Ohhhh, Novak you mean you don't know anything about **the leaking of Brewster Jennings in order to wage illegal war on Iraq?**

Surely Novak you ain't done it.

You didn't get **classified** information from Lewis Libby, and committed treason on national television. You didn't sell your soul out to Karl Rove did you?

Did Michael Ledeen and friends put you up to it, Novak?

I can't wait to see your ass in jail alongside the rest of the treasonous bastards. You're going down Novak, and you damn well **KNOW IT**

:crazy:

Doug E.

This one's priceless. Seeing a NeoCon chickenhawk tirade is quite entertaining. That plus the Bush finger incident is a sign of things to come.

I have no doubt in my mind Robert Fitzgerald is doing his job, just like Ronnie Earle. These guys are honest prosecutors regardless of party lines.

Horkus #2

If you are right, like I hope you are, beer is on me dude!

Will he get fined for his profane language on a Sunday morning Family show?

Hahah! Just Asking #4 Who do we 6 or 7 email about that?

:pouts: I can't download the video :pouts again: Too much network traffic from 6 or 7?

FINALLY! I got to see it.

Well, Novak can sure dish it out, but - what a wuss! He just can't take it.

WEAK! Reminds me of Fearless Fosdick.

I saw it over at Media Matters for America. It’s hard to make out what tipped him over the edge but Carville said something like the --- Wall Street Journal editorial page is watching you so you gotta show them your tough --. and then Nofacts said something like BS and just got up and walked away. I couldn't make out what the other guy said as he and Carville were talking over each other.

I think a BS live on CNN is worth a couple hundred thou ain't it? I was offended. But, then again, Nofacts offends every time he spews right wing talking points and lies.

YES YES YES! I'v waited all day for something this priceless! Get a fresh diaper for Novakula. The only "Bullshit" is that Novak is still on the street and still blathering. However, I hope they keep him around fro just a little longer for the entertainment value. After that, find him a nursing home behind bars.

Novak is small potatoes. Not worth the distraction. When will the real story be out...and when will Americans be willing to open their eyes? Life and death.... maybe...
CLICK HERE

This has a better description than I could muster...
nofacts walks

Just watched the video. I really can't make sense of it out of context. Seemed to be a discussion about Katherine Harris running for the Senate. I don't see Novak cracking up (much as I'd like to). The host (?) said something like "go for it Bob, you've gotta show those right-wingers you've got backbone" (????) Then Novak said "bullshit", ...exit. I take it that Novak didn't come back? Or maybe he was just taking a potty break? Can anyone clarify?

Never mind... saw #11 only after I'd posted. The link answers most of my questions.

I agree, Horkus. It is a very good sign that these people are losing thier cool. The target is on them this time.

But what about Carville? His wife's butt is on the line too, right?

**Howard Wilkinson** also thinks there might be something fishy going on....But won't go out on a limb yet.

4) Optical Scanners are ES&S model 315

Central tabulator runs ERS
--------------------------------------------
Link that supports some of the above

http://news.enquirer.com...01/508040335/1077/NEWS01

Schmidt had the same thing happen in the primary....This is why its very **STRANGE** how the results came out....

"About fifteen minutes ago, a rethug official, a Clermont County
party officer, said that the delay in finishing the last 91 precincts
was due to "high humidity causing some problems in handling the ballots..." BULLSHIT ! (edit - I heard this LIVE on air from an
interview with this official, I think a rethug BoE director. And I believe he said "...we'll hand-count the remaining 91 precincts." So this could have been a lie to give time to rig the tab output. Jes' sayin'.
We NEED to have eyewitness reports.)

The ES&S opscan tabulators and the election workers are in AIR-CONDITIONED ROOMS!!! Are they really so arrogant as to think we're THAT STUPID? Of course they do! (edit - I'd be VERY surprised if ANY polling places were not A-C'd)

BTW, Clermont uses ES&S tabs to "count" opscan paper. This IS the county where ballots were discovered with white stickers
over Kerry votes. WTF happened to THAT crime?

