Awe the lying murderers might be going down. What i hope people get is that the Democrats are in it with the Republicans. The same corporations own these bastards that would run over anyone person American or otherwise who would dare get in the way of their agenda. The Democrats didn't do shit when the real proof of a stolen election was going down except cower and act like the mass media speak'um truth. The government which runs the political bullhorns will do whatever it can get away with and screw everyone else. Outside a few exceptions they can all burn in the bushit fire. Start with investigating 9/11. Get this Fitzgerald dude to look at the evidence that ties in with Iraq. Maybe stupid Americans that don't want to know the truth should continue accepting the FEMA's explanation of what happened.

This fool never won the election and the world knows it.

Glenda Hood has resigned from Florida secretary of state!

Should probably be hired by Mark Thor Hearne now, eh!

Glenda Hood gone!

Doug E.

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I remember when Dick Morris said that Bush's Katrina response was not going to have an impact on his ratings. In fact, he said, that his ratings were going to "soar" after the event.

I also remember making a bet with Mr. Morris that Bush's numbers would soon hit the mid 30's.

Time to pay up Mr. Morris.
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"According to the latest poll, if George W. Bush were to run for president today he would lose to the Democratic candidate. And today George W. Bush said 'Again?'" --Jay Leno
(source: politicalhumor.com)

I have a bet going that he will not drop below 35%. I think I may be about to lose that bet.

...That means over 1/3rd of the American public polled with this question are dumber than posts!

nobody likes a spoiled brat - especially one with a very low intellect.

nobody likes a spoiled brat - especially one with a very low intellect. and nuklear weapons...
don't piss me off ,you wouldn't like me when I'm pissed off (and armed with nukes).

I’m shocked nobody has mentioned that today is an anniversary that will live in infamy ( * 2 ) .

Yeah, my favorite Bush supporter was the doofus at a protest in LA, he had the sign "get a clue, morans" or something like that, the epitome of the right wing losers
that will vote against their own economic well being for a phony ideal that is pumped up by the 1%ers to divide the country and get them to vote their way.
Also its hilarious to watch them dumb bastards eat their own too, thats why some of them come here, they've been kicked off of their own sites for trying to form an idea on their own that is contrary to the "talking points"

35% of americans still approve of Bush. who are the 35%? where do they get their news? what do they do for a living? what do they drink? what are their favorite cartoons?what cave do they live in?

They live in the "hooray for me" society

that old song "For united we stand, divided we fall, and if our backs should ever be against the wall, we'll be together you and I" comes to mind
We will win, people are really good at heart
Just misplaced ideals, for now

(tongue in cheek)
And if that don't work, we'll have to kill em

I see in an MSN sidebar, however, that:

48% of Americans believe in ghosts (with 22% having actually seen them).
and...
51% of Americans believe that God created us in our current shape and form (wisdom teeth, goose bumps, appendixes, and all, no evolution at all).

Wow. As Bobby Zimmerman sang, "The idiot wind, blowing like a socket around our skulls/from the Grand Coulee Dam to the Capital."

Isn't 35% about the percentage of households without the internet? I would bet it's close to that. I blame the aproval rating being that high on lack of information, because of the lack of MSN corporate whores willing to inform them. Most citizens just don't know YET. If everyone knew what we knew, then the approval would be about 3%. That 3% would be the elite rich and Bush's ex-drinking buddies.

Seems as we near the milestone of 2/3 of the country discovering their plot and disapproving, balls are finally sprouting left and right. Hell yeh, and now that we've identified all this crapola, we need to get our troops home. Now.

One final thought this morning as I wake to another day under our 35% dictatorship. With all that's coming to light right now, does anyone else have this horrible feeling another war might be started before this administration is stopped? Would they actually be stupid enough to try another one right now? Sure is looking like it. Hope that's not true.

Why can't the Dems and the somewhat honest Repubs get off their fat asses and reverse the authority they wrongfully gave Bush to start a war all by himself because he can? Why aren't people screaming for that?

Yeah that too, and 20 something % think their the in the top 1% of income earnings also

All we need is one fair election ...

no Diebold or any other phony voting machines ...

and there will be a LANDSLIDE!!!

