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MASHUP: Bill O’Reilly’s Super Bowl Capitalism
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You cut it off before we could get the rest of O’Lielly’s advice:
I wonder how those big internet providers of ours who helped the Chinese and our country spy on their own people feel about this.
Ilove the mashup. When are they going to pull that disgrace to all that is Irish and human off the air anyway. People ought to raise HELL with that network till they do take him off!
This proves my point: That O’Reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity, and FOX are mouthieces NOT for “conservatives”, but for Corporate America. O’Reilly just laid out ALL Corporate America’s “talking points”. NOT “conservative” talking points. These guys are “self-proclaimed” conservatives, and conservatives are…I’ll just say it…to STUPID to realize it.
Sarasota news that’s vaquely related to corporate rackets… as in bureaucrats stonewalling in defense thereof…
http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=1116
Did he say, “Republicans think you shouldn’t take other peoples money”? Must have been having audio problems.
Got to love the fact that “Bill O’Reilly’s Super Bowl Capitalism” is considered such an evil thing.
Why is it that if I want to keep what I’ve earned, I’m greedy–but if I want what you’ve earned, and if you won’t give it to me I demand that the government take it from you by force and give it to me, then I’m one of the good guys (and you’re one of the bad guys for not cheerfully handing it over)?
The rich get richer because they keep doing the things that made them rich. Same for the poor.
And am I the only one amused by people who hate Christianity telling us how we should worship properly? If Jesus really supported government theft and socialism, you people wouldn’t be so bigoted about him.
Redneck — I won’t call you an idiot because Brad doesn’t like that kind of thing. Do you honestly think the rich are against “redistributing” income? Do you think the tax laws are designed to create a “level playing field”? Do you think the rich don’t use governnment every day to stack the deck in their favor?
Do you think most “leftists” are bigoted against Jesus? Do you see the hypocrisy in saying that when the right is actually undermining what Jesus stood for?
You need an education, Bubba. Kindergarten might be a good start.
Sometimes, we don’t get the “big picture.” The NYTimes comes out with an article about the incomes of the people attending the Super Bowl and then comes the coordinated effort by corporatives O’Reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity, FOX, etc…attacking the piece.
These entities are simply mouthpieces for corporate America. The question is, who gives these entities their “weekly talking points” on who to attack and smear? I don’t think these bums think of their talking points agenda, but who does? And then tells them to coordinatedly attack?
The big picture is, that there is some type of “get together”, possible weekly, by people we can’t name, who issue the “weekly talking points” to coordinate in the corporative media. WHO does this? WHERE do they do this? WHEN do they do this? How OFTEN do they do this?
Can someone break this story wide open?
I’m sure O’Reilly isn’t smart enough, and his corporative tag-teammates, to think this stuff up. But WHO is?
It’s good to report on individual cases, like this. But who is leading the collective effort of all these individual entities? That’s the big story that hasn’t been cracked yet…
It’s got to be some very rich, influential people, but who are they? And how do they disseminate these talking points to their attack dogs? Do they email them? Do they have actual meetings in person or videoconferences?
Redneck said:
And those people who “hate Christianity” would be who exactly? Seems O’Reilly is the one here telling Jesus to fuck off as far as I can tell.
I’ll let the theologians around here give you their opinions about Jesus’ fiscal pronouncements as I’m no expert there. But I don’t believe he was a Milton Friedman-like capitalist from the little I recall of the new testament.
Of course, your comment that “you people are bigoted about him” is completely without either merit, substance or evidence.
Perhaps that sort of propaganda/disinfo works elsewhere, but you’ll get little purchase on it here, big guy.
Arry–Of course the rich aren’t against ‘redistributing income’. But they are against having the government steal what they own and decide whether or not someone else deserves it more. Likewise, our tax laws punish people for achievement–of course they’re not designed for a “level playing field”
And if the Left are such fans of Christianity, why do they fight to silence Christians, force people to accept acts as normal by government force, use government money–much of which, of course, came from Christians–to mock Christianity, and in recent wars take the side of people who have an expressed desire to utterly destroy Chriswtianity? If you really intend to argue that liberalism does not hate Christianity or Christians, then I believe you should try kindergarten yourself–like Kayla Broaderrick in Saratoga Springs, New York, who got suspended for praying in school.
Big Dan–So there’s a conservative conspiracy to give out weekly talking points on which anti-capitalist to oppose next…. I think you’re supposed to connect to Richard Mellon Scaife in there, somewhere. Or maybe the black helicopters; I ain’t quite sure.
Brad–I’ve looked though the Bible, time to time, and I have yet to see any verse about “Thou shalt steal from those who succeed, for they have no right to what they have earned.” In fact, if you glance through Proverbs, you’ll see businesswomen praised, and there’s a little verse in the New Testament about how “If a man does not work, then neither shall he eat.” Where does Jesus say that to covet what belongs to someone else is good, if their income is above a certain level?
