READER COMMENTS ON
"Reality Chart of the Moment: Lack of Healthcare, Salmonella Far More Dangerous Than Terrorism"
(22 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Brian R
said on 12/29/2009 @ 5:42 pm PT...
To me this graph doesn't add up.
10,000 Deaths from Swine Flu? C'mon.
Lack of Insurance? Insurance is probably why MORE people die every year than lack of.
That chart to me resembles the terror threat level charts, but on a different psycholigical plain.
This one wants you to buy insurance and fear guns and swine flu, rather than address lack of self empowering education and corrupt government.
oh well...
You're point is not wrong Brad, I totally agree, but I approach it differently. Cheers.
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Ernest A. Canning
said on 12/29/2009 @ 6:31 pm PT...
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nunya
said on 12/29/2009 @ 6:49 pm PT...
Wow, lack of insurance finally beat out traffic accidents, eh?
*sigh*
And who knows what delights the TSA has in store for us?
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zapkitty
said on 12/29/2009 @ 8:18 pm PT...
"The War On Salmonella"...
... cost of MQ-9 Reaper: $10.5 million.
... cost of 14 Hellfire MAC thermobaric warhead missiles for MQ-9: $1.26 million.
... cost of corporate-mandated "1 missile/1 bacterium" doctrine: $90,000 per microbe.
... Blackwater ("Xe") drone operators
blowing up U.S. chicken coops with a collateral damage of exactly 30 dead hens each... no more, no less...: priceless.
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nora
said on 12/29/2009 @ 11:40 pm PT...
War on Salmonella!
Whoop! Whoop! Whoop!
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nora
said on 12/29/2009 @ 11:44 pm PT...
Hey, try some aspirin stats next. NSAIDs used to cause maybe 12,ooo gastro-intestinal bleeding deaths each year.
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Soul Rebel
said on 12/30/2009 @ 2:45 am PT...
I think we need to have a pre-emptive strike on teenagers. Apparently they have a new WMD called "typical teenage angst" and are willing to use it.
Clearwater Police Department detectives say the young couple poured gasoline on Nancy Broadhead's bedroom floor and bed, and then set the room aflame.
Police spokeswoman Elizabeth Watts said a motive was "probably just typical teenage angst."
I wonder if we can blame this on Bush/Cheney? You know, the standards they set...
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Big Dan
said on 12/30/2009 @ 7:37 am PT...
You need health insurance to get health care. That's why we need to get rid of health insurance and give everyone the right to health care. You shouldn't have to have something called "health insurance" to get health care when you need it. Because, if you don't have health insurance, you don't get health care. Get rid of the middle man, the health insurance industry, which prevents people from getting health care.
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Big Dan
said on 12/30/2009 @ 7:38 am PT...
Why should you have to buy something (health insurance) to get health care when you need it?
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PLUNGER
said on 12/30/2009 @ 8:01 am PT...
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Big Dan
said on 12/30/2009 @ 8:20 am PT...
How about this: 45,000 Americans dying each year due to lack of health insurance is:
FIFTEEN 9/11'S PER YEAR, more than one a month.
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Kev117
said on 12/30/2009 @ 9:20 am PT...
Drunk drivers? How about regular ol' flu deaths?
That kills tens of thousands every year.
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maxi
said on 12/30/2009 @ 9:30 am PT...
How about a breakdown between true terrorism and false flag terrorism? I just don't buy this incompetent/brain damaged "cock bomber" as anything other than a pathetic patsy. There was no realistic plan to cause damage here. The purpose was to stampede the lemmings, apparently successful.
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czaragorn
said on 12/30/2009 @ 10:29 am PT...
I agree, Maxi! Let us try to separate the wheat/chaff from the false/terr'ist flag, forthwith! The numbers would be revealing...
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lottakatz
said on 12/30/2009 @ 2:03 pm PT...
Big Dan: "You need health insurance to get health care. That's why we need to get rid of health insurance and give everyone the right to health care."