And there's word that "some monitors (people) have been shoved out of the rooms." Not sure if this was in Clermont or
another county, but this has ALL the hallmarks of FRAUD!
(edit - this was reported on air at same time that "there are reports of voting irregularities... But that story died in the media.
Perhaps just a rumor, later proven not true. I don't know...)"
http://tinyurl.com/9jfz5
Doug E.

Pretty weird watching Novak freak out but not unexpected since he's in the line of fire in so many ways. There is also an article that Arlen Specter wrote today slamming Novak for attacking Specter's assistant.

OT - Excited to hear a great plug for Brad by Jim Lampley (on the Ed Schultz radio show) today, Way to go!

Novak has been indefinitely suspended from CNN.

http://news.yahoo.com/ne.../ap_en_tv/tv_cnn_novak_2

:laugh:

THANKS for that, Jaime! Hahahahahahahaha!

The corporate media have suspended Novak!!

"CNN suspended commentator Robert Novak indefinitely after he swore and walked off the set Thursday during a debate with Democratic operative James Carville.

The exchange during CNN's "Inside Edition" came during a discussion of Florida's Senate campaign. But CNN correspondent Ed Henry noted when it was through that he had been about to ask Novak about his role in the investigation of the leak of a CIAofficer's identity.

A CNN spokeswoman, Edie Emery, called Novak's behavior "inexcusable and unacceptable." Novak has apologized to CNN, and CNN apologizes to viewers, she said. "We've asked Mr. Novak to take some time off," she said."

http://news.yahoo.com/ne.../ap_en_tv/tv_cnn_novak_2

Guess the downing street investigation is getting too close, too hot for comfort for the corporate media.....After all, those aiding and abetting **crimes** are also noted to be indicted by the Grand Jury......

Hmmmmm...

Doug E.

But don't you guys get it?

Novak has been suspended for "bad language during a moment of passion" and that is what will be remembered. That is what will sit in the databases for the rest of eternity and come up when you Google Novak.

It is a far cry from being suspended for being a traitor and a liar and a scumsucking... well, you get the idea.

They have "controlled" the situation once more.

These people are dangerous and these are VERY dangerous times we live in. Be careful, or you might wake up in Germany in 1940 and be asking yourself the simple question --- "How did I get to the point where I can't fight back without risking death?"

Charlie L
Portland, OR

Charlie,

Its ironic....But the corporate media are the ones on the run. They know Novak committed probable treason and the evidence is being looked at.

Doug E.

"the corporate media are the ones on the run."

I wish that you were right, Doug, really, I do.

But they control the message. They are the machine. No story goes out that they don't decide goes out, and then it only goes out as they wish it to. And understand, they can "cover" a story by having it on ONCE and their record is clean. Then they can turn to 24-hour-around-the-clock-coverage on some non-story and swamp the little minds of their audience.

We are pawns in a grand chess game. Our moves are small and limited.

If it were not true, then the story of the stolen election in the Ohio 2nd would be on everybody's lips today, instead of buried in a few courageous blogs like this one.

I'm getting depressed. I think I'll sign off for now.

Good luck with the battle.

Charlie L
Portland, OR

I viewed the "With Extra" version at Crooks & liars. Don't know if it was included in other versions floating around, but it was a hoot when the female reporter at the end said "Well we all know what the blogers will be writing about in a few minutes" or something to that affect.

Charlie L #22: Spot-on

Bluebear2 --- Now that's funny. Gee - how perceptive of that reporter. THE BLOGGERS ARE AT THE GATE, SIRE!

Charlie:

Yes, but none of that matters....It is us who are watching them, with the majority of americans not even listening to the corporate media.

And their commentators are under investigation now by the **widening** probe of the Grand Jury.....Don't you suspect that things are not as in control as they want them to be?

Doug E.

CNN spokeswoman:

"We've asked Mr. Novak to take some time off...... and join President Bush on his record-setting 5-week vacation."

