Brad,

Thank you for brining us this horrible news that Sennsenbrenner created on Friday. He is truly awful and should be punished appropriately.

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Everyone should write their State's representatives in the House and urge a vote in favor of the resolution. I did.

You're right, Brad, the majority really has gone wild. What's going on over there?! Are these people insane? "We can use these rooms, but you can't, so NEENER-NEENER!" Basically Republicans appear to be trying to say that they are the government, and Democrats aren't. :plain:

First they shout you down and end the meeting.

Then they refuse you a room.

Then the people find out the Republicans are out of control.

Then you win.

I'd like the demo responce to be
1. we requested a room out of courtesy
2. Now we demand a room
3. Or we will hold our meetings on the steps outside.

#3 might have its difficulties but can be done and will be certian to get 'some' press coverage.

i am continuously surprised by the even more outrageous behavior of the rethugs. they aren't republicans. they are thugs. look at the video and that will be confirmed. please write your representatives and complain, complain, complain. then put your foot in the democratic insiders' backsides. they need to leave dean alone and go pick on this jerk.

they don't even PRETEND to be interested in democracy anymore.

welcome to congress: democrats need not apply. the constituents who voted you into office do not matter. we're not interested in democracy anymore. if you have the gall to question anything we do, much less major issues like the patriot act or bush lying to the world, we will take away your voice.

and what if democrats continue? we'll get security to escort you from the building? fuck the constitution?

Oh Grrrrr! Mr. Porkface senselessbrenner commie a*hole. Repuclicommies - RepubliCONS - Neo-CONS --- They do NOT represent the Republican Party. Ask Robert Lockwood Mills.

Sorry. This is Flag Day. What should that mean? It should mean that freedom is remembered.

What does it mean today? It means the bully-party wants to subvert freedom for any of us who aren't playing along with their demented game.

Did anyone catch Monday's Al Franken Show? Robert Redford was a guest. He's over it.

He said (in better words than I can) that people should connect the dots. McCarthyism --- Watergate --- current regime ...

By the way --- he said we should make time to laugh and have fun.

But --- all in all --- it's effing sick.

My rant fof the day.

I hear ya, Kira.
Isn't it scary that Sensenbrenner and Bushco have no fear of alienating voters?
No fear of of appearing unfair and unbalanced?
No fear of a future that might have a Democratic majority?
Doo doo, doo doo. Hear the scary shark music?

View clips from "Hijacking Catastrophe".

My eamil to Sensenbrenner:

GOD BLESS you Representative Sensenbrenner for pulling the rug out from the whining cry babies at the so called hearing that they turned into a bitch session.

Thank YOU and I will be sending money to your campaign!

Is there a way to yank Conyers off the Judiciary Committee for wasting your precious time and taxpayer money with his baseless pandering to the left wing hate America types that send him $$ ?

Mr. Sensenbrenner, I know Mr. Conyers is a do nothing earn nothing whiner small person in Congress with little or nothing to add to this Country. But if there is any way for America to take what little power this hungry little pandering old fool has away America would benefit.

Thank you and you have my vote next election.

Jimmo
Drool, drool.

THANK YOU Sennsenbrenner (bet u didn't see that one coming) for helping to ensure that the Conyers forum receives the maximum amount of interest and coverage it deserves. They will most certainly find another location for the hearings, and because of your lameass attempt to snuff them, people will be sure to pay extra attention while realizing just what kind of threat the republican majority poses for America.

Well, last time he basically spat in the democrats faces by attempting to shut down the Patriot Act hearing. This time he's basically pinching a loaf on on their shoes. Honestly, there has to be a way to have this person removed/impeached/censured.

oh, and (#3) jon, thanks for the idea:

:CITIZEN'S ARREST 4 BUSH: if you don't, who will?:

Just the latest abuse of power which isn't going unpunished. I bet all the jimmos in the world didn't expect that one.

He violated house rules, interrupting real meaningful testimony covered under the patriot act. And all for what?

What did they want to hide that was abusive, or not? What's there to exscuse?

All house members should be held to account in signing this resolution, rebuking sensenbrenner for violating House Rules under the governing document.

http://www.usalone.com/warlies.htm

Begin the full press.

