call myself Christian until several years ago. Then I saw how these people were acting very un-Christian, deceiptful, hypocritical, racist, intolerant. I couldn't accept that. I realized that they were all mentally ill. I realized after all these years that religion is a mental disease.

Bill OReally??,, please just go away ... soon.

Happy Holidays everybody! Even you Ricky.

Happy Holidays everyone! I love sticking my little Buddha under the tree and singing mantras on Dec. 24th and 25th knowing that many others will be singing devotionals too. Buddha assures us that all prayers are heard, so on those days I think human prayer should be specially powerful. Perhaps the members of some religions would prefer that I not participate, being a lesbian Buddhist and all, but I think God needs to hear from all of us, every day. My prayer goes something like this:
OM, PLEASE DON'T LET THE CHRISTIANS KILL ME.

Randall: Totally understand where you come from. I also fell off the Christian bandwagon, disgusted by the hypocrisy within it. Spent 15 yrs trying to understanding the realities of religions and spiritual paths. Now, I just laugh and basically ignore those with harsh realities. I believe in a Higher Power (you can call Him/Her/It whatever you wish) and choose to focus energy on the good, the loving, and the funny.

Every year I hear from these fundies about how Christ is being pushed away from Christmas and all that crap. Every year I hear it first from them and I hardly, hardy hear any first mention on anti-Christmas retoric from anyone. These people just want to complain and push their views on to others.

I understand that they want people to come to love and understand Christ or God or ???, yet, lack to understand that people come to this own personal realization in their own light. They become all estatic and full of it (an understanding of their understanding of God within their own life) and turn around and what to teach others the same, yet they turn around, not know how to control their anger when people think differently, and start feeding people sh*t and hate.

Maybe Kali and Shiva should tag team with Jesus in kickin some ignorant ass! (thanks IllDuce for the laugh!)

And O'Rielly was treated so well by Stewart a couple of weeks ago. Just shows what a two faced cowardly prick he is.

Wasn't Ricky the first poster here to start in with personal attacks?

Quote: "Are you in preschool grade and dont understand what a "fact" is or what it means to conform to them?"

Typical Right-winger debate tactics-- ignore context, repeatedly press one inane (and usually discredited) point of argument, then hurl insults. As soon as he gets some spite returned at him, he pretends to be on high ground, asking people to "Please refrain from the personal attacks." Sure, Ricky-- keep believing that we're the ones lowering the discourse in this country.

O'Reilly doesn't spin.

Dogs never bark.

Cats do not meow.

It is never hot in Death Valley in July.

The Pacific Ocean is dry.

All these statements are equally true.

LOL!!

And...
That's really chocolate pudding down there in the sewers--All GOPers & wingnuts should EAT some to make sure.

And it's OK to go for seconds.

If Jon Stewart's show was on a network at 6:30 pm, the show would get more viewers than ABC, NBC, CBS,, and FOX news combined.

Already he has more viewers than Fox or CNN. goes to show u most Americans are not conservatives and that those who do watch or listen to conservative media often only do so because they have no viable alternative.

I'd like to see the clip of the major news networks reporting over and over again that they don't know anything. That was hilarious! :laugh:

That was hilarious... no one new anything, and it was non stop covereage of people saying they didn't know what was going on but they all added they're own possible story. They ended up just making stuff up.
Typical.

Why did all the news networks go so crazy? I guess the same reason the is a War on Christmas. They need to justify their existence.

Yeah Path,, it is a long story.

I'll believe there's a war on Christmas when Christmas ceases to be THE ONLY religious holiday that is also a FEDERAL holiday.

Ricky #8 --- I guess you missed learning about Shakespeare. Do you know Shakespeare was the Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert of his day? Well, he was.

He used historical satire. (That's facts turned into comedy.) It's an old and highly respectable way of communicating news. It was also the only way to tell it back in the days when you might find yourself on the way to the gallows if you disagreed with the King. Hmmm. Something smells like the same old broken wind here.

Yes, thinking of the mad King George:

"For 'tis the sport to have the enginer hoist with his owne petar" --- Shakespeare, Hamlet III iv.

Kes, you bring up a very important point. What a worthless bunch of loonies they are anyway, talking about a War on Christmas.

The "Christian Right" doth protest too much, methinks.

Framing.. framing framing framing..

