READER COMMENTS ON
"The Lost Hour..."
(21 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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BUSHW@CKER
said on 5/8/2005 @ 3:54 am PT...
May 6th, 2005 12:47 pm
Controversial lobbyist had close contact with Bush team
WASHINGTON (AP) — In President Bush's first 10 months, GOP fundraiser Jack Abramoff and his lobbying team logged nearly 200 contacts with the new administration as they pressed for friendly hires at federal agencies and sought to keep the Northern Mariana Islands exempt from the minimum wage and other laws, records show.
Full Associated Press story here from USA Today site.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
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Torqued
said on 5/8/2005 @ 4:11 am PT...
It is rumored that "language filters" are kicking in everywhere that the truth is being spoken. Will it also happen here?
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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teresa
said on 5/8/2005 @ 5:15 am PT...
I just ran across one of my favorite characters in my reading... the Greek god Apollo.
"Apollo is an image of that hope and faith which spring not from any one person's striving, but from all of us, a human inheritance of nobility and determination which can restore a man's faith in himself because it is also a faith in the meaningfulness and purpose of the human journey.
Apollo symbolizes that indomitable spirit that has always struggled against superstition, helplessness, ignorance, and bondage to fatalism and desapair."
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Winter Patriot
said on 5/8/2005 @ 6:52 am PT...
Raw Radio indeed!! Catch that extra half-hour of Raw Radio, folks! Keep those dimes and nickels coming in too, if you can ... we couldn't do this without your support!
If you are willing and able to contibute, please click here for more details.
And it might not be a bad idea to consider this an open thread...
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 5/8/2005 @ 8:31 am PT...
Torqued #3
You may have a point. It could have been hacked.
WP #4 says open thread. So, here is a link to a story about a new book written by an interpreter (like Sibel Edmonds) at Guantanamo.
The guy was an avid Bush supporter until he spent about 6 months at Gitmo. He details the abuse and why he is not a bu$hit supporter now (link here).
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Steve
said on 5/8/2005 @ 11:41 am PT...
Dredd-
I believe this was the guy (Erik Saar) that "60 Minutes" did a segment with last Sunday.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Winter Patriot
said on 5/8/2005 @ 12:51 pm PT...
"automatic language filter"??? What language were you guys speaking, Beylorussian??
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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zinger
said on 5/8/2005 @ 1:05 pm PT...
{irrelevant and abusive post removed}
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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zinger
said on 5/8/2005 @ 1:07 pm PT...
Dredd:
Go read the Amazon.com reviews of his "book". His buddies that were in Gitmo when he was there have outed him as a whining momma's boy who is just out to make a buck.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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zinger (205.188.117.137)
said on 5/8/2005 @ 1:11 pm PT...
{one name per poster, please!}
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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zinger (205.188.117.137)
said on 5/8/2005 @ 1:15 pm PT...
{multiple personality disorder is no excuse}
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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factchecker (205.188.117.137)
said on 5/8/2005 @ 1:39 pm PT...
{This post has been deleted because the poster used multiple names to make multiple posts. That's a no-no!}
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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Horkus
said on 5/8/2005 @ 1:45 pm PT...
Zinger, you don't seem to understand the parliamentary system. Here goes.
Citizens in a parliamentary system don't directly elect their Prime Minister. They elect their local officials. Their local officials in turn vote for the Prime Minister. The Labour party took a beating in the elections and their overwhelmingly strong majority took a beating. They lost
a lot of Labour seats to the Liberal dems. If it were up to the citizens of the UK, Tony Blair would have been voted to be put on a stretcher.
Just thought I'd inform you.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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Horkus
said on 5/8/2005 @ 2:27 pm PT...
Factchecker, does a factual error by an author mean the whole abuse scandal never happened? No, I've seen the pictures.
The publishers aren't pulling the books off the shelves entirely. They just want to restock the shelves with the factual correction. This is according to the news source you posted.
The just I'd clarify your post.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Horkus
said on 5/8/2005 @ 2:29 pm PT...