The other day, when Novak commented in print for the first time about his role in the "outting", the article (inadvertently??) included Novak's email. I sent him one telling him what I thought of him. I wonder how many other people in America also took advantage of the opportunity to give him a piece of their minds. People like Novak get away with so much, it's a shock when it all starts to catch up with them.

Peggy: Give me his email, I'm going to make sure everyone gives him a large piece of their mind.

That toady piece of shit needs to come out and admit traitor Karl Rove leaked the information to him, at the personal discretion of I. Lewis Libby, who is a convict....And Cheney's stooge.

Doug Eldritch

#23 #24

Echo Kira,

and Bluebear2, thank you for that extra piece of info, which I didn't see/ hear, and which gave me at least a small smile. I am really unhappy about OH-2, and (so far) all evidence that Hackett is going to roll over, instead of contesting.

Peggy, do you still have that Novak email address? Post it if you do? I have a few questions I'd like to irritate him myself with. This incident appears so bizzare for someone who has been in the biz for so long that you know something is pretty heavy in the Novakland.

**DLC Democrats blow a fuse: Evan Bayh reveals himself for the true NEOCON he is!!!!! The gloves come off!!!**

"Senator Evan Bayh, using the newly issued DLC Talking points from last weeks convention, opened the DLC attack on mainstream Democrats by adopting Republican Talking Points and **reinforcing the Republican propaganda that the Democratic party is weak on National Security**. This campaign is cleverly crafted so that if DLC Democrats are not elected, the seat will go to a Pro-Corporate Republican instead of a Democratic contender. "

http://newsobserver.com/.../2609653p-11068999c.html

Now that you bastards can't hide, why are you blaming all of IOWA???

Doug E.

Tell Robert Novak what you REALLY think:

e-mail: novakevans@aol.com

BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

THE BLOGGERS ARE AT THE GATE, SIRE!

LOL KIRA

6 or 7

:)Now that Novak has seen the possible outcome for his bias commentary, he is not ready to be in front of a mass of people when he's asked questions concerning Joseph Wilson and his wife. If the truth is spoken, he cannot escape his part in delivering the punishment for Karl Rove, or probably the president. It could be something like: "where was Robert Novak when he discovered he is just as dishonest as the person who gave him the name of this man's wife. I bet he was on the CNN set ready to do some more slanted commentary when he discovered he could go to jail for his delivery. This did not set well so he said, without knowing it, "Bullshit" and walked off the set. Remember any question can be the end for this man in one-way or another.

Joseph

The bloggers are coming, the bloggers are coming?

**Deputy Rove: Master, what shall we do?**

**King Cheney: Line all the castle walls. Man the forts, and do not let one stray rubicon dissident through. The time has come to get rid of Tony Blair, he's sqeualed too many plans.**

**Deputy Libby: Sir, I can't hold the fort. The water is overflowing the entire base!**

**Prime Minister George: Duh? Uhh...What'd you guys do again? Har har, I'm going to stay in Texas and get ma some dancer harlots..**

**King Cheney: Shut that loud mouth George up...The time has come to nuke Iran and complete the plan. Bolt-ON!!!!**

**Jester of the Court, Bolton: Yes, Sire.**

**King Cheney: Make sure no more Novaks get out of the vaccum, your job is to cover the facts....Go before the United Nations, and bring the wine.**

**Jester Bolton: Of course! I will do my song and dance, and get all the ministers drunk! They will be too hypnotized by my manliness to do anything...Tee hee!**

**Deputy Rove: Perhaps afterwards you and I can have some manly talk with Jeff Gannon, Bolton.**

**King Cheney: Hurry up all of you....Dump the water out, I don't want that scum to leak inside my castle!**

Suddenly, an entire tidal wave begins to cover the whole kingdom!!! THE BLOGGERS ARE HERE!!!!

~By Sir Lancelot

Doug Eldritch

COULD THIS BE WHY????

http://www.arcticbeacon....rticle/1518131/30722.htm

article says handed down this week...mentions big names in big places..

