READER COMMENTS ON
"Lou Dobbs Covers the Voting Machine 'Sleepovers' in San Diego!"
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Dredd
said on 6/27/2006 @ 12:56 am PT...
Lou Dobbs
Exactly why it is not such a stretch to consider that the 2004 and 2000 elections were subverted (link here).
The Orwell book 1984 focused on a time that had very active spate of warnings of electronic election machines being used to facilitate a modern, different, but nevertheless real dictatorship (link here, and here).
Now daze the MSM in general has had a blackout, a boycott, of news relating to electronic voting machine insecurity.
For a long, long time.
The new revelations, even tho 2 decades late perhaps, are welcome.
It is never too late to take back democracy from the republican dictatorship ... is it?
Even tho they are watching (link here)?
Watching what we read at libraries, our financial records, our medical records, our email, our phone calls, and even our voting habits?
Big Brother is a republican.
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John Dean
said on 6/27/2006 @ 1:11 am PT...
Brad, this is truly outstanding work.
My sincere thanks, my friend.
John
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Buckeye Fan
said on 6/27/2006 @ 1:38 am PT...
Not much of a story, it was quick.
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MMIIXX
said on 6/27/2006 @ 1:45 am PT...
DOBBS: And the threat to American democracy from within. Electronic voting machines, they can be rigged to erase your vote, so who's guarding the machines?
intro DOBBS to CLINTON CURTIS !
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Larry Bergan
said on 6/27/2006 @ 4:27 am PT...
Sleepovers!
I love that characterization!
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Arlene Montemarano
said on 6/27/2006 @ 4:36 am PT...
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Dredd
said on 6/27/2006 @ 6:21 am PT...
Arlene Montemarano #6
Done. Thanks for the link.
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 6/27/2006 @ 6:56 am PT...
"Mommy, can I sleep over at Susie's house tonight?"
"O.K. But are you sure Susie's mom knows about it?"
"Oh, yes. Mommy. And she told us we could sleep in the playroom, next to the election machine."
"What election machine, dear?"
"The one they're using to vote for Congress next week."
"What's it doing at Susie's house, Jennifer?"
"I don't know. But we watched Susie's dad and brother fooling around inside it yesterday. They didn't know we were watching. It didn't look honest to me, Mommy. It's a voting machine. People shouldn't fool with it."
"Don't be a moonbat, Jennifer."
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Dredd
said on 6/27/2006 @ 7:38 am PT...
Rush L has been firming up his politic, but after the sleep over he got caught at the border:
Rush Limbaugh was detained for more than three hours Monday at Palm Beach International Airport after authorities said they found a bottle of Viagra in his possession without a prescription.
(link here, bold added).
Word is that The Dick (apologies to The Donald) is not very happy about him being outed.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/27/2006 @ 7:57 am PT...
We need to get Brad and/or Bev Harris on Lou Dobbs. Why isn't this happening? I just emailed Lou Dobbs.
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big dan
said on 6/27/2006 @ 7:58 am PT...
Brad, don't you have an agent trying like heck to book you on Lou Dobbs WHILE HE'S TALKING ABOUT THIS?
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/27/2006 @ 8:12 am PT...
They're breaking every law in the book. Sleepovers with the e-vote machines, punching votes for people, etc... What the hell is going on???????? They're actually being BLATANT about it now, because nobody's f***ing doing anything about it!!!
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/27/2006 @ 8:19 am PT...
Only Republicans put up roadblocs to voting. The ONLY party that does so. Anything EVER introduced to make voting HARDER, is introduced by the REPUBLICANS!!!
Everyone EXCEPT the Republicans are trying to make voting EASIER!!!!!!!! They know the only way they can win is by fraud, fraud on e-vote machines made by their donors, disenfranchising voters, and setting up roadblocks to make voting harder.
THE LESS PEOPLE WHO VOTE, THE BETTER FOR REPUBLICANS!!!
Photo ID, lack of enough voting machines in Dem precincts causing long lines, purging voter registrations (Florida Jeb Bush), sending out false voting instructions, 3 million challenges of minority voters, etc.......