I cannot figure out if Jimmo was being sarcastic - or represent his true feelings. If these are your true feelings Jimmo - then you are beyond desperately stupid. There is a difference between hating an increasingly repressive and fascist government and hating your country. You are a moron if you think that at least 1/2 of this country who calls themselves Democrats hate America. Most of us on the left could give a shit about a terrorist - all we are saying make sure that he is in fact guilty. The ironically named Patriot act - allows the govt to without any proof whatsover to lock up individuals and never give them a chance to prove their innocence. One day that person maybe you you idiot.

You know, the Neo-Cons (not traditional conservative Repubs) do not care about the American system of government or Americans. They just care about power, money and winning.
One example: The nuclear option. No less than 100% approval of Bush nominees. Even if that meant destroying the historic role of the Senate in compromise.
The American Eagle needs a right and left wing to fly.

I urge you all to write and call your politicians and complain about that republican thug. Call his office and chew him out. I did!!!

I seem to recall the Rev. Moon was allowed a room to prance about in a robe and wear a crown to award some kind of honors to congressman. Guess rooms are available for Moonies but not duly elected representatives of the people. Those rooms belong to the people of the United States. They aren't any exclusive real estate belonging to the GOP, are they? Whaty this situation really points out too is the unbridled power of unelected GOP staff members.
The other day when Sensebrenner grabbed his toys and left the podium, what I saw was several grown tittering, giggling, and appearing pretty embarassed about what was taking place.

They must have all met and decided it was quite funny and decided that they all wanted to be jump on the Thuglians bandwagon.

What comes to mind for me is AC/DC's "Highway to Hell." These fools seems to be proudly speeding down that highway.
PaintyKat

Thank you #11. Occasionally we need to be reminded of the idiocy we are fighting. Glad I'm not you.

Here's a letter I sent to Sensenbrenner:

Dear Representative Sensenbrenner,

I saw the C-Span replay of the House Judiciary Committee Patriot Act Hearings of 6/10/05. I must say that I have never witnessed such a disgusting display.

Right out of the gate you set a completely negative tone, and your behavior went down hill from there. Even if you have a position different than your Democratic colleagues, or the witnesses, it is completely inappropriate for you to be as coarse, disrespectful, and rude as you were. Those Democrats were, as were you, elected, and they, like you, do also represent the interests of caring Americans.

You sir, based on what I witnessed, are a rabid self-righteous demagogue who seems to be more interested in having things your way, rather than fostering the kind of discourse that could lead to the national unity that will be needed for our country to move forward during these difficult times. When offered the opportunity to listen to and learn from learned experts in the field, you act as if you know it all. That is surely the hight of arrogance. In short, you acted like a big baby. A big totalitarian fascist baby, not like the Chair of an important committee of an honorable American institution.

Congratulations - you have brought political discourse to a new all time low. For shame - for shame.

Jeff Friedman

#8 - Kira --- It *is* time to laugh. It is great fun watching the desperate and hysterical measures by the thugs to contain an uncontrollable flood. This is high comedy with plenty of slapstick thrown in for those of us with a taste for the ludicrous.

By the way, I thought your comment on another thread, "No "Heil" from me", would be a great song title.

Topgun: you are the two percenters of America. You are not the 50% you claim to be. The other 48% of the Democrat party are normal hard working good people but you and the others here ar the losers, the lazy, the whiners, the haters, the abortionists.

Do not insult the good 48% of Democrats by telling me you are one of them because you are not. I left the Democrats long ago because they put up with the likes of you sons & daughters of 1960's hippies.

Get out of our America like you said you would if Bush won.

GET OUT!

Kira:

So tell me, what the hell are all those WARTS on Robert Redfords face? What the hell kind of sexual disease did he get?

Hmmmm?

{Sorry, Jimmo. We have asked you politely many times to post links or urls rather than pasting in articles. Long irrelevant paste deleted!}

Kira and all
Go to Americablog for a cleansing laugh. One of the threads on Mary Cary at the WH. I can't get there from here.

Jimmo and Jerry Moore are freeper trolls who harass posters regulary on the BradBlog. Please do not feed the trolls; they will hopefully die or go away from lack of attention.