** Word of warning regarding Tom Flocco **

Tom is a far right conservative, he has questionable sources for disinformation.

He is not as credible as Wayne Madsen.

In the end though, this report has reached beyond Flocco. Several other reporters have investigated this to get confirmation.

http://citizenspook.blogspot.com

Bottom line is indictments may have been handed down...

Doug E

Did Novak seem drunk to any of y'all? I only saw it on tiny computer screen, but he appeared lit up...
He acted like a drunk...

I thought it was a possibility he was drunk too, but what drove him to act like such an ass is the bigger question. He appeared to be in control before his sudden "episode". He appeared to have a plan to take offensive the the first slam by Carville-it looked so contrived like a bad actor trying to pull off a scene way beyond his acting skills. I've never heard of Novak doing anything this stupid and infantile looking that I've ever heard of before--though he is a jerk and wacko on a regular basis. If anyone has heard of another time in Novak's TV career that he has done something bizzare in this manner please share.

Maureen: The only alternative explanation is he is about to be indicted for numerous obstruction of justice charges.

Lets clean the whole lot of them out, Novak knows what a worthless POS he is for covering up the crimes of Downing Street.

Doug

Well, CNN is used to the word "Bullsh*t"

Watch this video - Its hillarious...

CNN BULLSH*T COVERAGE OF KARL ROVE

Listen carefully when a female producer says "Bullsh*t" at the time when Lous Dobbs passes the microphone to the reporter....HILLARIOUS... at http://satire.myblogsite.com/blog

What a comedy show. Nobody on CNN gives a damn that Novak outed a C.I.A. operative, a fact that isn't subject to question. God forbid they should suspend him pending the outcome of Fitzgerald's investigation.

But he says "Bullshit" on air and he's suspended. That's "unacceptable." Glad to see CNN has its priorities straight.

Regarding the late update: You can tell you've hit rock bottom when a slimy little snake like Arlen Specter takes a shot at you! Looks good on him!

You know, I wonder if NoHACK did this stunt on purpose? Note that the host said that he was going to pop the question on NoHACK about the Plame incident but never got the chance.

I suspect the little coward took the first jab in his direction, blew up, and stormed off like a drama queen just to avoid getting asked "THE question".

If he's willing to toss his career with CNN into the toilet just to avoid saying something that may bite him on the ass in a court of law later on, just how much does he REALLY know?

#37, tom folloco's name doesn't apppear anywhere in the article, at least from the site i was refering to, so that may mean he's not a source but may just have posted the article.

Bob has always been a jerk, from dy one that he appeared on TV.

Be sure your sins will fine you out and just did. The way he talks he hates everyone who disagrees with him.

As a member of the Christian Left, I would like to impart some words from the Bible... because it seems relevent to the neo con falling from grace we are witnessing here with Mr. Novak's comments:

Quote
2With a mighty voice he shouted:
"Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!
She has become a home for demons
and a haunt for every evil spirit, a haunt for every unclean and detestable bird."
- Revelation 18:2
End Quote

Could it be that the author of Revelations (St. John the Divine) was actually seeing visions of the fall of the neocons in 2005? After all, starting with the Republican Revolution of 1994, we have become more and more like Babylon.

Wow... this is about the most paranoid bunch of kool-aid drinkers I have ever seen. If the Dems and libs want to be relevant again, they need to come up with ideas and solutions, not just tear everyone down who doesn't agree with them.

Sheesh.

I've been waiting a long time for that coffin faced
s.o.b. to get nailed for something. His bowing down
to every dirty Republican in Washington and the
shameful way he pushes his son's book and businesses. I can't wait for him to hang for his
dirty deal with the turd blossom Rove. I'd like to
see him get fired from both jobs instead of just
a suspension of 2weeks off the air. Just the sight
of him with his coffin face along with Rove's turd
face make me sick.

Novaki is one of the biggest chickens ever to be seen on the tube. He is a boob that can dish it out but can't take it, maybe he can find some more scoops from his buddy Karl "marx" Rove! Nice comb over Bob.