Of course, your comment that “you people are bigoted about him” is completely without either merit, substance or evidence.
Perhaps that sort of propaganda/disinfo works elsewhere, but you’ll get little purchase on it here, big guy.
Yeeeeah…. How ’bout you come back to this one after you finish off that “Bush detonated the Twin Towers” theory, huh?
Gee, maybe we should just bring back the work house for the sick, and poor. Then the Christian conservatives won’t have to share their hard earned money.
As usual O’Reilly had a non point…and his claim of coming up the hard way, check it out, one more lie.
Someone should send the video to O’Reilly to check against his Bible maybe his Bible is missing those quotes.
Conservatives aren’t against the redistribution of income …. in the last six years they (through their bought-and-paid-for elected officials) have successfully taken from the poor and middle class and redistributed it to the filthy rich.
The filthy rich own all the houses and hotels on all the properties on the Monopoly board. All the rest of us cannot move without landing on their properties and paying tribute or going to jail.
Time to tip the board over.
I personally didn’t see anything in the Bible about If a man doesn’t work, he shall sit on his rich, fat, American ass and manipulate oil/stock prices to his advantage, and maim/kill innocent people to accomodate these ends, anyone ?
Maybe I missed that part
Redneck – time to check and see whose hands are in your pocket. Maybe your elected official?
Redneck — Nice right-wing obfuscation. You talk about what Jesus didn’t say, but ignore what he did say. And praying in school…that sure is the essence of Christianity. Screw the words of Jesus but pray in school. There couldn’t be a finer example of the hypocrisy at the heart of right-wing “Christianity”.
You got it backwards. It’s the right that hates Christianity. They hate it but they use it. Hypocrites. At least people on the “left” takes Christianity seriously, whatever their religious beliefs.
O’Reilly was quite specific that the “left” wants the government to redistribute income. He left out the “right” which also wants the government to redistribute income… to themselves – and has been quite successful in doing so. “Achievement” and other code words are just part of the right wing religious lexicon — meaningful only in the context and closed world of the strange religion of kindergarten “capitalism”.
Floridiot — I missed that part too. I think the real right wing religion is the “Religion of Greed”. Commandment I: “Thou shalt defend greed in all circumstances and in all ways regardless of facts. Thou shalt worship at the feet of Greed and blind thouself to the world. Hypocrisy in the defense of greed is no vice.”
…blind thyself to the world…What can I say? It’s revelation. I didn’t write it.
Well Butt Fuck Me Jesus!!! . . . . .Ole redneck is back spewing his right wing republiKlan dog shit. redneck why don’t you take your bible and stuff it up your ass sideways ? ? ?
Redneck – please explain the reasoning behind Bush’s relentless push, with help from the Republicans in Congress, to eliminate the estate tax. Doesn’t true conservative “merit based” ideology necessitate a move in the other direction, towards a 100% tax on inheritance?
In truth, conservative ideology barely exists today, having been replaced by this weird corporatism we see espoused by Fox News. Even capitalism is a misnomer. For example, true capitalism would require opening not shutting the borders. Also, the ridiculous corporate handouts all belie any real belief in a capitalist free market system.
But, I have always been fascinated by parrots. So, by all means, keep spewing those old and tired talking points.
Redneck:
Most of the trolls we get around here know they’re full of shit. That’s what scares me about you. You actually believe the stuff you say.
Quit worrying that somebody is going to get a dime of your money and enjoy life. Fulfillment isn’t that expensive!
Can anyone stand one more word about O’Reilly? Well,just read that Lowes have pulled their ads from his show on Jan 25th due to e-mails regarding his snidely comments on Shawn Hornsbeck the kidnapped boy from Missouri.
Wow the power of e-mails !
Bernie Sanders said that 1/10 of the richest 1% get half the money from withdrawing the estate tax, and the top 2% of income get ALL the $$$ from repealing the estate tax. And when Bush was saying to repeal the “Death Tax” or “Estate Tax”, 98% of “Rednecks” who won’t receive a PENNY from it, were waving their American flags made in China, cheering for the repeal of the Estate Tax!
So, Redneck, why were you cheering for the repeal of the Death Tax? You like to cheer for extremely richest 2% getting even MORE tax money back? Why were you waving a flag and cheering for the repeal of the Estate Tax? Do you even know what’s going on?
Did you know that Jesus was a liberal pacifist? Or do you worship “Republican Jesus”…the “fake” Jesus?
Should someone get their water shut off if they don’t have the money to pay the water bill? I did 3 years ago, when my unemployment ran out.
But, more important things to YOU, are your concern for the rich. People like you are the poster boy for the coporative Republicans tricking the electorate. Keep posting comments, so we can all see THE example of how these “used car salesmen” trick people into voting against their own interests.