ABB (anything but bu$hit) ...

But he received 51% of the vote? BULLSHIT!!! He stole the election.

Grizzly:

I agree, the Dems stink, too. The GOP is STINK...and the Dems are "STINK LITE".

I am so angry that the Dems aren't acting like the GOP did when they were the minority. They were always attacking Clinton early on. And the Dems have so much ammo.

I agree about the Dems saying nothing about electronic voting machines and the stolen election. These are the guys we're fighting for? The guys letting the internet do all the talking for them? Where's Kerry/Edwards on vote machines and fraud? You see all over the country, GOP candidates calling for recounts and starting lawsuits when they lose elections. The Dems say, "Oh, well...forget about it." And we're fighting for these guys?

I'm seriously thinking of switching to the Green Party.

The REAL liberals (the Green Party) and the REAL conservatives (the Libertarian Party) are BOTH against the Iraq War and electronic machines. Both Cobb and Bednarik fought the Ohio election, while Kerry/Edwards were busy conceding in record time. These rightwingers don't even know what a real conservative is, or they would be against the Bush cronies.

22% think the sun revolves around the earth. This leaves only 13 % that can be educated to the truth about the neocons and bushco, we are getting there slowly but surely. :laugh:

For Skip (#11): Here's one historian's take on the 35% who still support Bush.

10% of the population supports the president, no matter who he is or what he does, because "he deserves our support." These folks are sincere and well-intentioned, but their favorite literature is Winnie the Pooh and Nancy Drew mysteries.

15% of the population are religious fanatics in the Bible belt who believe Bush has been sent by (the one true) God to save America from evil. These folks and their pastors are also sincere (many will disagree with me about that), and their favorite literature is Ben-Hur (and all other fiction stories made into historical epics starring Charlton Heston).

10% of the population simply hates liberals. They aren't sincere. Their unspoken credo is, "The enemy of my enemies must be my friend." Bush is our enemy, we're their enemy, so Bush becomes their friend. The favorite literature of these folks is the Drudge Report.

There you have it. 10+15+10=35.

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Thanks for pointing out that many Bush supporters are sincere. I know this is true. Sad, but true.

Very sharp observations in this thread!! Especially RLM #22 and Big Dan - Big Ups to youse.

In my worst nightmares, I NEVER envisioned any political party could do as much damage to the core values and SOUL of our country as these Evil GOP Bastards have done.

In my best dreams (ok, 2nd best dreams), as the MSM begins to get back in touch with their RESPONSIBILITY to INFORM (albeit excruciatingly slowly) the Repugnantcan's Criminal Election-Rigging Enterprise will be exposed in full and the abhorrent and illegal results of the 2004 "election" will be voided - with Chimpy, Cheney, et al being thrown out - with an interim bi-partisan executive branch installed until 2008 or a re-vote in '06 WITHOUT PAPERLESS ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINERY.

a fella can still dream, right?

Derdd said, "All we need is one fair election ...
no Diebold or any other phony voting machines ...

Unfortunately that won't happen in the near future. Voting for all intents and purposes has become a placebo. Thos that control it will not relinquish control easily or fairly. Don't count on fair elections for the forseeable future.

Regarding the 35% - while it's a nice low number, it's also reason for them to begin with their scare tactics again. Look for new 'terra' threats and watch Syria as well as Iran.

Rumor is that Syria is on for January. We need another war to supress disent for the current one. The only way is with forged documents (already being passed around) and with boogeyman scare tactics.

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Imagine what Bush's rating might be if there was an actual opposition party!

"Floridiot said on 11/3/2005 @ 3:15am PT...

Yeah that too, and 20 something % think their the in the top 1% of income earnings also
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I think you really put your finger on it. There are a lot of folks out there who think they are in the elite or are about to be in it. They are the ones benefitting from this economy, too, I would guess, so they have a point, to an extent (to the extent that they forget how expendable they too can be).

"...big dan said on 11/3/2005 @ 4:11am PT...