Thanks for your reply Jimmo. You just confirmed that you are in fact an idiot.

No Jimmo - you get out you ASSHOLE. I would like to suggest Iraq - there is a shortage of recruits you know. One would think that all you Bush boot lickers would be signing up in droves. You cheer on the Fascist in the white house - but too cowardly to back up your support for this immoral war by serving your Dear Leader - cause it sure would not be to serve this country. And let me disuade you from thinking I am a hippie or product of hippies
(not that there is anything wroing with that)

I have returned from Iraq - just last month - after serving two years past my discharge date. Bitter - damn right? I was so gunghole - until I realized we have been lied to and I lost several friends, and my left leg was blown to bits in Falluja - for what?
I seen and did shit that you blowhards would be pissing your pants and crying for mommy. I will forever have nightmares having killed little kids - for no other reason than they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. When you descend to hell - you become part of it - and the smell of burnt flesh stays seared in your mind forever. I do not blame any of my brothers - war makes you crazy.

Again explain how jailing a person under the Patriot act - and denying him any ability to defend himself? How does jailing innocent people lift our nation? What part of due process do you not understand?

Thanks, Topgun...he needed that!

This jimmo dude would fit right in with our current "leadership", wouldn't he? And people like him wonder why we want to restore honor and decency back into our government - amazing.
Watch the mainstream media coverage of Conyers' hearings - this will tell us a lot about any slant to these media outfits ( either way ). It will also tell us how much importance they attach to truth revealed ( which used to be their main job, I believe ).
Jimmo - go hang out where your "intelligence" is appreciated. Maybe the reptilian section at the zoo.l

Top Gun, Kick it!! Way to go!! Only someone like you knows the truth.
My son is going to Iraq in Sept
Goodnight

I'm in awe that TopGun is here.

Thank you so much for what you have sacrificed for this country. We are truly indebted to you and the other brave men and women who have served in our military.

jimmo is an ass.

Support our troops --- end this war.

BAD SIR BRIAN BOTANY

Sir Brian had a battleaxe with great big knobs on;
He went among the villagers and blipped them on the head.
On Wednesday and on Saturday, but mostly on the latter day,
He called at all the cottages, and this is what he said:

"I am Sir Brian!" (ting-ling)
"I am Sir Brian!" (rat-tat)
"I am Sir Brian, as bold as a lion -
Take that! - and that - and that!

Sir Brian had a pair of boots with great big spurs on,
A fighting pair of which he was particularly fond.
On Tuesday and on Friday, just to make the street look tidy,
He'd collect the passing villagers and kick them in the pond.

"I am Sir Brian!" (sper-lash)
"I am Sir Brian!" (sper-losh!)
"I am Sir Brian, as bold as a lion -
Is anyone else for a wash?"

Sir Brian woke one morning, and he couldn't find his battleaxe;
He walked into the village in his second pair of boots.
He had gone a hundred paces, when the street was full of faces,
And the villagers were around him with ironical salutes.

"You are Sir Brian? Indeed!
You are Sir Brian? Dear, dear!
You are Sir Brian, as bold as a lion?
Delighted to meet you here!"

Sir Brian went a journey, and he found a lot of duckweed;
They pulled him out and dried him, and blipped him on the head.
They took him by the breeches, and they hurled him into ditches,
And they pushed him under waterfalls, and this is what they said:

"You are Sir Brian - don't laugh,
You are Sir Brian - don't cry;
You are Sir Brian, as bold as a lion -
Sir Brian, the lion, good-bye!"

Sir Brian struggled home again, and chopped up his battleaxe,
Sir Brian took his fighting boots, and threw them in the fire.
He is quite a different person now he hasn't got his spurs on,
And he goes about the village as B. Botany, Esquire.

"I am Sir Brian? Oh, no!
I am Sir Brian? Who's he?
I haven't got any title, I'm Botany -
Plain Mr. Botany (B)."

A. A. Milne

So now Jimmo shows his true colors: That of fascism. I think it's high time we severely punish sensenbrenner by having him removed starting with the violation of rules, for failing to uphold the letter of the law and be a decent servant of our civil and constitutional rights.