Why is O'Reilly waging a "War on Secularism"? Why is O'Reilly waging a "War on Tollerance", or "War on Inclusion"?

Us "libruls" keep thinking we have to defend the accusations, or show how they are wrong.. we just don't think like the nut-jobs.. but, to keep up and possibly win, we're gonna have to spend some time doing just that. And, we all know Framing is a HUGE part of it.

Personally, I like 'War on Tollerance' myself. The others each have their own problems, but who can be "against tollerance"? Well, we know who, but let's make them -admit it-, shall we?

For the record.. The United States of America is a SECULAR COUNTRY.. that's a fact, and the radical right needs to accept that. Individuals are "religious", the COUNTRY is NOT, nor can it be according to our Founding Fathers and our Constitution. Those protections were put there to protect the masses and the viability of this country. The fanatics must be stopped before they destroy America for their own ideological ends.

War on Tolerance! that's gotta be the best descriptor of Bill O'Reilly i've ever heard. too bad our country really does think it's religious- total separation of church and state will never happen in our lifetimes, though i'd bow and kiss the ground and praise Jesus, the Buddah, Muhammed, Kali, Ganeesh, and David Koresh if it did.

it's really too bad that people like Ricky get scared off by truth and stop posting their backward, right wing beliefs- because they're so humorous for me to read.

Happy Holidays to Bill O'Reilly and all my friends at FOX!!

There is no War on Christmas, you fools! It's just another ploy by the likes of Bill O' Reilly and company to keep you fixated on nonsense while the real travesty of our freedoms being eroded away by the powers that be continues unabated. Do you think anyone who lost everything during Hurricane Katrina and is now living in the subsidized cardboard box gives a god damn about someone saying "Merry Christmas" versus "Happy Holidays"? Do you think anyone who had the grave misfortune of having their sorry asses sent over to Iraq to get half of their body blown off by a makeshift bomb gives a flying fuck whether there is a so-called War on Christmas going on here when they're fighting a real war where people DIE and go home with parts of their body missing? But the powers that be love this shit, don't they? They can work everyone into a frenzy over the most insignificant bullshit while they keep things status quo and continue to divert billions of dollars from the poor and give it to the corporations and wealthy that are so magnanimous that they just horde it for themselves while everyone else suffers. You all need to WAKE THE FUCK UP!

To all the right winger dickheads I'd like to say give it a rest. You people take yourself way too seriously. Now drop this whole War on Christmas nonsense and put in your Passion of the Christ DVD and chill out. Please! And all you liberals that get worked up over these wackjobs should just drop it, too. You see there wouldn't be an issue at all if the people that are supposedly waging this war just let it go. It takes two to tango as they say, and if we don't show up to the party, the nutjobs dance alone. Get it? So to the "secularists" I say let it go and go back to your Bad Santa DVD and just chill out. Christmas is both a secular holiday AND a religious holiday. You've got your peanut butter in my chocolate. No, you've got YOUR chocolate in my peanut butter. Hey, fuckwad. It's still a god-damned Reese's Peanut Butter cup. Just eat the fucking thing and get fat like the rest of us. The true believers can have their Christmas and celebrate the birth of a man they know nothing about, and the rest of us can go out and buy shit we don't need and give it to people who don't want it. That's what keeps this country going. If you take that away, our economy tanks, the country goes bankrupt, and we'll just become a nation of puritans that nobody wants to party with. Even the Indians couldn't let that happen. After all, we did just celebrate the big Thanksgiving holiday to commemorate that wonderful love fest, and look how it ended up for the Indians. Maybe the world would have been better off if they had just done the American thing and let them starve to death that winter.

In closing, I'd like to offer a bit of concession to all those that find it troubling that people and stores prefer to use the term "Happy Holidays" during this time of the year. To you I have just one last thing to say that I hope offers some capitulation for your grievances:

Merry Christmas, Asshole!

Are you happy now? Oh, and by the way, Happy Birthday, Jesus.

That's right folks.......pay attention to the "WAR ON CHRISTMAS®™!!!" so that you forget about the futility of the WAR IN IRAQ, the ever mounting death toll, the ineptitude of your president, the corruption of the "FAMILY VALUES PARTY®™" and the ever increasing debt this nation is finding itself in. Instead, wrap your sad little minds around a NON-ISSUE that is the rallying cry for falafel boys everywhere. FOX NEWS:WE DECIEVE, YOU BELIEVE.