The part of “Orwell Rolls In His Grave”, one of the best movies about media propoganda I’ve ever seen, where “Rednecks” cheered and waved flags when Bush said on his campaign trail, “And let’s repeal the Death Tax”, was absolutely embarrassing to me. Being part of the human race, I was embarrassed at how stupid these cheering, flag-waving people were. That clip, Brad, you should get that exact clip of that movie, and post it here. How stupid people are.
If aliens came from another planet and saw what was going on in America with the GOP running it, they would come to the conclusion that the richest Americans need more money, based on the legislation introduced by the GOP. Our number one problem to Redneck and the GOP, who’s playing Redneck(s) like a fiddle, is that the rich don’t have enough money!
Redneck blindly believes politicians instead of scientists (his 9/11 comment). He believes we should repeal the Estate Tax, established because a few of the richest families had too much money. But they got Redneck to “cheer and wave flags” for them! Propoganda works, Redneck is living proof.
At LEAST…there should be some skeptecism with the politicians’ 9/11 story, just because it was a bunch of politicians who told us that story, where 19 Arabs commanded by a guy in a cave on dialysis, outfoxed Bush & Cheney.
Redneck: At the very least, do you admit Bush/Cheney should’ve resigned the day after 9/11, for not keeping us safe, and letting 3,000 Americans die? They didn’t protect them…I think Bush/Cheney were president/VP on 9/11, right?
No, Redneck will say, “We haven’t had an attack SINCE 9/11″…as if Bush/Cheney began their terms on 9/12/2001!!!!!!!
My Apologies for the rudeness of comment #18.
{Sorry, I know you must have worked hard on this, but there’s so much disinformation and incoherent insertion of catch phrases to help switch off the minds of visitors who might want to seriously engage in discussion here that it’s really best to wipe it from this thread. You are exhibiting advanced troll techniques. Bully for you. Please go use them on the South Pole. –99}
Looks like the Neck ran into the disinformation filter here at BradBlog.
Sort of like the time Mike Malloy had his microphone cut off on the Hugh Hewitt “Heartland” show for not agreeing that Bush was a fighter pilot war hero.
If you’re angry just remember that our side gets cut off by over 90 huge corporations for telling the truth, (Air America). Your side gets to break the law and go on the public airwaves with 50,000 watts of lies about the non-existent “liberal media” every single day.
I’m sure Agent 99 will allow you to come back when you’re not lying.
REDNECK, you claim the answer to my question is so simple and yet you don’t answer it. The owners of estates where the estate tax applies is, by definition, dead. It’s certainly not my money or your money or anyone else’s money.
However, our government has determined that it is in the interest of society to allow the decedent to gift his estate to whomever he or she so chooses but require the receiver of a windfall above X amount ($2 million soon to be $3.5 million) to pay a tiny portion of the total amount to the state. In other words, an individual with no merit based claim to the money will still get $2 million tax free of money that was not earned by them. Not to mention that the wealthy can also give away $13,000 tax free a year to anyone. Thus, if you have two wealthy parents a wife and three kids, your parents can give your family $130,000 a year tax free. But, I digress.
In any case, the money is not “theirs” as you write. They did not earn it. There is no merit based reason they should receive it. Thus, my question is the same, if you believe in the conservative ideology of a total merit based system, shouldn’t we be raising the estate tax instead of razing it.
Finally, there are many reasons for this tax on estates, not the least of which is to level the playing field contrary to what you wrote above. Another reason was the desire for a strong middle class instead of a big and powerful aristocracy. We are, after all, the land of opportunity and equality.
BIG DAN
I think the numbers you state on the estate tax are high. In 2005, 2.5 million Americans died (from a pool of 300 million) and 18,431 paid any estate tax. For those 0.8% that paid any estate tax – which included a four Alaskans and less than 50 people from Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Vermont and Wyoming – the average tax rate was 12.4% — no where near the maximum tax rate of 48%. And of the $21.7 billion collected by the government, more than a third was paid by 498 estates valued at greater than $20 million.
More on this here
Larry, if Agent99 was interested in not lying, she wouldn’t be here.
Looks like I won this argument. Time to go find something more challenging to do–there’s got to be a baby somewhere with some SweetTarts,and I like sweetTarts.
Redneck — I think you’ve got it. Maybe that’s something you can do. Your level of competence, so to speak.
Hey! The Redneck took my candy! Waaaaaa!
The Redneck is a winner.
He probably owns one of these big corporations that stifles free speech in America.
You win, Redneck! You’re a winner! I’m so jealous that I ramble on, and on about it!
REDNECK, 28, 5’9, 195, born & raised in Alabama but now lives in Georgia. He does own a chunk of Ford – a ’91 Mustang that is mostly paid off. But he’s never owned a single share of stock in his life, never mind own a corporation. You might find it surprising that he works in a pet store. Thus, the amazing parroting technique.