The REAL liberals (the Green Party) and the REAL conservatives (the Libertarian Party) are BOTH against the Iraq War and electronic machines. Both Cobb and Bednarik fought the Ohio election, while Kerry/Edwards were busy conceding in record time. These rightwingers don't even know what a real conservative is, or they would be against the Bush cronies.
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I believe that it might be possible to form a third party, perhaps called the "Progressive Party", which could incorporate the core constituents of right and left, groups that might turn out to have more in common than they realize. This would in turn allow the corporatist parts of the Pubs and Dems to unite into one party, to consummate their unholy marriage.

#22 RLM - Sometimes you crack me up --- These folks are sincere and well-intentioned, but their favorite literature is Winnie the Pooh and Nancy Drew mysteries.

Almost spilled my coffee over that one.

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...Robert Lockwood Mills said on 11/3/2005 @ 6:02am PT...

For Skip (#11): Here's one historian's take on the 35% who still support Bush.

10% of the population supports the president, no matter who he is or what he does, because "he deserves our support." These folks are sincere and well-intentioned, but their favorite literature is Winnie the Pooh and Nancy Drew mysteries.

15% of the population are religious fanatics in the Bible belt who believe Bush has been sent by (the one true) God to save America from evil. These folks and their pastors are also sincere (many will disagree with me about that), and their favorite literature is Ben-Hur (and all other fiction stories made into historical epics starring Charlton Heston).

10% of the population simply hates liberals. They aren't sincere. Their unspoken credo is, "The enemy of my enemies must be my friend." Bush is our enemy, we're their enemy, so Bush becomes their friend. The favorite literature of these folks is the Drudge Report.

There you have it. 10+15+10=35.
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I'm reminded of the Catholic Church, where the Pope who was once hailed as the most loved and most important Pope of all time, John 23rd, is now forgotten or even reviled and JP2, who has effectively split the Catholic Church, to the point where the current Pope has stated that he's, like, aok with a much smaller Church in the future (while at the same time pretending to be ecumenical!!!) is on the verge of being canonized posthaste. For creating a smaller, less tolerant Church that is rocked by scandal.

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I'm scared......

One reason the president is unpopular (there are many) is who he hires.

The FEMA director is a crass, murdering, sniveling, dip-shit (link here) about whom bu$hit could only say "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job" on the public MSM.

Brownie is a short form of "brown-noser". These types have no skills, no concern for anyone other than themselves, and are ditto heads.

The present admin in a nutshell ...

Above thread..BigDan's suggestion to form a third party. I like the sounds of that. Gore asked the senate not to investigate Fla. elections. Kerry was soooo bought off. That's the rest of the story as Paul Harvey says. Have often thought that our only hope was to team up with disgruntled republicans, libertarians. If Howard Dean did say Dems. were no longer a pro choice party, that will be our clue. Hillary is in the bag for '08 despite the fact nobody likes her. Seems to me the moderate Dems. are the exact same as Republican. Pick only the ruthless pro corporation candidates will be able to run. The Dems. killed off Dean's candidacy as much as repubs. He had a good chance to win because he was anti war. Not that he was perfect..but fiscal resposibility and anti war were two good starters.

The DLC stole the election from Howard Dean. They are traitors to everybody.

Doug E.

THIS is truly inspiring. Bush can't even win the hearts and minds of high school kids. Look at what these kids did in CA on Wednesday 11/02.

http://liberalrapture.com/

I think maybe there's hope for this country after all.

I read that Gephardt and Kerry went together and funded the ad campaign that trashed Dean's position in Iowa.

But, the national media doesn't tell the rest of the country what's happening in each state's primary race. Remember, they didn't really inform the world about Bush trashing McCain with a whispering campaign.

So, we've gotta inform ourselves and then pass the word along.

For Dredd: I assume you've heard about the tapes that have Brownie saying sarcastic things from New Orleans like, "May I quit now?" This guy is worse than anyone thought. unless I'm missing the point.

But he buys his shirts from Nordstrum's, and thinks we should be proud of him for that. He's a "fashion god." Gee, Queer Eye for the FEMA Guy, or something ...