Just thought I'd clarify your post.
Misprint on my part in the last line.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Winter Patriot
said on 5/8/2005 @ 2:41 pm PT...
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Winter Patriot
said on 5/8/2005 @ 2:56 pm PT...
re #9: anyone can post book reviews at amazon. Most of the so-called reviews attached to left-leaning non-fiction is written by freeper trolls who have never even read the books. Hardly worth reading, let alone discussing.
Disgusting, yes! But not worth discussing.
Talk about a bunch of sick losers....
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Torqued
said on 5/8/2005 @ 5:01 pm PT...
Darn it, I missed the "less than two" bootlicking troll(s). By the looks of things I didn't miss much though, huh? Was (s)he upset over gonzales' torture policies? bush/abramoff gop fundraising scandal? Apollo? Too bad "factchecker", there is a bit more I'd like to share with you.
Read it and weep singular zinger, your hero still (as of yesterday) believes that Most detainee abuse reports don't qualify as torture!
Do you remember reading (you are allowed to read, correct?) the DOJ Interrogation Bybee Memo(PDF)? Within part 1 of this document is the following block of statements:
"We conclude that for an act to constitute torture as defined in Section 2340, it must inflict pain that is difficult to endure. Physical pain amounting to torture must be equivalent to intensity to the pain accompanying serious physical injury, such as organ failure, impairment of bodily function, or even death. For purely mental pain or suffering to amount to torture under Section 2340, it must result in significant psychological harm of significant duration, e.g., lasting for months or even years. We conclude that the mental harm also must result from one of the predicate acts listed in the statute, namely: threats of imminent death; threats of infliction of the kind of pain that would amount to physical torture; infliction of such physical pain as a means of psychological torture; use of drugs or other procedures designed to deeply disrupt the senses, or fundamentally alter an individual’s personality; or threatening to do any of these things to a third party."
Tell me now factchecker zinger, why is your hero still running his mouth condoning torture while getting beat over the head with facts like this?
Are all your pod people equally stupid?
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Matt
said on 5/9/2005 @ 4:28 am PT...
Wow that is just sad....The freepers now flood websites like this, to stand up for the likes of Joe Scarborough.
Anybody standing up for the likes of him or condoning this leve of torture, is in need of some serious mind therapy. Let alone rehabilitation!
I'm just amazed that these men and women claim to speak for god. Will hypocrisy never get greener?
Matt
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 5/9/2005 @ 10:57 am PT...
Matt #19 The hypocrisy may not get any greener, and the polls show that it is green enough that even those in the red states can see it.
The two neocons that lead the house and the senate and the neocon who leads the administrative branch have attacked the last bastion where neocons are NOT in the majority - the judicial branch.
The necon agenda is to corrupt the judicial branch next.
Clearly the green has been identified as Solient Green (a.k.a bu$hit green) and there are enough americans who know the true colors of that ideology and are now rejecting it.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 5/9/2005 @ 11:18 am PT...
zinger #9 and mutipersonalities
All of us who were born human were born to mother and father. We are all momma's and poppa's boys and girls. It is a good thing.
Those of you who have been mass produced are different, however, you have no high moral ground from which to make condescending declarations a la Agent Smith to Morpheus.
And as regards making a buck by selling a book, that is capitalism of the natural kind.
Your fuehrer likes to take it by military means instead of doing it the natural capitalist way. You know, the old fashioned way of earning it.
Yep, your bu$hit agenda lacks the cognitive ability to conceive of ways to live in an economically competitive world, bucko.
So when someone gets a good position on the monopoly board, you whack them cause you do not understand or believe in capitalism. To you buck is just a four letter word.
Then after you take their land you take them into your jails to be there for an unending length of time. It takes you that long to figure out what they did or did not do.
While there they will be enduring "non torture" of the devastating to body and soul kind. In your derelict writing you poo poo any anti-torture criticism as quaint.
Just remember what happened to Agent Smith.