Yesterday, both Greta Van Susteren on Fox “News” and Ed Schultz on MSNBC asked the very same viewer poll question during their shows:
Results from viewers as of last night…
 YES: 3% – NO: 97% Total Votes (via website): 7,410 |
 YES: 94% – NO: 6% Total Votes (via text msg): “Over 22,000” |
Two Americas.
Easily explained: When I lived in Georgia (where those who voted were, at best, pretending that their vote was actually counted), we had a large proportion of the population who were rednecks, and who liked being made fun of with redneck jokes, because, well, they were the focus of attention. “Proud to be stupid”. They watch Fox News.
I read the Roling Stone article and it does not seem too harsh. Some juvenile jabs at Biden, mostly by aides. Lots of anonymous gung ho quotes frome soldiers like “I thought I was gonna get my gun on”
and “we should just waste the fuckers”
but nothing near firing worthy out of the Generals mouth. So, why the big hoopla?
What is going on that needs a distraction for cover?
maybe a correction: those soldier quotes may well have been attributed, with names.
hokey pokey politics. we’re all so busy putting the right jerks in pulling the right jerks in putting the left jerks in and pulling the left jerks in that neither the left nor the right jerks do anything other than shake us all about and get what they want from us – more war, more war profits, more war profiteers.
http://www.rollingstone.com/pol...S_show_page=0#
Hastings did a good job. The article’s worth reading. McCrystal’s done what his boss (whichever boss that is) instructed and then some all along. Anyone think Gates has a problem with McCrystal?
They’re running out of excuses to spend 5 or 10 times a year what a country’s gdp is just to get their asses shot off shoring up the CIA’s lock on the world’s heroin market. (and now we hear our children’s lithium market)
Makes the subscriptions to R/S and BB worthwhile.
The results from the far-right station are pretty much what I would expect. Republicans are authoritarians and Stanley McChrystal is a authoritarian’s wet dream — right down to the uniform.
Fox viewers don’t care whether or not their leaders do a good job; they only care whether or not their leaders are belligerent assholes who demonstrate complete disregard for widely accepted standards of decency. (I’m not taking a shot here; that’s really how they feel. Take torturer Dick Cheney for instance.)
But the results from the moderate station are somewhat surprising. According the Ed poll, 94% of the moderate listeners may be looking for something new in Afghanistan. Already! It’s hard to say for sure, because Obama isn’t going anywhere and Ed has been a cheerleader in opposition to McChrystal. But the numbers are so tilted that I can’t help but be encouraged.
I wish they would run the same polls for David Petraeus. Like, right now.
Get out.
Hey, that reminds me – whatever became of Dick Cheney. Remember him? A couple of months ago he was storming all over this once-great nation – the same nation he helped to destroy – warning his brain-dead, clueless constituency what a danger the Obama administration posed for this troubled country. Three months ago you could not shut the hideous, gnarled old freak up. What happened to him?
I’ll tell you what happened to him: At this very moment, our esteemed, former vice-president is in some “undisclosed location”, meeting with a team of the cleverest lawyers money can by. The gazillion dollar justice hammer is within months of crashing down on the spiteful old bugger with a vengeance he doesn’t dare contemplate (bad heart, you know). Very soon the executives of BP will stand before a court of law. When that day arrives, they will spill their miserable guts as to what REALLY went on in those secret meetings between the Bush Mob and the oil industry in the early months of that hideous administration. It’s ain’t gonna be pretty, boys and girls. Not pretty at all.
Dick Cheney’s days as a “beloved elder statesman are” seriously numbered. Very soon it will be apparent to nearly everybody (Tea Partiers excluded) what a hideous, dreadful mistake it was to send these hideous people to Washington a decade ago. Count on it.
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@Tom Degan, #6: Dream on, my friend. It’s a beautiful dream, and I wish I could join you therein, but it’s just a dream. Cheney, Bush, BP execs., Rumsfeld, Rove, etc., the whole gang of them will NEVER stand before the bar of justice, and they will NEVER be held accountable for ANYTHING they’ve ever done. Take it down and memorize it, because that’s the truth, that’s the reality.
@Tom Degan:
I have to agree with Steve. And Cheney is probably House writing policy for Barack Obama. Their policies are the same, after all.
Barack Obama squandered an opportunity to do some good. Just another corporate house-servant. I suspected right from the get-go that he’d be another palace eunuch, when he failed to defend Dennis Kucinich’s right to participate in Democratic primary debates. Sadly, my fears were realized. My father actually had some high hopes for Obama, but passed away before the farce of Obama’s leadership, so I guess the Grim Reaper spared him one disappointment.
(Weren’t Joe Lieberman’s antics far more treacherous than General McChrystal’s, or am I missing something?)
When it comes to there being two Americas, here’s a case in point (in the area of justice):
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/062...supreme-court/
W never fired generals for saying the wrong things? …he did it several times, Gates too…such double standards make conservative critics so uncredible…who cares about policies or consistent ideology…its all about your “team” and your team is always saintly in your mind, all their ill doings can be ignore, exceptionalized, explained away…but even when Obama and congress pass a health care bill that was mostly in line with Repub think tank ideas and their professed policies (even in the form of Bills authored by Repubs) in the 90’s, suddenly when Obama does these same things its suddenly in their minds socialized medicine further left than Canada, Britain or France which factually it is not, our new HDR is still to the right of all developed nations including Switzerland
it is not what is said and done, but who it is said and done by that matters to conservatives
By the way, proof liberal blogs/pundits etc have consistent principles regardless of who is doing it, HuffPost headline now is Dems Side with Wall Street Again
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2..._n_623573.html
never remember seeing conservative blog, like say drudge or Foz spouting off about how horribly against conservative prinicples the Repub Congress, Repub president passage of deficit busting Medicare Part D was…naw, no one said a freaking
Liberal can hold consistent principles regardless who is slinging them, conservatives are sheeple for the team, always siding with team no matter how far team strays away from their principles