READER COMMENTS ON
"Immediate Action Item: Siegelman Asks For Our Help in Demanding Congress Hold Rove in Contempt"
(19 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Billman
said on 7/9/2008 @ 9:40 pm PT...
While I agree that the Siegelman case demands immediate action, and I will be calling my representative and the Judiciary Committee.
But I find myself asking once again, what good will it do? John Conyers has proven he is capable of nothing more than a strongly worded letter. I fear that is all we will see happen. Contempt charges won't mean a thing either. Harriet Miers and Josh Bolton are laughing at the current contempt of congress charge.
Sadly, Conyers and the rest of the committee don't have the balls to do anything more than what they have done to this point (which was nothing more than lip service).
I wish they'd actually do something substantial, but they have had 16 months to do something, what makes you think they will start now? They are all talk and NO action. I am almost as done with them and their inaction as I am with the republicans and their gleeful shredding of the Constitution.
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Steve Heller
said on 7/9/2008 @ 9:50 pm PT...
Billman, I absolutely share your frustration, these jellyfish Dems. have repeatedly failed in their duties as the "loyal opposition." It's been driving me freakin' crazy!
But I feel that it's never a waste of time to push for justice, even if, as so often has happened lately and throughout history, justice is denied or delayed.
We must keep striving for justice, accoutability, and the rule of law (not to mention clean elections!). If we give up and stop trying, all is surely lost.
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Bamboo Harvester
said on 7/9/2008 @ 9:57 pm PT...
You'll see pelosi pole dance and pick up quarters ... before rove testifies . . .
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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Billman
said on 7/9/2008 @ 11:30 pm PT...
Steve, thank you for the direct reply.
Rest assured, I will still be making calls and writing them to pursue this and other matters.
But honestly, I can't help but come back to the saying of; The best prediction of future behavior is past behavior. And based on that, I am losing have lost a lot of faith in the people I felt would make a tangible difference.
The republicans are willing to pull ever dirty trick in the book (and then some) to get what they want, and the current crop of democrats roll over and take it with all the fight of 2 month old puppy.
I truly hope for clean elections, but when even someone like Brad has issues at his local precinct and has to file a complaint, my skepticism is running pretty high.
Now, back to the issue at hand. I believe there is no possibility Rove will testify. And no chance the judiciary committee or congress will do anything (beside say how outraged they are) to make him. Tragically, Rove will never see a day in jail for this crime.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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naschkatze
said on 7/10/2008 @ 5:45 am PT...
Thank you for providing the e-mail contact with the Judiciary Committee. I have written them. Might I suggest, Steve and The BradBlog, that you get this excellent post up on other sites with which you have good relationships? Because you have made contact with the committee more accessible, I think many more readers would send their thoughts to Congress.
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Phil
said on 7/10/2008 @ 6:01 am PT...
I wonder, is there only freaking SIX people in the whole United States that took action and care?
I mean you'd figure 300 million people, more than Six Comments.
I'm getting the feeling there's only handful of us that care about this stuff, and that the officials know this and that's why they get away with it cause they literally have us. They let us publicly bitch to a point for their own pleasure, always while tightening the chain, and setting traps.
If something isn't done soon, the corruption and criminal officials who are running things will find a way to make us into criminals next.
They're already attacking the internet from a zillion different angles. Each angle is a chink in the armor of freedom.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Bill
said on 7/10/2008 @ 10:22 am PT...
There aren't many more than 6 unfortunately that agree with you. With those I talk to, most people are unaware this vote took place, and the others are unaware of what it meant.
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Paul McCarthy
said on 7/10/2008 @ 10:27 am PT...
There may well be no possibility that Karl Rove will testify, but I still want to see him forced to assert his Fifth Amendment privilege against self incrimination in response to questioning.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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ArchiCoot
said on 7/10/2008 @ 10:45 am PT...
Whatever happens are power maneuvers behind the scenes giving little indication of what is really happening.
Inherent contempt is the only direct way to get Rove to testify... Pelosi saying the House Judiciary may begin impeachment hearings is another source of indirect pressure.
We lost the 4th amendment yesterday.... one more link to our chains.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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karen
said on 7/10/2008 @ 12:49 pm PT...
phil
i dont think its that only a small group of us care...i think its that there have been so many illegal activities by this admin that its hard to keep track and the msm does such a crappy job of reporting the news that most peops dont actually know whats going on
BUT
look at the bright side,msnbc would of nevr picked up the story at all if it wasnt for brad...so we know 1 tireless guy with a few volenteers CAN make a difference
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Metoo
said on 7/10/2008 @ 5:31 pm PT...
Bush and Cheney refused to testify under oath before the 9-11 Commission--or in public--insisted on talking behind closed doors (together) with no written record, and to their handpicked buddies. We still don't know what happened on 9-11 as far as the Bush/Cheney connection--as far as anything for that matter. If they refused to testify under oath and in public about the deaths of 3,000 Americans and were allowed to get away with it, what makes you think Rove would have any less contempt for this spineless Congress?
Where is Senator Shelby in all of this--like Silas Marner, off counting his banking/insurance contributions? Have we no honest politicians anywhere? Does no one care about this country anymore? I would say that Rove and Cheney have conspired to do a lot of nasty things, but someone would just call me a "conspiracy theorist."
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Bruce Sims
said on 7/10/2008 @ 8:55 pm PT...
When one calls, it is 'inherent contempt' to be supporting which will all the House Sergeant of Arms to actually arrest Rove and put him in the cell the house has for such people.
Remember that the full House has to vote on inherent contempt so don't forget to wrtie/call your rep stating your desire for them to support inherent contempt.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 7/10/2008 @ 11:34 pm PT...
What is really disgusting is that none of the other Governors are speaking out for one of their own. What makes these powerful people so timid while leaving it to us to stand up.
All of us here at BradBlog realize what a truly big issue this is. this could bring the house down and allow us to start rebuilding. I am excited it is being talked about at all. Lets not give up!
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/11/2008 @ 12:39 am PT...
I told them I want him arrested. I don't care if it hasn't been done in a long time. It's past time to do it now. So far we just have a sternly worded letter giving him five more days. I realize they need time to haul off and clobber him, but it isn't shaping up to be anything but this stupid game of making Republicans look as perfidious as possible and hiding behind an excuse that they can't DO anything about it without a greater majority and the White House. The entire 110th Congress has been a really heinously heartless and unAmerican political game.
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Rick
said on 7/11/2008 @ 5:50 pm PT...
Karl Rove Flees the Country
Karl Rove was scheduled to testify before the House Judiciary Committee yesterday. He didn't show. Not only that, the Committee was told that Rove had left the country on a "long scheduled" trip.
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Mike Licht
said on 7/11/2008 @ 11:45 pm PT...
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Larry Bergan
said on 7/12/2008 @ 1:07 am PT...
Fox News and Newsweek should leave the country just for hiring this coward.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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P. Iagmin
said on 7/12/2008 @ 11:17 pm PT...
Carl Rove's refusal to appear before the Judiciary Committee or appear only on his own terms is like the tail wagging the dog. His arrogance and the committees reticence are both surreal and unbelievable. Makes me wonder when "The People" will step up to the plate?
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Anwalt für Arbeitsrecht
said on 7/27/2008 @ 11:37 pm PT...
Hi,
I think we must keep striving for justice, accoutability, and the rule of law. If we give up and stop trying, all is surely lost.