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MrBlueSky
said on 6/27/2006 @ 9:12 am PT...
Brad:
It seems that this (usually ultraconservative) commentator just may be the next Keith Olbermann. (If you recall, you reported that only Mr. Olbermann actually understood what TRULY happened after the 2004 elections.)
But, Mmiixx is correct. Both you AND Mr. Curtis need to get booked on his show ASAP!!!
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DONNA 1
said on 6/27/2006 @ 9:41 am PT...
I HOPE TO SEE LOU GET ON THE ISSUE THE SAME WAY HE HAS OUT SOURCING OUR JOBS. HE'S LIKE A DOG WITH A BONE. (BOTH PARTIES WATCH HIM. ) FOR MONTHS I'VE BEEN E-MAILING HIM OVER THIS. SENDING BRAD'S REPORTS TO HIM. LETS ALL THANK HIM, AND SEND REPORTS. I THINK IT'LL KEEP HIM GOING , AND CHECKING INTO OTHER AREA'S OF FRAUD. FINGERS CROSSED IN OHIO.
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Peg C
said on 6/27/2006 @ 11:05 am PT...
Keep at Lou, everybody. I watched this last P.M. and he wasn't hot enough, steamed enough, by a long shot. And can he ever generate steam when he gets worked up!
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Lisa
said on 6/27/2006 @ 11:38 am PT...
I have been emailing Lou Dobbs almost every day since he started covering this issue, and I did again today. I think our emails are encouraging him to stay on the case. Today I told him that, given the urgency of the situation, he should now be leading every broadcast with this issue. I hope he listens.
Please email him. Thank you.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/27/2006 @ 11:50 am PT...
How about a "round-table" on Lou, with Brad, Bev, & Clint? Would that be off the charts??????
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/27/2006 @ 11:51 am PT...
btw, we need Brad to open up a thread on Limboob...PULEEEEZZZZZZ, PRETTY PULEEEEEEZZZZ, BRAD..............
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/27/2006 @ 11:52 am PT...
PRETTY PULEEZZZZ...WITH VIAGARA ON TOP????????
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Bluebear2
said on 6/27/2006 @ 12:07 pm PT...
PRETTY PULEEZZZZ…WITH VIAGARA ON TOP????????
Dang, I thought you were supposed to eat the pills. NOW you tell me!
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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devin
said on 6/27/2006 @ 12:11 pm PT...
Living in CA, I heard about this a year ago on Democracy Now! This is stunning! Personally, if I were instructed to take an e-voting machine 'home', I would never have done it-this simply reeks of illegality.
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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onyx
said on 6/27/2006 @ 12:44 pm PT...
Brad
I've heard you say that many machines can be compromised by hacking just one of them. I remember reading this in one of BBV's reports also.
If this is true it needs to be hammered home to everyone because that next argument from Diebold apologists will be "Yeah its possible to compromise a few machines but that won't make much difference. It would be impossible to hack enough machines to change the outcome." - if the rebubs win by enough.
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Bluebear2
said on 6/27/2006 @ 12:55 pm PT...
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Arry
said on 6/27/2006 @ 1:05 pm PT...
BB2 --- That man sounds very confused to me.
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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molly
said on 6/27/2006 @ 2:48 pm PT...
Remember Alaska dems. wanting to see '04 electon results. They were told they had to pay for the information to be manipulated. Old repub. manuever , blame the victim...make them pay for being a victim. Way of shutting them up. WE shouldn't have to pay for recounts!
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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Joan
said on 6/27/2006 @ 2:52 pm PT...
#6 Arlene,
Thanks for the Lou Dobbs email link. I sent him a second message, thanking him for staying on the issue & asking him to have Brad on the show.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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Lildoggy
said on 6/27/2006 @ 3:04 pm PT...
Lou is covering the machines as I write this.
Tune in......
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 6/27/2006 @ 3:19 pm PT...
Big Dan #19-#21
These sleep overs with Rush and Viagra and all could lead to some pregnant chads ... oops ... and then a constitutional amendment against gay election machines ...