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Exactly, or you need to be able to pay out-of-pocket at point of service- either way people with money get health care and people without don't, unless they're indigent to the point that you qualify for food subsidies too. Even then, when you need the care your insurance has been anticipating you might not get it if there's a way to deny it.
That really isn't going to change much with the new 'mandated insurance' people are going to have to buy if the Senate gets its way. Insurance companies won't be able to refuse care or kick you out because of a pre-existing condition but they will be able to do so if you secure their services through misrepresentation or fraud based on the current Senate bill language. Call me paranoid if you like but I have every faith that in the future under the 'mandate' that case of acne you had when you were 14 isn't going to be called a 'pre-existing condition didn't disclose' but will now disqualify you for care based on 'fraud and misrepresentation'.
99 said in a posting elsewhere that she couldn't believe people weren't protesting the fact that you have to have someone look at you virtually naked before you get on a plane, referring to the new soft x-ray screening machines. I can't believe people aren't in the street protesting the fact that the Senate has decided that everyone will buy insurance and be fined by the IRS if they do not. And those among us that over the years would forgo raises and other employment benefits in order to have a good insurance program (which is by no means so much better than other insurance that it deserves the label 'Cadillac') will be taxed on that plan as we will under the Senate bill.
This is unprecedented and will lead to less insurance I bet. It will be easier for a small business to pay a fine than provide insurance, it will cost less. That 'hole' in coverage for prescription drugs was not closed and big pharma has been protected against generics, re-importation and negotiation for reduced cost. Over time, this is going to be a larger transfer of
wealth than the Wall Street bailout. This is the perfect melding of corporate interests and government power: is that not fascism once you surround it with the mechanisms of a police state, which we do have in place?
What was the question? I fear I got off on a rant there and I started typing this to make one small point herein: One of the arguments against universal coverage or other, lesser, forms of public care is the loss of jobs in the insurance industry. Well, that's just absurd. A properly run public health-care plan should be labor intensive because all of the money being diverted to the insurance industry can and should be mainlined into health-care delivery at the patient and 1st tier bookkeeping level.
Neighborhood clinics should sprout like weeds; home-care visits should be the daily norm as long as people are having drive-by surgery's; wellness and nutrition training including how to cook a healthy, cost effective meal should be offered at every grocery store in the 'wellness' section (why not put them there?); since women are sent home 15 minutes after childbirth why not send a nanny with them 8 or 12 hours a day for a week or so? Think of the possibility for job creation with good health care.
I'd like to see Alan Grayson get up and give a talk about health-care and terrorism using your chart Brad.
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Big Dan
said on 12/30/2009 @ 2:52 pm PT...
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Big Dan
said on 12/30/2009 @ 2:55 pm PT...
Who owns the body x-ray machine? What company? I bet they ram that in conveniently with this underpants bomber thing and everyone connected to the body x-ray machine makes $$$'s.
This whole story stinks! ZERO people died and the media covers it 100% 45,000 Americans die due to lack of health care in 2009.
What's a bigger story: ZERO or 45,000???
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Big Dan
said on 12/30/2009 @ 2:56 pm PT...
Who's making out on the full body x-ray machines they'll ram in like e-vote machines everywhere?
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Soul Rebel
said on 12/30/2009 @ 4:08 pm PT...
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chris duncan
said on 12/30/2009 @ 7:22 pm PT...
I have to take offense at this! I work at the National Centers for Infectious Diseases at the CDC in Atlanta. I work DIRECTLY with the Salmonella labs and I can tell you that they wage war every day against this Socialist Communist bacteria! At least when W was the prez and we had the outbreak of West Nile Virus he tried to send troups to West Nile (couldn't find it on the map though)!
Peace...
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lottakatz
said on 12/30/2009 @ 9:48 pm PT...
chris duncan: "(W) ... he tried to send troups to West Nile (couldn't find it on the map though)!"
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Thank ghod it wasn't an outbreak of German measles!
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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ed
said on 1/2/2010 @ 7:08 pm PT...
Seems there is no international terrorism, just state terrorism against the states' own citizens. This chart is a distraction. "Don't look over there, look over here!" "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" --- the Great Oz.