There is absolutely no exscuse for that behavior, everyone here knows it. Let's not forget what he did. And let's make sure Wisconsin's never forget it by spreading the message everywhere.

I'm sure the liberal who runs against Sensenbrenner next year will be sad to have lost Jimmo's vote.

Man! All of this reminds me of the 60's, only the Bush adm is a lot more dangerous than the lackeys of those days. (Except that Nixon ordered the shootings at Kent State.) We have to get these criminals out of office before things get that out of control again!

We need to find ways to get the MSM to report on the actions of Senslessbrenner and his sidekick McClaughlin. Doesn't he (Senslessbrenner) look right out of the 60's? If voters in Wisconsin knew of his actions, he’d never be reelected.

Thanks for the reminder of some of the great tunes from that era, Kira!

Has anyone seen or heard of this other gem being offered up by Senslessbrenner & co.?

“Republicans have officially started the campaign to amend the Constitution by repealing the 22nd Amendment - the one that confines the President to two terms. If the Republicans hold their current strength, or increase it, in the 2006 Congressional elections, expect this measure to pass allowing Bush to remain President...”

http://portland.indymedi.../en/2005/06/319395.shtml

Sounds like Senselessbrainer is just as out of control.

Blast all your congress, http://www.usalone.com/warlies.htm

And blast all the media, even the coporate media,
http://www.rumormillnews...EDIA_EMAIL_ADDRESSES.htm

Lets take the fight back to them
Dave

Is anyone here an expert in constitutional law?

Is it possible to attach a bill to amend the constitution to another bill (as so many are attached in order to sneak them through)?

Hmm ... leave America?

Let's see most nations in Europe provide citizens with six-weeks paid vacation and pay them an extra month of pay to make sure they have a good time. Citizens get health care from cradle to grave and you get to choose your own doctor. Their public school systems are so good that there is hardly any need for private ones. If one wishes to go to college it costs an average of only $1,500 a year to do so. Expecting mothers get 6 months paid maturnity leave. Pay is such that only one member of the family has to work to support a household.

Amazing what can happen when you don't spend $0.63 of every dollar on the military.

Leave America? It's more like America has left us.

Old Hippy

RE: COMMENT #39
First: I say, I am not a Republican, am a Democrat --Now. Here is minimal research. I must quit here.

109th Congress
H. J. Res. 24: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the 22nd amendment to...
Introduced:Feb 17, 2005
Sponsor:Rep. Steny Hoyer [D-MD]
Status:Introduced (By Rep. Steny Hoyer [D-MD])
Last Action:Feb 18, 2005: Introductory remarks on measure. (CR E302-303)
===========

It is interesting to note that of the 8 epresentatives who sponsored the two proposal, 6 are democrats.

Mr. HOYER - Democrat
Mr. HYDE - Republican
Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts - Democrat
Mr. SENSENBRENNER - Republican
Mr. BERMAN - Democrat
Mr. SABO - Democrat
Mr. PALLONE - Democrat
Mr. SERRANO - Democrat

The full text of each follows. If you would like to look these up yourself, go to: http://thomas.loc.gov and then, under BILL NUMBER, paste in: "H.J.RES.25.IH" or "H.J.RES.11.IH."

109TH CONGRESS
H. J. RES. 24
1ST SESSION

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the 22nd amendment to the Constitution.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
FEBRUARY 17, 2005
Mr. HOYER (for himself, Mr. BERMAN, Mr. SENSENBRENNER, Mr. SABO, and
Mr. PALLONE) introduced the following joint resolution; which was re-
ferred to the Committee on the Judiciary

JOINT RESOLUTION
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United
States to repeal the 22nd amendment to the Constitution.

1 Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives
2 of the United States of America in Congress assembled (two-
3 thirds of each House concurring therein), That the fol-
4 lowing article is proposed as an amendment to the Con-
5 stitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all
6 intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when
7 ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several
8 States within seven years after the date of its submission
9 for ratification:

1 ``ARTICLE --
2 ``The twenty-second article of amendment to the Con-
3 stitution of the United States is repealed.''.