At a time when we are fighting for survival vs. an ideology thta has no morality it pains me to see the "left" salivating over such foolishness (I'm tempted to say "bullshit").
How can James Carvill warrant an audience? Only the Clinton News Network would take that clown seriously (plus it appears many commentors to this forum).

Tax, spend and hide your liberal pointed heads in the sand.

Hey, you can't use that name for Novak! That is my name! I am the one and only prince of darkness, that Novak is more grey... :angry:

Sojo #45:

I think you just missed it - here's a snip from the article you posted by Greg Szymanski:

"Heneghen, unavailable for comment and first reported by internet reporter Tom Flocco, allegedly also told sources White House Advisor Karl Rove was indicted for perjury in a major document shredding operation cover-up and that Prime Minister Tony Blair was also indicted for obstruction of justice charges."
~~~

DJ's confused! Just what morality do the neoCons have? IM-morality, that's what.

Wow - it sure helps to have at least 2 brain cells to rub together!

Regarding the continuing breach of national security and the scandal,

#45: Tom Flocco was the first to **report** about the allegations put forward by reporter Lenny Bloom, FBI agent Tom Henegan, and others.

He is not the original source, but he has had questionable sources.

Anyway the update is:
**Tom Flocco's website** no longer works.

http://tomflocco.com/

Someone either hacked the website down, it simply crashed, or it expired. As far as anyone is able to tell there is no way to get into it anymore, and some think big brother might be watching everything to make sure the story is not leaked.

Doug

Doug #54 --- interesting. This bears watching.

Michael Hirtes #44, my thoughts also. Looks like he may be in the hot seat IMHO.

Wesley Clark has worked up a petition seeking the the truth regarding the abuse of prisoners. He is going after Bush and his buddies. It can be found at:

http://ga4.org/campaign/prisonerabuse/?

From Raw Story, Democrats pile it on Novak, 'Can't stand the heat: That's bullshit'.

Includes (snippet):

"If You Can't Stand The Heat...That's Bull*t!" blares a Democratic National Committee release issued Friday. Conservative columnist Robert Novak quit a CNN program live yesterday before taking questions about his role in the outing of a CIA operative, saying, 'that's bullshit.'

"Apparently, Robert Novak was afraid to answer questions in an open forum or perhaps he had to meet with his lawyer,” DNC spokeswoman Karen Finney said in the release. “Either way, he needs to come clean about his conversations with Karl Rove, ‘Scooter’ Libby, and any other Administration officials, and help get to the bottom of this breach of national security."

Here are "The Questions Bob Novak Thought Were Bull*t," according to the DNC. (read on....)

Flocco is also a hard-right conservative, like Lenny Bloom and other reporters for the Arctic Tribune.

Which is why many consider him a disinformation plant, based on his background. But then again, with how many conservatives have turned against the neocons it wouldn't be shocking to find its not disinformation....

Doug

Tip from BuzzFlash

See 4th paragraph from the bottom of the story

Novak, in an interview, said his sources had come to him with the information. "I didn't dig it out, it was given to me," he said. "They thought it was significant, they gave me the name and I used it."

Peggy #59

This is one of the points addressed in Raw Story article:

-----snippet

Novak Changes His Story on How He Got Plame's Name. Novak, in an interview, said his sources had come to him with the information. 'I didn't dig it out, it was given to me,' he said. "They thought it was significant, they gave me the name and I used it." But he then suggested in an op-ed that he got it from the book Who's Who in America, saying that "Once it was determined that Wilson's wife suggested the mission, she could be identified as 'Valerie Plame' by reading her husband's entry in 'Who's Who in America.'" [Newsday, 7/22/2003; Houston Chronicle, 7/31/05]

Does anybody here remember Novak yelling at Al Hunt on CNN's "Crossfire" for being rude and interrupting (this must have been a few years ago)? I'm not at all suprised that Bob walked off the set. He's just a 70+ yr old baby!

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