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Robert Sawdey
said on 6/27/2006 @ 3:24 pm PT...
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big dan
said on 6/27/2006 @ 5:59 pm PT...
Now we know what that "tapping" is, on the Rush Limboob show.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/27/2006 @ 6:00 pm PT...
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/27/2006 @ 6:04 pm PT...
It's very good when Lou Dobbs is on your side. He will not stop, he's relentless (see "broken borders").
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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Buckeye Fan
said on 6/27/2006 @ 6:34 pm PT...
Big Dan claimed that the GOP puts up roadblocks to make voting more difficult. I don't see it that way. Republicans make voting fair by setting up standards that prevent people from cheating.
How does a photo ID make a "roadblock"? Everyone has a photo ID ... EVERYONE!! It is impossible to live in America w/o a photo ID. Can't buy beer, can't cash a check (even at a liquor store). Think about it, do you know anyone who doesn't have a photo ID? I have never known anyone who doesn't have a photo ID. (SO THE PHOTO ID LAW TO VOTE WON'T STOP ANYONE FROM VOTING)
Also, I keep hearing how Ohio was rigged in 2004 by Diebold and their e-voting machines. Well, here are the facts about e-voting in Ohio during the 2004 election. Ohio has 88 counties ... and only 20 counties used e-voting machines. 68 counties used the punch ballot machines.
Diebold machines were only used in (2) counties for Ohio, Lucas & Hardin County.
HERE IS THE BREAKDOWN:
Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S) ~ Allen, Hancock, Auglaize, Miami, Clermont, Washington, Coshocton, Ashland, Mahoning, Geauga, Erie, Sandusky, Ottawa County
Danaher Controls (Danaher Guardian) ~ Franklin County
Sequoia Voting Systems, Inc. ~ Lake County
MicroVote General Corporation ~ Pickaway, Ross, Knox County
Diebold Election Systems ~ Lucas & Hardin County
HERE IS THE LINK:
http://verifiedvoting.or...io&topic_string=5std
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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Agent99
said on 6/27/2006 @ 7:01 pm PT...
Buckeye Fan
This site is loaded with material that can help you clear your head. I know it's hard to keep up with the facts, because they are not given out by the mainstream, and, worse, right wing media out and out lie about the facts, but you have arrived at a great resource for great information. If it was not your purpose to mislead readers of this thread, you should know that there are links to important, true, verifiable FACTS all over the front page of BradBlog. I couple minutes following the links will give you a whole new outlook.
If your purpose was to mislead, are you ever going to get tired of it?
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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DONNA
said on 6/27/2006 @ 7:17 pm PT...
#26 Molly... Last I read alaska was to get the 2004 results, then they said no, it's against the law, or results are the property of e-vote machine co. Never read that they got to see the results. One more thing that should be a big deal, and isen't ! Like how exit polls count in the Ukraine, but not here .
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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Bluebear2
said on 6/27/2006 @ 10:03 pm PT...
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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Neoconvict
said on 6/27/2006 @ 11:35 pm PT...
This is pretty amazing --- we're getting Rolling Stone and Lou Dobbs covering these issues --- and still the majority of the media refuses to pick the story up (because they've been ordered not to.) How can we ever overcome restore freedom in America when the NeoCons control the media? Really, the only option seems to be a well-financed start-up truth-telling media company. Someone like Ted Turner to start it up. Otherwise, crap, we're dead meat. Plans are already underway to have the internet controlled by NeoCon-complicit AT&T, which means blogs like this one may be history. (On a side note, remember 25 years ago when AT&T got broken up into all the baby bells? They're back.)
After the rigged elections are over in November, know what Bush is going to do? That's right, take away social security. He actually admitted it this week. He doesn't even care to lie about it any more! It's not like the people can do anything about it, right? Well, okay, he did lie about it, in the guise of "saving" social security.
We can keep getting the word out all we want to, but at some point, the workers are going to have to seize the means of production. The people will have to rise up. That means we will have to get our hands dirty, folks. Get ready for it...
COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 6/28/2006 @ 1:25 am PT...
For our old friend "Buckeye Fan" (apparently here under a new name).