HJ 24 IH

Lindy #41 - I saw that, and on the website there is history of the bill (it's in subcommittee since April)

What I was wondering is, if it could be attached to another bill so that Senators signing the bill could possibly approve this part too without noticing it (it's happened before, when they said they didn't have time to read a multitude of pages before they had to vote - which to me is scary as hell)

It sounds far-fetched - but at one time, so did any attempt to repeal the 22nd amendment being backed by both parties.

I swear, sometimes lately I feel as if I've stepped into a Dali painting.

Kes #42 -

No, to amend the Constitution, an entirely different procedure is required: 2/3 majority (in both houses, I believe) and then it must be passed on to the states for ratification. I'll find the lawyerly reference for you later!

EWASTUD #26-

I think you misread Jerry Moore's comment #19. Pretty sure he's being sarcastic in the first sentence and is actually berating Jimmo. Reread it and I think you'll agree.

Hi Peg! Love ya! Here's another one:

From my generation (Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young):

Long time gone

It's been a long time coming
It's going to be a long time gone

And it appears to be a long, appears to be a long
Appears to be a long time
Such a long, long time before the dawn

Turn any corner, hear what the people say
You know that something is going on around here
It surely, surely, surely won't stand the light of day

Speak out, you got to speak out against the madness
You got to speak your mind if you dare
Don't, no don't try to get yourself elected
If you do you had better cut your hair ...CHORUS

But you know, the darkest hour
Is always just before the dawn

...topgun,

If Jimmo sent such a e-mail, it was a needle in a haystack of hate mail that will never be read by Sensenbrenner. Did this clown Jimmo just reveal that he lives in WI. He would have to, if he plans to vote for Senselessbraindead. WI., is the new home of the John Birch society by the way. Is that you Ralph? Are you Ralph Thompson, Jimmo? You sound like it. You smell like him, too

Re# 41

Dems may like that idea, and pugs will never go for it because it means Slick Willie would be able to run again in 2008, and take the WH in a landslide. The pugs know that, too.

I was wondering: I plan on going to a recruitment office and picking up forms to sign up for this foolish, illegal war. When I meet a foolish repuke ideolouge who supports this administration, I plan on giving them the sign up sheet. I want to watch them squirm out of this one.

Anyone have any thoughts about this?

Peg re #43 - I know about the ratification process, was just wondering about the "pushing it through Congress" part - sorry, I'm finding it very hard not to think the worst of these people.

But think about it - would we be using any different ballot system for ratification of an amendment than the election system that was used to place and keep Bush in office?

Clemis re #45 - I know, I thought about that when I saw that Dems were sponsoring and co-sponsoring the resolution. I'm afraid some may see it as a way to get Clinton back into office - without considering the fact (or maybe ignoring it) that the Republicans still own the machines!

Elections have to be very close to be stolen in this country without all kinds of alram bells going off that even the media couldn't ignore. Just my humble opinion.

I believe that Chairman Sensenbrenner, over steped his authority. when he cut off the Minority on the patriot act hearing. He was in violation of the Robert rules of order. also in not giving the Minority A room to hold hearings is another slap in the face to all Americans. Both Dems. and Repubs. It's time to hold true hearings, on health care, Jobs, Social Security, Global warming. All we hear about is voting Judges up or down. Hearings on Costume malfuntions? Oil for food scandal? What about hearings on taxes, Pensions that are being taken away? No child left behind money scandal.

The Pubbies have apparently caved and the Conyers hearing will be on C-Span 3 (2:30PM Eastern according to the latest). If the URL isn't visible below, click on the website box.

Conyers on DemNow: http://tinyurl.com/8pubq

For IMHO: It depends on what you mean by "close."
If we look at the electoral map before the election, there were 11 swing states that both sides knew would decide the election.

All these states happened to use electronic voting machines and/or optical-scan tabulators. It has been proven by Bev Harris and others that hacking these machines is a lead-pipe cinch. It doesn't take anything remotely close to a "grand conspiracy." All it takes is a few people to program machines in these states to flip every tenth vote, or every twentieth vote, from Kerry to Bush. As you must know, reports of vote flipping were almost exclusively in this direction...which according to the laws of probablility cannot have been random.

