READER COMMENTS ON
"Maureen Farrell: 'Tired of Being Lied to? Modern History You Can't Afford to Ignore', part 2 of 3"
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 11/30/2005 @ 7:32 pm PT...
When you're done reading Maureen Farrell, you might also want to read another recently-published monsterpiece:
"The Long March of Dick Cheney" by Sidney Blumenthal, from Salon via Chris Floyd.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 12/1/2005 @ 2:41 am PT...
Maureen Farrell continues her anecdotal history of the United States since people named Bush first came into power. This historian took note of several things from Part 2, assuming Maureen has her facts right:
1) The neo-cons were planning to invade Iraq while Clinton was president, looking for excuses to do so.
2) Chalabi was maneuvering for the same thing, long before his name was familiar to Americans.
3) Clinton retaliated for the "planned assassination"
of George H.W. Bush by Saddam Hussein.
Quote marks are used in #3 because we've been asked to take it on faith all along. It's certainly credible to think Saddam would order a murder, but what evidence has anyone seen that he really did plan to kill Bush#41? Who was the hired killer? How was it to have taken place? Where? When? How was the plot foiled? By whom?
Will anyone be tried for attempted murder, and will this plot be included in the charges at Saddam's trial? If not, why not? Attempted murder and/or conspiracy to commit murder are excluded from the statute of limitations, I believe.
Since it never happened, is there any reason not to publish details on this plot? Or did the plot never exist? Was it a "death to Bush" rant in the style of Muslim fanatics, with no substance behind it? Was it idle thought, like our threats to "take out" Chavez in Venezuela? Was it another figment of Chalabi's imagination, to encourage an American invasion?
At least one historian doubts there was ever a real plot to murder George H. W. Bush. If he's wrong, he'd appreciate being proven wrong by facts...the same facts that prompted Clinton to retaliate. But these facts are still "top secret," just like WMD and Dick Cheney's negotiations with oil companies.
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 12/1/2005 @ 10:33 am PT...
Thanks, Winter Patriot and BradBlog, and thanks especially to Maureen! I'm gonna print her stuff out and make copies and send them to people I care about to spread further - once I finish following up all the links! She's doing a heck of a job connecting the dots (or was that DOTs?), and I for one am grateful and a bit awed.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 12/1/2005 @ 10:37 am PT...
re #2 --- Those are good questions, Robert, and I've been trying to find answers to them. If I do, you'll be the first to know!
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 12/1/2005 @ 11:53 am PT...
Many thanks - I too have copied and will circulate. As we all know, if we build a house on a defective foundation, the house is not safe and will fall down. The Iraq War is based on lies and deceptions regardless of the spin - it is still based on lies and deceptions. This adm is based on lies and deceptions, need I say more!
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 12/2/2005 @ 9:40 am PT...
Thanks Maureen Farrell. I am trying to be patient, but when are we going to get part 3? :rolleyes:
Recently, I read Howard Zinn's "The People's History of the United States 1492 - Present." My formal governmental brain-washing - excuse me - I mean my formal education started in the mid fifties and I have got to admit; ignorance was bliss but it didn't last long. Sometimes I wish I had just gotten a lobotomy and browsed with the rest of the sheep but, somehow, it all started unraveling for me when Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luthor King were killed.
Now, the more I learn, the more I wonder - did the wrong side win the cold war? Obviously, our gang of criminals are no better than the gang of criminals running any other country.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 12/2/2005 @ 5:03 pm PT...
The tactics our government is using now are identical to those we condemned the former Soviet Union for using during the Cold War...properly so.
1) Widespread use of propaganda
2) Control of news media by party in power
3) Intolerance for dissent
4) One-party government (Republicrats)
5) Unilateral invasions of sovereign countries
6) Rigged elections
7) Controlled setting for speeches by bureaucrats
8) Lies, and lies to explain lies (Big Lie technique)
9) Thinking "Only we can have deadly weapons"
10) Holding enemies at secret locations indefinitely
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 12/3/2005 @ 9:27 am PT...
#2 RML I am one of those that didn't buy the assasination of ghwb story. Seemed to me, those in power were using this as one more plan to get 'we the 'people' behind that lunatic. I remember when he was vp and I often thought to myself, how stupid he was. He seemed not to be able to express himself either. When he was elected (if he was) I was in shock. Wasn't he the one who threw up at the dinner in Japan. I began to learn about the bush background then and all I have learned since is so sinister. Prescott doing business with the Nazis etc.
#6 I too, wish at times, I had never 'woke up'. What bliss to live in this Country with the belief that everything is hunky dory and 'they hate us for our freedom'. I believe their are old souls and young souls on this planet. The old souls are trying to arouse the young ones but perhaps this is a fruitless endeavor. Guess when all is said and done it really will be God doing the sorting.
#7 I have a tape, have listened to it often, espousing the manipulators of Capitalism and Communism. Capitalism....a state run by Corporations....Communism...corporations run by the the state. Same end. M4
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
said on 12/5/2005 @ 7:26 am PT...