No, everyone does not have a photo idea. Some 10 to 30 million Americans actually.
That said, when Ohio requires a photo ID for Absentee and Military voting, we can talk. Otherwise, I look forward to rampage demanding Photo ID be used for absentee and military folks. Guess I'll be waiting a while for that. Either way, that makes the law unfair on it's face, of course. In addition to the fact that it will disenfranchise millions.
But keep up the misleading and disinfo! Apparently America ain't buying it anymore.
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 6/28/2006 @ 4:48 am PT...
big dan #18
You said:
"How about a "round-table" on Lou, with Brad, Bev, & Clint? Would that be off the charts??????"
You could even balance things out with John Fund and Ronald McDonald!
I'm sorry, Ronald, that wasn't called for!
COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 6/28/2006 @ 4:56 am PT...
All, I want Ronnie Dugger on that panel, he has been covering this since I was in High school
Link
COMMENT #42 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 6/28/2006 @ 5:16 am PT...
Brad, switch the two first letters of the (B)uck eye (F)an around, then do it
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Floridiot
said on 6/28/2006 @ 5:22 am PT...
Well, maybe not since High School
(I guess I'm older than I'd like to admit to myself)
COMMENT #44 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 6/28/2006 @ 7:26 am PT...
Floridiot #41
I emailed this to Dugger:
Mr. Ronnie Dugger,
I am a blogger at bradblog.com, velvetrevolution.us, and blackboxvoting.org.
At BradBlog.com, in a current thread, we have been talking about you and your work after discovering some articles from the '80's that you wrote.
We visited your website and wondered why your org is not a member of VelvetRevolution.us
A series of town hall meetings are taking place to discuss the election machines and their insecurity.
If you have any interest, you could email Brad Friedman at TheBradBlog@cville.com and discuss the Town Hall meetings, etc.
later,
Dredd
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Hey, the only way to go now is up to the people.
COMMENT #45 [Permalink]
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DONNA
said on 6/28/2006 @ 7:59 am PT...
BLUEBEAR 2 Thanks, reading that only makes me more sick over how twisted all this is. (Alaska trying to get results from 2004 election, still ) In a real world the news would be all over this. America fell down the rabbit hole ! Too bad nothing is called Bill or Monica so the msm could plaster it in headlines... daily... for a couple years !!! Thank you Brad, the first place I go every morning. You give me hope!
COMMENT #46 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 6/28/2006 @ 8:11 am PT...
Dredd, hope he does show some interest, that would be great !!!
COMMENT #47 [Permalink]
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Savantster
said on 6/28/2006 @ 9:35 am PT...
Buckeye Fan, this statement "Everyone has a photo ID … EVERYONE!!" is false. The entire paragraph is therefore invalid and your logic flawed.
I only had a photo ID at 16 because I had a driver's liscense. I've met a LOT of people who NEVER HAVE HAD A DL.. Some people as old as 70 and NEVER had a DL. The alternative is a "state photo ID", and if you don't drink you don't have a need for one.. The only bit that comes into play is the "cash checks" bit, but you CAN cash checks with "id", it does NOT have to be "photo id". If you are on welfare and can't afford a car (no DL), you CAN cash your checks at your bank or grocery store WITHOUT PHOTO ID.. you just need ID. Just like voting TODAY.. you need ID.. various forms are ACCEPTABLE.
Your assertions that "everyone has photo id" is bullshit. While a LOT of people have one, probably MOST people, we're talking about potentially TENS MILLIONS of voters that DO NOT. Until you are willing to travel door to door and give out FREE Photo IDs, the issue is moot. Forcing those without photo IDs to get them is unreasonable. Just because YOU might have time to wait in lines for hours to get a DL or photo ID to cash checks with doesn't mean everyone does.
"and only 20 counties used e-voting machines."