Tabulators can be used to flip huge blocks of votes (limited only by the size of a precinct) from one candidate to another. This was done in Ohio, Florida, and New Mexico...all from Kerry to Bush.

How would the media know about this, IMHO?

I am an 85 year-old American living in France since 1967. I served in the Navy during WWII and I was as patriotic as it is possible to be. But today, I am ashamed of what has been happening to MY country since GW Bush was permitted to occupy the Oval Office. I know that my life is approaching its end. I only hope I live long enough to see Bush and his henchmen guillotined and their heads set up on top of the Washington Monument!!! I hope you will take the time to examine my website to learn more about me and my convictions. Many thanks to Rep. Conyers and all the other "good guys". They have stars in their crowns.

Matilda Lipscomb
2 rue des Tonnelles
34080 Montpellier
FRANCE
(33)497-52-48-14

What is it going to take to oblige GW Bush and Dick Cheney to testify UNDER OATH??? Our government saw fit to impeach Bill Clinton for lying about a personal impropriety with a consenting adult. His testimony was shown on television and on the internet. One of the comments I heard was, "Of course he lied about that....any gentleman would." And my French friends said..."Oh you Americans!!! If we perssecuted our politicians this way, we wouldn't have a government!!" Bush MUST be made to testify under oath. Matilda Lipscomb

Blog on, Brad!

The distinguished Rep. Mr. COnyers links you. Much respect, long time no blog here(for me).

Perhaps a petition to for recall election os Sensenbrenner can occur?

Hello Matilda Lipscomb!

I wandered into your site back in 2004 and was awestruck by your powerful patriotism. I sent your front-page piece to all on my email list back then.

Thank you so much for taking the time to put together your excellent website! I gained a lot of energy from my visits there. I'm sorry I never posted to help you out on your forum --- from the rightwingers who are so hypnotized by the Geobbels-speak.

It was at your site I found many extremely powerful and useful quotes.

Rock on, Brave Wise Woman!!! And Thank You!

Oh, Matilda --- I forgot to say --- Please post here as often as you can, your viewpoints are so motivating and like a balm for exhausted freedom fighters.

From Matilda's site ( a "got to read" site )
" But I am convinced that we CAN do something. We can stand up and be counted. I remember when the American flag was displayed on the front lawn of the John Birch Society members. I guess that was when my patriotism began to sag. But I also remember the millions of yellow ribbons around lamp posts and trees when our fellow Americans were being held hostage. Well, today the fact is our country is being held hostage, and we can demonstrate our protest the same way...not by flying the flag, but by tying yellow ribbons around trees. Even better....we can tie the yellow ribbons around flagpoles. And we can keep those ribbons there until our country is freed from the HOSTAGE situation in which it is being held by the media whores and the Republican rapists."

Great plan ,hows that song go ....tie a ...

Hello Matilda Lipscomb!
I've always wanted go dancing with a lady with the name Matilda.
A waltz maybe .........France was it ,that alright we Aussies travel well ,what do you say Matilda ?

P.S. got a boy friend?

we can not defend democracy abroad and abandon at home

but the war in iraq and afghanistan are dending democracy abroad while patriot act is abandoning it at home this lowers the bar for freedom

the usa is home of the free so if freedom is lost dimished it allows all other contrys to lower standerds to or below are own this is a global promblem first other western contrys like britin

http://home.uni-one.nl/p...n/Read_more/politics.htm

in the end I dont want the us constitution or any foreign constitution to read somthing like this

all living human beens are people unless parliament rules other wise

all poeple have the freedom of speech unless other wise dictated by law all speech is protected unless dictated other wise dictated by law

now this style of constitutional law would provide no protion are rights but the patriot act is worded no different some spots and if up held by the courts we could very well have a interpretation of the us constitution just like the sample I gave above worded different but the end result would be the same

what if the patriot act becomes law as is whats next laws that are classified them selves so combined with the idea that Ignorance of the law is no excuse breaking the law now anyone can be areasted for anything in the name of national security

quotes.ibnerd.net/politicalquotes_1.html

After 9/11, Bush made two statements: “Terrorists hate America because America is a land of freedom and opportunity.” and “We intend to attack the root causes of terrorism.” ..Sounds like everything is going according to plan.