I'll take your word for that.. But, in case you missed it, ALL E-VOTING MACHINES have MASSIVE problems, and are VERY hackable. Diebold has become the poster child for the "verifiable/transparent voting systems", but ALL of the electronic systems NEED TO GO. Go look at all the problems in those TWENTY COUNTIES (as you assert), and look at how the Exit Polls were WRONG in EVERY county that used e-voting, but CORRECT EVERYWHERE that PAPER was used.. Once you see that "e-voting is bad" and stop pretending like Ohio wasn't gamed because diebold was only in 20 counties at the time, come back and chat. Oh, and NOW, Ohio has ALL 88 COUNTIES running electronic machines, right? I don't think "all" votes are cast on them, but all 88 have the machines and available (to unwitting saps who would use them).
COMMENT #48 [Permalink]
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Charlene
said on 6/28/2006 @ 3:29 pm PT...
#38 Neoconvict
I understand exactly what you mean.
I recently found there's a better way to right the wrongs at www.gravel2008.us
This new concept called the National Initiative will put law making power back into the hands of the People, & will not allow our 'esteemed officials' to roll over the will of the People in contempt like they have for so long.
I'm not yet going so far as to say we should elect Gravel, an ex Democratic senator from Alaska with a good record fighting corruption--but I do believe all Americans need to look at the National Initiative he introduced.
It is a real answer to end the corruption from both parties--all at once. I already voted for it. It deserves a look.
Naturally, both parties are going to condemn it & try & scare people out of it--because it will mean the end of their corrupt reign over the People.
They don't scare me at all--I trust the People before I trust our 'esteemed officials' any day!
It's impossible to screw things up any worse than the Democrats & the Republicans have done. Shame on them both....We deserve way better than them & we can get it.
COMMENT #49 [Permalink]
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Charlene
said on 6/28/2006 @ 3:59 pm PT...
Wayne Madsen, for one, likes Gravel & has interesting info about his great record that can be found by putting "Mike Gravel" into Wayne's search engine & then clicking on the results.
COMMENT #50 [Permalink]
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FunMe
said on 6/28/2006 @ 4:22 pm PT...
If you don?t have the money to store them & maintain them ? DO NOT buy them!
It?s not rocket science.
WTF ? again WHY, WHY, and WHY are paper ballots not produced????
It?s bull shit. We got to get rid of them. But how?
What can We The People do ? before November 2006!
COMMENT #51 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/28/2006 @ 7:29 pm PT...
My daughter is 18, and does not have a photo ID. So, she shouldn't get to vote?
COMMENT #52 [Permalink]
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DonHarv43
said on 6/30/2006 @ 8:47 pm PT...
These e-voting machines are bad news, however they make little difference.
With the “signing statement” having been used over 750 times it matters little who is elected. The “signing statement” is based on the idea of the “unitary executive”, more properly identified by its modern historical name — the Führerprinzip, authored by the Nazi regime's anointed "Crown Jurist" Carl Schmitt. It forms the core dogma of the ultra-right-wing Federalist Society. With that kind of power the “executive” can do anything he/she chooses, overturn laws – elections – voting rights – civil rights, the list just goes on and on. That is exactly how Hitler took over Germany. History repeats because “the people” are not paying attention.
COMMENT #53 [Permalink]
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walter wood
said on 9/15/2006 @ 7:34 pm PT...
Lou : What ever happened to common sense,integrity,virtue ect.. - the citizens of this country should demand from their congressmen,that the right to cast their vote be exactly that-THEIR VOTE that cannot be manipulated by electronic hackers or "Florida type" government employees. W.Wood - TEXAS
COMMENT #54 [Permalink]
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Joanne
said on 10/18/2006 @ 8:02 am PT...
How's this for a late response..
Bet we see the exact same thing happen this November. Dems are showing strong numbers to take the House and Congress back. I bet that doesn't happen.
When is America going to become angry that the only voice we have is being stolen from us? I know I am pissed as hell! No paper trail? What public company in America would get away with that? Especially after Enron. Isn't this public with us being the shareholders?? Sorry, corporate America has proven to us that we NEED that paper trail! And, we should be demanding it!
Our country is in so much trouble when the basic tenets of what we were founded on go so far astray. Fraudulent voting. Torture. Lying. Corruption. World aggressors. Our forefathers are spinning in their graves.
Sad. Sad. Sad.